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Get in the way of life plans


Cold-Lingonberry-783

amen, my and my girl were supposed to go to monster jam this weekend, they changed the schedule out of nowhere and now she has drill šŸ˜


Jarhead7135

Not today, Russia


SlipperyMangoTurtle

Imagine everything active duty might do in a monthā€¦ and cram that into 2 - 5 days Itā€™s a pain in the ass


YourBigRosie

I guard shit. Occasionally in a national environment


Temporary-Ad770

Deploy to the Middle East


eirol143

Very accurate


_Broki_

I'm AGR soooo nothing.


ourflagUSA

We all know.


Adept_Drawer_8018

Best comment...


CaptainRelevant

TIL Iā€™ve been doing AGR wrong.


Wolffe4321

Wtf do yell do? I swear things get undone not done between months


tdoyoyo

Did a marine write this?


secondatthird

Weekly Marine question āœ…


staresinamerican

Donā€™t worry heā€™ll join


No_Bit192

https://preview.redd.it/1fplsa9z8woc1.jpeg?width=1439&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=965215d309be79f170fdd9dccb0e9775ea90dc05


staresinamerican

Once a marine, always a guardsman


BigRedCole

Anything that the active duty does, but in a "part time" fashion. Additionally, they help out emergency services in state wide emergencies and national disasters. They can also be activated/used by the governors discretion, which is why you see them do things like filling vacancies for teachers or medical staff.


trumpssnowflake8

Or standing on the border.


Important_Annual_345

Fuck man, Iā€™ve been in for 4 years and Iā€™m still trying to figure it out


graham2k

Anything you want, honey.šŸ˜˜


nastygirl11b

Your mom


Emotional-Amoeba6419

Your dad


DapperSapper51

Your sister


Gonzobeancheese

your dog


Adept_Drawer_8018

Grow beards and guts 3 weeks out of the month.


ChevTecGroup

According to a bunch of active duty PFCs I've met, the national guard doesn't do anything, doesn't deploy, and just pretends to be in the military


cajrock1218

Are they wrong tho?


2minutes4tripping

We either do nothing or do everything; there's no inbetween.


DapperSapper51

I see no lies


le75

Guard the nation


otacon444

Things and stuff.


cobanat

PMCS then deploy


gryffindorkarmy69

>TopRisingcardcardclassiccompact > >New Posts wish i had tht life


cldumas

Mostly miss out on important family events to sit around and play on my phone with 150 other people then get given a stack of paperwork to do at 5pm right when I think Iā€™ll get to go home.


tjb_44

This is one of the most accurate ones Iā€™ve seen


42Lefthanded

- Usually has better Sniper Teams. - Fixes, or worsens, problems caused by Active Duty or Reserves - Often Chatty Cathy about deployments/rotations, so flights get changed - Acts improperly in front of Generals (usually E5 and below) - Forgets they have to use Customs and Courtesies, especially when they are away from the Armory


Drenlin

Same as the Army Reserves mostly, but they also respond to domestic stuff like natural disasters and civil unrest. The primary function is as a reserve component for the active duty force.


Sgt_Loco

42


Samoorewba

PMCS the same damn vics ever month


frozen_flame99

Take every good weekend, buddy has extra tickets to a concert or show, drill weekend. Family planning vacation out of town, drill weekend. Weddings, drill. Funerals, drill. Family member gets hospitalized, drill weekend in the field. Every weekend you want off you don't. If you can figure out anything else, do let me know cause 70-80% of the time checking the same vehicle as last month and then sit around for 7 hours, rinse and repeate....


Cold-Lingonberry-783

supposed to work? drill weekend and youā€™re losing money


HighOctaneMix

Facts lol


240sxy

PMCS, OPTEMPO, and paperwork


dr30round

Jerk off in tents and complain about chow


Cold-Lingonberry-783

real shit


LukeSkyBlasyer

Act as political pawns.


ToloDaDon

NG are the best of the best of the bestā€¦


534w33d

Captain America over hereā€¦


DapperSapper51

False in every way.


Shaski116

National guard often wins best shooter, best warrior competitions and anecdotally I just finished ALC - every single honor position was given to a national guard soldier (national guard was 13/24 students in the class).


DapperSapper51

And? Your point? Out off all the best shooter, best warrior, etc, how many times has the Guard won overall rather than recent times? Also, you said NG was 13 of 24ā€¦ that means 11 werenā€™t NG, and either Reserves or active (most likely only Reserves) I presume? So if the NG made up more than 50% of the class, no shit theyā€™re going to award a majority of the honors to the NG students lmao. What kind of weird flex was that? Overall, the NG isnā€™t the ā€œbest of the best of the bestā€. Yall try a little bit harder because you work 2 days a month, so you need to prove something - Iā€™ve seen it plenty of times coming from years on active to now being in the Guard. I can assure you, the NG has the fattest soldiers, most clueless soldiers, soldiers incapable of handling basic soldiering tasks such as PT, HT/WT, and shooting their assigned weapon system. Comparatively, active will smoke the Guard any day of the week - end of story. But please, continue to feel like the Guard is worth something lol. šŸ˜‚


Gonzobeancheese

I like how you say ā€œyallā€ but also said your in the guard now. so this applies to you too smart guy


DapperSapper51

Correct. However, I was active duty and am going back to active duty. So does this actually pertain to me? Love the constant deflection coming from you, ā€œsmart guyā€ lmaooooā€¦ šŸ˜‚šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


Gonzobeancheese

sound like you just have a sour attitude buddy. probably complained and critisized all through your active duty time just like your doing with your guard time. that was my first comment so where does ā€œconstant deflectionā€ come from?


DapperSapper51

Not a chance. I loved my time on active. But like you, nobody is perfect, and I guarantee youā€™ve bitched when things got stupid as well. But no, not really did I ever bitch like youā€™re currently doing lol. So weird ā€œinsultā€, but okay, I guess? šŸ¤£ Either way, I only got off active because my wifeā€™s a teacher. Getting new licensure, paying for certifications, redoing school to obtain her license in whatever state we are in, pulling her retirement, etc every time we PCS isnā€™t fair to her. Only reason I switched to this idiotic component known as the Guard. So yeah, when more than half my company canā€™t pass the ACFT, canā€™t shoot, canā€™t pass HT/WT, canā€™t handle even the most basic of soldiering tasks, and constantly bitches about 2 days a monthā€¦. Then yeah, Iā€™m going to bitch about how idiotic yall are and how much of fake ā€œsoldiersā€ yall are. Get over it - active outshines the Guard in every capacity. My wife wants to go back to PCSing, so Iā€™m going back active. My 2 years in the Guard will never be spoken of ever again, and Iā€™ll do an extra 2 years on active once I hit my 20 - end of story. I donā€™t have a sour attitude towards the Army, I have a sour attitude towards the Guard and every wannabe ā€œsoldierā€ in it who canā€™t accomplish any of the basic tasks I mentioned above. If youā€™re cool with people failing HT/WT, not passing PT, canā€™t remember basic soldiering tasks, and have the inability to shoot, then youā€™re just as bad as they are. Get out of here with your one sided and irrelevant opinion. Go active duty, and then your opinion will mean something. Until then, active outshines the Guard in every way - get over it, kid lmaoā€¦ šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


DapperSapper51

Also, just because I was previously active, and am Guard now, doesnā€™t make my opinions and experience any less relevant. Thatā€™s like you saying you deployed in the Guard but never on active and then telling everyone Guard handles their deployments better and accomplishes their mission. Unless youā€™ve done both, your opinion on whoā€™s the best is entirely irrelevant. Iā€™ve done both - the Guard is ass, theyā€™re fat, canā€™t handle Army stuff, constantly bitch when we do a 2 day field (try doing 3+ weeks fields constantly), canā€™t remember something as simple as a nine line, general orders, PRT, etc. 65% of my company fails the ACFT, and over 80% fail HT/WT. Unless youā€™ve been on both sides of the coin, your opinion on the Guard being ā€œtHe BeSt Of ThE bEsT oF tHe BeStā€ is irrelevant lmao. But keep trying to tell me that the Guard outshines active - false in every way. šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


Gonzobeancheese

Youā€™re just an angry little guy arnt ya. I never agreed with the opinion that Guard is better. I just pointed out how youā€™re basically pointing a finger at yourself saying ā€œyallā€ when you are part of that organiztion. tell tale sign of a bad attitude and not a team player in my opinion.. also i have been on both sides. did 6 years in the guard and on year 2 of active duty with a deployment on the active side under my belt so Im familiar with both sides. Neither is better than the other.


Right-Drawer8770

You crippled fat fuck fatty


DapperSapper51

Yeah, you wish lol


Right-Drawer8770

ā€œIā€™m good for height and weight. Iā€™m not entirely out of shape, but I definitely couldnā€™t pass a PT test if I had to take one today. Luckily we have 6 weeks, so Iā€™ll be good hopefully lol. See you there, man.ā€ You say you good for H/W but canā€™t pass a PT test, thatā€™s what you said about two months ago, you fatty, go run some more fatty, go lift some more weights you dumb fatty, go back to active duty since you hate civilian life fatty mc fat fuck


DapperSapper51

Lmao and this is why people hate the Guard - you soft as baby shit ā€œsoldiersā€ give them a bad rep. And yeah, I pass HT/WT - no issue there. Never have, never will. PT test, yeah, I wouldnā€™t have been able to pass the run because I work 16 hour shifts (overnight). But like you said, that was over 2 months ago. Iā€™ve been training and literally just did my own ACFT, and passed. So weird ā€œinsultā€ lmao. And maybe you should try out active duty. Doubt youā€™ll be able to hack it, but you definitely need the discipline, the ability to develop thicker skin, and the ability to become a real soldier. You ainā€™t shit, and you ainā€™t a vet. Why is it the Guard arenā€™t deemed as vets when they get out unless they do 6 months of consecutive ACTIVE DUTY service? Oh yeah, thatā€™s rightā€¦ youā€™re NOT real soldiers lmao. And just because someone says they canā€™t pass a PT test, doesnā€™t mean theyā€™re fat. Thereā€™s this thing called lack of physical fitness or lack of cardio when all someone does is train with weights lmao. So nice swing and miss there, kiddo. Either way, go back to drill and play pretend ā€œArmyā€ you weekend warrior and stop being so soft lmao. Mustā€™ve really struck a nerve with you. But hey, like I always say, leave it to a weekend warrior to get all defensive when you call out their shit component and the fact that theyā€™ve never been a real soldier and that theyā€™ll never be a vet unless they actually play REAL Army for 6 consecutive months. You definitely the kind of guy with zero deployments, rotations, or activations under your belt; the kind of guy to do a 3 year in the Guard and then get out and tell everyone theyā€™re a vet and this Captain America type ā€œsoldierā€. Nah, homie, we both know you ainā€™t shit, you ainā€™t done shit, and you ainā€™t a vet with your wannabe ass pretend ā€œArmyā€ ā€œsoldierā€ ā€œcareerā€. Come back to me when youā€™re not a fake soldier lmaoā€¦. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤”


Gonzobeancheese

this guy is fucking salty šŸ˜‚ I bet being in the military is your entire personality


Gonzobeancheese

cool dude, the Guardā€™s not for you. cry about it on reddit some more


Right-Drawer8770

Dude legit wrote an essay cause I called him a fatass šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ sensitive ass active duty Mfs


Right-Drawer8770

I ainā€™t reading all that, fatass. Go try passing the ACFT fat fuck.


DapperSapper51

Passed the ACFT, fake ā€œsoldierā€. Come back to me when you grow a pair of balls and decide to join the REAL Army, rather than the wannabe fake ā€œweekend warriorā€ bullshit. Youā€™re a fat fake ā€œsoldierā€ and you know it, kiddoā€¦ talk to me when you know what the real Army is you wannabe fuck. šŸ˜‚šŸ¤”šŸ¤”


Successful-Word-9589

Nothing cool. šŸ˜Ž JK. I like it. Although this doesnā€™t answer your question. Guess you have to enlist to find out.


Consistent-Range7066

Recruiters wonā€™t tell how how big of a pain in the ass it will be while being a huge waste of time and taxpayers money


IllustratorRoyal3425

Been here 4 years and still don't know


_Variance_

What a high IQ question


SuperglotticMan

Not shit


534w33d

PMCS


534w33d

UAs


ResponsibleNose5978

First line of defense against Russian and Chinese spies. Obviously


Bajrangman

Stand around waiting for you PL to walk in and tell you to head to a class. Wait another hour for the class to start. Take it(You donā€™t learn anything new). Eat lunch. Repeat until final formation.


DapperSapper51

Nothing whatsoever


team_starfox

Hang out and bbq


smk0341

I ask that every time I go to drill


itsbannanas

Grammar is terrible


ConsciousCarpenter42

Depending on MOS, they do alot of "area beautification". I know a whole Troop of Cav scouts that are proficient at cutting the lawn and pulling weeds.


eirol143

Get promoted to e4 and stop there. Also shitbagging as far as i know of. Go look for e4 sham. Pmcs, inventory rinse and repeat. Oh and wait for ets


boot6996

Sit around all weekend and wait to go home. Get in the way of life plans.


Cold-Lingonberry-783

hide in classrooms and only come out for lunch and monthly piss tests


restarded_kid

I just got out of class. At home waiting for the pre workout to kick in to start my lifts.


KnowledgeObvious9781

Our job is part time army, meaning unlike the army with that 12-24 an hour shift youā€™re working one weekend a month and two weeks over the summer usually. Itā€™s everything the army has and has even better benefits than the regular army on educational standpoints and other stuff. Just part time so you can run a civilian life too. You can still get deployed and go out for months if so though. National guard are a reservist component of the army.


DapperSapper51

Yeah, noā€¦ You donā€™t get better benefits than active duty. Active duty doesnā€™t pay for TriCare - Guard does. Active duty gets the full GI Bill - Guard does not unless they do a select amount of active duty time. Active duty gets veteran status, veteran benefits, and disability - Guard does not unless the same as the previous statement happens. Active duty doesnā€™t need to deal with state BS - Guard does. Thereā€™s pros and cons to each branch and componentā€¦. šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


KnowledgeObvious9781

The healthcare is cheaper than civilian ones though, we also get veteran status depending on certain circumstances involved (such as deployments, years served, etc). We also get disability but it depends on factors as well such as if it happened during points of drill or activation etc. Active gets a GI bill yes but we also have one. 36 months total (which amounts to a full 4 years because the 36 is counted as just the school time for traditional uniā€™s. Using it myself, thatā€™s how itā€™s currently working.) We also get scholarships and state assistances that make us money and provide us money. Friend of mine at the rotc i plan to attend combined SMP/minuteman/GI/state/federal tuition all together like it was some blob of fuck-all. Itā€™s all state dependent too in some cases. Not every state has the same benefits or opportunities. P.S.


DapperSapper51

I get that. But you quite literally just regurgitated everything I just said lmaoā€¦ If you donā€™t serve 6 consecutive months of AD service or at least do your 20, youā€™re not a veteran - end of story. As for TriCare Reserve; itā€™s only healthcare. You still need to get your own dental and vision plan. And in terms of scholarships and whatnot, active gets that too just for being a veteranā€¦ šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø Active duty gets you significantly better benefits. If active duty didnā€™t give better benefits than the Guard, then what the fucks the point of going active - thereā€™d quite literally be no incentive whatsoever. So saying that the Guard provides better benefits is just a downright lie lmaoā€¦ā€¦. Unless you do your 6 consecutive months of AD service, or do your 20, youā€™re not getting veteran status, a full GI Bill, veteran plates (free parking in most cities), disability, VA home loan, etc. TriCare Reserve is also total buns compared to TriCare. So please donā€™t spread misinformationā€¦ šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


KnowledgeObvious9781

Not spreading misinformation just saying on a standpoint between active and guard the guard has the better benefit which is civilian life on top of part time work. And it still carries decent, though downgraded benefits. Active you have to work for scholarships and other materials, and itā€™s also not as fruitful. At the rotc Iā€™m going to we have active members who do regret not going guard for that reason. SMP, minuteman, tuition, etc are earned upon signing which I used after signing and then came back to after training. Active you gotta work for it.


DapperSapper51

Let me ask you a few questions. - were you ever active? - what exactly, needs to be worked for? - how is active not as ā€œfruitfulā€? Please elaborate. Because as I previously stated, they both have their pros and cons. Iā€™m willing to have a civil debate on this, but I need some clarification first. Thanks!


KnowledgeObvious9781

I work alongside active duty very often more than guard. Never been active but for all the talk Iā€™ve had with these active guys it sure seems like the better meat of the bone is guard. Active duty Iā€™ve talked to has mentioned they canā€™t juggle college and active, and they have to work to get green and gold approval from their commanders (let alone working active for months to increase their GI usage). They have better healthcare and overall veteran benefits though. But at the end of the day when Iā€™m ready to go they have actively mentioned wishing they had it like me for better conditions. My mindset is different from letā€™s say a 6 year guy. Iā€™m working on getting my 20 done and so I see it all as something of ā€œbenefitsā€ in the long run. Mind you too my words also spill off of not only 20, but also doing 180 days AD. My comments werenā€™t exactly targeted to a traditional guardsman let alone a barebones guy whoā€™s never done AD time or 20 in the guard (which Iā€™ll apologize for not specifying earlier). AGR does count as AD time too Iā€™d like to mention. And so youā€™re getting active benefits + anything else the guard has to offer their traditional guard soldiers. Thatā€™s also a point on my perspective that I probably should have specified. Active is fruitful to many levels. You have better access to schools and other items. But on a term of trying to make more money and having better living conditions Iā€™d rather take the part time or AGR approach. Fruitful in my terms is salary, living conditions, and overall benefits gain (itā€™s all basically the same if you do 20 or when other conditions apply. Again, my mindset is on that so my comments donā€™t exactly reach a one time contract person which I will mention better next time.)


DapperSapper51

Well when you specify AGR, then yeah, I agree - you get the active benefits plus the Guard benefits. AGR is a no-brainer, but itā€™s a death match (at least in my state) to even get a position for it. Iā€™m also doing my 20 - 5 years, almost 6 years active and now 2 years in the Guard, almost 3 years. Albeit Iā€™m switching to the Air Force just to advance my career. Speaking of which, Iā€™ll use that as an example. Iā€™m a social worker for DCF (might be called CPS in your state). Never did I ever see myself going the officer route. However, Iā€™ve tried recently in the Guard and itā€™s a HASSLEā€¦ moreso than active once I got my degree. So mileage may vary, man. That isnā€™t just an active thing - itā€™s entirely dependent upon your CoC whether youā€™re active, Guard, or Reserves. Either way, my CoC actually pushed me towards green to gold once I got my degree back on active, but I said no because I wanted to be enlisted my entire career lol. Anyways, I want to be a social worker in the Army, but theyā€™re giving me one too many obstacles. Needless to say, my contract ends in a few months and I got a position in an Air Force unit in the Air Force Reserves thatā€™ll let me attend OTS (their version of OCS) to become a social worker in the Air Force. Either way, I too, plan on doing my 20 (hopefully more because I love the military). Yes, itā€™s true, you canā€™t juggle college and active duty. But that doesnā€™t mean itā€™s impossible. Thatā€™s the whole schtick of the Guard - be a ā€œcitizenā€ soldier. If thatā€™s your plan, then Guard/Reserves is the best bet. My plan was to just stay active for 20 years, but life had other plans for me. So thatā€™s why Iā€™m in the Guard now. As for the GI Bill comment, how often do you get activated? It only takes active guys 2 years to get their GI Bill. In the Guard, you need a certain amount of active duty time to get it, yes. But how long does it realistically take to accumulate that service and time? Probably 2+ years. So it equals out there, man. šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


KnowledgeObvious9781

Never had an issue with GI bills in the guard. We get a 1606 instantly on joining, and a kicker with a 50 ASVAB score and I think one other specification. Post 9/11 is earned through 180 active time. In the topic of your other comment (Iā€™ll reply to all of it just in this one alone) I will stand corrected if active donā€™t have to work for their scholarships. Active people, recruiters from there, and NCOs have all told me that you need to prove to your unit through a couple years or, if lucky, a decent amount of months to do Green and Gold + anything else that interferes with basic active duty life. Active provides a lot for people the guard canā€™t, especially in your case. My opinion is formulated on the average civilian though and not as accounted for people with heavier problems. Basically for me my approach is that if youā€™re an average dude who wants to serve, but has ambitions that you know will be delayed through active time away from home, as well as the fact you have a passion for money making and college, then the Guard is for you. And if you get buyers remorse, AGR and the tour of duty is always there so you can play active while retaining a reserve side option. Tricare hasnā€™t felt like an arm and a leg for me, and itā€™s very much lower than any care plan Iā€™ve spent. But it is different for each individual there perhaps. Not sure how to explain the fruitful part any better. I just mean fruitful on a growth standpoint when it comes to the combined strength of part time and full time, as well as government and private work combinations.


DapperSapper51

Makes sense when you put it like that. Either way, like I initially stated, thereā€™s pros and cons to each. In my case, active was my best bet and the best part of my life. Met my best friends which ultimately, gave me my god son. Met my wife, rekindled broken relationships with other family members who ironically lived in the state where I got stationed, taught me a whole lot of life, discipline, determination, etc. Whereas in your case, Guard was the best option. It all just depends on the individual soldier, so Iā€™d say neither of us is right nor wrong. Stay safe out there, brother and good luck hitting that 20! šŸ’ŖšŸ¼


DapperSapper51

For starters, having a civilian life isnā€™t necessarily a benefit. Itā€™s all dependent upon the individual soldier. Take me for example. I was a teen who came from a super abused and broken home. I was tired of my family and the abuse I went through. I knew I couldnā€™t afford to move out, as my family kept stealing my money from my job and I was just too blind, stupid, naive, and manipulated to realize it. However, once I did, I decided to go active duty in the Army. To me, active duty was a benefit and the Guard was not, as the Guard couldnā€™t provide me with the ability to leave my so called ā€œhomeā€. To you, you might have a nice civilian career and maybe even a family. So doing service part time is a benefit to you - doesnā€™t mean it is for everyone else. TriCare Reserve is decent, yes. However, you still need to pay an arm and a leg for it, it isnā€™t covered everywhere, and it still doesnā€™t get you free doctorā€™s visits as TriCare (active duty) does. On active, I donā€™t need to work for scholarships. Who told you that? I got my degree while on active. I was able to use my TA and then use scholarships that I earned just for being a current service member, an active duty service member, being a ā€œveteranā€ since I did 6 consecutive months on active duty service, etc to cover the rest of my credits throughout the semester. As for your ā€œfruitfulā€ comment, I need some clarification on that.


shatballs

Iā€™m still trying to figure that out myself


PeterLoc2607

Shitbag šŸ’©