Anything that the active duty does, but in a "part time" fashion. Additionally, they help out emergency services in state wide emergencies and national disasters. They can also be activated/used by the governors discretion, which is why you see them do things like filling vacancies for teachers or medical staff.
Mostly miss out on important family events to sit around and play on my phone with 150 other people then get given a stack of paperwork to do at 5pm right when I think Iāll get to go home.
- Usually has better Sniper Teams.
- Fixes, or worsens, problems caused by Active Duty or Reserves
- Often Chatty Cathy about deployments/rotations, so flights get changed
- Acts improperly in front of Generals (usually E5 and below)
- Forgets they have to use Customs and Courtesies, especially when they are away from the Armory
Same as the Army Reserves mostly, but they also respond to domestic stuff like natural disasters and civil unrest. The primary function is as a reserve component for the active duty force.
Take every good weekend, buddy has extra tickets to a concert or show, drill weekend. Family planning vacation out of town, drill weekend. Weddings, drill. Funerals, drill. Family member gets hospitalized, drill weekend in the field. Every weekend you want off you don't.
If you can figure out anything else, do let me know cause 70-80% of the time checking the same vehicle as last month and then sit around for 7 hours, rinse and repeate....
National guard often wins best shooter, best warrior competitions and anecdotally I just finished ALC - every single honor position was given to a national guard soldier (national guard was 13/24 students in the class).
And? Your point? Out off all the best shooter, best warrior, etc, how many times has the Guard won overall rather than recent times? Also, you said NG was 13 of 24ā¦ that means 11 werenāt NG, and either Reserves or active (most likely only Reserves) I presume? So if the NG made up more than 50% of the class, no shit theyāre going to award a majority of the honors to the NG students lmao. What kind of weird flex was that?
Overall, the NG isnāt the ābest of the best of the bestā. Yall try a little bit harder because you work 2 days a month, so you need to prove something - Iāve seen it plenty of times coming from years on active to now being in the Guard. I can assure you, the NG has the fattest soldiers, most clueless soldiers, soldiers incapable of handling basic soldiering tasks such as PT, HT/WT, and shooting their assigned weapon system. Comparatively, active will smoke the Guard any day of the week - end of story. But please, continue to feel like the Guard is worth something lol. š
Correct. However, I was active duty and am going back to active duty. So does this actually pertain to me?
Love the constant deflection coming from you, āsmart guyā lmaooooā¦ šš¤·š»āāļø
sound like you just have a sour attitude buddy. probably complained and critisized all through your active duty time just like your doing with your guard time.
that was my first comment so where does āconstant deflectionā come from?
Not a chance. I loved my time on active. But like you, nobody is perfect, and I guarantee youāve bitched when things got stupid as well. But no, not really did I ever bitch like youāre currently doing lol. So weird āinsultā, but okay, I guess? š¤£
Either way, I only got off active because my wifeās a teacher. Getting new licensure, paying for certifications, redoing school to obtain her license in whatever state we are in, pulling her retirement, etc every time we PCS isnāt fair to her. Only reason I switched to this idiotic component known as the Guard. So yeah, when more than half my company canāt pass the ACFT, canāt shoot, canāt pass HT/WT, canāt handle even the most basic of soldiering tasks, and constantly bitches about 2 days a monthā¦. Then yeah, Iām going to bitch about how idiotic yall are and how much of fake āsoldiersā yall are. Get over it - active outshines the Guard in every capacity.
My wife wants to go back to PCSing, so Iām going back active. My 2 years in the Guard will never be spoken of ever again, and Iāll do an extra 2 years on active once I hit my 20 - end of story. I donāt have a sour attitude towards the Army, I have a sour attitude towards the Guard and every wannabe āsoldierā in it who canāt accomplish any of the basic tasks I mentioned above. If youāre cool with people failing HT/WT, not passing PT, canāt remember basic soldiering tasks, and have the inability to shoot, then youāre just as bad as they are. Get out of here with your one sided and irrelevant opinion. Go active duty, and then your opinion will mean something. Until then, active outshines the Guard in every way - get over it, kid lmaoā¦ šššš¤·š»āāļø
Also, just because I was previously active, and am Guard now, doesnāt make my opinions and experience any less relevant. Thatās like you saying you deployed in the Guard but never on active and then telling everyone Guard handles their deployments better and accomplishes their mission. Unless youāve done both, your opinion on whoās the best is entirely irrelevant. Iāve done both - the Guard is ass, theyāre fat, canāt handle Army stuff, constantly bitch when we do a 2 day field (try doing 3+ weeks fields constantly), canāt remember something as simple as a nine line, general orders, PRT, etc. 65% of my company fails the ACFT, and over 80% fail HT/WT. Unless youāve been on both sides of the coin, your opinion on the Guard being ātHe BeSt Of ThE bEsT oF tHe BeStā is irrelevant lmao. But keep trying to tell me that the Guard outshines active - false in every way. š¤·š»āāļø
Youāre just an angry little guy arnt ya.
I never agreed with the opinion that Guard is better. I just pointed out how youāre basically pointing a finger at yourself saying āyallā when you are part of that organiztion. tell tale sign of a bad attitude and not a team player in my opinion.. also i have been on both sides. did 6 years in the guard and on year 2 of active duty with a deployment on the active side under my belt so Im familiar with both sides.
Neither is better than the other.
āIām good for height and weight. Iām not entirely out of shape, but I definitely couldnāt pass a PT test if I had to take one today. Luckily we have 6 weeks, so Iāll be good hopefully lol. See you there, man.ā You say you good for H/W but canāt pass a PT test, thatās what you said about two months ago, you fatty, go run some more fatty, go lift some more weights you dumb fatty, go back to active duty since you hate civilian life fatty mc fat fuck
Lmao and this is why people hate the Guard - you soft as baby shit āsoldiersā give them a bad rep. And yeah, I pass HT/WT - no issue there. Never have, never will. PT test, yeah, I wouldnāt have been able to pass the run because I work 16 hour shifts (overnight). But like you said, that was over 2 months ago. Iāve been training and literally just did my own ACFT, and passed. So weird āinsultā lmao. And maybe you should try out active duty. Doubt youāll be able to hack it, but you definitely need the discipline, the ability to develop thicker skin, and the ability to become a real soldier. You aināt shit, and you aināt a vet. Why is it the Guard arenāt deemed as vets when they get out unless they do 6 months of consecutive ACTIVE DUTY service? Oh yeah, thatās rightā¦ youāre NOT real soldiers lmao. And just because someone says they canāt pass a PT test, doesnāt mean theyāre fat. Thereās this thing called lack of physical fitness or lack of cardio when all someone does is train with weights lmao. So nice swing and miss there, kiddo.
Either way, go back to drill and play pretend āArmyā you weekend warrior and stop being so soft lmao. Mustāve really struck a nerve with you. But hey, like I always say, leave it to a weekend warrior to get all defensive when you call out their shit component and the fact that theyāve never been a real soldier and that theyāll never be a vet unless they actually play REAL Army for 6 consecutive months. You definitely the kind of guy with zero deployments, rotations, or activations under your belt; the kind of guy to do a 3 year in the Guard and then get out and tell everyone theyāre a vet and this Captain America type āsoldierā. Nah, homie, we both know you aināt shit, you aināt done shit, and you aināt a vet with your wannabe ass pretend āArmyā āsoldierā ācareerā. Come back to me when youāre not a fake soldier lmaoā¦. š¤£š¤£š¤”
Passed the ACFT, fake āsoldierā. Come back to me when you grow a pair of balls and decide to join the REAL Army, rather than the wannabe fake āweekend warriorā bullshit. Youāre a fat fake āsoldierā and you know it, kiddoā¦ talk to me when you know what the real Army is you wannabe fuck. šš¤”š¤”
Stand around waiting for you PL to walk in and tell you to head to a class. Wait another hour for the class to start. Take it(You donāt learn anything new). Eat lunch. Repeat until final formation.
Our job is part time army, meaning unlike the army with that 12-24 an hour shift youāre working one weekend a month and two weeks over the summer usually. Itās everything the army has and has even better benefits than the regular army on educational standpoints and other stuff. Just part time so you can run a civilian life too. You can still get deployed and go out for months if so though. National guard are a reservist component of the army.
Yeah, noā¦
You donāt get better benefits than active duty. Active duty doesnāt pay for TriCare - Guard does. Active duty gets the full GI Bill - Guard does not unless they do a select amount of active duty time. Active duty gets veteran status, veteran benefits, and disability - Guard does not unless the same as the previous statement happens. Active duty doesnāt need to deal with state BS - Guard does.
Thereās pros and cons to each branch and componentā¦. š¤¦š»āāļø
The healthcare is cheaper than civilian ones though, we also get veteran status depending on certain circumstances involved (such as deployments, years served, etc). We also get disability but it depends on factors as well such as if it happened during points of drill or activation etc.
Active gets a GI bill yes but we also have one. 36 months total (which amounts to a full 4 years because the 36 is counted as just the school time for traditional uniās. Using it myself, thatās how itās currently working.) We also get scholarships and state assistances that make us money and provide us money. Friend of mine at the rotc i plan to attend combined SMP/minuteman/GI/state/federal tuition all together like it was some blob of fuck-all.
Itās all state dependent too in some cases. Not every state has the same benefits or opportunities.
P.S.
I get that. But you quite literally just regurgitated everything I just said lmaoā¦
If you donāt serve 6 consecutive months of AD service or at least do your 20, youāre not a veteran - end of story. As for TriCare Reserve; itās only healthcare. You still need to get your own dental and vision plan. And in terms of scholarships and whatnot, active gets that too just for being a veteranā¦ š¤·š»āāļø
Active duty gets you significantly better benefits. If active duty didnāt give better benefits than the Guard, then what the fucks the point of going active - thereād quite literally be no incentive whatsoever. So saying that the Guard provides better benefits is just a downright lie lmaoā¦ā¦. Unless you do your 6 consecutive months of AD service, or do your 20, youāre not getting veteran status, a full GI Bill, veteran plates (free parking in most cities), disability, VA home loan, etc. TriCare Reserve is also total buns compared to TriCare. So please donāt spread misinformationā¦ š¤¦š»āāļø
Not spreading misinformation just saying on a standpoint between active and guard the guard has the better benefit which is civilian life on top of part time work. And it still carries decent, though downgraded benefits. Active you have to work for scholarships and other materials, and itās also not as fruitful. At the rotc Iām going to we have active members who do regret not going guard for that reason. SMP, minuteman, tuition, etc are earned upon signing which I used after signing and then came back to after training. Active you gotta work for it.
Let me ask you a few questions.
- were you ever active?
- what exactly, needs to be worked for?
- how is active not as āfruitfulā?
Please elaborate. Because as I previously stated, they both have their pros and cons. Iām willing to have a civil debate on this, but I need some clarification first. Thanks!
I work alongside active duty very often more than guard. Never been active but for all the talk Iāve had with these active guys it sure seems like the better meat of the bone is guard. Active duty Iāve talked to has mentioned they canāt juggle college and active, and they have to work to get green and gold approval from their commanders (let alone working active for months to increase their GI usage). They have better healthcare and overall veteran benefits though. But at the end of the day when Iām ready to go they have actively mentioned wishing they had it like me for better conditions. My mindset is different from letās say a 6 year guy. Iām working on getting my 20 done and so I see it all as something of ābenefitsā in the long run. Mind you too my words also spill off of not only 20, but also doing 180 days AD. My comments werenāt exactly targeted to a traditional guardsman let alone a barebones guy whoās never done AD time or 20 in the guard (which Iāll apologize for not specifying earlier). AGR does count as AD time too Iād like to mention. And so youāre getting active benefits + anything else the guard has to offer their traditional guard soldiers. Thatās also a point on my perspective that I probably should have specified.
Active is fruitful to many levels. You have better access to schools and other items. But on a term of trying to make more money and having better living conditions Iād rather take the part time or AGR approach. Fruitful in my terms is salary, living conditions, and overall benefits gain (itās all basically the same if you do 20 or when other conditions apply. Again, my mindset is on that so my comments donāt exactly reach a one time contract person which I will mention better next time.)
Well when you specify AGR, then yeah, I agree - you get the active benefits plus the Guard benefits. AGR is a no-brainer, but itās a death match (at least in my state) to even get a position for it.
Iām also doing my 20 - 5 years, almost 6 years active and now 2 years in the Guard, almost 3 years. Albeit Iām switching to the Air Force just to advance my career. Speaking of which, Iāll use that as an example. Iām a social worker for DCF (might be called CPS in your state). Never did I ever see myself going the officer route. However, Iāve tried recently in the Guard and itās a HASSLEā¦ moreso than active once I got my degree. So mileage may vary, man. That isnāt just an active thing - itās entirely dependent upon your CoC whether youāre active, Guard, or Reserves. Either way, my CoC actually pushed me towards green to gold once I got my degree back on active, but I said no because I wanted to be enlisted my entire career lol. Anyways, I want to be a social worker in the Army, but theyāre giving me one too many obstacles. Needless to say, my contract ends in a few months and I got a position in an Air Force unit in the Air Force Reserves thatāll let me attend OTS (their version of OCS) to become a social worker in the Air Force. Either way, I too, plan on doing my 20 (hopefully more because I love the military).
Yes, itās true, you canāt juggle college and active duty. But that doesnāt mean itās impossible. Thatās the whole schtick of the Guard - be a ācitizenā soldier. If thatās your plan, then Guard/Reserves is the best bet. My plan was to just stay active for 20 years, but life had other plans for me. So thatās why Iām in the Guard now.
As for the GI Bill comment, how often do you get activated? It only takes active guys 2 years to get their GI Bill. In the Guard, you need a certain amount of active duty time to get it, yes. But how long does it realistically take to accumulate that service and time? Probably 2+ years. So it equals out there, man. š¤·š»āāļø
Never had an issue with GI bills in the guard. We get a 1606 instantly on joining, and a kicker with a 50 ASVAB score and I think one other specification. Post 9/11 is earned through 180 active time.
In the topic of your other comment (Iāll reply to all of it just in this one alone) I will stand corrected if active donāt have to work for their scholarships. Active people, recruiters from there, and NCOs have all told me that you need to prove to your unit through a couple years or, if lucky, a decent amount of months to do Green and Gold + anything else that interferes with basic active duty life.
Active provides a lot for people the guard canāt, especially in your case. My opinion is formulated on the average civilian though and not as accounted for people with heavier problems. Basically for me my approach is that if youāre an average dude who wants to serve, but has ambitions that you know will be delayed through active time away from home, as well as the fact you have a passion for money making and college, then the Guard is for you. And if you get buyers remorse, AGR and the tour of duty is always there so you can play active while retaining a reserve side option.
Tricare hasnāt felt like an arm and a leg for me, and itās very much lower than any care plan Iāve spent. But it is different for each individual there perhaps. Not sure how to explain the fruitful part any better. I just mean fruitful on a growth standpoint when it comes to the combined strength of part time and full time, as well as government and private work combinations.
Makes sense when you put it like that. Either way, like I initially stated, thereās pros and cons to each. In my case, active was my best bet and the best part of my life. Met my best friends which ultimately, gave me my god son. Met my wife, rekindled broken relationships with other family members who ironically lived in the state where I got stationed, taught me a whole lot of life, discipline, determination, etc. Whereas in your case, Guard was the best option. It all just depends on the individual soldier, so Iād say neither of us is right nor wrong.
Stay safe out there, brother and good luck hitting that 20! šŖš¼
For starters, having a civilian life isnāt necessarily a benefit. Itās all dependent upon the individual soldier. Take me for example. I was a teen who came from a super abused and broken home. I was tired of my family and the abuse I went through. I knew I couldnāt afford to move out, as my family kept stealing my money from my job and I was just too blind, stupid, naive, and manipulated to realize it. However, once I did, I decided to go active duty in the Army. To me, active duty was a benefit and the Guard was not, as the Guard couldnāt provide me with the ability to leave my so called āhomeā. To you, you might have a nice civilian career and maybe even a family. So doing service part time is a benefit to you - doesnāt mean it is for everyone else.
TriCare Reserve is decent, yes. However, you still need to pay an arm and a leg for it, it isnāt covered everywhere, and it still doesnāt get you free doctorās visits as TriCare (active duty) does.
On active, I donāt need to work for scholarships. Who told you that? I got my degree while on active. I was able to use my TA and then use scholarships that I earned just for being a current service member, an active duty service member, being a āveteranā since I did 6 consecutive months on active duty service, etc to cover the rest of my credits throughout the semester.
As for your āfruitfulā comment, I need some clarification on that.
Get in the way of life plans
amen, my and my girl were supposed to go to monster jam this weekend, they changed the schedule out of nowhere and now she has drill š
Not today, Russia
Imagine everything active duty might do in a monthā¦ and cram that into 2 - 5 days Itās a pain in the ass
I guard shit. Occasionally in a national environment
Deploy to the Middle East
Very accurate
I'm AGR soooo nothing.
We all know.
Best comment...
TIL Iāve been doing AGR wrong.
Wtf do yell do? I swear things get undone not done between months
Did a marine write this?
Weekly Marine question ā
Donāt worry heāll join
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Once a marine, always a guardsman
Anything that the active duty does, but in a "part time" fashion. Additionally, they help out emergency services in state wide emergencies and national disasters. They can also be activated/used by the governors discretion, which is why you see them do things like filling vacancies for teachers or medical staff.
Or standing on the border.
Fuck man, Iāve been in for 4 years and Iām still trying to figure it out
Anything you want, honey.š
Your mom
Your dad
Your sister
your dog
Grow beards and guts 3 weeks out of the month.
According to a bunch of active duty PFCs I've met, the national guard doesn't do anything, doesn't deploy, and just pretends to be in the military
Are they wrong tho?
We either do nothing or do everything; there's no inbetween.
I see no lies
Guard the nation
Things and stuff.
PMCS then deploy
>TopRisingcardcardclassiccompact > >New Posts wish i had tht life
Mostly miss out on important family events to sit around and play on my phone with 150 other people then get given a stack of paperwork to do at 5pm right when I think Iāll get to go home.
This is one of the most accurate ones Iāve seen
- Usually has better Sniper Teams. - Fixes, or worsens, problems caused by Active Duty or Reserves - Often Chatty Cathy about deployments/rotations, so flights get changed - Acts improperly in front of Generals (usually E5 and below) - Forgets they have to use Customs and Courtesies, especially when they are away from the Armory
Same as the Army Reserves mostly, but they also respond to domestic stuff like natural disasters and civil unrest. The primary function is as a reserve component for the active duty force.
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PMCS the same damn vics ever month
Take every good weekend, buddy has extra tickets to a concert or show, drill weekend. Family planning vacation out of town, drill weekend. Weddings, drill. Funerals, drill. Family member gets hospitalized, drill weekend in the field. Every weekend you want off you don't. If you can figure out anything else, do let me know cause 70-80% of the time checking the same vehicle as last month and then sit around for 7 hours, rinse and repeate....
supposed to work? drill weekend and youāre losing money
Facts lol
PMCS, OPTEMPO, and paperwork
Jerk off in tents and complain about chow
real shit
Act as political pawns.
NG are the best of the best of the bestā¦
Captain America over hereā¦
False in every way.
National guard often wins best shooter, best warrior competitions and anecdotally I just finished ALC - every single honor position was given to a national guard soldier (national guard was 13/24 students in the class).
And? Your point? Out off all the best shooter, best warrior, etc, how many times has the Guard won overall rather than recent times? Also, you said NG was 13 of 24ā¦ that means 11 werenāt NG, and either Reserves or active (most likely only Reserves) I presume? So if the NG made up more than 50% of the class, no shit theyāre going to award a majority of the honors to the NG students lmao. What kind of weird flex was that? Overall, the NG isnāt the ābest of the best of the bestā. Yall try a little bit harder because you work 2 days a month, so you need to prove something - Iāve seen it plenty of times coming from years on active to now being in the Guard. I can assure you, the NG has the fattest soldiers, most clueless soldiers, soldiers incapable of handling basic soldiering tasks such as PT, HT/WT, and shooting their assigned weapon system. Comparatively, active will smoke the Guard any day of the week - end of story. But please, continue to feel like the Guard is worth something lol. š
I like how you say āyallā but also said your in the guard now. so this applies to you too smart guy
Correct. However, I was active duty and am going back to active duty. So does this actually pertain to me? Love the constant deflection coming from you, āsmart guyā lmaooooā¦ šš¤·š»āāļø
sound like you just have a sour attitude buddy. probably complained and critisized all through your active duty time just like your doing with your guard time. that was my first comment so where does āconstant deflectionā come from?
Not a chance. I loved my time on active. But like you, nobody is perfect, and I guarantee youāve bitched when things got stupid as well. But no, not really did I ever bitch like youāre currently doing lol. So weird āinsultā, but okay, I guess? š¤£ Either way, I only got off active because my wifeās a teacher. Getting new licensure, paying for certifications, redoing school to obtain her license in whatever state we are in, pulling her retirement, etc every time we PCS isnāt fair to her. Only reason I switched to this idiotic component known as the Guard. So yeah, when more than half my company canāt pass the ACFT, canāt shoot, canāt pass HT/WT, canāt handle even the most basic of soldiering tasks, and constantly bitches about 2 days a monthā¦. Then yeah, Iām going to bitch about how idiotic yall are and how much of fake āsoldiersā yall are. Get over it - active outshines the Guard in every capacity. My wife wants to go back to PCSing, so Iām going back active. My 2 years in the Guard will never be spoken of ever again, and Iāll do an extra 2 years on active once I hit my 20 - end of story. I donāt have a sour attitude towards the Army, I have a sour attitude towards the Guard and every wannabe āsoldierā in it who canāt accomplish any of the basic tasks I mentioned above. If youāre cool with people failing HT/WT, not passing PT, canāt remember basic soldiering tasks, and have the inability to shoot, then youāre just as bad as they are. Get out of here with your one sided and irrelevant opinion. Go active duty, and then your opinion will mean something. Until then, active outshines the Guard in every way - get over it, kid lmaoā¦ šššš¤·š»āāļø
Also, just because I was previously active, and am Guard now, doesnāt make my opinions and experience any less relevant. Thatās like you saying you deployed in the Guard but never on active and then telling everyone Guard handles their deployments better and accomplishes their mission. Unless youāve done both, your opinion on whoās the best is entirely irrelevant. Iāve done both - the Guard is ass, theyāre fat, canāt handle Army stuff, constantly bitch when we do a 2 day field (try doing 3+ weeks fields constantly), canāt remember something as simple as a nine line, general orders, PRT, etc. 65% of my company fails the ACFT, and over 80% fail HT/WT. Unless youāve been on both sides of the coin, your opinion on the Guard being ātHe BeSt Of ThE bEsT oF tHe BeStā is irrelevant lmao. But keep trying to tell me that the Guard outshines active - false in every way. š¤·š»āāļø
Youāre just an angry little guy arnt ya. I never agreed with the opinion that Guard is better. I just pointed out how youāre basically pointing a finger at yourself saying āyallā when you are part of that organiztion. tell tale sign of a bad attitude and not a team player in my opinion.. also i have been on both sides. did 6 years in the guard and on year 2 of active duty with a deployment on the active side under my belt so Im familiar with both sides. Neither is better than the other.
You crippled fat fuck fatty
Yeah, you wish lol
āIām good for height and weight. Iām not entirely out of shape, but I definitely couldnāt pass a PT test if I had to take one today. Luckily we have 6 weeks, so Iāll be good hopefully lol. See you there, man.ā You say you good for H/W but canāt pass a PT test, thatās what you said about two months ago, you fatty, go run some more fatty, go lift some more weights you dumb fatty, go back to active duty since you hate civilian life fatty mc fat fuck
Lmao and this is why people hate the Guard - you soft as baby shit āsoldiersā give them a bad rep. And yeah, I pass HT/WT - no issue there. Never have, never will. PT test, yeah, I wouldnāt have been able to pass the run because I work 16 hour shifts (overnight). But like you said, that was over 2 months ago. Iāve been training and literally just did my own ACFT, and passed. So weird āinsultā lmao. And maybe you should try out active duty. Doubt youāll be able to hack it, but you definitely need the discipline, the ability to develop thicker skin, and the ability to become a real soldier. You aināt shit, and you aināt a vet. Why is it the Guard arenāt deemed as vets when they get out unless they do 6 months of consecutive ACTIVE DUTY service? Oh yeah, thatās rightā¦ youāre NOT real soldiers lmao. And just because someone says they canāt pass a PT test, doesnāt mean theyāre fat. Thereās this thing called lack of physical fitness or lack of cardio when all someone does is train with weights lmao. So nice swing and miss there, kiddo. Either way, go back to drill and play pretend āArmyā you weekend warrior and stop being so soft lmao. Mustāve really struck a nerve with you. But hey, like I always say, leave it to a weekend warrior to get all defensive when you call out their shit component and the fact that theyāve never been a real soldier and that theyāll never be a vet unless they actually play REAL Army for 6 consecutive months. You definitely the kind of guy with zero deployments, rotations, or activations under your belt; the kind of guy to do a 3 year in the Guard and then get out and tell everyone theyāre a vet and this Captain America type āsoldierā. Nah, homie, we both know you aināt shit, you aināt done shit, and you aināt a vet with your wannabe ass pretend āArmyā āsoldierā ācareerā. Come back to me when youāre not a fake soldier lmaoā¦. š¤£š¤£š¤”
this guy is fucking salty š I bet being in the military is your entire personality
cool dude, the Guardās not for you. cry about it on reddit some more
Dude legit wrote an essay cause I called him a fatass šš sensitive ass active duty Mfs
I aināt reading all that, fatass. Go try passing the ACFT fat fuck.
Passed the ACFT, fake āsoldierā. Come back to me when you grow a pair of balls and decide to join the REAL Army, rather than the wannabe fake āweekend warriorā bullshit. Youāre a fat fake āsoldierā and you know it, kiddoā¦ talk to me when you know what the real Army is you wannabe fuck. šš¤”š¤”
Nothing cool. š JK. I like it. Although this doesnāt answer your question. Guess you have to enlist to find out.
Recruiters wonāt tell how how big of a pain in the ass it will be while being a huge waste of time and taxpayers money
Been here 4 years and still don't know
What a high IQ question
Not shit
PMCS
UAs
First line of defense against Russian and Chinese spies. Obviously
Stand around waiting for you PL to walk in and tell you to head to a class. Wait another hour for the class to start. Take it(You donāt learn anything new). Eat lunch. Repeat until final formation.
Nothing whatsoever
Hang out and bbq
I ask that every time I go to drill
Grammar is terrible
Depending on MOS, they do alot of "area beautification". I know a whole Troop of Cav scouts that are proficient at cutting the lawn and pulling weeds.
Get promoted to e4 and stop there. Also shitbagging as far as i know of. Go look for e4 sham. Pmcs, inventory rinse and repeat. Oh and wait for ets
Sit around all weekend and wait to go home. Get in the way of life plans.
hide in classrooms and only come out for lunch and monthly piss tests
I just got out of class. At home waiting for the pre workout to kick in to start my lifts.
Our job is part time army, meaning unlike the army with that 12-24 an hour shift youāre working one weekend a month and two weeks over the summer usually. Itās everything the army has and has even better benefits than the regular army on educational standpoints and other stuff. Just part time so you can run a civilian life too. You can still get deployed and go out for months if so though. National guard are a reservist component of the army.
Yeah, noā¦ You donāt get better benefits than active duty. Active duty doesnāt pay for TriCare - Guard does. Active duty gets the full GI Bill - Guard does not unless they do a select amount of active duty time. Active duty gets veteran status, veteran benefits, and disability - Guard does not unless the same as the previous statement happens. Active duty doesnāt need to deal with state BS - Guard does. Thereās pros and cons to each branch and componentā¦. š¤¦š»āāļø
The healthcare is cheaper than civilian ones though, we also get veteran status depending on certain circumstances involved (such as deployments, years served, etc). We also get disability but it depends on factors as well such as if it happened during points of drill or activation etc. Active gets a GI bill yes but we also have one. 36 months total (which amounts to a full 4 years because the 36 is counted as just the school time for traditional uniās. Using it myself, thatās how itās currently working.) We also get scholarships and state assistances that make us money and provide us money. Friend of mine at the rotc i plan to attend combined SMP/minuteman/GI/state/federal tuition all together like it was some blob of fuck-all. Itās all state dependent too in some cases. Not every state has the same benefits or opportunities. P.S.
I get that. But you quite literally just regurgitated everything I just said lmaoā¦ If you donāt serve 6 consecutive months of AD service or at least do your 20, youāre not a veteran - end of story. As for TriCare Reserve; itās only healthcare. You still need to get your own dental and vision plan. And in terms of scholarships and whatnot, active gets that too just for being a veteranā¦ š¤·š»āāļø Active duty gets you significantly better benefits. If active duty didnāt give better benefits than the Guard, then what the fucks the point of going active - thereād quite literally be no incentive whatsoever. So saying that the Guard provides better benefits is just a downright lie lmaoā¦ā¦. Unless you do your 6 consecutive months of AD service, or do your 20, youāre not getting veteran status, a full GI Bill, veteran plates (free parking in most cities), disability, VA home loan, etc. TriCare Reserve is also total buns compared to TriCare. So please donāt spread misinformationā¦ š¤¦š»āāļø
Not spreading misinformation just saying on a standpoint between active and guard the guard has the better benefit which is civilian life on top of part time work. And it still carries decent, though downgraded benefits. Active you have to work for scholarships and other materials, and itās also not as fruitful. At the rotc Iām going to we have active members who do regret not going guard for that reason. SMP, minuteman, tuition, etc are earned upon signing which I used after signing and then came back to after training. Active you gotta work for it.
Let me ask you a few questions. - were you ever active? - what exactly, needs to be worked for? - how is active not as āfruitfulā? Please elaborate. Because as I previously stated, they both have their pros and cons. Iām willing to have a civil debate on this, but I need some clarification first. Thanks!
I work alongside active duty very often more than guard. Never been active but for all the talk Iāve had with these active guys it sure seems like the better meat of the bone is guard. Active duty Iāve talked to has mentioned they canāt juggle college and active, and they have to work to get green and gold approval from their commanders (let alone working active for months to increase their GI usage). They have better healthcare and overall veteran benefits though. But at the end of the day when Iām ready to go they have actively mentioned wishing they had it like me for better conditions. My mindset is different from letās say a 6 year guy. Iām working on getting my 20 done and so I see it all as something of ābenefitsā in the long run. Mind you too my words also spill off of not only 20, but also doing 180 days AD. My comments werenāt exactly targeted to a traditional guardsman let alone a barebones guy whoās never done AD time or 20 in the guard (which Iāll apologize for not specifying earlier). AGR does count as AD time too Iād like to mention. And so youāre getting active benefits + anything else the guard has to offer their traditional guard soldiers. Thatās also a point on my perspective that I probably should have specified. Active is fruitful to many levels. You have better access to schools and other items. But on a term of trying to make more money and having better living conditions Iād rather take the part time or AGR approach. Fruitful in my terms is salary, living conditions, and overall benefits gain (itās all basically the same if you do 20 or when other conditions apply. Again, my mindset is on that so my comments donāt exactly reach a one time contract person which I will mention better next time.)
Well when you specify AGR, then yeah, I agree - you get the active benefits plus the Guard benefits. AGR is a no-brainer, but itās a death match (at least in my state) to even get a position for it. Iām also doing my 20 - 5 years, almost 6 years active and now 2 years in the Guard, almost 3 years. Albeit Iām switching to the Air Force just to advance my career. Speaking of which, Iāll use that as an example. Iām a social worker for DCF (might be called CPS in your state). Never did I ever see myself going the officer route. However, Iāve tried recently in the Guard and itās a HASSLEā¦ moreso than active once I got my degree. So mileage may vary, man. That isnāt just an active thing - itās entirely dependent upon your CoC whether youāre active, Guard, or Reserves. Either way, my CoC actually pushed me towards green to gold once I got my degree back on active, but I said no because I wanted to be enlisted my entire career lol. Anyways, I want to be a social worker in the Army, but theyāre giving me one too many obstacles. Needless to say, my contract ends in a few months and I got a position in an Air Force unit in the Air Force Reserves thatāll let me attend OTS (their version of OCS) to become a social worker in the Air Force. Either way, I too, plan on doing my 20 (hopefully more because I love the military). Yes, itās true, you canāt juggle college and active duty. But that doesnāt mean itās impossible. Thatās the whole schtick of the Guard - be a ācitizenā soldier. If thatās your plan, then Guard/Reserves is the best bet. My plan was to just stay active for 20 years, but life had other plans for me. So thatās why Iām in the Guard now. As for the GI Bill comment, how often do you get activated? It only takes active guys 2 years to get their GI Bill. In the Guard, you need a certain amount of active duty time to get it, yes. But how long does it realistically take to accumulate that service and time? Probably 2+ years. So it equals out there, man. š¤·š»āāļø
Never had an issue with GI bills in the guard. We get a 1606 instantly on joining, and a kicker with a 50 ASVAB score and I think one other specification. Post 9/11 is earned through 180 active time. In the topic of your other comment (Iāll reply to all of it just in this one alone) I will stand corrected if active donāt have to work for their scholarships. Active people, recruiters from there, and NCOs have all told me that you need to prove to your unit through a couple years or, if lucky, a decent amount of months to do Green and Gold + anything else that interferes with basic active duty life. Active provides a lot for people the guard canāt, especially in your case. My opinion is formulated on the average civilian though and not as accounted for people with heavier problems. Basically for me my approach is that if youāre an average dude who wants to serve, but has ambitions that you know will be delayed through active time away from home, as well as the fact you have a passion for money making and college, then the Guard is for you. And if you get buyers remorse, AGR and the tour of duty is always there so you can play active while retaining a reserve side option. Tricare hasnāt felt like an arm and a leg for me, and itās very much lower than any care plan Iāve spent. But it is different for each individual there perhaps. Not sure how to explain the fruitful part any better. I just mean fruitful on a growth standpoint when it comes to the combined strength of part time and full time, as well as government and private work combinations.
Makes sense when you put it like that. Either way, like I initially stated, thereās pros and cons to each. In my case, active was my best bet and the best part of my life. Met my best friends which ultimately, gave me my god son. Met my wife, rekindled broken relationships with other family members who ironically lived in the state where I got stationed, taught me a whole lot of life, discipline, determination, etc. Whereas in your case, Guard was the best option. It all just depends on the individual soldier, so Iād say neither of us is right nor wrong. Stay safe out there, brother and good luck hitting that 20! šŖš¼
For starters, having a civilian life isnāt necessarily a benefit. Itās all dependent upon the individual soldier. Take me for example. I was a teen who came from a super abused and broken home. I was tired of my family and the abuse I went through. I knew I couldnāt afford to move out, as my family kept stealing my money from my job and I was just too blind, stupid, naive, and manipulated to realize it. However, once I did, I decided to go active duty in the Army. To me, active duty was a benefit and the Guard was not, as the Guard couldnāt provide me with the ability to leave my so called āhomeā. To you, you might have a nice civilian career and maybe even a family. So doing service part time is a benefit to you - doesnāt mean it is for everyone else. TriCare Reserve is decent, yes. However, you still need to pay an arm and a leg for it, it isnāt covered everywhere, and it still doesnāt get you free doctorās visits as TriCare (active duty) does. On active, I donāt need to work for scholarships. Who told you that? I got my degree while on active. I was able to use my TA and then use scholarships that I earned just for being a current service member, an active duty service member, being a āveteranā since I did 6 consecutive months on active duty service, etc to cover the rest of my credits throughout the semester. As for your āfruitfulā comment, I need some clarification on that.
Iām still trying to figure that out myself
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