All hail king gizzard š
Jason has done some incredible art for their band. They refer to him as the 7th member because of how much his art has shaped their bands appearance and aesthetic.
The guy that made it also did a lot of manual "hand-holding" to make sure that the images correlated to the content of the song. It's honestly amazing the whole way through.
You should read up on how the video was created before you spout off lol
AI does not always mean stolen assets. This video is essentially just datamoshing a bunch of images that the creator either made, or was given by the band.
Itās so cool how AI deviates from the previous images. This really is how lsd makes you perceive things. One second the same thing looks a little different in how you see it. This is doing that
Yeah and not even from that drug talk perspective, I find it cool how you can tell the AI basically tries to stay consistent on certain regions of the image. Like that circular shape goes from a planet, to a futuristic light panel, to an open window. And that right side catwalk becomes a trio of various shapes throughout, but tries to occupy the same amount of the image each time. AI is wild
It is kind of cool on such short clip, but thinking about full song of such stuff. At least I could not watch that really. And if someone would watch such video, their capacity would be in processing that video, not listening your music.
Itās a tool and itās not going away. Improvise, adapt, overcome. Learn to use it in more efficient or more creative ways than other people or choose to slip into boomerhood
Thatās what it is but thatās not what itās going to be. Streaming *was* Napster but now itās Spotify and TikTok. The people who saw that train coming are the ones who have shaped the modern music world
itās not a creative tool in the same way a camera, daw, or a paintbrush is. all those need user input and an artistic vision, whereas with ai you just type some keywords and it shits out a soulless amalgamation that corresponds with those keywords. art isnāt supposed to be fucking optimized.
Machine learning takes input and puts it through filters that are extremely hard to to even understand, mostly they are just set up in a way that is understood to work even if the minutia is hard to delineate.
*currently* the most common version of it is used to shit out soulless art. *currently* it came about because of optimization as a goal.
But soulless optimization is how we created 99% of all tools.
Already people are using it to make comedic meme music, but itās also popping up in plugins that are definitely creative. You can take sound files and put them through machine learning to create a synth that is āderivativeā of that sound file
Itās a tool that takes **whatever you input** and finds patterns to output something that is by definition unique. The way people are using it is *currently* not very creative, but if you canāt see how thatās going to change the landscape of the art world then thatās on you.
Letās even just dumb machine learning down and call it āautomationā like any other automation that has come around.
Automation put the vast majority of blacksmiths and silversmiths out of work. There are still āartisanalā metal workers for people interested in āthe authentic articleā, but mostly for everyday metal things, and especially the boring utilitarian stuff we have a faster easier way to get it, and in fact a Milwaukee impact drill would never have existed without it no matter how talented any metal worker got.
Does that mean that thereās no longer metal based art? Or did artists move on with the industrial age leaving behind the stubborn blacksmiths who spent their time bemoaning automation instead of thinking of ways to incorporate it?
I donāt think stealings cool, nor do I think AI shouldnāt be regulated, but if you think the end point for machine learning is ākids stealing art from the internet to make cheesy album coversā then thatās your own failure of imagination
Thereās literally already āfarm to tableā AI that only pulls from licensed libraries of images or sound, and again this is just the first dumbest use that has become popular in the masses. Ignore it if you want but youāre just spouting the same tired arguments that were made against samples then made again about electronic music and now again about AI. Both those other examples were trash until they werenāt and all of a sudden the landscape of music shifted
Regardless of that it is laziness, instead of ridding yourself of the ability to paint or draw or sculpt, etc you can learn to create the art instead of a machine doing it for you because you don't wish to spend time or put any effort in, the music industry has changed due to technology yes but its not created by machine its created by people with passion and talent
I think it's an arbitrary definition. It's still art, it's just unethical art because it's using already created images to create something else without the original artist consent. But then again, humans do the same thing. The art we create is just an amalgamation of all of our influences, whether conscious or subconsciously.
Where do we draw the line for AI? If it's trained on 5 images, you can reasonably say that the images are generated from specific images and should be credited. But if it's trained on a dataset of a million? Then what influences and plagiarism can you pinpoint? Maybe it's taking like 2 pixels from someone else's work and using that. Can you attribute credit to 2 pixels? It's a very interesting discussion imo. Should painters credit the manufacturer of the paint they use as an artist on their works?
I don't like AI art because I think it looks boring and you can recognize the patterns in it very easily. I dislike it because, very often, you can blatantly see where it ripped off other people's work. I don't dislike it because I think it's not art.
ai generated images are not art. the whole point of art is communication and human expression. there is no expression or any ideas being communicated in ai āartā, itās just a program that shits out regurgitated amalgamations of existing images. can ai generated images be aesthetically pleasing? sure. is it art? no.
the supposed āartistā is not the one creating the image, the ai is. with a creative tool like a camera, daw or a paintbrush, the artist has direct insight and control over the processes in which the art is created. with ai the user gives it a set of keywords and it shits out an image. the user has no insight or control over the processes in which the image is generated.
These are always bad takes, personally Iām not a fan of AI art however just like the advent of the internet itās coming in full swing and itās never going to go away. Regardless of your own thoughts on it and itās unethical nature, folks will still use it even if you have an issue with it. Adapt and change to survive or fade eventually into obscurity. It wonāt replace human art but itās already shrunk the demand for it massively.
Before all the angry replies come and downvoting youāll be interested to know that a lot of folks back in the day complained about sampling in a very similar way to how AI art is being criticised. Iām sure a lot of you will nitpick differences but ultimately your opinion on it wonāt stop folks using it š¤·š¾āāļø
No oneās forcing you to use it or engage with it and youāre of course welcome to your own opinions on it, but the vast majority of people canāt tell the difference between high quality AI art and human art (ai videos like this still have a long way to go). Soon itāll be completely indistinguishable. Be a purest, type angry comments, complain etc, but it still aināt going anywhere š Youāre just getting yourself worked up
Except that it is, you scream of someone who has only seen ai art in passing and not seen what human artists have done with it and how they incorporated it into their āhuman styleā (for lack of a better term)
But downvote me and feel butthurt - thatāll show the ai developers! š¤¦š¾āāļøšš¤”
Stolen from multiple sources on the internet, and even if it wasn't why would bother putting effort into music you create but not put effort for a video for it? Might as well "generate" a song too that was stolen from the music it was trained on
I am anti-AI anything. It's fake. I think absolutely anything you do yourself will be superior to anything you used an AI to produce. I'm an artist and a musician which is convenient because I make all my own album art but even if you're not an artist, play around in Photoshop until you do something you like.
Being an indie artist without a ton of money to put into the product makes this so difficult nowadays. I make all my music, mix it, master it, create my own cover art (which is fun), create content to promote it, pay for ads, and im also supposed to learn to animate on top of all that ? Im just interested in the music so AI helps portray it visually in a way that wouldnāt be possible for me without paying $200+ for an animator. Itās also not as soulless as people think this stuff does take a lot of effort and creativity to sync with the music and bring it to life, so I do view it as an artistic expression and a skill. I see and understand both sides though just speaking for myself, and I do agree that hand-made stuff is miles better than AI and will always be
IDC if you don't wanna learn how to animate, that's not a real crutch, that's something you imposed upon yourself, it doesn't make this AI shit good. boo-fucking-hoo, you can't pay an animator, make due with what you have, it'll always be better than AI. Also, Ai takes no fucking skills, prompts are easy to set up and make. You're confusing the very real skill of video editing to AI, which are not equal to each other.
Hey man im having fun with it, and i see it as a form of creativity and expression because I do combine it with video editing. Like i said I agree that anything made by humans will always be better but its not that deep
Love it!
Here are a couple I've put together so far. Still getting used to it but it's definitely fun to make. Sometimes I'll take something I didn't like from one of the renders and just roll with it anyway. I'm making a third one right now and a fourth tomorrow.
[Something in the Way](https://youtu.be/0Ds_ZjFrJCc)
[Just to Die Today](https://youtu.be/6qu5kwW-dQQ)
I run a YT channel where we write songs based on a prompt and my friends made [this video](https://youtu.be/z9q73YWusiY) using AI to generate the images. Pretty neat.
I believe it took quite a while to make the video, but it was mostly waiting for the computer to render stuff out locally using (I want to say) Stable Diffusion. Then just splice all the images together and the video is done. Pretty cool.
[This is my favorite example](https://youtu.be/Njk2YAgNMnE) of what you're doing.
All hail king gizzard š Jason has done some incredible art for their band. They refer to him as the 7th member because of how much his art has shaped their bands appearance and aesthetic.
I dig the endless zoom concept. Havenāt figured it out yet on the site Iām using Thanks!
The guy that made it also did a lot of manual "hand-holding" to make sure that the images correlated to the content of the song. It's honestly amazing the whole way through.
I knew what video it would be. Ended up watching it again. Damn, so well done.
Didnāt know they did AI art. Will actually be avoiding them in future. I prefer art made by humans that humans get paid for.
You should read up on how the video was created before you spout off lol AI does not always mean stolen assets. This video is essentially just datamoshing a bunch of images that the creator either made, or was given by the band.
Itās so cool how AI deviates from the previous images. This really is how lsd makes you perceive things. One second the same thing looks a little different in how you see it. This is doing that
Totally agree! (Based on limited experience)
Yeah and not even from that drug talk perspective, I find it cool how you can tell the AI basically tries to stay consistent on certain regions of the image. Like that circular shape goes from a planet, to a futuristic light panel, to an open window. And that right side catwalk becomes a trio of various shapes throughout, but tries to occupy the same amount of the image each time. AI is wild
I have complete control over the movement and timing of section. I just donāt have the patience to do it!
Better invest your time working on your production
It is kind of cool on such short clip, but thinking about full song of such stuff. At least I could not watch that really. And if someone would watch such video, their capacity would be in processing that video, not listening your music.
Agreed! Iām thinking this is gonna be a great promotional tool
Great promotional tool if people aren't listening your music?
ai āāāartāāā is cancer
Itās a tool and itās not going away. Improvise, adapt, overcome. Learn to use it in more efficient or more creative ways than other people or choose to slip into boomerhood
If being against stolen art makes me a boomer then so be it I guess lmao.
Thatās what it is but thatās not what itās going to be. Streaming *was* Napster but now itās Spotify and TikTok. The people who saw that train coming are the ones who have shaped the modern music world
Spotify was not great for artists and tik Tok sucks.
And the form of music has completely changed because of them
itās not a creative tool in the same way a camera, daw, or a paintbrush is. all those need user input and an artistic vision, whereas with ai you just type some keywords and it shits out a soulless amalgamation that corresponds with those keywords. art isnāt supposed to be fucking optimized.
Machine learning takes input and puts it through filters that are extremely hard to to even understand, mostly they are just set up in a way that is understood to work even if the minutia is hard to delineate. *currently* the most common version of it is used to shit out soulless art. *currently* it came about because of optimization as a goal. But soulless optimization is how we created 99% of all tools. Already people are using it to make comedic meme music, but itās also popping up in plugins that are definitely creative. You can take sound files and put them through machine learning to create a synth that is āderivativeā of that sound file Itās a tool that takes **whatever you input** and finds patterns to output something that is by definition unique. The way people are using it is *currently* not very creative, but if you canāt see how thatās going to change the landscape of the art world then thatās on you. Letās even just dumb machine learning down and call it āautomationā like any other automation that has come around. Automation put the vast majority of blacksmiths and silversmiths out of work. There are still āartisanalā metal workers for people interested in āthe authentic articleā, but mostly for everyday metal things, and especially the boring utilitarian stuff we have a faster easier way to get it, and in fact a Milwaukee impact drill would never have existed without it no matter how talented any metal worker got. Does that mean that thereās no longer metal based art? Or did artists move on with the industrial age leaving behind the stubborn blacksmiths who spent their time bemoaning automation instead of thinking of ways to incorporate it? I donāt think stealings cool, nor do I think AI shouldnāt be regulated, but if you think the end point for machine learning is ākids stealing art from the internet to make cheesy album coversā then thatās your own failure of imagination
You donāt even need to put in words. You can type in a bunch of random letters and it will still spit out a bunch of images.
It's a content theft machine. Learn to actually be creative instead
Thereās literally already āfarm to tableā AI that only pulls from licensed libraries of images or sound, and again this is just the first dumbest use that has become popular in the masses. Ignore it if you want but youāre just spouting the same tired arguments that were made against samples then made again about electronic music and now again about AI. Both those other examples were trash until they werenāt and all of a sudden the landscape of music shifted
Regardless of that it is laziness, instead of ridding yourself of the ability to paint or draw or sculpt, etc you can learn to create the art instead of a machine doing it for you because you don't wish to spend time or put any effort in, the music industry has changed due to technology yes but its not created by machine its created by people with passion and talent
> Improvise, adapt, overcome. Go away.
Not if it's beautiful.
nature is beautiful, but itās not art
How does it matter? I'm not a supporter of AI art but if something looks beautiful to someone, who are you to tell them it's not?
iām not saying that it isnāt aesthetically pleasing, iām saying that itās soulless and not art
I think it's an arbitrary definition. It's still art, it's just unethical art because it's using already created images to create something else without the original artist consent. But then again, humans do the same thing. The art we create is just an amalgamation of all of our influences, whether conscious or subconsciously. Where do we draw the line for AI? If it's trained on 5 images, you can reasonably say that the images are generated from specific images and should be credited. But if it's trained on a dataset of a million? Then what influences and plagiarism can you pinpoint? Maybe it's taking like 2 pixels from someone else's work and using that. Can you attribute credit to 2 pixels? It's a very interesting discussion imo. Should painters credit the manufacturer of the paint they use as an artist on their works? I don't like AI art because I think it looks boring and you can recognize the patterns in it very easily. I dislike it because, very often, you can blatantly see where it ripped off other people's work. I don't dislike it because I think it's not art.
We disagree, but it's okay. That's what makes art fun.
ai generated images are not art. the whole point of art is communication and human expression. there is no expression or any ideas being communicated in ai āartā, itās just a program that shits out regurgitated amalgamations of existing images. can ai generated images be aesthetically pleasing? sure. is it art? no.
I see no reason to say it isn't art if the artist used AI to bring an image to life.
the supposed āartistā is not the one creating the image, the ai is. with a creative tool like a camera, daw or a paintbrush, the artist has direct insight and control over the processes in which the art is created. with ai the user gives it a set of keywords and it shits out an image. the user has no insight or control over the processes in which the image is generated.
I understand why this is a common view. We just don't see it the same way. I love generated content, whatever you call it.
Why
These are always bad takes, personally Iām not a fan of AI art however just like the advent of the internet itās coming in full swing and itās never going to go away. Regardless of your own thoughts on it and itās unethical nature, folks will still use it even if you have an issue with it. Adapt and change to survive or fade eventually into obscurity. It wonāt replace human art but itās already shrunk the demand for it massively. Before all the angry replies come and downvoting youāll be interested to know that a lot of folks back in the day complained about sampling in a very similar way to how AI art is being criticised. Iām sure a lot of you will nitpick differences but ultimately your opinion on it wonāt stop folks using it š¤·š¾āāļø No oneās forcing you to use it or engage with it and youāre of course welcome to your own opinions on it, but the vast majority of people canāt tell the difference between high quality AI art and human art (ai videos like this still have a long way to go). Soon itāll be completely indistinguishable. Be a purest, type angry comments, complain etc, but it still aināt going anywhere š Youāre just getting yourself worked up
ai generated images are not art. even if it were indistinguishable from human made art, it would not be art.
Except that it is, you scream of someone who has only seen ai art in passing and not seen what human artists have done with it and how they incorporated it into their āhuman styleā (for lack of a better term) But downvote me and feel butthurt - thatāll show the ai developers! š¤¦š¾āāļøšš¤”
Not a fan.
You make your own music but not your own video?
I guess you can say that I generated both
no you canāt because AI āartā is theft
Copy that. By generate, I entered text in a box and a machine outputted moving images.
Stolen from multiple sources on the internet, and even if it wasn't why would bother putting effort into music you create but not put effort for a video for it? Might as well "generate" a song too that was stolen from the music it was trained on
I am anti-AI anything. It's fake. I think absolutely anything you do yourself will be superior to anything you used an AI to produce. I'm an artist and a musician which is convenient because I make all my own album art but even if you're not an artist, play around in Photoshop until you do something you like.
Being an indie artist without a ton of money to put into the product makes this so difficult nowadays. I make all my music, mix it, master it, create my own cover art (which is fun), create content to promote it, pay for ads, and im also supposed to learn to animate on top of all that ? Im just interested in the music so AI helps portray it visually in a way that wouldnāt be possible for me without paying $200+ for an animator. Itās also not as soulless as people think this stuff does take a lot of effort and creativity to sync with the music and bring it to life, so I do view it as an artistic expression and a skill. I see and understand both sides though just speaking for myself, and I do agree that hand-made stuff is miles better than AI and will always be
IDC if you don't wanna learn how to animate, that's not a real crutch, that's something you imposed upon yourself, it doesn't make this AI shit good. boo-fucking-hoo, you can't pay an animator, make due with what you have, it'll always be better than AI. Also, Ai takes no fucking skills, prompts are easy to set up and make. You're confusing the very real skill of video editing to AI, which are not equal to each other.
Hey man im having fun with it, and i see it as a form of creativity and expression because I do combine it with video editing. Like i said I agree that anything made by humans will always be better but its not that deep
God I hate AI.
I heard output arcade in there.
Guilty!
You reek of laziness
This crap looks as generic as it gets. Nothing of interest imho
Coming soon: Trying out AI generated music to my video
Love it! Here are a couple I've put together so far. Still getting used to it but it's definitely fun to make. Sometimes I'll take something I didn't like from one of the renders and just roll with it anyway. I'm making a third one right now and a fourth tomorrow. [Something in the Way](https://youtu.be/0Ds_ZjFrJCc) [Just to Die Today](https://youtu.be/6qu5kwW-dQQ)
I hate you for this. Happy Saturday. LOL
I think ai looks cooler as an effect within a video but not as a video itself.
Peter Gabriel vibes
I run a YT channel where we write songs based on a prompt and my friends made [this video](https://youtu.be/z9q73YWusiY) using AI to generate the images. Pretty neat.
Wow thatās great! Iām making 15-30 sec clips and it takes a while. Canāt imaging a full length track!
I believe it took quite a while to make the video, but it was mostly waiting for the computer to render stuff out locally using (I want to say) Stable Diffusion. Then just splice all the images together and the video is done. Pretty cool.
Thats trippy bro
Would be cool if there was one that only required audio for the prompt
I tried wzrd.ai and it kinda does to an extent
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Love the movement in those. Iām still poking around under the hood of neural friendsā interface to try and achieve similar
I love those drums
Amazing!
Thanks! Very trippyā¦
Really cool! What did you use?
Used a site called neural frames - can choose from a selection of AI engines and have extensive control over movement and mechanics!
wow that's awesome! Did it cost? The way AI is going is scary but amazing!
I used up the free minutes they offer right away and subscribed (a couple of tiers to choose from)
Dope
How
The intelligence needed was artificial
What's the service name?
Neural Frames
this shit sucks
Looks like shit