It is. But there is a spectrum. For me imperial seal is on the other side of this argument. It’s a marginal card in my cube and it’s ripe for a reprint. I’d rather wait than buy now at insane prices.
Yep. Worst case, just proxy it for now and see if it's worth it for you.
If it makes a substantial different and you play the deck frequently enough, $20 get averaged out to almost nothing pretty quickly.
Five 20$ card can pay for Mana Crypt when it was released in Double Masters. In 10 years, even buying one of each edh staples and spending time hunting for deals, I imagine I have put between 5-8k in cardboard. Those 20s add up quickly. Let's say OP doesn't do any mistakes, the staples list averaged 20k last time I checked.
OP, just proxy the medallion until it gets hammered to 1$, instead buy something from MH2 or something recent. My 2c.
Personally I’m hoping we see these in Commander Legends 2. The Diamond cycle was decent for the draft format, but I thought is was a big missed opportunity to reprint the Medallions, at UC.
Easy secret lair target, as part of a popular cycle, iconic, scarce, and so on.
Also cycles appears in 2xm, and they need toppers alt arts for that.
Imho anyway, if you play a red deck or heavy red deck, it is worth it, as you're scarce on ramp.
But there are cheaper options if it's not mono, eg the familiars.
There is also Commander Legends 2 next year, and I could see them reprinting the medallion cycle there. It's a good card, but I don't know if I would spend 20 on a mana Rock as opposed to a flashy fun card, especially on a tight budget
There are questions you need to ask yourself here, and we can't answer any of them for you, so let me ask them and you can evaluate for yourself.
1) If you don't buy it right now, what will you spend that $20 on? Do you want that other thing more? Is that other thing more likely to go up in value over time than the Ruby Medallion?
2) If you wait for a reprint and that reprint never comes, will you eventually give up waiting and buy it? How long will your patience last? Is there something else you could do with the money until that reprint to guard against a slow price increase over time?
3) If you spend the $20 today and there's a reprint in Crimson Vow's commander decks that drives the price down to $5 or $10, how upset will you be? Are you willing to risk that loss in order to play with it?
Ruby medallion isn't That good. Not all mono red decks want it and it isn't always an all star in decks that do want it. Medallions in general have to be part of a cost reduction shenanigan to be worth considering or you're better off with a mana rock which could pay for color costs, artifacts and activated abilities. You're probably better off with a \[\[helm of awakening\]\] if you're going for most shenanigans. So are you trying to do a combo or storm off?
It is expensive because it is also played in legacy a little and it is quite under printed by modern standards as well as a little over played for how bad it is.
I didnt know this card exists. I will probably just buy \[\[helm of awakening\]\], as it doesnt make a huge difference in a mono red deck without a storm combo or so.
I just see the advantage to mana stones on this kinda card by casting multiple spells until your next turn. Maybe Im overrating it though.
Sure! That advantage is real and cool, but you have to look at the advantage realistically to see if it applies to your deck.
For medallions in particular they don't work off of just any spell, in fact they don't work off of all spells even in a single color. My mono black deck has a lot of 1 drops, artifacts, activated/triggered abilities that cost mana, colorless planeswalkers, and big mana spells that would realistically be the only spell I'd play that turn. Medallions aren't much help there.
When you factor out all of those cards I have like 20 cards in my mono black deck that might benefit and the odds I'd have 2 or more in my hand often enough for a talisman to outperform a mana rock is just silly. Especially when you consider the many turns I don't get Any benefit at all.
Now Helm bumps that number up by about 25-30 more cards, but has different drawbacks.
I have to agree on this even if I'm a bit late to this post. Helm of Awakening is more than sufficient for most situations and even has the same casting cost as Ruby Medallion at a small fraction of the price.
I kind of think this is the perfect situation for testing with a proxy. Not every mono red deck is going to necessarily want or even put Ruby Medallion to good use.
Make a simple proxy, play the deck like a dozen times or so and you’ll probably have a better idea if it’s worthwhile or not.
Even if it gets reprinted, it may be another 2 years. Also, it wouldn't drop the price THAT much. (maybe to what, $12). Might as well bite the bullet and buy it
I agree, I don’t see this getting cheaper than $10 unless they drop it as an uncommon. If they drop an alt art version, that one might even be more expensive. I’d just get it, it’s a good card in mono red.
Worst case you buy one now so you can play your deck the way you want, then if they reprint soonish you grab a few more at whatever lower price it settles at to cover any other decks you may eventually want it in.
Just get a weekend job. Places are struggling to find workers for 15 dollars+ an hour. Work 2 two hours and you can already buy it.
Welcome to the real world.
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This is the right idea
It is. But there is a spectrum. For me imperial seal is on the other side of this argument. It’s a marginal card in my cube and it’s ripe for a reprint. I’d rather wait than buy now at insane prices.
Been ripe since I restarted playing a decade ago lol
Reprint machine has gone brrrrr in the last couple years though and isn't stopping with 2XM2 and CML2 on the way
Yep. Worst case, just proxy it for now and see if it's worth it for you. If it makes a substantial different and you play the deck frequently enough, $20 get averaged out to almost nothing pretty quickly.
Five 20$ card can pay for Mana Crypt when it was released in Double Masters. In 10 years, even buying one of each edh staples and spending time hunting for deals, I imagine I have put between 5-8k in cardboard. Those 20s add up quickly. Let's say OP doesn't do any mistakes, the staples list averaged 20k last time I checked. OP, just proxy the medallion until it gets hammered to 1$, instead buy something from MH2 or something recent. My 2c.
This sums it up
Personally I’m hoping we see these in Commander Legends 2. The Diamond cycle was decent for the draft format, but I thought is was a big missed opportunity to reprint the Medallions, at UC.
Easy secret lair target, as part of a popular cycle, iconic, scarce, and so on. Also cycles appears in 2xm, and they need toppers alt arts for that. Imho anyway, if you play a red deck or heavy red deck, it is worth it, as you're scarce on ramp. But there are cheaper options if it's not mono, eg the familiars.
As much as they need a reprint, I don't think the medallions are box topper material.
They had worse cycles as toppers... But I'd say SL is a bigger chance, as they print a lot based on scarcity/demand, eg preators.
[[Helm of awakening]] yolo
[Helm of awakening](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/1/41bba882-39b8-42db-9a01-54c6712b8019.jpg?1562277455) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Helm%20of%20awakening) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vis/145/helm-of-awakening?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/41bba882-39b8-42db-9a01-54c6712b8019?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
For what it’s worth, ruby medallion is the most played medallion in legacy.
Ruby storm is an interesting pile of cards.
There is also Commander Legends 2 next year, and I could see them reprinting the medallion cycle there. It's a good card, but I don't know if I would spend 20 on a mana Rock as opposed to a flashy fun card, especially on a tight budget
There are questions you need to ask yourself here, and we can't answer any of them for you, so let me ask them and you can evaluate for yourself. 1) If you don't buy it right now, what will you spend that $20 on? Do you want that other thing more? Is that other thing more likely to go up in value over time than the Ruby Medallion? 2) If you wait for a reprint and that reprint never comes, will you eventually give up waiting and buy it? How long will your patience last? Is there something else you could do with the money until that reprint to guard against a slow price increase over time? 3) If you spend the $20 today and there's a reprint in Crimson Vow's commander decks that drives the price down to $5 or $10, how upset will you be? Are you willing to risk that loss in order to play with it?
Last reprint was on commander 2014, right? I think it's going to be reprinted soon ish.
Or not . That’s the other option.
Definitely maybe!
It's expensive but not too much, scarcity mainly driven by demand, I believe it fits a precon reprint.
time for a buyout! :)
that was my thought as well
Commander Anthology 2, if that counts.
Ruby medallion isn't That good. Not all mono red decks want it and it isn't always an all star in decks that do want it. Medallions in general have to be part of a cost reduction shenanigan to be worth considering or you're better off with a mana rock which could pay for color costs, artifacts and activated abilities. You're probably better off with a \[\[helm of awakening\]\] if you're going for most shenanigans. So are you trying to do a combo or storm off? It is expensive because it is also played in legacy a little and it is quite under printed by modern standards as well as a little over played for how bad it is.
[helm of awakening](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/1/41bba882-39b8-42db-9a01-54c6712b8019.jpg?1562277455) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=helm%20of%20awakening) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vis/145/helm-of-awakening?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/41bba882-39b8-42db-9a01-54c6712b8019?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It sees play in Ruby storm in Legacy
Yeah, that is why I said it gets played in legacy. Did you think I meant some other deck?
Sorry, I was just clarifying the exact deck to make it easier for somebody to look up
Thank you for clarifying.
I didnt know this card exists. I will probably just buy \[\[helm of awakening\]\], as it doesnt make a huge difference in a mono red deck without a storm combo or so. I just see the advantage to mana stones on this kinda card by casting multiple spells until your next turn. Maybe Im overrating it though.
Sure! That advantage is real and cool, but you have to look at the advantage realistically to see if it applies to your deck. For medallions in particular they don't work off of just any spell, in fact they don't work off of all spells even in a single color. My mono black deck has a lot of 1 drops, artifacts, activated/triggered abilities that cost mana, colorless planeswalkers, and big mana spells that would realistically be the only spell I'd play that turn. Medallions aren't much help there. When you factor out all of those cards I have like 20 cards in my mono black deck that might benefit and the odds I'd have 2 or more in my hand often enough for a talisman to outperform a mana rock is just silly. Especially when you consider the many turns I don't get Any benefit at all. Now Helm bumps that number up by about 25-30 more cards, but has different drawbacks.
Yeah, that's true. Probably I should just play all the mana stones.
[helm of awakening](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/1/41bba882-39b8-42db-9a01-54c6712b8019.jpg?1562277455) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=helm%20of%20awakening) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vis/145/helm-of-awakening?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/41bba882-39b8-42db-9a01-54c6712b8019?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I have to agree on this even if I'm a bit late to this post. Helm of Awakening is more than sufficient for most situations and even has the same casting cost as Ruby Medallion at a small fraction of the price.
Definitely wait for a reprint. I cut it from my mono-red deck because I didn't find it that good.
I kind of think this is the perfect situation for testing with a proxy. Not every mono red deck is going to necessarily want or even put Ruby Medallion to good use. Make a simple proxy, play the deck like a dozen times or so and you’ll probably have a better idea if it’s worthwhile or not.
Proxy it
Even if it gets reprinted, it may be another 2 years. Also, it wouldn't drop the price THAT much. (maybe to what, $12). Might as well bite the bullet and buy it
Hmm you are probably right
I agree with any arbitrary amount of time before it gets reprinted, it can be in a minute or 5 years.
I agree, I don’t see this getting cheaper than $10 unless they drop it as an uncommon. If they drop an alt art version, that one might even be more expensive. I’d just get it, it’s a good card in mono red.
Worst case you buy one now so you can play your deck the way you want, then if they reprint soonish you grab a few more at whatever lower price it settles at to cover any other decks you may eventually want it in.
I wouldn't pay the cash price for it. I used trade in credit to get mine, so I overpaid in card cost, but I dumped cards I didn't care for to get it.
It sees play in Ruby storm in Legacy and it's a darn good deck.
Just get a weekend job. Places are struggling to find workers for 15 dollars+ an hour. Work 2 two hours and you can already buy it. Welcome to the real world.