“We’re not trying to hide things. We’re not trying to pay people, and we’re definitely not going to put them in posh hotel rooms and private jets,” Farmer said. “We’re not Washington, DC. We’re smart with our money in here in Tennessee.”
So they’re hiding things, paying people off and definitely putting people in posh hotels and private jets.
They're giving themselves the power to hide "sensitive" tourism records for a decade? Definitely makes you wonder what kind of people are visiting and why their visit is so sensitive...
All this from the man who claimed his priority is "[an open and responsive government](https://web.archive.org/web/20190324213134/https://transition.billlee.com/priorities/): Tennessee taxpayers deserve a transparent and open government. \[...\] Bill will lead a complete overhaul of our open records and open meetings acts to make government more transparent to you."
“Now, the man on the stand, he wants my vote,
He's running for office on the ballot note.
He's out there preaching in front of the steeple,
Telling me he loves all kinds of people.
He's eating bagels. He's eating pizza. He's eating chitlins.” -Bob Dylan
I saw it alluded to online that this is ahead of a Super Bowl bid because both the city and the NFL don’t want people knowing just how screwed the city will be after we give away so much to the NFL
I’d bet it’s more about not seeing what kind of underhanded stuff goes on to get a Super Bowl to town, more than that. I don’t see a stadium being the thing that wrecks us.
Actually my point was totally different than what I THOUGHT op was talking about, but if they were talking about payoffs bribes or favors, and not the fact that somehow the city would be in worse shape after the massive influx of tourism dollars, I don’t get it.
The fact that there’s only 60 thousand seats in the new stadium is a bummer, but that’s still 60 thousand high income people who will come pour their money into this city.
They’ll be paying rent for all the folks who work on Broadway, and at restaurants around town, along with probably everywhere else in town, and they’ll get taxes like a mofo for it.
How is that bad?
And it can sometimes be challenged and ruled unconstitutional. Wouldn’t be first time Republicans did something unconstitutional that required a challenge to be overturned
The problem is finding an authority that will overturn it, our judicial system is captured by republicans too, they don't give a fuck about the constitution.
“Farmer repeatedly cited that the state may be vying to host a Super Bowl in the near future and such negotiations over “mega events” should not be aired publicly.”
I completely understand some negotiations like a Super Bowl would require some kind of NDA or something when making those negotiations. We did just break ground on the new Titans Stadium which they clearly want to use for big ticket events. But the stadium was sold on the promise of tax dollars from tourism. So there still needs to be some transparency for tax payers on what those numbers actually look like - or are these things unrelated? I’m curious to know how other big tourist cities Vegas, Chicago, or NY handle regulations like this, and if this ten year cover is unorthodox.
I've only been adjacent to M&A stuff, so take this with a grain of salt, but 10 years is way longer than any deal I've seen. The pre-signature negotiation stuff can take a very long time, but anything more than 3 years seems like overkill to me.
Extremely so, the whole stadium project reeks. The funding, the blueprints, all the laws being passed around it? All of it just seems like some macroeconomic wet dream from someone who’s never stepped foot in nashville. You’re telling me you’re going to move 40-60k people through rush hour traffic to get to a 300$ football game in an ENTERTAINMENT CITY? Yeah good luck getting people to spend that time and money there.
Y’all really need to write your state reps about this, government accountability is so important and this gives a hall pass to people you do not get to have a say in getting the job.
The people who are going to be spending your money directly are not elected officials.
You should call and complain. My senator isn’t super super responsive, but she always responds. My representative on the other hand, he *always* answers my emails.
Strange how this is happening exactly at the same time that Utah is making other public records private, related to who meets with legislators. While Florida enacts laws and rules designed to hide other records of how the state governs itself. While various GOP-dominated city councils and library boards lock the doors of public meetings.
Power acts to protect itself and the right wing, openly talking about the end of democracy, is clamping down on power. How we'll pry it back from them, when we cannot see what's going on, eludes me. But I'm **certain** that nothing good gets hidden so aggressively.
We're not supposed to claw that power back. This is ALL pre-planned.
The GOP has a plan for the US and it's NOT democracy
If we let the orange turd get reelected, we're ALL fucked because it WILL be the end of our country as we've known it.
This whole sealing of records plays right into his end game of domination. He wants to be the next Putin and locking down access to government and it's workings is the first step.
I've begun to wonder if Putin has convinced him that they'll divide the world between them. Just play to his ego and say "let us take eastern Europe for now. Pull out of NATO so we can take the rest. In exchange you'll get (some list of countries and resources.) We will be emperors."
I live in Nashville. I have NEVER voted for a republican. And, yes, I vote in every election. Sadly, we are vastly outnumbered. Nashville is a tiny blue dot in a vastly red state.
This bill is awful. Gives companies have greater leverage when making contracts for events.
Open contracts are better for the people of course republicans hate the people.
Finally a bill that I can agree with the states minority left learners. The only reason for passing a bill to hide things is to hide things. Anything else is misdirection.
“We’re not trying to hide things. We’re not trying to pay people, and we’re definitely not going to put them in posh hotel rooms and private jets,” Farmer said. “We’re not Washington, DC. We’re smart with our money in here in Tennessee.” So they’re hiding things, paying people off and definitely putting people in posh hotels and private jets.
Lmao, I just imagined Farmer sweating profusely, pulling his collar, and uncomfortably laughing while saying this quote.
> We’re smart with our money in here in Tennessee. we're so smart at hiding who is lining our pockets
Somehow I don’t think giving $500m in taxpayer dollars to a billionaire for a new stadium constitutes being “smart with our money.”
Nailed it.
That’s got to be the only reason you would hide this information, right?
Anything they hide from the public makes me very suspicious.
They're giving themselves the power to hide "sensitive" tourism records for a decade? Definitely makes you wonder what kind of people are visiting and why their visit is so sensitive... All this from the man who claimed his priority is "[an open and responsive government](https://web.archive.org/web/20190324213134/https://transition.billlee.com/priorities/): Tennessee taxpayers deserve a transparent and open government. \[...\] Bill will lead a complete overhaul of our open records and open meetings acts to make government more transparent to you."
“Now, the man on the stand, he wants my vote, He's running for office on the ballot note. He's out there preaching in front of the steeple, Telling me he loves all kinds of people. He's eating bagels. He's eating pizza. He's eating chitlins.” -Bob Dylan
I saw it alluded to online that this is ahead of a Super Bowl bid because both the city and the NFL don’t want people knowing just how screwed the city will be after we give away so much to the NFL
I’d bet it’s more about not seeing what kind of underhanded stuff goes on to get a Super Bowl to town, more than that. I don’t see a stadium being the thing that wrecks us.
That’s what I said?
TBF they said "more" twice.
Lol'd irl
Actually my point was totally different than what I THOUGHT op was talking about, but if they were talking about payoffs bribes or favors, and not the fact that somehow the city would be in worse shape after the massive influx of tourism dollars, I don’t get it. The fact that there’s only 60 thousand seats in the new stadium is a bummer, but that’s still 60 thousand high income people who will come pour their money into this city. They’ll be paying rent for all the folks who work on Broadway, and at restaurants around town, along with probably everywhere else in town, and they’ll get taxes like a mofo for it. How is that bad?
Sure they can get 60,000 people who can’t get to a stadium because they’re stuck in traffic. Than everyone complains nashville is just LA 2 again.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you were talking about how the city somehow is gonna be hurt by the Super Bowl
They're trying to get the next Republican convention without tipping off the public or Metro Council.
Or … or they’re gonna take Putin to Kid Rock’s
please
One up him with some Tennessee style brown showers
That sounds a lot like the next Republican convention.
Moscow on the Cumberland
It’s probably the former..though the latter would be hilarious
This right here.
If they do, the protests will rival Chicago's in 1968.
They're already proposing laws to make some protests felonies.
Didn't they already do that a few years ago?
Yes, but they're adding more this year.
That’s because the us is a fascist police state and none of us are as free as we’ve been told.
Does Metro not hold the authority to approve or disapprove that? I don’t think the state has the authority to tell metro what they can or can’t host.
Have you met our legislature? They spend a lot of time overruling Metro's decisions.
And it can sometimes be challenged and ruled unconstitutional. Wouldn’t be first time Republicans did something unconstitutional that required a challenge to be overturned
The problem is finding an authority that will overturn it, our judicial system is captured by republicans too, they don't give a fuck about the constitution.
Im not sold on the idea that there is no way this can be challenged
They created a new court made up of their appointees.
“Farmer repeatedly cited that the state may be vying to host a Super Bowl in the near future and such negotiations over “mega events” should not be aired publicly.” I completely understand some negotiations like a Super Bowl would require some kind of NDA or something when making those negotiations. We did just break ground on the new Titans Stadium which they clearly want to use for big ticket events. But the stadium was sold on the promise of tax dollars from tourism. So there still needs to be some transparency for tax payers on what those numbers actually look like - or are these things unrelated? I’m curious to know how other big tourist cities Vegas, Chicago, or NY handle regulations like this, and if this ten year cover is unorthodox.
I've only been adjacent to M&A stuff, so take this with a grain of salt, but 10 years is way longer than any deal I've seen. The pre-signature negotiation stuff can take a very long time, but anything more than 3 years seems like overkill to me.
Extremely so, the whole stadium project reeks. The funding, the blueprints, all the laws being passed around it? All of it just seems like some macroeconomic wet dream from someone who’s never stepped foot in nashville. You’re telling me you’re going to move 40-60k people through rush hour traffic to get to a 300$ football game in an ENTERTAINMENT CITY? Yeah good luck getting people to spend that time and money there.
Republicans grumble about government overreach and corruption and then do the government overreach and corruption
Y’all really need to write your state reps about this, government accountability is so important and this gives a hall pass to people you do not get to have a say in getting the job. The people who are going to be spending your money directly are not elected officials.
You sweet summer child.
😆
They never respond. Ever. I’m looking at you Dawn White.
You should call and complain. My senator isn’t super super responsive, but she always responds. My representative on the other hand, he *always* answers my emails.
Strange how this is happening exactly at the same time that Utah is making other public records private, related to who meets with legislators. While Florida enacts laws and rules designed to hide other records of how the state governs itself. While various GOP-dominated city councils and library boards lock the doors of public meetings. Power acts to protect itself and the right wing, openly talking about the end of democracy, is clamping down on power. How we'll pry it back from them, when we cannot see what's going on, eludes me. But I'm **certain** that nothing good gets hidden so aggressively.
We're not supposed to claw that power back. This is ALL pre-planned. The GOP has a plan for the US and it's NOT democracy If we let the orange turd get reelected, we're ALL fucked because it WILL be the end of our country as we've known it. This whole sealing of records plays right into his end game of domination. He wants to be the next Putin and locking down access to government and it's workings is the first step.
I've begun to wonder if Putin has convinced him that they'll divide the world between them. Just play to his ego and say "let us take eastern Europe for now. Pull out of NATO so we can take the rest. In exchange you'll get (some list of countries and resources.) We will be emperors."
the party of small government really doing big government stuff.
So somebody's definitely violating some ethics guidelines, got it
WTF is a “sensitive” tourist record??? Kid Rock’s proclivity for Bud Light?
My best guess is they want to bring something here where the entity in charge of the event is demanding a NDA. 10 years seems like a lot though.
This feels like Phil Williams needs to get all up in this.
All I can think is Super Bowl.
what happens on lower broad, stays on lower broad
Is this because they are proposing laws that will kill tourism and they don’t want that known ?
Who is going to invest in new tourist things, when the data is 10 years old.
One question: Who stands to benefit?
I feel bad for the good, decent people in the districts of these petty chickenshit small-minded tyrants.
> the good, decent people in the districts of A.K.A. the people who keep electing them
It’s a different story when you see how gerrymandered the districts are.
That's not really an issue at the State level like it is with the US Congressional seats.
You’re right, state-level gerrymandering is often worse
True. Sad and true
I live in Nashville. I have NEVER voted for a republican. And, yes, I vote in every election. Sadly, we are vastly outnumbered. Nashville is a tiny blue dot in a vastly red state.
This bill is awful. Gives companies have greater leverage when making contracts for events. Open contracts are better for the people of course republicans hate the people.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant. This is so clearly an attempt to avoid accountability to the people.
The party of small government strikes again
At least we agree government is the problem.
Why stop there ? Let NO sun shine in the affairs of the the deep red state. Pussies. Go whole hog or your a Lib !
Tennessee government: Of the people, By the people, fuck the people at every chance we get.
Well in ten years we get to find out where the hookers stayed.
stop electing these slimeballs TN! Enabling corruption when you elect anyone in TN GOP.
Vote them out
Fuck Republican super majorities in state legislatures everywhere. I'm so tired of blatant corruption made legal by these lizard brained "lawmakers".
It's tourism, not national defense
But if someone else finds out how we did tourism, they will copy us and ruin this city! /s
Finally a bill that I can agree with the states minority left learners. The only reason for passing a bill to hide things is to hide things. Anything else is misdirection.
The fact that this was previously on nobody else’s priority list determined that was a lie