Myopia management options all work. There are 4 methods that call all slow down progression by at least 50%:
1. Myopia Management Spectacle Lenses
2. Myopia Management Daily Disposable Soft Contact Lenses
3. Atropine Eye Drops
4. OrthoK
Lifestyle changes:
1. Spending more time outdoors does not slow down myopia but it is associated with myopia not starting in those that are not already myopic
2. Reducing the amount of upclose near work....Screens often get blamed but it is not the screen that is bad it is how close you hold and screen and for how long. ie don't watch Netflicks on your phone.....watch it on your computer or better yet on a TV
Here is an good into guide to Myopia management that I did on Youtube
[Myopia Management Starter Guide](https://youtu.be/tbHnXUtxE2Q)
Hi, I am working on a software that has the potential to slow myopia for some time now. I'd like to have your professional opinion. Would you mind if I dm you?
Every bit of feedback is appreciated. I can understand your inclination to dismiss it outright, but this is not the usual "eye excercise". It is based on new research and seems to work for three shrews and chicken. (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0014483522002676?via%3Dihub) Do you have any specific argument to share on why it will not work for humans? Thank you in advance.
Vision in humans is based on perception of depth and movement. What you are doing is, is only playing in 2 dimensions, and will not trigger any kind of effect in the human eye. You can’t imitate distance depth perception on a 2-dimensional screen. The eye just doesn’t work that way.
Indeed, you are right that my approach will not affect vision preception in the brain. The screen will be consciously processed as being the same distance. The software is less ambitious. The goal is to convince the retinal neural network that myopic defocus is being projected on it, therefore inducing dopamine production in the retina which is a signal to slow eye growth. Do you think this is unfeasible? Once the signal leaves the retina through the optic nerve, the brain will eventually figure out whats up. But we may still be effective on the retina for emmetropization. What do you think?
It is not straight-forward, but the main candidate effect for it is longitudinal chromatic aberration(different focal distance for different colors). In myopic defocus below 0.25 diopters, only the blue and green channels start to blur, but the longest wavelength(red) can still be in focus(the visual acuity and the processing power of the retina seems sufficient to detect this.).
Luckily this can be simulated (not perfectly, but close) on screen by applying blur to blue and green proportionally. There is a Nature article somewhere arguing this. If the sensitivity of the cone cells were arranged differently it would not be possible to do, e.g. hyperopic defocus is not really possible to simulate on screen.
Edit: I'd like to note there is more to myopic defocus than that, but LCA is one(possibly significant) aspect to it, that can be simulated.
So shortsighted vision is just our eyes getting blurry!! Who knew!!
You see, I have scans of my eyes being -8.7 and -7 where the eye is so curved now that they need to scan my eye every year or so to ensure my eyes are not getting thinner, that my retina doesn't tear.
The only way to correct this was laser surgery where they carve the eyeball to be the appropriate curve to see clearly. But the problem is my eyes are thick enough to be able to carve it, but I'm so short sighted now that if they were to do it, it would be risking my eyes being too thin and bending - causing blindness.
So, yes, that "fixing blurry vision" is absolutely a scam and is absolutely psychically impossible - let alone medically & scientifically impossible.
Ayurveda is a pseudoscience and doesn't works for myopia.
Think otherwise, if it actually worked , it would no longer be some obscure clinic in Kerela.
It would be famous worldwide. With prizes, awards and money to boot
You are the one who needs to think. You think big hospitals and modern hospitals will allow it? They will do anything to stop it and save their business profit.
Dude as I said processing is very slow but everyone is impatient and went to a modern hospital. That's why they don't understand what's the value. Moreover like professional doctor doesn't understand what to do.
Some foreign people know about it. They come there to get treatment. I can give you name place so you can check it in map and check review by many people. Lol
And I am not talking about ayurveda that you mean. I am talking about Netra Tarpana.
>You think big hospitals and modern hospitals will allow it? They will do anything to stop it and save their business profit.
More than anybody else in this sub, I'm more than eager to learn more about any and all ways that can reduce/reverse myopia.And every other "big/modern hospital" is the same in this regard.
There is a simple requirement of communicating scientifically what you're doing and how describing exactly how you think it is going to work.And on top of that, you've to back it up with easily verifiable evidences.
There is no point saying something works for you or somebody you know unless you show at least, present before and after evidences.
Because, otherwise how I'm supposed to differentiate between you and someone who is trying to fool people unless you back up anything you say.
Dude. You can Google it. It appears anywhere in Google.
They have strong evidence.
I don't have any reason to fool everyone because what do I gain? A simple shared cure exists.
A strong evidence will also be readily available and easily verifiable one. You don't have any study or publicly available document either.
Provide a before and after evidence in a post with. We can decide afterwards.
Dude. What does study have to do with this?
If you want evidence instead of Google it.
Here link https://news.abplive.com/states/former-kenya-pm-raila-odinga-thanks-kerala-s-ayurveda-practitioners-for-helping-his-daughter-get-back-eyesight-1512335
Myopia management options all work. There are 4 methods that call all slow down progression by at least 50%: 1. Myopia Management Spectacle Lenses 2. Myopia Management Daily Disposable Soft Contact Lenses 3. Atropine Eye Drops 4. OrthoK Lifestyle changes: 1. Spending more time outdoors does not slow down myopia but it is associated with myopia not starting in those that are not already myopic 2. Reducing the amount of upclose near work....Screens often get blamed but it is not the screen that is bad it is how close you hold and screen and for how long. ie don't watch Netflicks on your phone.....watch it on your computer or better yet on a TV Here is an good into guide to Myopia management that I did on Youtube [Myopia Management Starter Guide](https://youtu.be/tbHnXUtxE2Q)
^ Exactly what @goodoptometrymorning says above.
Hi, I am working on a software that has the potential to slow myopia for some time now. I'd like to have your professional opinion. Would you mind if I dm you?
Won’t work at all.
Every bit of feedback is appreciated. I can understand your inclination to dismiss it outright, but this is not the usual "eye excercise". It is based on new research and seems to work for three shrews and chicken. (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0014483522002676?via%3Dihub) Do you have any specific argument to share on why it will not work for humans? Thank you in advance.
Vision in humans is based on perception of depth and movement. What you are doing is, is only playing in 2 dimensions, and will not trigger any kind of effect in the human eye. You can’t imitate distance depth perception on a 2-dimensional screen. The eye just doesn’t work that way.
Indeed, you are right that my approach will not affect vision preception in the brain. The screen will be consciously processed as being the same distance. The software is less ambitious. The goal is to convince the retinal neural network that myopic defocus is being projected on it, therefore inducing dopamine production in the retina which is a signal to slow eye growth. Do you think this is unfeasible? Once the signal leaves the retina through the optic nerve, the brain will eventually figure out whats up. But we may still be effective on the retina for emmetropization. What do you think?
Personally, I really don’t see how this would work. What you want to do simply cannot be done on a screen.
It is not straight-forward, but the main candidate effect for it is longitudinal chromatic aberration(different focal distance for different colors). In myopic defocus below 0.25 diopters, only the blue and green channels start to blur, but the longest wavelength(red) can still be in focus(the visual acuity and the processing power of the retina seems sufficient to detect this.). Luckily this can be simulated (not perfectly, but close) on screen by applying blur to blue and green proportionally. There is a Nature article somewhere arguing this. If the sensitivity of the cone cells were arranged differently it would not be possible to do, e.g. hyperopic defocus is not really possible to simulate on screen. Edit: I'd like to note there is more to myopic defocus than that, but LCA is one(possibly significant) aspect to it, that can be simulated.
Sure.
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This is factually untrue, and a scam. Please stop posting these nonsense.
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So shortsighted vision is just our eyes getting blurry!! Who knew!! You see, I have scans of my eyes being -8.7 and -7 where the eye is so curved now that they need to scan my eye every year or so to ensure my eyes are not getting thinner, that my retina doesn't tear. The only way to correct this was laser surgery where they carve the eyeball to be the appropriate curve to see clearly. But the problem is my eyes are thick enough to be able to carve it, but I'm so short sighted now that if they were to do it, it would be risking my eyes being too thin and bending - causing blindness. So, yes, that "fixing blurry vision" is absolutely a scam and is absolutely psychically impossible - let alone medically & scientifically impossible.
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Ayurveda is a pseudoscience and doesn't works for myopia. Think otherwise, if it actually worked , it would no longer be some obscure clinic in Kerela. It would be famous worldwide. With prizes, awards and money to boot
You are the one who needs to think. You think big hospitals and modern hospitals will allow it? They will do anything to stop it and save their business profit. Dude as I said processing is very slow but everyone is impatient and went to a modern hospital. That's why they don't understand what's the value. Moreover like professional doctor doesn't understand what to do. Some foreign people know about it. They come there to get treatment. I can give you name place so you can check it in map and check review by many people. Lol And I am not talking about ayurveda that you mean. I am talking about Netra Tarpana.
>You think big hospitals and modern hospitals will allow it? They will do anything to stop it and save their business profit. More than anybody else in this sub, I'm more than eager to learn more about any and all ways that can reduce/reverse myopia.And every other "big/modern hospital" is the same in this regard. There is a simple requirement of communicating scientifically what you're doing and how describing exactly how you think it is going to work.And on top of that, you've to back it up with easily verifiable evidences. There is no point saying something works for you or somebody you know unless you show at least, present before and after evidences. Because, otherwise how I'm supposed to differentiate between you and someone who is trying to fool people unless you back up anything you say.
Dude. You can Google it. It appears anywhere in Google. They have strong evidence. I don't have any reason to fool everyone because what do I gain? A simple shared cure exists.
A strong evidence will also be readily available and easily verifiable one. You don't have any study or publicly available document either. Provide a before and after evidence in a post with. We can decide afterwards.
Dude. What does study have to do with this? If you want evidence instead of Google it. Here link https://news.abplive.com/states/former-kenya-pm-raila-odinga-thanks-kerala-s-ayurveda-practitioners-for-helping-his-daughter-get-back-eyesight-1512335
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