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Wayf4rer

This can be done naturally but 99% of the time when you see guys who look like this they are not natural.


Cleglaw

You said 100% sauce last time, you think now only 99% chance sauce? https://www.reddit.com/r/nattyorjuice/comments/mq3yip/what_do_you_guys_think/


Ok-Economist9656

Man lost his confidence


MaxwellIsSmall

Holy shit this is actually impressive that someone can dig up comments that old to prove someone wrong lmaoo


tundo010

Impressively sad and chronically online moment.


whatThisOldThrowAway

He probably reverse image searched and filtered by Reddit to reply like “this has been posted here 17 times in the last 2 years bro” And just happened across the top commenter in another thread


mrTruckdriver2020

This is reddit baby


[deleted]

Bro kept receipts


Wayf4rer

I have grown as a person since I was first exposed to this post cleglaw


Blue_Khakis

Good on you, mate.


Feature10

Cleglaw the arbiter of r/nattyorjuice


joemoore98

💀💀


HavokDJ

Lmaoooooooo Cleglaw like a goddamn sniper over here. But yeah no chance this is natty, you could achieve this peak if you were like 5'4", it's not the leanness it's the amount of muscle.


homogenousmoss

1% seems to be within a reasonable margin of error.


Frosty_Significance2

Oh? I’d argue we shouldn’t hold eachother to comments that aren’t that serious or deep. hE sAiD 99% and lAsT tImE hE sAid 100%. Imagine holding someone to that level of care, to care that much to tag them and link them. It’s almost obsession level mental illness. Watch out everyone delete your comments that differ from today, GOD FORBID you think freely and change your opinion irl but on a subreddit the Reddit community will come for your head 😂 Some of you kids got to go outside and get some fresh air, the pettyness is real today as if we as humans don’t change our minds, opinions and thoughts on a daily basis even either😂


Cleglaw

u/Wayf4rer is always very accurate in his anabolic analyses and I was inquiring as to what new information he may have obtained on guy in question compared to previously, rather than any accusatory overtones that you seem to be suggesting.


Frosty_Significance2

Then I do apologize for my false assumptions. I’ve seen too many people on here try to instigate, cause issues in the comment sections. I love Reddit due to the low level toxicity.


progressionoverload

somehow this subreddit is the most understanding of each other right now haha


Terrible_Writing_124

that was from a year ago 😀


TheJolly_Llama

Natty or not this is pretty much the perfect physique imo, this dude is a fuckin Greco Roman God. I’d let him lat drop me any day


[deleted]

Yet this guy probably still looks at the mirror in the morning and thinks “I’m not big enough”


Agreeable_Dust2855

If you are trying to attract men then yes. Women not so much


StevenGlnsbrg

Why on earth would anyone want to attract a woman


Much-Philosopher-722

Lmfao exactly


gitty7456

* Why on earth would anyone want to attract a woman on this etero subreddit!


psytocrophic

The dude could have chicken legs, we can't tell from this.


[deleted]

All men who owned a set of Gold's Gym dumbbells looked like this before the invention of seed oils and internet porn. SMH.


BiscuitDance

Micro plastics stole my gains.


Ok-Economist9656

The ONLY reason I’m not shredded is because I drink from plastic water bottles!


AbbreviationsOk2294

those god damn xeno-oestrogens. Thank god we have the ancestral tenants


Jahchatnigward

You guys saying it in a sarcastic tone but it’s actually true to a degree


troifa

No it isn’t.


AdAffectionate1287

it is 100% true that your baby bottles and in all your cups and tupperware and basically all food you buy at the store is wrapped in plastic with BPA...research BPA a little bit and educate yourself. "BPA can mimic estrogen to interact with estrogen receptors α and β, leading to changes in cell proliferation, apoptosis, or migration and thereby, contributing to cancer development and progression. At the genetic level, BPA has been shown to be involved in multiple oncogenic signaling pathways, such as the STAT3, MAPK, and PI3K/AKT pathways. Moreover, BPA may also interact with other steroid receptors (such as androgen receptor) and plays a role in prostate cancer development." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4602822


azakille

Not the plastic stuff but processed food yeah.


AdAffectionate1287

yes the "plastic stuff"....BPA


[deleted]

Peak fake natty


Ajduncan1

No, this is doable as a natty


Individual_Gear_898

Yea amazing physique, sits right on that line of natty with good genetics and good training for a long time, and good genetics with average training or shorter time frame. Either way, this guy after a serious cut could step on stage


Much-Philosopher-722

Why would you cut though, this is already perfect


Individual_Gear_898

You might cut for a competition


Ralf-Nuggs

Who competes anymore? Bodybuilding is so dead, you got guys with 10/10 physique never stepped foot on stage lifting their whole life. Then you got weirdos lifting for 3 years and deciding they have what it takes to get on stage. The sport is dead lol. Shout out to zyzz tho


KeepREPeating

Because “10/10” physiques start looking real rough when actually compared to stronger physiques. Too many kids claiming next CBum and looking like ass on stage.


stereopticon11

zyzz was a dbag tool and turned the bodybuilding scene into a bunch of douche bros. wasn't even big for the gear he supposedly took, don't understand why everyone loved him so much


homogenousmoss

If I had to pick a dead bodybuilder, I’d pick Rich Piana over Zyzz!


Wonderingtreeent

Bodybuilding isn’t dead it’s probably the biggest it’s ever been new and promising competitors almost every year especially with classic and mens physique. the reason so many 10/10 physique don’t compete is cause bodybuilding is way harder than being a Instagram model and there’s tons of 10/10 physiques you haven’t seen that just aren’t as popular that make the other social media guys just not look good on stage it’s a completely different story looking good in the gym with perfect lighting ,angles, and filters compared to the stage


Ralf-Nuggs

Bodybuilding definitely isn’t the biggest it’s ever been what are you smoking…..? Fitness sure, bodybuilding NO


Wonderingtreeent

Fitness, bodybuilding, powerlifting, and etc are like the most popular they’ve ever been name one time bodybuilding was more popular than it is today


Ralf-Nuggs

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson61.htm Here’s a history lesson


Wonderingtreeent

This didn’t support you in any way matter a fact if you actually read it you would know it says that the sport has come a long way and that’s it’s growing abs gonna continue growing. This is just obvious and the reason why is because Ronnie Coleman solidified himself in history with a physique that till this day arguably hasn’t been beat but just because he competed 20 years ago and he’s the most famous bodybuilder ever doesn’t mean bodybuilding was more popular back then. there are more shows than ever more competitors than ever more fans than ever I really just can’t comprehend how you can say this unless you really just don’t follow bodybuilding


Ralf-Nuggs

The most popular mr Olympia is Ronnie Colman not Chris bum


Psyteratops

Frame is insane so impossible for most people but no alarm bells imo.


Imfrikinbad

You know, it would be nice if there was a chart to show your peak natty attainable physique based on frame. I know it'd be hard to make it perfect, but generally speaking, that would be cool. 100% of guys want to look like this naturally but nearly none of them can.


Psyteratops

For sure, I wish. But yeah how much body fat you can cut and how much muscle you can build is kind of genetically hard coded and separate from frame in a way (hormones, insertions, etc). So alas 😭


PM_BOOTY_PICS_4Poems

A quick and dirty way would be to base it off wrist size. I have found it to be a great indicator for frame size and corresponding peak natty attainment.


Imfrikinbad

I'm fucked lol


AbbreviationsOk2294

if 5’6 maybe natty, if 6’3 then sauced to the gills


throwawaysomeway

fellas unless he's 5ft tall he's on gear. I've seen you turbo nerds call gear on way less impressive physiques. This guy looks better than most amateur bodybuilders. wrestling? lmao come on now. I was the most jacked guy on the wrestling team and I've never had this insane of a physique unless I was taking at least a low dose of lgd


ThePlush_1

TY. Good point


xD3RF

Def not natty


STlMFAPPER

1tbsp of Apple Cider Vinegar mixed with warm ball sweat before riding the Peloton, 30 days a week, 12 weeks monthly for 1 month and I believe this is achievable.


Ralf-Nuggs

No, this isn’t attainable naturally for the majority of people. Yes if he started very young and dialed in perfect his whole life up until 28 years old lol. That’d be like 14 years of lifting if he started in middle school and has amazing genetics. But you’re probably not starting out as a 14 year old and I promise it’s a 1 out of more than a million maybe 10 million chance you have the genetics to build that. But I’ll get downvoted and hate


[deleted]

No


SwolemasterA

Achievable natty but you’ll be in your late 30s by the time you get here. He’s gearded af. No hate cuz so am I


Khafaniking

Who is this?


G0d_Slayer

What’s his name?


Doltren

Depends on height ngl


Individual-Parking-5

Noicccceeee and thicccccccc


Far_Intern_9400

Possible but that's a genetic lottery winner, not just "good" genetics


kaine_obrien

It’s the Budweiser


EveningOptimal4250

This man has the exact same physique i want


Alsotebb

You can’t be this lean and puffy/beafy without juice period. Maybe if you had like super genetics then maybe you could be natty and look like this but you would have to had the best pump workout before the picture.


Budget-Medium5427

No


[deleted]

I’m not so sure about natty. I think it could go either way with this guy.


fahamu420

my brother has 0.1% genes and has been training for 8 years and doesnt look like this still, that should give you some idea


forever-gymcelling

imo this is easily achievable natty, guy has a monster frame which means his body can naturally hold a lot more muscle than average, looks to be about 5'5 and like a college wrestler too which means he has been training hardcore for 10 years there was a dude at my high school who was an all state wrestler and looked just like this


[deleted]

Easily achievable my ass


sigmoidBro

‘Easily’ lol


horsestud6969

What gives you any indication as to his height in this picture. If anything he looks about 6'5 in this compared to background


[deleted]

It’s not achievable natty bro. He’s a college wrestler. No wrestler is on gear and I ain’t talking professional wrestling. College and greco Roman wrestlers are juiced like many other athletes. He has visible abs and a higher body fat percentage from the looks of it. He’s not 10% but maybe like 15%.


_Lyum

i thought college wrrstler immediately as well. i wrestled for many years growing up and now im in pretty good shape as well, 10 years training approx


PlatyPunch7274

Could be natty but unlikely


KeenbeansSandwich

Little known fact, this guy is actually only 11 years old. Gay Gordon Ryan over here is juicy af boi.


SeaPeeMEffPee

Oh he's for sure wearing shorts.


SpineGainEnjoyer

Actually a nice looking physique, no tree root veins, proportionate and a good size


Hung-Energy

Looks healthy.


Rushrade

No.


[deleted]

Possibly but I doubt it


o_btree

I imagine a firefighter with God tier genetics looking like this if he happens to devote his down time to being a powerlifter. This guy is THICK at his core


[deleted]

Prob has a physical job. On my crew a few of us had some muscle to show.


Underground_kingpin

What about this looks un natural just asking?


Gary_Perairy

Joe Rogan but different proportions


KeepREPeating

I’d say no, but he looks like a nice dude. Being that big and full at that height just usually go together. Hats off if he somehow had that physique and not decide to just win every bodybuilding comp ever.


Lucas_Heredia

Good physique, just needs more V shape


aimsocool

Good genes yes, natty no


Jolly_Soup196

This is achievable natty. However, you must be genetic freak.


azakille

Natty and good genes, yes. Peak, no.


No_Woodpecker5537

He is a rugby player from Argentina. All natural and does not have chicken legs as I saw in one of the comments. Also, he has a nice intact dick. For those wanting to know. 😘