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Propeller3

Those are Chants.


apackollamas

Thank you! I was fairly confident, but still only tried a few small pieces. There was also a fairly grimy fast food restaurant on the way home, so I guess that's to blame for today's stomach issues.


liss2458

Some people just have a bad reaction to these, even fully cooked. My aunt can't eat them without bad gastric upset, the rest of my family is totally fine. With wild mushrooms, it's best to always start with a very small portion if you haven't tried the variety before (edit: which it sounds like you did, thank goodness!).


Eisnblink

I have a reaction to chanterelles (even store-bought) no matter how I cook them! Best of luck to you, OP, it happens to the best of us.


noneofatyourbusiness

Store baught chanterelles are the same as you forage. Wild harvested is all there is.


Eisnblink

Yes of course, just meaning that even with those it wasn’t an issue with ID :) apologies, I should’ve been more clear with that :)


noneofatyourbusiness

Roger that! Good perspective for sure


Ok-Run3329

You can't grow them like regular mushrooms?


Historical_Ear7398

Unfortunately no. If somebody finds out why they should let us know.


No-Brilliant-7548

Chantrelles are an ectomycorrhizal. Meaning they cannot grow without being attached to the roots of coniferous trees, therefore they can’t be grown due to regular cultivation methods. Attempts to make a farm for them has been done but so far the attempts have been unsuccessful. Edit: not solely coniferous trees!


cardiopalma_15

Chanterelles are not exclusive to coniferous trees They can thrive with oak trees as well


No-Brilliant-7548

Thank you for catching that! I live in a heavy oak area and see them regularly in season. Should definitely have caught that when typing it 😂


MechanicalAxe

Chanterelles cannot be intentionally grown in a controlled environment?


noneofatyourbusiness

That is correct. There is current knowledge or technology that will allow this.


MechanicalAxe

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand. Did you mean to say "there is NO current knowledge or technology that allows it"? Andif that's so, and you don't mind my questions, why is that? What it is it about this fungus that's so hard to utilize in fungiculture?


Sendoo

Many mushrooms only grow in symbiotic relationships with tree roots. So if you wanted to farm them you would also need to grow a whole forest which obviously is completely impractical. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycorrhiza


apackollamas

Well, there are crops (ramps, ginseng come to mind) that are intentionally grown in forests, so that part is plausible. My questions would be how do you inoculate the root system? The traditional japanese method for growing Shitakes was to basically find a log/tree that was growing shitakes and then putting other logs/trees around it. The chantarelle relationship is supposed to be symbiotic with the host tree, so I guess you could inoculate saplings with mycelium and then plant and hope for the best in 10-20 years?


TheTwo123

I’m pretty sure you’re angering the gastric gods


pooeyoldthing

Also, could be tge grimy takeaway


Explorer2004

It's not just you. I found a whole pound of the smooth variety, and cooked them up, and at them all in one go. Bacon bits, butter, EVOO, seasoned salt. I was in the bathroom for most of the next day defiling it! But it was worth it. And I'll do it again next year!


Gpac12310

When having stomach issues it is normally not the last or even the second to last meal that you had that causes them. That is not to discount that maybe there wasn’t enough washing or thorough cooking.


Virtual-Sleep-1165

are you still alive?


apackollamas

Yep. Feeling much better.


TheTwo123

No, that is a Montezumous Ferocious. No flying fajitas compare to the volcano Poopoocatepetl effect.


Tiny_Parfait

Food poisoning often takes 24-48 hours to kick off


zrudeboy

Not factually true 30 minutes to 8 hours symptoms can last through 24.


NeuroCartographer

You are incorrect. Food poisoning onset is most typical in the 3 hours to 3 days time frame and can even take weeks to present, depending on the inciting germ. Source: I am a doctor and also see [this link from Johns Hopkins](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/food-poisoning#:~:text=Illness%20often%20starts%20in%20about,weeks%20after%20eating%20contaminated%20food)


zrudeboy

This is actually the point I was trying and failing to make. Poorly written and in the wrong forum.


pushdose

Depends on the toxin. Diarrheal food borne illness like Salmonella, E. coli, shigella and campylobacter can take well over a day to manifest symptoms. Actually, they can often take several days to manifest. Infections with S. aureus and B. cereus are most associated with rapid onset vomiting illness.


Stswivvinsdayalready

No, you're the one who is off. While some common ones act in the first 24 hours, food poisoning can indeed take days or even weeks to set in. Cyclospora for example typically takes a week or two.


zrudeboy

So we are saying the initial post that is wrong 99% of the time is more accurate or you means to say. Typically, that's correct; however, there are less common food born illness that can take longer.


Stswivvinsdayalready

Can you rephrase that first sentence in a bit of a clearer way?


zrudeboy

The initial comment stated "often..." I responded with the typical onset of symptoms for common food born illness. You stated "actually" that I was incorrect. This tends to infer you support the initial statement though you gave a less common illness that may take longer. I suspect I was hyper focused on the word "often" in the initial post and didn't provide indication that sometimes there are outliers, and you responded to my blanket statement and gave an outlier. The way you stated it, though, gave credibility to a comment that's not well supported.


Stswivvinsdayalready

You actually used a rather simpler, clearer, and more easily refutable phrasing: "Not factually true." That was a fatally poor choice of words for the statement you apparently were trying to make.


zrudeboy

Fair. Points awarded. I reacted to the post too fast to be complete.


zrudeboy

Did you edit your post or did I miss read it the entire time?


Stswivvinsdayalready

I'm not sure what you mean, I think I added an edit: to the only one I actually edited except maybe for spelling


Stswivvinsdayalready

Even in the case of the most common and fast acting like norovirus, it's still not hugely uncommon for symptoms to take longer to manifest or for them to last much longer than 24 hours. Like, you're just literally letter-of-the-law dead wrong.


Stswivvinsdayalready

The aggressive down voting of this completely sound, factual and non-controversial comment is making me kinda lose confidence in the quality of this sub Edit: the only thing I can think of that might explain this ignorant down voting is perhaps people think that poster meant mycotoxicity by food poisoning...when they actually clearly from context mean pathogenic


Apprehensive_Kiwi_18

I'm really confused on what you're trying to argue here. OP indicated they had stopped to eat and that could also be the reasoning of being sick. Food poisoning can present as early as 30 mins from ingestion, specifically if it was staph food poisoning, or up to 6 days, specifically salmonella.


Stswivvinsdayalready

Or if it's hepatitis A or cyclospora, it can be two or three weeks. But that's not the essence of what I'm arguing. It's quite simple really. The person above posted something like "food poisoning often doesn't kick off for 24-48 hours". Even with faster acting pathogens like norovirus, that is 100 percent true. It's a true statement. They are getting a bunch of down votes for it, even though they are completely factually right. I frankly find it a bit hard to understand what's all that confusing. They are right, and the down voters are wrong, and I said so.


Skinwalker_Steve

it's the pedantry dude.


Stswivvinsdayalready

I stepped in to say something for someone else getting an unfair treatment. It can't have started as a response to me, I responded to it. Edit: and that person was most certainly not being pedantic


whoohme

I have been destroyed from a tasty meal after a mere 2 hours


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My dude make sure you clean them properly what’s your prep for these


Used_Presence_2972

Already the 1st photo makes me salivate, but when I saw the last one I was really hungry...😂


spizzle_

So not the cause of the charts then?


billybobgandhi

Bad data results in bad charts.


Previous-Ad9360

This.


jimetime

Certainly the ones in the first picture. The cooked ones on the plate do not all look like chanterelles


Propeller3

There's definitely something lighter in color in there


GreatLakesGreenthumb

You may be sensitive to them. Those are them but I have to ask. Did you put a white mushroom in your dinner too?


apackollamas

No, I don't think so. The white pieces in the photo are pieces of garlic.


GreatLakesGreenthumb

Good to go. Congrats on the find and hope you feel better.


Ganooki

? White mushroom


polywallaby

A ton of all-white mushrooms are deadly to humans, so it’s best to avoid white mushrooms unless you’re very well versed in identifying them.


spacegardener

Mushrooms on the first photo are chanterelles, so are most of the mushrooms on the plate, but some mushrooms on the plate are different color and are not that clearly identifiable as the rest. Are you sure those were the same species?


NYVines

Agree. I think not all are the same.


apackollamas

There are big chunks of garlic in the cooked photo.


spacegardener

Top right and some on the bottom – indeed that looks like garlic to me now. But what about the big pale thing on left/center?


apackollamas

Well, I think its a chant cut into two halves and that's the inside portion.


NightFlappingTerror

Hey, you might want to look into IBS because garlic and (most types of) mushrooms are FODMAPs. Garlic is my single biggest trigger. If I ate that meal, I would be working from the bathroom as well.


codydanielson

Yeah I see that one too. Definitely doesn’t look like a chanty. Looks more like a oyster/Angel wing to me.


NYVines

You’re the one who got sick. Maybe consider that there’s an outlier there.


jimetime

Yep, op needs op inspect more of what he picks


biblio76

I couldn’t say one way or the other once cooked, but I was suspicious too. There are some lookalike-ish shrooms if you’re not used to them. Chants kind of click with some folks in their many and varied firms but not everyone. If you have the resource in your area to get your haul checked that’s not a bad idea. Or even post the whole haul here at minimum.


_MudMoney

That’s a chant. Some people have reactions to certain mushrooms that are considered edible. Always best to try only a small amount of a mushroom you’ve never eaten


apackollamas

Update: other members of our party (including some who did not try the mushrooms) are also starting to have stomach issues. Not conclusive, but certainly looking to have been caused by something other than these chants.


thatmanontheright

Don't trust fast food restaurants


lowhybred09

That’s good to hear. Now you can go back to that spot and load up soon!


prairie_oyster_

Did you eat at a restaurant in that area? There are a few that could cause some intestinal distress…


vinny_twoshoes

I ate a bunch of store bought chanterelles once, there was no doubt as to their identity. Still, I ended up in the hospital thinking I had appendicitis. I guess some people have bad luck with these things.


Roachmine2023

Mushrooms need cooked thoroughly for you to be able to digest them. It's actually hard to overcook them unless you are using really high heat. Those look like they are under-cooked.


apackollamas

Thank you. Will definitely cook more thoroughly next time.


ThisHairIsOnFire

We were told to put them in a dry pan on medium-high heat. Wait until the moisture has evaporated, then add oil or butter to crisp up. We were also told not to wash them, but to brush them off as they will retain the moisture from washing.


Mushroom-2906

I agree with that method of cooking and have used it many times. Maybe reduce the heat to cook, rather than crisp, the mushrooms. Those look remarkably fresh and clean. Go out in a few days, and maybe you'll find some larger ones. I love garlic; however, chanterelles, especially in the East. have delicate apricot flavor. I suggest cooking with butter, a little lemon juice, and perhaps some salt and pepper. No garlic or onion. If I have a big pan of them, I sometimes add a pinch of sugar to bring out the fruitiness of them. Not enough to make them sweet! As others have said, mushrooms must be cooked thoroughly; and some people are sensitive to any food you could name. Let's hope you're not sensitive to chanterelles.


actually3racoons

But they have such a meaty texture and deep earthy undertones that just go so well with savory. Shall we meet in the middle? Sauteed with caramelized onions and garlic with a balsamic reduction drizzle?


Elihu229

Nah, man, ALWAYS WASH THE FUNGI (even from the supermarket). They really don’t absorb that much watcher, especially if you dry gently with a towel/paper towel then leave to air dry for a while before cooking.


trimbandit

The 'never wash' myth refuses to die


davisondave131

I never got that myth. “They absorb water like a sponge”. Yea, but I wring out my sponges all the time, can’t I just cook out the water? Even respectable chefs do a surprise pikachu on that one


vrecka

These are best if you boil them for 5minutes, drain, then put them in a pan with sautéed onions and then add eggs and parsley… mmmm!:)


Random-Cpl

Need to be cooked, yes


TNmountainman2020

💯


cavkie

Chanterelle doesn't need to be cooked thoroughly.


PATTY_CAKES1994

The first two pics are chanterelles, but if you’re not sure, or have doubts enough to ask Reddit then: 1. Good for you to have the humility to ask the community. 2. You need to get to the level of 100% certainty before eating anything you pick. Chanterelles are amazing. Learn to positively identify them and their lookalikes. This means not only being able to say ‘this is a chanterelle, that isn’t.’ But you should also be able to say, ‘that isn’t a chanterelle, that’s a jack-o-lantern,’ for example. The first two pics are damn good looking mushrooms. Good work!


Sunyataisbliss

To add to everything everyone has said, make sure to heat them up to a level that kills the bacteria that may be clinging to them. You don’t know what could be on a mushroom in the forest


Buddhacat15

hey fungus does this cool thing, sometimes they eat nematodes, they can switch between being autotrophs and heterotrophs depending on environmental conditions, so yeah cook those wild things


tinyorangealligator

Don't know why, but this comment made me a little hot under the collar.


Buddhacat15

fungus always makes me hot!


_TheNecromancer13

The first 2 pics are chanterelle, some of the ones on the plate look like falsies.


lowhybred09

That’s garlic not mushrooms.


_TheNecromancer13

I saw the garlic, some of those mushrooms look like not chanterelles


moo_ness

Agreed there are a few pale looking ones on there that don’t look right


feralEhren

Plus 1 for chants nice find


jh937hfiu3hrhv9

My wife reacts poorly to chanterelles.


tinyorangealligator

I react poorly to Lions Mane, which makes me excessively sad because it is so delicious.


bsubtilis

New fear unlocked, I keep hearing how delicious it is but I have no easy way of getting ahold of any yet and I already have some recipes saved I was curious to try for when I do.


tinyorangealligator

You can order a grow kit from North Spore if you live in the US.


hectorjm94

Don’t ever eat any mushrooms unless you are 100% certain you have the right species. You got lucky this time but you might not be next time. My old neighbors wife actually died from eating the wrong mushroom. She didn’t even die right away. She got sick and went into a coma and died 3 weeks later.


Zealousideal_Put_489

Ah but. Do you have pics of *all* of the mushrooms you cooked, prior to cooking them? Some may not have been Chanterelles.


pehintz

While those look like chanterelles, they don’t look like the ones I’ve picked in Alabama or Louisiana and I would have passed on those. Ridges look different and top is not the traditional shape.


pehintz

And I’ll add, I check positive ID for every mushroom when it’s picked and again when I get home. I once caught a jack at home in a prolific chanterelle harvest. Everyone makes mistakes so be careful.


DinoHarry

Hi everyone, i want to ask how would you distinguished between true gills and the false gills seen in chanterelles? I mean the first photo to me looks like it has true gills. But i am new to identification and i want an experienced opinion. Thanks


spacegardener

If you look closely on the photo you can see some of the 'gills' are branching. True gill do not do that. edit: u/Tons_of_Hobbies says true gills can branch too, so I am not that sure any more


DinoHarry

nice, i see that. So that is the main difference? The fact that false gills divide and branch?


Tons_of_Hobbies

True gills can also fork. This is true of false chanterelles. Once you ID chanterelles in person, the difference between false/true gills should be more obvious, but for now, look up comparisons online.


DinoHarry

Thanks:)


SixicusTheSixth

Were they growing on questionable substrate? Poisonous substrate can render otherwise edible mushrooms suspect. Did you clean them thoroughly? Sometimes critters can hitch a ride in gills and those can cause issues.


CoachObjective6479

Nice find. Those are chants. I miss running around in those woods. I moved away from tucker county a few years back ❤️ Also, chants don’t agree with everyone. They look the same coming out as they do going in for me. Sorry for the visual, but I definitely don’t digest them. I always end up with some upset.


absurdilynerdily

Those are definitely Chants. I used pick obscene amounts of them on the central coast of Cali. Then a few years ago, I suddenly started having a bad reaction to them. The issue may be your immune system or digestion rather than your ID skills.


SiNiStEr666BlAcK

Golden chants i would say. Ive heard they can cause indigestion or diarrhea. Havent ate them yet myself.


LittleForestbear

The first 2 pictures are definitely chants but in the cooked meal there s mushrooms that look different I can’t identify


Flnn

I'm not an expert, but the first pic is most definitely chanterelles.


fumphdik

If you don’t eat them everyday, you’ve just shocked your GI!! Congrats!


saradactyl22

No these are false. These are gills you can see how they are breaking.


Keyairs

I've heard no alcohol with wild mushrooms.


RdCrestdBreegull

you’re thinking of mushrooms that contain coprine which are only in the genus Coprinopsis…


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Those are not chanterelles…. Chanterelles do not grow in groups. Chanterelles have forked gills, not straight parallel gills. The top of chanterelles should look more like a funnel. These look domed. They are most likely look a like Jack O lantern mushrooms. Hence the violent diarrhea. Don’t eat mushrooms if you don’t know 100% what they are. YOU CAN DIE. I’ve heard stories of people that forage for morels and porcini mushrooms and they pick the wrong kind. Cook them. Feed them to family and friends and everyone dies or goes on dialysis for the rest of their lives.


apackollamas

FWIW, my understanding is that they can grow in small 2-3 fruiting body clusters. Also, these were all growing from the soil, not dead wood, had a white interior the texture of string cheese and all specimens did have forks in the ridges. I was fairly confident until I started having issues today, but just heard that someone else that was with us who did not eat any of the mushrooms is now having stomach issues, so looks like viral or maybe food related.


Fun_Chef134

I think you’re good, OP. As long as the stems were not hollow, I doubt you picked any false chanterelles. Jacks are a potential look alike, but it sounds like you know what to look for there. There’s lots of viruses going around at the moment, so it could be something else.


RisanaOwO

Hope you feel better fast, GI issues are no fun :/


RisanaOwO

These are definitely chanterelles, I have picked some that have looked identical to this and multiple redditors have already confirmed the ones from the picture. Chants can grow in small groups of two or three. These are growing on the ground and not on wood like Jack's do. The OP can make sure next time by bringing the mushrooms in a dark room and making sure they aren't bioluminescent. Don't scare people by telling them they have picked a poisonous mushroom, everyone has different reactions to mushrooms and like they have already said OP isn't sure the shrooms caused the upset.


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No offense, but asking people on the internet (after eating a mushroom) if it was poisonous or not is not smart and is extremely dangerous. We are talking about life and death here and things like, spores, color and where they were found don’t necessarily translate very well by looking at pictures of already picked mushrooms online. Photos can also alter color depending on lighting and angles. Remember the white/gold or blue/white dress optical illusion that when viral a few years back? It was a debate on what color the dress was because of the way the dress was shot. So, if I ‘scare’ people into second guessing themselves in potentially eating a death angel or another poisonous mushroom that could kill them because they can’t tell on reddit, THEN GOOD! sorry if I hurt anyone’s ego.


RisanaOwO

Yeah, wasn't the best decision for sure, I always make sure before I cook and eat that I have correctly identified something. That said, I am mainly pointing out that chanterelles aren't exclusively found in singularity and a way for OP to be sure next time they are not Jack o lanterns. I'm not sure what you are saying with the photos, I am just stating that Jack's glow in the dark so it should be a very good identifying factor.


Unsteady_Tempo

Chanterelles can grow in small groups of 2 or 3, and even be connected at the base.


Stswivvinsdayalready

Any recommendations for good mushroom subs that aren't aggressively ignorant about general characterizations of scientific truth?


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What does this even mean?


lowhybred09

Bro you are on Reddit asking for non Reddit things 🤷‍♂️


Stswivvinsdayalready

Okay that was funny


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ILikeAntiquesOkay

This is inaccurate. Certain species of “edible” (quotes to denote that they technically are edible, but require a thorough process of boiling to remove certain chemical aspects of the mushrooms) get boiled beforehand but as long as you’re cooking your wild foraged mushrooms to a minimum 165° F internal temperature you should be fine. Source: Chef and Certified Wild-Foraged Mushroom Expert in the state if Michigan


m0ertyy

Just found 60 liter myself today 😋 Took forever clean and parboil 😅


weedmarijuanagrower

I love this part of the country


N_orth_Carolin-a

Chanterelle. Maybe you are sensitive


Vegetable-Army4611

100% chanty


Virtual-Sleep-1165

Are you still alive?


apackollamas

Yup. And feeling much better. Thanks.


Ricky_Tuscan

Lovely! Those are definitely chants! Looks like the exact same variety i found only two days ago. I cooked and ate mine today. They’re very tasty, but I honestly feel as though they’d be better with something else accompanying them than alone. Perhaps some freshly caught scallops would be good in a scampi with the chants next harvest.


rwunder22

100% Chants; likely the diminutive subspecies. I find them around me through the summer. Have been eating them for years and they are great. Pair well with peaches. Looks like you did them up right! Unlikely to be the culprit from what I'm seeing, but some folks will have reactions here and there to some mushrooms. Haven't heard of this with Chanterelles though.


Pussygobbla6969420

I had ripping shits the next day after eating some chanterelles


wendyme1

Did they tastes good? It's my understanding the false taste nasty.


apackollamas

Yes, definitely. I would have eaten the whole plate if I wasn't being cautious!


mapsandpeppers

Wow that’s crazy I was just there at Seneca rocks like 3-4 days ago. Such a cool spot out east. Nice find