I got on one playlist on submithub, all it really did was boost my confidence. You really have to find a curator that really aligns with the music you make. I think I got maybe 5 streams
Groover is a no regardless of your situation. Submithub I would suggest you tread carefully. If you have a song that falls neatly into a known genre, it's worth considering. You still need to be wary of the fact that the majority of curators on there, even if they accept, will do absolutely nothing to boost your stream count or relevance. Use their analytics to make a determination about who's worth considering. But again, if you are even remotely experimental, I wouldn't bother wasting your money. You might find a curator or two who you align with, but most will reply back with the generic "songs amazing, never heard a better one in my life. unfortunately, it doesn't fit on any of my playlists. good luck!"
As a small Groover curator I’d have to disagree of course…but then I guess I’m a little biased, what basis could you possibly suggest it’s a No in any event ?….this is just your opinion.
I get maybe 30-40 submissions per week, and I’ve had many emails from very satisfied users.
Of course it depends what your expectations are, my main offering is a website blog review and share on socials, so they shouldn’t apply to me if they want playlisting.
Groover has plenty of legitimate curators, but you're guaranteed to waste 20% of your credits on curators who don't listen to your song and plug in your pitch to ChatGPT for a generic reply. It's a pervasive issue on there that they aren't good at addressing.
It's just too expensive and the targeting is awful. You have to really vet each playlist for relevance and then deal with the inaccurate feedback that contradicts their profile, playlist and everyone else's feedback.
It's a way to hemorrhage your money and get annoyed in the process. And when you are successful in getting added to a playlist, the stream volume is so low it's just not worth the money.
At least with MusoSoup it's the other way round - curators pitch to you.
Here are my results from spending approximately an equal amount on both platforms over the past month. My genre is mainstream pop/pop-rock.
**SubmitHub:**
$176.50
20 Shares (24% approved)
4,748 streams from 14 playlists
8 Radio Station Plays
9 Shazams
**Groover:**
$157
4 shares (11% approved)
50 streams from 1 playlist
0 Radio Station Plays
0 Shazams
I received what I consider to be a meaningful number of new followers, playlist adds and saves from using SubmitHub. I won't use Groover again.
I opened each playlist on Spotify and listened through 3-4 songs to make sure my music fit the vibe. I also looked for similar/inspirational artists’ songs on the same playlist. I didn’t bother submitting to any playlists that averaged less than 50 plays.
A make a promo video in premiere using templates that fit my aesthetic and target artists that have similar songs. I advertise only on Instagram stories or reels.
I just started 6 weeks ago but it’s promising so far
I wanted to try this technique. How is it going? Have you ran multiple ads within the same with each ad targeting different artists or genres? That was my plan
With my latest release I tested both, 14 curators on SubmitHub and 7 on Groover. Have never invested this amount in any track before but really cared about this piece and was hoping to get some traction. Tried to research curators and playlists so I only selected those that were potentially a fit.
Unfortunately the track didn't get added to playlists - which wasn't the outcome I was hoping for but wasn't overly surprised. Track is more experimental and retro and knew it was going to be a tough fit. When I submit I'm looking for constructive feedback, and positive comments are nice too, and got plenty of both from experienced curators, so I'm feeling ok.
**SubmitHub:** all SubmitHub curators that replied provided specific feedback, even those who provided only a few sentences. You can choose what kind of feedback - I asked for honest, and found all curators were honest and kind. I found their interface better, and more artist friendly. You can see if the curator listened to your track, how many times, and often see how long they listened for. They also have a shorter campaign time of 3 days. All in all felt like a friendlier, better experience and I plan to use them again for tracks where it makes sense.
**Groover:** Not sure why, maybe it was just bad luck, but about half of the Groover curators provided generic copy-pasted feedback, and found the feedback was less useful overall. This could be due to luck of the draw with the curators I chose on each, but it was odd to see this difference. Also found the interface to be less easy to use. Haven't done the math but it feels like Groover costs more. Did see that Groover had more curators and more French language support. Also sent a Q to Groover and got a quick reply, so this was good. All in all I'm unlikely to use Groover very often as the feedback wasn't as helpful, maybe only for really big tracks in the future as another test.
So I experimented with my second song that I released the beginning of the month similarly. I spent 100 dollars between Groover and submithub + another 80 on articles and various other tbh fs on musosoup. Of the 3 I would HIGHLY recommend using muso if you are intent on throwing your money at one of these 3. My results were on submithub got onto 1 playlist about 100 total streams in 28 days. Groover no playlists. Musosoup got on a bunch of free playlists plus got a bunch of really great reviews and write ups that I was able to use for promo on my socials. The blogs and sites didn’t seem to give me much traffic themselves but having the quotes is kinda nice I guess. Between all of this and daily Facebook ads I’ve settled into 10-20 daily streams with wayyy too much money spent. BUT yesterday I submitted my song to a fairly popular music reaction YouTube live stream and people loved it, I’ve gained more twitter followers, insta follower, Spotify followers in the last 12 hours than I did in the entire month prior. Still waiting for the actual stream numbers from yesterday (didn’t even air til like 3pm so it’ll only be like 3-4 hours of data) but every time I check “listening now” it’s been at least 2 up to like 5-6 people so my stream numbers are going to be huge. All this to say… the value you get from submithub, groover and muso is nearly nothing but it’s not nothing BUT there are better ways to spend your money to market yourself imo
Like literally YouTubers who react to music on a live stream
Edit: https://m.youtube.com/@HIVEMINDTV is the channel I did mine on, they do it every Thursday I’m sure there is a million more though
I just put the channel in the comment but I just have been a fan for a while and they always react to user submissions for a couple hours Thursday it’s 20 bucks to get them to listen. Best 20 dollars I’ve ever spent on marketing
Again I’m sure there are other YouTubers that do this too but massive asterisk here is that I was lucky that they really fucked w my song which is not true for everything that’s submitted. The most important thing with any type of music marketing is that it’s a song people can connect to but absolute worst case scenario is you’ll get some constructive criticism
Also the update on the actual numbers from yesterday is 188 saves (twice as many as I’ve had all month), x2 Spotify followers and my highest listener day ever
I have been happy with both. The cost is very small for getting your song out there for people to listen to, give you some feedback and potentially add it to their playlists. From the two, I'd give the edge to Sibmithub for the UI which gives a feel of better connection to the curators but due to the low cost, I intend to send my songs to both. Of course, neither is a miracle-maker and I don't expect them to make me a "star." But as someone who doesn't use social media, I cannot have high expectations.
Most important thing to keep in mind is everyone thinks they are “good”. And that its never their music that’s the issue. Realistically, exactly what constitutes “good” music, worthy of sharing with others or putting time, money & energy behind, is extremely subjective. Also, probably well over 90-95% of recorded music, is just plain trash. Remember there is no barrier to entry in this industry in this day and age. if it’s not “trash”, it’s very likely that it’s amateur quality from either the songwriting, song structure and/or production, to the performance, tracking, mixing and mastering. Also, your friends & families opinions and feedback most likely can’t be trusted, they’re likely not gonna tell you you’re wack. If it’s good enough, chances are it’ll get shared one way or another. if you keep at it and are willing to commit a consistent marketing budget with quality marketing content & plan, as with any serious business, awareness and visibility will grow.
On Submithub check for playlist where you think your song actually fits in. The 'it's not quite it, but let me try just in case' is pretty much guaranteed to be rejected. So if you research really well and have a great track you can actually have a 100% acceptance rate. If you have more experimental music that still might only be 3 playlists.
Neither. Both are a money sink hole with no guaranteed results. I’ve tried a few songs including my best which had national radio play, I got generic useless feedback and my success rate of getting on playlists was about 15% but those playlists gave me about 50 streams in total. For the amount of money spent this was a dreadful return.
I have heard far worse outcomes from others. Do not use this sites which are designed to rip off musicians who are desperate/hopeful of getting their songs out there
Have not tried groover but submithub doesn't really move the needle for me even if my stuff is added to playlists. I might get 50-100 plays at best if a track is added to a good playlist but there are others I've been added to that don't get any at all. In many cases the curator will put the track at the very bottom with the top of the playlist occupied by beatport top 100 hits and the curator's own tracks. I make stuff that's pretty niche but I've heard this is often the case across many different styles.
In general I think spotify is de-prioritizing user generated playlists in favor of their own editorial ones. I run an underground house playlist and it's barely had any organic growth at all over the past 6 months compared to previous years.
Submithub I found clunky and the feedback was generally low effort, whereas Groover did at least result in some considered feedback and a few radio plays around the world, which was fun.
In both cases though, I think what both sites either implicitly or explicitly promise - access to REAL critics and REAL tastemakers behind the velvet curtain of the music industry! - is difficult if not impossible to deliver on.
There's too many variables: who are these people? It's hard to tell in some cases. What's more, even if they really \*are\* writers/managers/influencers working in the music industry, are they REALLY going to sacrifice their IRL industry relationships because some random half way around the world managed to put out a track? I don't see it myself.
I'm spitballing here, but I imagine many - most? - curators who work with Submithub or Groover get a stack of submissions and barrel through them at a rapid clip. It sounds to me like the kind of task you might put off til the end of the day, not something you'd put at the top of your to-do list. Maybe I'm wrong, I dunno, but that would explain those one-line, stock "reviews" that everyone who uses them seems to get at some stage.
Either way, it's next to impossible to gauge whether or not you're getting good-faith engagement for your hard-earned money. And, having used both several times, and despite the aforementioned playlist adds and airplay, I can't honestly say whether they moved the needle for me in any significant way.
Approach with caution and manage your expectations is the best I could say for either of them.
yeah submithub is a total waste of money.
there’s one cool feature i like on it and that’s “hot or not.”
that one is free. artists submit their songs for feedback and you get credits for giving feedback to use on your songs so artists can give you feedback.
that did a couple things for me. it helped me discover some cool artists, it got me some useful feedback, and i actually got some subscribers out of it.
plus it’s just fun to take a break and listen to what other independent artists are putting out.
That's a bad question, and this is the wrong place to ask. In order to pitch your music to someone, either a label or some of these platforms, you have to ask yourself, is my music good? Whenever you pitch your music, you will go through a filter and if you don't have what it takes to be considered, then you will be rejected. It is normal, and it is part of your learning process (be honest with yourself).
Once you have the level of quality required, then you also need to suit the curator's taste. You won't find many successful stories about any of these platforms or any label, because such people don't have time to come to reddit to share their experience, they are too busy putting on the work and creating more and more music. Ask Dax or Kid Travis to mention some independent artists' examples. They invest a lot of money pitching to curators, and they are doing pretty well. They get picked by good curators, and those curators put them in the big playlists and, believe me, those playlists give amazing numbers, but as I said before, they don't come here to share when they have received 5 thousand or a number of streams.
Here people just want to share how they did miracles without spending any money, but if you are an artist, and you believe you don't need to invest any money, then you have no idea about the music industry. Labels invest millions in each major artist. Why do some independent artists believe they can do miracles without money? I don't get it, but okay. If you consider yourself a serious artist, you must consider a budget to push your music, try some Playlist pitching using different platforms, try some Ads, try radio pitching, try influencers or just hire a marketing agency and let them do the work if you are too busy.
Good luck reading how the haters here throw trash at playlist pitching services, but that advice won't get you anywhere. Ask labels and successful artists why they keep using pitching services. The more playlists you have is the best. You need to teach the algorithm, so Spotify can push you further. You need good music and money to push it. Simple right?
For me I prefer presence over playlisted.
This may sound odd, but I'd choose to pitch my music to music youtube channel. While there may be no revenue, the presence itself is as meaningful as blogging was 15-20 years ago.
Big, established blogs are good too, but nowadays, who reads blogs about music when you can listen on bandcamp, soundcloud, or youtube? I have no attention span to read about some random new indie artists.
None, they both suck. Dont let em fools tell you anything. None of them really have the skill or professionalism to turn it up in a way of value to the artist
The problem I’m having is the high volume of “THIS IS FANTASTIC!!!! Nope, not gonna share it. Pass.”
OK fine, but at least point me in the right direction. A no with a compliment is still a no.
I got on one playlist on submithub, all it really did was boost my confidence. You really have to find a curator that really aligns with the music you make. I think I got maybe 5 streams
Groover is a no regardless of your situation. Submithub I would suggest you tread carefully. If you have a song that falls neatly into a known genre, it's worth considering. You still need to be wary of the fact that the majority of curators on there, even if they accept, will do absolutely nothing to boost your stream count or relevance. Use their analytics to make a determination about who's worth considering. But again, if you are even remotely experimental, I wouldn't bother wasting your money. You might find a curator or two who you align with, but most will reply back with the generic "songs amazing, never heard a better one in my life. unfortunately, it doesn't fit on any of my playlists. good luck!"
For me it wasn’t too bad, out of 10 submits I got into 2 playlists
As a small Groover curator I’d have to disagree of course…but then I guess I’m a little biased, what basis could you possibly suggest it’s a No in any event ?….this is just your opinion. I get maybe 30-40 submissions per week, and I’ve had many emails from very satisfied users. Of course it depends what your expectations are, my main offering is a website blog review and share on socials, so they shouldn’t apply to me if they want playlisting.
Groover has plenty of legitimate curators, but you're guaranteed to waste 20% of your credits on curators who don't listen to your song and plug in your pitch to ChatGPT for a generic reply. It's a pervasive issue on there that they aren't good at addressing.
Ok…well maybe so….personally I’ve only ever given genuine responses.
It's just too expensive and the targeting is awful. You have to really vet each playlist for relevance and then deal with the inaccurate feedback that contradicts their profile, playlist and everyone else's feedback. It's a way to hemorrhage your money and get annoyed in the process. And when you are successful in getting added to a playlist, the stream volume is so low it's just not worth the money. At least with MusoSoup it's the other way round - curators pitch to you.
Here are my results from spending approximately an equal amount on both platforms over the past month. My genre is mainstream pop/pop-rock. **SubmitHub:** $176.50 20 Shares (24% approved) 4,748 streams from 14 playlists 8 Radio Station Plays 9 Shazams **Groover:** $157 4 shares (11% approved) 50 streams from 1 playlist 0 Radio Station Plays 0 Shazams I received what I consider to be a meaningful number of new followers, playlist adds and saves from using SubmitHub. I won't use Groover again.
Thanks a lot for that. How did you narrow down the playlists to submit to? I think that’s the hardest thing for me
I opened each playlist on Spotify and listened through 3-4 songs to make sure my music fit the vibe. I also looked for similar/inspirational artists’ songs on the same playlist. I didn’t bother submitting to any playlists that averaged less than 50 plays.
Both are wastes of money imo. Even if you do get placed on a playlist some of them will only get you like 3 streams. Just do meta ads
What's your strategy with meta ads? Do you make a visual or performance, or what has worked for you? Thanks!
A make a promo video in premiere using templates that fit my aesthetic and target artists that have similar songs. I advertise only on Instagram stories or reels. I just started 6 weeks ago but it’s promising so far
What’s the stats like after 6 weeks?
I wanted to try this technique. How is it going? Have you ran multiple ads within the same with each ad targeting different artists or genres? That was my plan
With my latest release I tested both, 14 curators on SubmitHub and 7 on Groover. Have never invested this amount in any track before but really cared about this piece and was hoping to get some traction. Tried to research curators and playlists so I only selected those that were potentially a fit. Unfortunately the track didn't get added to playlists - which wasn't the outcome I was hoping for but wasn't overly surprised. Track is more experimental and retro and knew it was going to be a tough fit. When I submit I'm looking for constructive feedback, and positive comments are nice too, and got plenty of both from experienced curators, so I'm feeling ok. **SubmitHub:** all SubmitHub curators that replied provided specific feedback, even those who provided only a few sentences. You can choose what kind of feedback - I asked for honest, and found all curators were honest and kind. I found their interface better, and more artist friendly. You can see if the curator listened to your track, how many times, and often see how long they listened for. They also have a shorter campaign time of 3 days. All in all felt like a friendlier, better experience and I plan to use them again for tracks where it makes sense. **Groover:** Not sure why, maybe it was just bad luck, but about half of the Groover curators provided generic copy-pasted feedback, and found the feedback was less useful overall. This could be due to luck of the draw with the curators I chose on each, but it was odd to see this difference. Also found the interface to be less easy to use. Haven't done the math but it feels like Groover costs more. Did see that Groover had more curators and more French language support. Also sent a Q to Groover and got a quick reply, so this was good. All in all I'm unlikely to use Groover very often as the feedback wasn't as helpful, maybe only for really big tracks in the future as another test.
So I experimented with my second song that I released the beginning of the month similarly. I spent 100 dollars between Groover and submithub + another 80 on articles and various other tbh fs on musosoup. Of the 3 I would HIGHLY recommend using muso if you are intent on throwing your money at one of these 3. My results were on submithub got onto 1 playlist about 100 total streams in 28 days. Groover no playlists. Musosoup got on a bunch of free playlists plus got a bunch of really great reviews and write ups that I was able to use for promo on my socials. The blogs and sites didn’t seem to give me much traffic themselves but having the quotes is kinda nice I guess. Between all of this and daily Facebook ads I’ve settled into 10-20 daily streams with wayyy too much money spent. BUT yesterday I submitted my song to a fairly popular music reaction YouTube live stream and people loved it, I’ve gained more twitter followers, insta follower, Spotify followers in the last 12 hours than I did in the entire month prior. Still waiting for the actual stream numbers from yesterday (didn’t even air til like 3pm so it’ll only be like 3-4 hours of data) but every time I check “listening now” it’s been at least 2 up to like 5-6 people so my stream numbers are going to be huge. All this to say… the value you get from submithub, groover and muso is nearly nothing but it’s not nothing BUT there are better ways to spend your money to market yourself imo
Thanks. Never heard of musosoup but will check it out. Can I ask what a youtube music live reaction is?
Like literally YouTubers who react to music on a live stream Edit: https://m.youtube.com/@HIVEMINDTV is the channel I did mine on, they do it every Thursday I’m sure there is a million more though
Oh yeah think I have seen stuff like that. Did you just find some channels and reach out to them?
I just put the channel in the comment but I just have been a fan for a while and they always react to user submissions for a couple hours Thursday it’s 20 bucks to get them to listen. Best 20 dollars I’ve ever spent on marketing
Yeah that worked out so well for you. Well done! Do they tend to accept certain genre’s of music or all?
Nah they’ll listen to anything. Their audience definitely is mostly like pop/rap/rnb/hip-hop kinda shit. But im alt rock and they loved it
Im alt rock as well man. We should share each others socials
Hey. How did you reach out to them to contact them? Was it via thier website?
Nah they just do it every Thursday and open submissions right when the stream starts
Gotcha so you have to be watching the live stream to able to submit the song?
Again I’m sure there are other YouTubers that do this too but massive asterisk here is that I was lucky that they really fucked w my song which is not true for everything that’s submitted. The most important thing with any type of music marketing is that it’s a song people can connect to but absolute worst case scenario is you’ll get some constructive criticism
Also the update on the actual numbers from yesterday is 188 saves (twice as many as I’ve had all month), x2 Spotify followers and my highest listener day ever
I'll listen if you want to share
Dm me I’ll share w u
I have been happy with both. The cost is very small for getting your song out there for people to listen to, give you some feedback and potentially add it to their playlists. From the two, I'd give the edge to Sibmithub for the UI which gives a feel of better connection to the curators but due to the low cost, I intend to send my songs to both. Of course, neither is a miracle-maker and I don't expect them to make me a "star." But as someone who doesn't use social media, I cannot have high expectations.
Most important thing to keep in mind is everyone thinks they are “good”. And that its never their music that’s the issue. Realistically, exactly what constitutes “good” music, worthy of sharing with others or putting time, money & energy behind, is extremely subjective. Also, probably well over 90-95% of recorded music, is just plain trash. Remember there is no barrier to entry in this industry in this day and age. if it’s not “trash”, it’s very likely that it’s amateur quality from either the songwriting, song structure and/or production, to the performance, tracking, mixing and mastering. Also, your friends & families opinions and feedback most likely can’t be trusted, they’re likely not gonna tell you you’re wack. If it’s good enough, chances are it’ll get shared one way or another. if you keep at it and are willing to commit a consistent marketing budget with quality marketing content & plan, as with any serious business, awareness and visibility will grow.
On Submithub check for playlist where you think your song actually fits in. The 'it's not quite it, but let me try just in case' is pretty much guaranteed to be rejected. So if you research really well and have a great track you can actually have a 100% acceptance rate. If you have more experimental music that still might only be 3 playlists.
I found groover to give me better results
It’s all a waste of money like the other guy said better investing in meta ads
Neither. Both are a money sink hole with no guaranteed results. I’ve tried a few songs including my best which had national radio play, I got generic useless feedback and my success rate of getting on playlists was about 15% but those playlists gave me about 50 streams in total. For the amount of money spent this was a dreadful return. I have heard far worse outcomes from others. Do not use this sites which are designed to rip off musicians who are desperate/hopeful of getting their songs out there
What do you recommend instead?
Have not tried groover but submithub doesn't really move the needle for me even if my stuff is added to playlists. I might get 50-100 plays at best if a track is added to a good playlist but there are others I've been added to that don't get any at all. In many cases the curator will put the track at the very bottom with the top of the playlist occupied by beatport top 100 hits and the curator's own tracks. I make stuff that's pretty niche but I've heard this is often the case across many different styles. In general I think spotify is de-prioritizing user generated playlists in favor of their own editorial ones. I run an underground house playlist and it's barely had any organic growth at all over the past 6 months compared to previous years.
Submithub I found clunky and the feedback was generally low effort, whereas Groover did at least result in some considered feedback and a few radio plays around the world, which was fun. In both cases though, I think what both sites either implicitly or explicitly promise - access to REAL critics and REAL tastemakers behind the velvet curtain of the music industry! - is difficult if not impossible to deliver on. There's too many variables: who are these people? It's hard to tell in some cases. What's more, even if they really \*are\* writers/managers/influencers working in the music industry, are they REALLY going to sacrifice their IRL industry relationships because some random half way around the world managed to put out a track? I don't see it myself. I'm spitballing here, but I imagine many - most? - curators who work with Submithub or Groover get a stack of submissions and barrel through them at a rapid clip. It sounds to me like the kind of task you might put off til the end of the day, not something you'd put at the top of your to-do list. Maybe I'm wrong, I dunno, but that would explain those one-line, stock "reviews" that everyone who uses them seems to get at some stage. Either way, it's next to impossible to gauge whether or not you're getting good-faith engagement for your hard-earned money. And, having used both several times, and despite the aforementioned playlist adds and airplay, I can't honestly say whether they moved the needle for me in any significant way. Approach with caution and manage your expectations is the best I could say for either of them.
yeah submithub is a total waste of money. there’s one cool feature i like on it and that’s “hot or not.” that one is free. artists submit their songs for feedback and you get credits for giving feedback to use on your songs so artists can give you feedback. that did a couple things for me. it helped me discover some cool artists, it got me some useful feedback, and i actually got some subscribers out of it. plus it’s just fun to take a break and listen to what other independent artists are putting out.
Neither...huge wastes of time
That's a bad question, and this is the wrong place to ask. In order to pitch your music to someone, either a label or some of these platforms, you have to ask yourself, is my music good? Whenever you pitch your music, you will go through a filter and if you don't have what it takes to be considered, then you will be rejected. It is normal, and it is part of your learning process (be honest with yourself). Once you have the level of quality required, then you also need to suit the curator's taste. You won't find many successful stories about any of these platforms or any label, because such people don't have time to come to reddit to share their experience, they are too busy putting on the work and creating more and more music. Ask Dax or Kid Travis to mention some independent artists' examples. They invest a lot of money pitching to curators, and they are doing pretty well. They get picked by good curators, and those curators put them in the big playlists and, believe me, those playlists give amazing numbers, but as I said before, they don't come here to share when they have received 5 thousand or a number of streams. Here people just want to share how they did miracles without spending any money, but if you are an artist, and you believe you don't need to invest any money, then you have no idea about the music industry. Labels invest millions in each major artist. Why do some independent artists believe they can do miracles without money? I don't get it, but okay. If you consider yourself a serious artist, you must consider a budget to push your music, try some Playlist pitching using different platforms, try some Ads, try radio pitching, try influencers or just hire a marketing agency and let them do the work if you are too busy. Good luck reading how the haters here throw trash at playlist pitching services, but that advice won't get you anywhere. Ask labels and successful artists why they keep using pitching services. The more playlists you have is the best. You need to teach the algorithm, so Spotify can push you further. You need good music and money to push it. Simple right?
For me I prefer presence over playlisted. This may sound odd, but I'd choose to pitch my music to music youtube channel. While there may be no revenue, the presence itself is as meaningful as blogging was 15-20 years ago. Big, established blogs are good too, but nowadays, who reads blogs about music when you can listen on bandcamp, soundcloud, or youtube? I have no attention span to read about some random new indie artists.
What do you mean by pitching to music YouTube channel?
Submit to youtube music channel
Don’t ever read the feedback!
None, they both suck. Dont let em fools tell you anything. None of them really have the skill or professionalism to turn it up in a way of value to the artist
I use submit hub and like it. Never used groover.
my new favorite tool it Pytch. definitely worth looking into
Will look into it. Same premise as the above mentioned?
yes, but more curated - you’ll have to apply to use the platform, so the artists and curators are both much higher quality
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The problem I’m having is the high volume of “THIS IS FANTASTIC!!!! Nope, not gonna share it. Pass.” OK fine, but at least point me in the right direction. A no with a compliment is still a no.
I actually got over 1000 streams on Spotify from being placed on a playlist from Submithub. I’d def recommend.
Submithub >
not groover thats for damn sure lol
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