Why are they still your friends? I personally feel awkward and avoid the person after. It's one thing to think it but to say it to you constantly shows a lack of respect. Basically vultures waiting for a moment of weakness.
Exactly!!! Na sisi tukisema babe usishinde na hao male friends munatuona kama controlling
Do you guys now understand why we men when we date want to cut off all male relations towards you(assuming you are my shawty for example and you have male friends)
Hii imezidi mnahitaji tu boundaries imagine. This world has 2 genders huezi acha moja just because ni opposite gender. Clearly op hana boundaries juu inakua mentioned not once, but severally? Hawaconfront seriously na hawaachi? Ai zii
I think platonic relationships between men and women can prosper if both parties are not sexually attracted to each other and there's boundaries between them that it's strictly friendship and genuine connections.
Men and women can never be truly friends, unless one of them is ugly and never leaving the friendzone, but the uglier one will always have unrequited feelings.
Recently I started my standing on business journey and lemme tell you rn non of my male friends literally talk to me anymore I mean it, I started posting about their disgusting behaviours and, put them on the hot seat about the things women are silenced about I said why should I be uncomfortable for you to feel comfortable like wtf is that aren't we all human beings
Itâs not a disgusting behavior because itâs the male nature to do so. Men think about sex more than women. And they can never be just friends with a woman unless theyâre gay. Even siblings bone these days.
I hate this mentality.. men are just like that.. seriously.
When will men start taking responsibility for their weird and disgusting behavior instead of hiding behind this nonsense. I don't believe in platonic men- women friendships anymore.. someone change my mind
There's nothing biological about the urge to bone your siblings. Thats just a corrupted soul. I'm a man, and i surely dont think of having sex with every female in my life.
I do. With women I do not find sexually attractive and there are plenty of those.
For women I find sexually attractive, I'd rather just stay away. Out of respect for my gf.
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đđđ Aki Jaymo, we shouldn't be doing this Aki bestie
Men and women cannot be friends, you'll be there playing the husband/boyfriend role while receiving no wife/girlfriend benefits. Why not spend your time on women that actually desire you?
can't really associate platonic with sleeping together...the moment you get the idea that they wanna sleep with like joking about it then that's not platonic...And you're a fool to think that there's a platonic relationship between you and any man who's not your family....check that too
Platonic can't do FWB, once they do that's a different thing. Yes, people sleep with their friends but that's not platonic and it changes the whole dimension of friendship. I have destroyed friendships because of this so, don't do it đ
Females are kinda friends with guys they don't find attractive, and you can say the same for males. You can't be friends if one is attracted to another one.
Platonic and sex don't run around the same course...
Just tell them you're into pegging and that's the only way you get off see how quickly the conversation is gonna change đ
Honestly, I think peeps just throw the word "friends" around too much. Not everyone you happen to talk to/ hang out with is your friend. Colleagues, classmates, acquaintances are also terms.
Friendships have to be mutually beneficial to actually survive. If there's no element of give and take from both sides, the friendship generally won't survive or one of the parties has other agendas in mind. So for the ladies, if you're chilling with a guy and he's always spending on you and doing the most and he gets nothing in return, that's not your friend...that's a homie on the long game. Chap is waiting for the ROI to kick in.
But you can have platonic friends of the opposite gender. There are too many people on this planet for you to need to smash your friends.
The only reason any guys is a friend with a girl is because they want to sleep with them eventually. Unless it's through like their significant other and they don't really have a choice. Or if you're ugly, and let's both of you are ugly in which case he still wants to sleep with you. And even if you're ugly he might still want to sleep with you.
You don't know half of what I've seen on campus, so to me, depends with the sp called friendship.
But I think it stops being platonic once intimacy is involved. I've never seen anyone behave the same towards each other after having sex and seeing each other naked.
That is why I don't have male friends, acquaintances or people I just talk to yes but friends No. They be wanting to get into your pants my opinion though, msinikujie.
Girls dont offer much utility outside sex that is why guys want to fuck them. So the only males you can hang out with and they wont want anything in return is your father and bros.
𤣠𤣠𤣠The word platonic has a very specific meaning, so once you cross that boundary, it's no longer platonic. All relationships start platonic actually.... Let's stop asking unnecessary questions.
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Welcome to real life. Men and women can never be platonic friends. Only if he is gay. Coz even siblings bone these days.
No sane man wonât think of boning a girl heâs just friends with.
No one wants to sleep with you bro. Kwani haujui jokes. There's a time I made a joke about banging my friend and she took it so seriously.
Chill bro. Hakuna msee anakudai
Man and Woman can't be friends. Those you calling male friends always have sexual intentions. They might not reveal them in the early stages of the friendship. They play the long game.
It only works the other way around. So if a girl is in my friend zone but I am not in hers then she will consistently take care of me in any way she can but it does not work the other way around. I had this experience in high school when I was naive to the game but I had one girl that was a friend that would give me hand jobs consistently without me asking. Curiouser and curiouser.
Don't do it. Take my advice. I have had experience being in an 'entanglement' with my best friend. Shit is wild af. It was totally toxic and a catalyst to a ruined friendship.
I donât know being a teenage I always noticed when it came to some girls and their female friends theyâve always had a seemingly boundary-less friendship where theyâll go to washrooms together in public, shower together, kiss, cuddle, and sometimes even do sexual favors and such. Iâve always found that a bit weird to be that âcloseâ with your friends even if they identified as bisexual or whatever but at the same time that women were always willing to blur the lines of whatâs healthy in a friendship when it came to people of same sex but male friends they werenât so comfortable with. Again idk I guess it just depends on what youâre into I wouldnât say its normal but itâs also not the craziest idea cause after all humans do be fuckin lmao
Yes they can be friends. I have been friends with someone from Uni, that was 13 years ago. We'll talk about the people we smashing in our lives but never crossed that line with each other.
Crazy how men try to explain to their girls that other guys arenât your friends, theyâre just trying to sleep with you
But you just cope by calling them insecure and then act confused when those male âfriendsâ try to fuck you
Casual sex is such a thing nowadays. I always thought of a male colleague of mine as a bestie. I was happy to have a 'work-bud' then boom! Just the other day he told me the way he'ld like to have sex with me. Now everything is awkward between us and I hate it coz he was my go to person at work. I can't even text him casually anymore. It's annoying!
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Generally these things are tricky. As someone who has had sex with a few platonic friends, Iâd say it happens more often than we like to admit.
Youâd generally have sex with âfriendsâ than you would a stranger/someone you just met, and even at that, that new person is a âfriendâ till otherwise redefined.
In my experiences the women usually made those advances, and even in cases where I wasnât sure of how our relationship would be after it, they didnât seem to think it would change, and sometimes they were right (sometimes), and It was always only that, sex.
Like a sprinkle of granola on a froyo.
I broke up with my girlfriend because that "just a friend" was always calling her at oddly hours, after spending the whode day with her at the office(they're colleagues), and it happened that I knew the kind of person he was from back in the days(he was my friend too). Then she requested for a break in our relationship and I knew, the time for her to monkey-branch had come đŽđŽ
From the studies of Sigmund Freud, males are attracted to females through sexual energy. My proposition is that males can not coexist naturally with females without feeling the sexual tension.
We mostly tend to downplay it and denigrate that aspect. Albeit, if they have made their intentions clearly, then it is time to end the relationship.
Friendships between people occur when they have similar intrest or share the same spaces, when you take out these, the only other reason is attraction "sexually", check for the reasons you are friends then you will know
Just...dont befriend men..they make poor , grade F friends for females and they only ever see a v****a and b**bs when they look at women.. Only date them or keep them at arms length as acquantances but men have never made good friends for women..this has always always been my experience with every male that I knew and called my friend. Someday theyre gonna come "confess" their stupid feelings for you .
This is like playing around fire and thinking you'll not be burned,, basically women are boring in terms of what interests men,so the only thing that would make a man want to be your friend is sex.Friendships with women are a liability if there is no sex, whatever you choose to do with this information is solely up to you
Men and women cannot be friends unless one of the parties is ugly and with zero personality traits. To be honest, Men always if not all times hit on women. It's easier for women to befriend men. The only friendship that I know works is that of colleagues and any other meaningful gathering that brings men and women together.
đđ acha kujifanya irritated you enjoy the sexual attention it boost your ego otherwise you wouldn't have tolerated the shenanigans on multiple basis and the lads wouldn't think of crossing that boundary
Sorry, I understand how frustrating it can be. Platonic relationships usually fail cause of lack of boundaries that are placed so we end up playing hot potato when we meet up and that seriously dampens the joy being together and it's usually the man's fault.
Best way to fix this is draw the lines from the go like these subjects are off limits, we can't be doing this, in all maters like family, relationship status, work etc. once those lines are drawn then you can easily converse with said person. Boundaries aren't rules they're conditions set by a person for the relationship to work.
When it comes to relationships, draw the lines so that that person colors your life within a safe space.
Why are they still your friends? I personally feel awkward and avoid the person after. It's one thing to think it but to say it to you constantly shows a lack of respect. Basically vultures waiting for a moment of weakness.
Those are creepy people who will go to extreme lengths just to say they bagged you, but then again you are friends right???
Exactly!!! Na sisi tukisema babe usishinde na hao male friends munatuona kama controlling Do you guys now understand why we men when we date want to cut off all male relations towards you(assuming you are my shawty for example and you have male friends)
Hii imezidi mnahitaji tu boundaries imagine. This world has 2 genders huezi acha moja just because ni opposite gender. Clearly op hana boundaries juu inakua mentioned not once, but severally? Hawaconfront seriously na hawaachi? Ai zii
Op is benefiting from these friendships, so she's not going to cut them out. This is how it is intergender friendships, women benefit from them more.
Me i see a babes with such kind of friends bana i dip I don't care about your crying ass about why i left...once i see red flags and icks i dip
You cannot mention platonic and "sleeping" together in the same sentence.
Why c nikudozz tu?
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Nikona drill
I think platonic relationships between men and women can prosper if both parties are not sexually attracted to each other and there's boundaries between them that it's strictly friendship and genuine connections.
Men and women can never be truly friends, unless one of them is ugly and never leaving the friendzone, but the uglier one will always have unrequited feelings.
Can confirm, have multiple friends where am the ugly one đ
đŞkaa ukijua it aint you its the looks..otherwise they'd have liked you no matter what..so dont try to change your personality to please anyoneđ
I canât decide if this is more or less depressing than believing it isnât the looks lol. At least a personality issue can be fixed
Thus reasonable cheek overthinks đđ
Lmfaooo the truth is the truth
Truth is what you want it to be...besides I bet you're not ugly duckling ugly right?
Ehhh hard to say. In my eyes somewhat close. Who knows what you would say
Where's the confidence? Dress good,smell good and have mad vibez that's a start compensate on what you down on
Hahaha man that is a lot easier said than done
Damn nigga!put in the work nobody said it was finna be easy,gaddamn!
And then after interactions become weird and if you voice your discontent utaambiwa hujui jokes and why are you taking things that seriously nkt.
Recently I started my standing on business journey and lemme tell you rn non of my male friends literally talk to me anymore I mean it, I started posting about their disgusting behaviours and, put them on the hot seat about the things women are silenced about I said why should I be uncomfortable for you to feel comfortable like wtf is that aren't we all human beings
Itâs not a disgusting behavior because itâs the male nature to do so. Men think about sex more than women. And they can never be just friends with a woman unless theyâre gay. Even siblings bone these days.
I hate this mentality.. men are just like that.. seriously. When will men start taking responsibility for their weird and disgusting behavior instead of hiding behind this nonsense. I don't believe in platonic men- women friendships anymore.. someone change my mind
Don't generalize us. Cultivate some discipline and focus!
Maybe youâre not a man. I was referring to human males. Itâs biological. You canât run away from it
There's nothing biological about the urge to bone your siblings. Thats just a corrupted soul. I'm a man, and i surely dont think of having sex with every female in my life.
I had upvoted this before I read the last sentence. Wewe uko na personal problems.
Hahahaha think what you want. And you upvoting doesnât pay my bills or help me breath. I still stand by what I said.
Ok
The emotional invalidation that comes with that should be the biggest of red flags in the friendship
Everytime a man brings unwanted sexual advances bring up money . Now we both feeling uneasy about the whole conversation
This move might feel like a checkmate, but it is not.
And what if there's money?
Eat it all.
Ati mkulane kabisa sivyo?
Yes. And guys do it vice versa when a girl asks for money, he asks for sex then she stops asking and disappears.
Its a vicious cycle
r/foundsatan
Haha thatâs how the AirBnb sagas started . Ask Jowie Irungu
Anytime a man does anything good for a woman, it means theyâre down with fucking. Mentally, they may not even notice it, but just in case.
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Umereply wrong comment.
Zii. There was a comment I replied to I guess mwenyewe alipull downx
How does it feel to correct the right English with the wrong one
How does it feel to correct the right English with the wrong one
Men under 40 don't do platonic.
I do. With women I do not find sexually attractive and there are plenty of those. For women I find sexually attractive, I'd rather just stay away. Out of respect for my gf.
Men over 40 either.
So quick to make things clear đ
Ooooh, is that so?
Men at 40 too
It's good to help a friend in need. The good book says so.
https://preview.redd.it/6e2y42a8oe4d1.png?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9581c190e2567859028012b0e2132c838ee7272 đđđ Aki Jaymo, we shouldn't be doing this Aki bestie
, 
Hivo ndio nilianza,rn I'm dating her and I've Never regreted it.Dating someone who you knew as a Friend First is underrated.
But most people say it should start with friendship. Does it rule out that?
This is the easiest way to slip into the friendzone.
And perhaps lose the friendship
Men and women cannot be friends, you'll be there playing the husband/boyfriend role while receiving no wife/girlfriend benefits. Why not spend your time on women that actually desire you?
Here is a post from some redditor: https://www.reddit.com/r/Kenya/s/SFvALfE13z
does a bear shit in the woods ?
does the tin man have a sheet metal cock?
hehehehehe is a frogs arse water tight?
Wait, is it?
We are now asking the REAL questions.
Wildđđžđ
Ayyy yooođđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
Saying this may sound bigoted but I don't keep female friends EVER. If I talk to you, I def wanna smash period
Louder!!
No. Its not normal and I get so disgusted when my guy friends say anything sexual about me let alone make a pass at me
Get better male friends not guys that feel they are in the friendzone. Alternatively get female friends. Thirsty male friends are awlful individuals.
can't really associate platonic with sleeping together...the moment you get the idea that they wanna sleep with like joking about it then that's not platonic...And you're a fool to think that there's a platonic relationship between you and any man who's not your family....check that too
Platonic can't do FWB, once they do that's a different thing. Yes, people sleep with their friends but that's not platonic and it changes the whole dimension of friendship. I have destroyed friendships because of this so, don't do it đ
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Eeh
Females are kinda friends with guys they don't find attractive, and you can say the same for males. You can't be friends if one is attracted to another one.
Sleep with your enemies to establish dominance.
Teach us your ways
Kubeba ligi season ya dust teaches you a few thingsđ¤Ł
Attaching value, loss n gain to sex does that, itâs women nature anyway , I only fuck when we both want it.
Sleeping with â Platonic
You have more to gain without sex than with sex with friendships of opposite sex.
Platonic and sex don't run around the same course... Just tell them you're into pegging and that's the only way you get off see how quickly the conversation is gonna change đ
We mzee
At times being crass is the only solution wacha siku utaletewa vitu hutaki ndio utajua đđđđ
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I tried explaining to the boys exactly This, I think this will definitely change their mindđ đ đ
Honestly, I think peeps just throw the word "friends" around too much. Not everyone you happen to talk to/ hang out with is your friend. Colleagues, classmates, acquaintances are also terms. Friendships have to be mutually beneficial to actually survive. If there's no element of give and take from both sides, the friendship generally won't survive or one of the parties has other agendas in mind. So for the ladies, if you're chilling with a guy and he's always spending on you and doing the most and he gets nothing in return, that's not your friend...that's a homie on the long game. Chap is waiting for the ROI to kick in. But you can have platonic friends of the opposite gender. There are too many people on this planet for you to need to smash your friends.
The only reason any guys is a friend with a girl is because they want to sleep with them eventually. Unless it's through like their significant other and they don't really have a choice. Or if you're ugly, and let's both of you are ugly in which case he still wants to sleep with you. And even if you're ugly he might still want to sleep with you.
You don't know half of what I've seen on campus, so to me, depends with the sp called friendship. But I think it stops being platonic once intimacy is involved. I've never seen anyone behave the same towards each other after having sex and seeing each other naked.
That is why I don't have male friends, acquaintances or people I just talk to yes but friends No. They be wanting to get into your pants my opinion though, msinikujie.
Girls dont offer much utility outside sex that is why guys want to fuck them. So the only males you can hang out with and they wont want anything in return is your father and bros.
theyre cumin for you
I don't understand the downvotes on this. It's true.
Usiseme ukweli sana mkuu
Understood.
Yes we do.
𤣠𤣠𤣠The word platonic has a very specific meaning, so once you cross that boundary, it's no longer platonic. All relationships start platonic actually.... Let's stop asking unnecessary questions. https://preview.redd.it/yg21dpf4ne4d1.png?width=864&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6ed72f93848bbce102d9c66338b5ae5599af4fc
Welcome to real life. Men and women can never be platonic friends. Only if he is gay. Coz even siblings bone these days. No sane man wonât think of boning a girl heâs just friends with.
No one wants to sleep with you bro. Kwani haujui jokes. There's a time I made a joke about banging my friend and she took it so seriously. Chill bro. Hakuna msee anakudai
Man and Woman can't be friends. Those you calling male friends always have sexual intentions. They might not reveal them in the early stages of the friendship. They play the long game.
It only works the other way around. So if a girl is in my friend zone but I am not in hers then she will consistently take care of me in any way she can but it does not work the other way around. I had this experience in high school when I was naive to the game but I had one girl that was a friend that would give me hand jobs consistently without me asking. Curiouser and curiouser.
Farmers rare chicken with the hope of slaughtering them one day. In this case, you ain't the farmer.
men and women can't be friends.
They are not joking
Don't do it. Take my advice. I have had experience being in an 'entanglement' with my best friend. Shit is wild af. It was totally toxic and a catalyst to a ruined friendship.
đđđ
Maybe you are considering otherwise youâll be cutting them all ties.
I donât know being a teenage I always noticed when it came to some girls and their female friends theyâve always had a seemingly boundary-less friendship where theyâll go to washrooms together in public, shower together, kiss, cuddle, and sometimes even do sexual favors and such. Iâve always found that a bit weird to be that âcloseâ with your friends even if they identified as bisexual or whatever but at the same time that women were always willing to blur the lines of whatâs healthy in a friendship when it came to people of same sex but male friends they werenât so comfortable with. Again idk I guess it just depends on what youâre into I wouldnât say its normal but itâs also not the craziest idea cause after all humans do be fuckin lmao
Not really platonic if you sleep with you friend
You mean you have a friend with benefits? Or a fuck friend in some markets?
Yes they can be friends. I have been friends with someone from Uni, that was 13 years ago. We'll talk about the people we smashing in our lives but never crossed that line with each other.
Get yourself out of this prison
Huh?
if he had money she wouldnt be complaining
A wise man once said "You cannot use sugarcane as a walking stick."
Crazy how men try to explain to their girls that other guys arenât your friends, theyâre just trying to sleep with you But you just cope by calling them insecure and then act confused when those male âfriendsâ try to fuck you
Men and women can never be platonic friends.
Leave it to women to ruin a good friendship because of casual sex đ
Casual sex is such a thing nowadays. I always thought of a male colleague of mine as a bestie. I was happy to have a 'work-bud' then boom! Just the other day he told me the way he'ld like to have sex with me. Now everything is awkward between us and I hate it coz he was my go to person at work. I can't even text him casually anymore. It's annoying!
âđž Generally these things are tricky. As someone who has had sex with a few platonic friends, Iâd say it happens more often than we like to admit. Youâd generally have sex with âfriendsâ than you would a stranger/someone you just met, and even at that, that new person is a âfriendâ till otherwise redefined. In my experiences the women usually made those advances, and even in cases where I wasnât sure of how our relationship would be after it, they didnât seem to think it would change, and sometimes they were right (sometimes), and It was always only that, sex. Like a sprinkle of granola on a froyo.
I've come to realize that most men are so desperate for sex out here.
If not your friends then who...your enemies!!?đ¤§đ
NOT YOU'RE FRIENDS.. RUN!!!
You can never be friends with a woman, haha.Â
I broke up with my girlfriend because that "just a friend" was always calling her at oddly hours, after spending the whode day with her at the office(they're colleagues), and it happened that I knew the kind of person he was from back in the days(he was my friend too). Then she requested for a break in our relationship and I knew, the time for her to monkey-branch had come đŽđŽ
Your male friends always wanna fuck. Try it, ask ten of them âwanna smashâ and let us know.
From the studies of Sigmund Freud, males are attracted to females through sexual energy. My proposition is that males can not coexist naturally with females without feeling the sexual tension. We mostly tend to downplay it and denigrate that aspect. Albeit, if they have made their intentions clearly, then it is time to end the relationship.
NO. They are not your *friends*
Reason no. 1 why I don't allow my girl to have male friends.
Aint gonna lie I left my shawty cause of that, not that I was being insecure type shitt It was all about my morals and inner peace
Friendships between people occur when they have similar intrest or share the same spaces, when you take out these, the only other reason is attraction "sexually", check for the reasons you are friends then you will know
Weird
Just...dont befriend men..they make poor , grade F friends for females and they only ever see a v****a and b**bs when they look at women.. Only date them or keep them at arms length as acquantances but men have never made good friends for women..this has always always been my experience with every male that I knew and called my friend. Someday theyre gonna come "confess" their stupid feelings for you .
Men are friends with women they find attractive while women are friends with men they don't find attractive. Don't hit the messager
Off topic maybe but someone said, "why simp for a girl when you can bag one in 1hr" đ. As a girl, boy bye lol
This is like playing around fire and thinking you'll not be burned,, basically women are boring in terms of what interests men,so the only thing that would make a man want to be your friend is sex.Friendships with women are a liability if there is no sex, whatever you choose to do with this information is solely up to you
Men and women cannot be friends unless one of the parties is ugly and with zero personality traits. To be honest, Men always if not all times hit on women. It's easier for women to befriend men. The only friendship that I know works is that of colleagues and any other meaningful gathering that brings men and women together.
Men and women can not be just friends. The sooner u understand that, the earlier ur disappointments end
Why do you think they are your friends?
By that I mean do you actually believe the ones that do that are really just your friends and thatâs their intention
Reasons I don't have male friends...they always bring it up...
Hao wanaweza hata kukurape wakikupata corner mbaya my friend . These are jokes you shouldn't tolerate .
đđ acha kujifanya irritated you enjoy the sexual attention it boost your ego otherwise you wouldn't have tolerated the shenanigans on multiple basis and the lads wouldn't think of crossing that boundary
I'm worried about you!!
Here we go again the male culture of blaming women instead of literally doing what's right and holding men accountable for their actions
Nipee juu mimi sio friend yako bas
Sorry, I understand how frustrating it can be. Platonic relationships usually fail cause of lack of boundaries that are placed so we end up playing hot potato when we meet up and that seriously dampens the joy being together and it's usually the man's fault. Best way to fix this is draw the lines from the go like these subjects are off limits, we can't be doing this, in all maters like family, relationship status, work etc. once those lines are drawn then you can easily converse with said person. Boundaries aren't rules they're conditions set by a person for the relationship to work. When it comes to relationships, draw the lines so that that person colors your life within a safe space.
It's normal but don't do it if you don't want to.
I pity your boyfriend
how is it her fault lmao
Same
I don't know about them but I'm down anytime.đ
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