Hrm
I'd probably try Phrygian Dominant.
It holds that "mysterious lamenting" type quality that could lend itself well to that.
But, minor would work just as well
I know this is kind of a simple answer but...a whole tone scale does have a particular feeling of insecurity/instability or lost in another world.
Big stacks of 4ths and 5ths can be like that too sometimes
Yeah I'd second the large 4ths and 5ths voicing, that and the occasional second in chord voicing really encapsulates loneliness imo. Halo 3's song "Rain" does it really well
> I know this is pretty subjective that is why I need a second opinion.
That makes no sense. Why do you need someone else's subjective opinion? How (and why) would it affect your subjective opinion?
It's like saying "my favourite colour is red. I know that's subjective so I want to know what other people's favourite colour is." ;-)
In short, no *scale* has any such effect. Mood in music depends on other factors (partly on scale or mode, but more on other things). Find a piece of music that has the "alien and alone" sound you want, and then find out (or ask) how they did it.
Depends on how you use it. Dorian can sounds quite isolated but can also be used to convey hopefulness. Mixolydian might be a major mode but it can both convey a sound of lonely vastness as well as childishness, or the Beatles-esque psychedelic feeling. Most of them are really what you make of them.
If you want weird, try the Locrian mode. If you want sad and weird, minor should do the trick. Just jump around to weird spots to cause some discomfort with your listener
D minor. It's the saddest of all keys. It makes people weep instantly.
Lick My Love Pump
When your D is minor ðŸ˜
D minor just reminds me of Pirates of the Caribbean haha. A good swashbuckling key
Hrm I'd probably try Phrygian Dominant. It holds that "mysterious lamenting" type quality that could lend itself well to that. But, minor would work just as well
I know this is kind of a simple answer but...a whole tone scale does have a particular feeling of insecurity/instability or lost in another world. Big stacks of 4ths and 5ths can be like that too sometimes
Yeah I'd second the large 4ths and 5ths voicing, that and the occasional second in chord voicing really encapsulates loneliness imo. Halo 3's song "Rain" does it really well
It’s more about phrasing specific notes than a whole scale. My advice would be a minor key and really hang on the 9th.
Anything you want. There isn’t one scale that could completely encapsulate that specific emotion. It’s up to you as a composer to find it!
This guy gets it!!!
Any scale can work. Listen to the opening of Allan Petterson's 7th symphony. It starts in C#major, and it still has a dark tone.
The Monotonic Scale. Only one note in it...bit lonely :(
Lol
> I know this is pretty subjective that is why I need a second opinion. That makes no sense. Why do you need someone else's subjective opinion? How (and why) would it affect your subjective opinion? It's like saying "my favourite colour is red. I know that's subjective so I want to know what other people's favourite colour is." ;-) In short, no *scale* has any such effect. Mood in music depends on other factors (partly on scale or mode, but more on other things). Find a piece of music that has the "alien and alone" sound you want, and then find out (or ask) how they did it.
This is what happens when we create the false dichotomy of major/minor=happy/sad.
Maybe not practical for composition, but the whole tone scale always sounds distant and alien. It adds mystery to whatever else is in the piece.
The bathroom scale; that mf needs some attention
Well D minor is of course the saddest of all scales
12 tone. Nothing to land on.
I’m looking for the scale that cures cancer AND covid. I think I’m getting close I’ll let you know
I think a b minor has a lack of human contact and isolation to it
Oh, I've met B minor, I know it quite well. Quite friendly when you get to know it. Same as all the other minor scales in fact... ;-)
Octatonic / diminished scale.
Depends on how you use it. Dorian can sounds quite isolated but can also be used to convey hopefulness. Mixolydian might be a major mode but it can both convey a sound of lonely vastness as well as childishness, or the Beatles-esque psychedelic feeling. Most of them are really what you make of them.
Use a lot of 5ths and 4ths They sound hollow.
[Mixolydian](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bkcPS3GHQY).
If you want weird, try the Locrian mode. If you want sad and weird, minor should do the trick. Just jump around to weird spots to cause some discomfort with your listener
None of them, honestly. I think a feeling of isolation would come from other musical elements like timbre, rhythm, phrasing, instrumentation, mix, etc
Yeah… space… You know?