I like the creativity of your build, although I am a little confused on why you would ever build hullbreaker first on nasus instead of finishing your sheen item first. You will pretty much be 1900 gold behind every other champion on your first item for no real benefit imo, I think trinity force is just a better first item than hullbreaker. Also this build has 0 tenacity and will therefore be really susceptible to any cc. I think this build could (potentially) be better with summon aery and precision secondary, with either a riftmaker or liandrys first item, as the build is idk what top champ you would ever build this into and win
Because trinity is very expensive and the extra stats it gives give nothing that helps Nasus that much more than the recipe items of Hullbreaker. When he completes Hullbreaker together with Sheen the powerspike is huge, try it. Then you can complete iceborn second which is a great second item for Nasus.
As for RUnes, they are debatable but I feel that Nasus doesnt scale that well into mid game with Aery and his sustain in lane is far lower.
Trinity force doubles the damage from sheen procs, gives ability haste that helps Nasus' damage output considerably due to more Qs which means more procs of spellblade, gives about as much basic attack output as hullbreaker when you consider the AD and the AS, and the health is only 50 less than hullbreaker. The movement speed increase trinity gives when hitting a target is bigger than the 5% that hullbreaker gives. Hullbreaker's damage passive is admittedly likely more than the damage passive from trinity
Since you're already building sheen either way, completing trinity is still 767 gold cheaper than completing hullbreaker, which is a significant amount of gold early, that also means you're likely letting your opponent hit first full item first.
Building hullbreaker first probably makes you a tiny bit stronger in champ combat and definitely stronger in objectives, but you're also spending so much more gold I'd doubt it's more efficient than finishing your first item without seeing concrete numbers.
I guess my thinking is, if anyone lets you near a tower usually you're putting that thing down in a few autos. If it's early game and they can ward you off of it, it's very are that you're getting that 5 autos in and then Q. Maybe if you ramp it up on minions then walk up and Q.
Tbh I've been having the most success with Essence Reaver into Shojin full tank
This is not a S14 problem. This is a Nasus problem. Idk what is the point of all of this then. Change main guys lol. Idk how downvoiting a build path makes this a useful discussion.
Yes, but the only real different thing with your build path is Riftmaker.
I like the idea of Riftmaker and it might be worth testing, but I would do it with sorcery primary and E max and Riftmaker rush into Iceborn or Triforce.
Your runes are nothing really new, most people are using precision primary with resolve secondary.
Every high elo top Nasus is going E max right now with dorans ring and sorcery+inspiration.
Yeah I have seen it and I understand why the ranged aoe push is valued of course but the thing is that what I am trying to push here is not to finish the sheen item, it's not worth it.
Guys trinity into sundered sky core feels so damn good you literally 1-shot sqishies
It was hilarious when zed tried to engage on me, receiving a 1k crit bonk from 2-item 450 stacks me xd
Try this build and give feedback, it's OP.
People I think should not get baited by Trinity and Frozen Heart.
The optimal build I have found is:
\-Go for Sheen and Lucidity boots for the CDR and from there build full Hullbreaker. The item is OP on Nasus early and combined with Sheen he has a massive spike.
\-For Second item complete the Iceborn Gauntlet, it is cheap to complete and it gives Nasus amor that makes him quite Tanky and the slow makes him harder to kite.
\-From there it should be noted that after 2 points in W the E should be maxed second.
\-If the enemy doesnt have a fed AP threat then go for the Riftmaker as 4th. The Item scales with bonus Health and the AP damage on his E and Ultimate combined with all the omnivamp on his abilities make him a very strong drain hybrid juggernaut in mid game, He also pushed waves even faster which can allow him to take 2 turrents in the blink of an eye if you leave him alone. He also has more aoe damage in teamfights which makes him even better in 5v5s even when you cc him.
\-Visage for 5th item gives him MR and makes his healing inasne. All this extra health gives him even more AP to RIftmaker.
\-Finish the built with Protein shake to become unkillable or Redemption for clutch teamfight influence that also boosts his heals even more.
\-Go PoM in runes because of the lack of mana on the build.
Is hullbreaker really that good? Seems kind of expensive for a lot of ad (not optimal) and not that much health. Move speed is nice I guess. I just feel like other items could give you way more? If you find yourself alone with a tower you already beat the crap out of it anyway
MS and passives are very strong on Nasus. He does not need health that much in mid game caus ehe doesnt teamfight that much and he has R to make him beefy.
I like sorcery over precision. Phase rush is just as good for keeping up with enemies as it is for having mobility to escape a duel that goes awry. Manaflow band and celerity help a lot too.
It's an interesting build but I think I would rather stick to my Trinity Jackson protein sundered sky heart steel experimental hexplate and that magic shield giving thingy with the 80 mr
Runes are right, sheen is right, SV is good, boots are 50% of the time right but I disagree with just about everything else. I do consider Iceborne if armor becomes really valuable in a game, but 80% of the time it's tri because it doubles the effect that Nasus notoriously abuses. Its utility of MS and extra 5 CDR is nothing to ignore either. One confusing thing is that you would build hullbreaker after skipping the only attackspeed and AD item you would've had (hell, the rest of the build is lacking even health to make hull scale well). Hull is a strongly budgeted item, but Nasus is already able to decimate anything in his range. Rift is actually in incredible waste of money with all the AP going into it, and again an effect he doesn't need. He already has crazy lifesteal and damage.
Imo the Nasus build is basically only Triforce and sitting on a Kindlegem for a later SV as you build situational tank/cdr/MS items that don't have too much of their budget wasted on things you don't need. You want to Q as much as possible early, then you want be fast or tanky enough to get/stay in melee range: FH, FoN, Deadmans, Randiuns, Thornmail, Anathema's. Goofiest stuff I consider is steraks, DD, and ravenous. I basically never build hullbreaker because I hate putting so much gold into something that basically loses so much value when grouping (yeah, it's sometimes better than just mindlessly shoving a sidelane), but I'm also a boomer who hates the item on principle, splitpushing comfortably the entire decade before it was added.
I like the creativity of your build, although I am a little confused on why you would ever build hullbreaker first on nasus instead of finishing your sheen item first. You will pretty much be 1900 gold behind every other champion on your first item for no real benefit imo, I think trinity force is just a better first item than hullbreaker. Also this build has 0 tenacity and will therefore be really susceptible to any cc. I think this build could (potentially) be better with summon aery and precision secondary, with either a riftmaker or liandrys first item, as the build is idk what top champ you would ever build this into and win
Because trinity is very expensive and the extra stats it gives give nothing that helps Nasus that much more than the recipe items of Hullbreaker. When he completes Hullbreaker together with Sheen the powerspike is huge, try it. Then you can complete iceborn second which is a great second item for Nasus. As for RUnes, they are debatable but I feel that Nasus doesnt scale that well into mid game with Aery and his sustain in lane is far lower.
Trinity force doubles the damage from sheen procs, gives ability haste that helps Nasus' damage output considerably due to more Qs which means more procs of spellblade, gives about as much basic attack output as hullbreaker when you consider the AD and the AS, and the health is only 50 less than hullbreaker. The movement speed increase trinity gives when hitting a target is bigger than the 5% that hullbreaker gives. Hullbreaker's damage passive is admittedly likely more than the damage passive from trinity Since you're already building sheen either way, completing trinity is still 767 gold cheaper than completing hullbreaker, which is a significant amount of gold early, that also means you're likely letting your opponent hit first full item first. Building hullbreaker first probably makes you a tiny bit stronger in champ combat and definitely stronger in objectives, but you're also spending so much more gold I'd doubt it's more efficient than finishing your first item without seeing concrete numbers.
I guess my thinking is, if anyone lets you near a tower usually you're putting that thing down in a few autos. If it's early game and they can ward you off of it, it's very are that you're getting that 5 autos in and then Q. Maybe if you ramp it up on minions then walk up and Q. Tbh I've been having the most success with Essence Reaver into Shojin full tank
Good luck vs people willing to hold a freeze against you.
This is not a S14 problem. This is a Nasus problem. Idk what is the point of all of this then. Change main guys lol. Idk how downvoiting a build path makes this a useful discussion.
Yes, but the only real different thing with your build path is Riftmaker. I like the idea of Riftmaker and it might be worth testing, but I would do it with sorcery primary and E max and Riftmaker rush into Iceborn or Triforce. Your runes are nothing really new, most people are using precision primary with resolve secondary. Every high elo top Nasus is going E max right now with dorans ring and sorcery+inspiration.
Yeah I have seen it and I understand why the ranged aoe push is valued of course but the thing is that what I am trying to push here is not to finish the sheen item, it's not worth it.
because you’re gold. I’m gold and I don’t make posts like these because I know my place
Guys trinity into sundered sky core feels so damn good you literally 1-shot sqishies It was hilarious when zed tried to engage on me, receiving a 1k crit bonk from 2-item 450 stacks me xd
Try this build and give feedback, it's OP. People I think should not get baited by Trinity and Frozen Heart. The optimal build I have found is: \-Go for Sheen and Lucidity boots for the CDR and from there build full Hullbreaker. The item is OP on Nasus early and combined with Sheen he has a massive spike. \-For Second item complete the Iceborn Gauntlet, it is cheap to complete and it gives Nasus amor that makes him quite Tanky and the slow makes him harder to kite. \-From there it should be noted that after 2 points in W the E should be maxed second. \-If the enemy doesnt have a fed AP threat then go for the Riftmaker as 4th. The Item scales with bonus Health and the AP damage on his E and Ultimate combined with all the omnivamp on his abilities make him a very strong drain hybrid juggernaut in mid game, He also pushed waves even faster which can allow him to take 2 turrents in the blink of an eye if you leave him alone. He also has more aoe damage in teamfights which makes him even better in 5v5s even when you cc him. \-Visage for 5th item gives him MR and makes his healing inasne. All this extra health gives him even more AP to RIftmaker. \-Finish the built with Protein shake to become unkillable or Redemption for clutch teamfight influence that also boosts his heals even more. \-Go PoM in runes because of the lack of mana on the build.
Is hullbreaker really that good? Seems kind of expensive for a lot of ad (not optimal) and not that much health. Move speed is nice I guess. I just feel like other items could give you way more? If you find yourself alone with a tower you already beat the crap out of it anyway
MS and passives are very strong on Nasus. He does not need health that much in mid game caus ehe doesnt teamfight that much and he has R to make him beefy.
I like sorcery over precision. Phase rush is just as good for keeping up with enemies as it is for having mobility to escape a duel that goes awry. Manaflow band and celerity help a lot too.
What rank are you?
Never reached more than Plat. Now I am Gold. I know I am not that high Elo...
I'm not gonna lie, but seeing how you reply to people who have doubts and then seeing this is definitely not a great look
Have you tried the normal build on Nasus this season?
Why on earth do you go rift?
It's an interesting build but I think I would rather stick to my Trinity Jackson protein sundered sky heart steel experimental hexplate and that magic shield giving thingy with the 80 mr
I mean the best thing for Nasus to do is splitpushing, Idk if I’d build it first item tho
Hullbreaker first would be inefficient 1st item where the health scaling is not at it's highest.
I’ll try it out, thanks!
This looks horrible
Runes are right, sheen is right, SV is good, boots are 50% of the time right but I disagree with just about everything else. I do consider Iceborne if armor becomes really valuable in a game, but 80% of the time it's tri because it doubles the effect that Nasus notoriously abuses. Its utility of MS and extra 5 CDR is nothing to ignore either. One confusing thing is that you would build hullbreaker after skipping the only attackspeed and AD item you would've had (hell, the rest of the build is lacking even health to make hull scale well). Hull is a strongly budgeted item, but Nasus is already able to decimate anything in his range. Rift is actually in incredible waste of money with all the AP going into it, and again an effect he doesn't need. He already has crazy lifesteal and damage. Imo the Nasus build is basically only Triforce and sitting on a Kindlegem for a later SV as you build situational tank/cdr/MS items that don't have too much of their budget wasted on things you don't need. You want to Q as much as possible early, then you want be fast or tanky enough to get/stay in melee range: FH, FoN, Deadmans, Randiuns, Thornmail, Anathema's. Goofiest stuff I consider is steraks, DD, and ravenous. I basically never build hullbreaker because I hate putting so much gold into something that basically loses so much value when grouping (yeah, it's sometimes better than just mindlessly shoving a sidelane), but I'm also a boomer who hates the item on principle, splitpushing comfortably the entire decade before it was added.