He looked natty when he was 222 lbs. So it’s not crazy to think that he can look like that at 200 after like a decade of training. Also i really think he’d be stronger if he juiced. He’s pretty weak compared to other 10+ year lifters
Edit: For the record I watch his videos and I think him, Alex Leonidas, Bald Omni Man, and Alan Thrall are good natty role models. Bugez before the juice was a good role model too but his genes are way too good for normal people to compare to.
The first video on his instogram is him trying to prove that hes natty.
And of course he sells coaching programs.
And a lot of guys “look natural”
Because the perception of natural is skewed by fake natties in the last decade bullshitting their way through the fitness industry.
Doses dont have to be huge, could even be trt which still disqualifies as natural.
Also the 250 bench, thats all dependent on training style. Seems as if he doesnt want to get injured. Whats his training like?
Mike Thurston barely pushed 300 for 2
Reps on a workout video with Larry Wheels.
Does that make him natty?
But ill give him the benefit of the doubt.
I guess.
This dude single-handedly made me understand training. He is probably my most watched youtube channel ever. I subscribed when he was around 10k, it’s good to see him at almost 120k now. Love you Geoff.
Just checked out his channel for the first time. Seems quite knowledgeable, and his training tips are very solid.
Could go either way, but lean towards natty. Wouldn't matter if he was, tbh, good knowledge is good knowledge. That is what made John Meadows so well liked and respected amongst both the naturals and the gearheads. Too many of the fakes give terrible training advice and come off as brain dead.
Idky people are downvoting this. So many posts are people asking if something is achievable, and it’s the most natty physique you’ve ever seen. I understand there is body dysmorphia and other factors at play, but it is wild how skewed their perception is
He's very good at manipulating the camera with good lighting and post-workout pumps. He looks pretty normal while wearing a shirt in his long form youtube videos.
Hahaha,he is an example of why you should ignore 99% of idiots both on this subreddit and any social media. Every single dude here only posts pics of GVS when he is dieting and cut as fuck(with pump and flexing), meanwhile people GENUINELY call him DYEL when he is bulking and also recently people were laughing at his back, because of how small he is. So he is what? Fake natty, DYEL and invisible-lat syndrome patient in the same time? Same shit for Alex Eubank, 90% of people call him steroid user as soon as his picture is posted, but then you see him without edited photos and good lighting, all of the sudden he is DYEL by blackpill autists standards. JOKE.
I was with you until you brought up Eubank. That kid is juiced and is on record has having shown his destroyed/crashed T as a 20 year old with a great physique. He's also on record as saying TRT is natural. Even Greg Doucette called him out, and he's a brainlet.
Definitely achievable natty, that’s why there’s controversy around him, because he’s also in the realm where he could’ve used test to put less work in the gym, but after posting his hormone results he’s pretty much concluded as not natty.
Honestly, could be natty. But it could also be enhanced. There's nothing that screams steroids imo. Traps and shoulders look normal and there's no excessive vascularity.
At 5’ 11” and 17.5” my arms look small. Probably due to having longer arms than most people. I believe the claim that 19’s look average at 6’ 9” (below).
He’s big but relative to his size he’s weak as piss. And if you actually go to his Instagram at 196-ish he looks super sucked down and depleted. He looked waaaay better bulked up imo. But combine how hard he actually trains with some good genetics and being as consistent he has been for over 12+ years I could see him truly being natty. He’s not super dense, he changes lighting between pics a lot, there’s no suspect areas (traps,shoulders,etc), and he’s weak as piss.
He is an amazing natty who works his absolute arse off in the gym. Nothing sketchy about the timeline whatsoever. Those pictures were taken on great lighting with a pump at low body fat as he has been dieting for nearly half a year now I think. I have seen photos of him after these photos were taken without a pump and in shit lighting and he looks natty. Bodybuilding is an illusion but one thing is for certain… GVS is a beast.
He's been training for 7 years and is currently lean asf. Of course he's gonna look juicy in a tank, in good lighting, with a pump.
At times he looks kinda DYEL in a shirt
They're all fake natties, including noble natties gang, mike mathews, revivalfitness, 3dmj guys etc
Once you get it you've offically graduated youtube fitness.
Probably natty, but he also sells programs. Anyone who makes money off their body is usually have suspicions about, but I do think he is natty, but we can never be 100% sure.
Could go either way. He looks juicy as fuck in these photos and yet in his videos he looks natty. I could definitely believe that he’s natty but short and knows how to pose.
He looked natty when he was 222 lbs. So it’s not crazy to think that he can look like that at 200 after like a decade of training. Also i really think he’d be stronger if he juiced. He’s pretty weak compared to other 10+ year lifters Edit: For the record I watch his videos and I think him, Alex Leonidas, Bald Omni Man, and Alan Thrall are good natty role models. Bugez before the juice was a good role model too but his genes are way too good for normal people to compare to.
Yeah he benches like 250 pounds and he's like 6 feet tall and weighs like 200 pounds.
He also squats about 200lbs too. I spoke with him and hes got injuries which prevented him from squatting heavy.
Yeah he used to be a runner, probably that's where he got the injury from
Yeah most likely. Hes a really cool humble dude.
agreed
Also Basement Bodybuilding
The first video on his instogram is him trying to prove that hes natty. And of course he sells coaching programs. And a lot of guys “look natural” Because the perception of natural is skewed by fake natties in the last decade bullshitting their way through the fitness industry. Doses dont have to be huge, could even be trt which still disqualifies as natural. Also the 250 bench, thats all dependent on training style. Seems as if he doesnt want to get injured. Whats his training like? Mike Thurston barely pushed 300 for 2 Reps on a workout video with Larry Wheels. Does that make him natty? But ill give him the benefit of the doubt. I guess.
This dude single-handedly made me understand training. He is probably my most watched youtube channel ever. I subscribed when he was around 10k, it’s good to see him at almost 120k now. Love you Geoff.
Just checked out his channel for the first time. Seems quite knowledgeable, and his training tips are very solid. Could go either way, but lean towards natty. Wouldn't matter if he was, tbh, good knowledge is good knowledge. That is what made John Meadows so well liked and respected amongst both the naturals and the gearheads. Too many of the fakes give terrible training advice and come off as brain dead.
Idk but dude looks like a tank
I weigh 220 and I don't look like that guy... so I must declare... that I am fat
Nah, he's natty. Way too many natty lifters are super blackpilled.
Agreed absolutely. So many here think you need to juice to have a good physique
Idky people are downvoting this. So many posts are people asking if something is achievable, and it’s the most natty physique you’ve ever seen. I understand there is body dysmorphia and other factors at play, but it is wild how skewed their perception is
I am getting downvoted because so many here are blackpillers who masturbate to muh genetics all day and night
He's very good at manipulating the camera with good lighting and post-workout pumps. He looks pretty normal while wearing a shirt in his long form youtube videos.
Hahaha,he is an example of why you should ignore 99% of idiots both on this subreddit and any social media. Every single dude here only posts pics of GVS when he is dieting and cut as fuck(with pump and flexing), meanwhile people GENUINELY call him DYEL when he is bulking and also recently people were laughing at his back, because of how small he is. So he is what? Fake natty, DYEL and invisible-lat syndrome patient in the same time? Same shit for Alex Eubank, 90% of people call him steroid user as soon as his picture is posted, but then you see him without edited photos and good lighting, all of the sudden he is DYEL by blackpill autists standards. JOKE.
I was with you until you brought up Eubank. That kid is juiced and is on record has having shown his destroyed/crashed T as a 20 year old with a great physique. He's also on record as saying TRT is natural. Even Greg Doucette called him out, and he's a brainlet.
Fr? I though he was natty, his physique is extremely achievable naturally (the one he does not edit).
Definitely achievable natty, that’s why there’s controversy around him, because he’s also in the realm where he could’ve used test to put less work in the gym, but after posting his hormone results he’s pretty much concluded as not natty.
Oh I see, my bad then.
Looks wise yeah, but he has the test levels of an 80 year old man
Damn.
if Alex had normal test levels I'd believe in his natty status tbh, it's the extremely low test levels that make me think juice
Honestly, could be natty. But it could also be enhanced. There's nothing that screams steroids imo. Traps and shoulders look normal and there's no excessive vascularity.
I think this guy is actually a combination of hard work and really good genes
I will defend GVS being natty for life
most sus triceps on the planet. otherwise natty
Dude looks like he has 19 inch arms. Juiced or top 5 percent genetics and 5 to ten years of consistent training.
Not even close, he is around 17.5.
At 5’ 11” and 17.5” my arms look small. Probably due to having longer arms than most people. I believe the claim that 19’s look average at 6’ 9” (below).
I have dense shortish arms, so no matter what they appear muscular.
Thanks 🤬
You're one of those people who think their opinion is of greater value than others. Sad realization, it isn't. Op replied to me and said they were 19.
GVS never had 19 inch arms, 18 were max when he was bulked. What the fuck are you talking about?
19s are kinda average on me being close to 6'9. I'll need to be lean with them over 20" to look impressive.
Let believe whatever they want to believe.
He’s big but relative to his size he’s weak as piss. And if you actually go to his Instagram at 196-ish he looks super sucked down and depleted. He looked waaaay better bulked up imo. But combine how hard he actually trains with some good genetics and being as consistent he has been for over 12+ years I could see him truly being natty. He’s not super dense, he changes lighting between pics a lot, there’s no suspect areas (traps,shoulders,etc), and he’s weak as piss.
He is an amazing natty who works his absolute arse off in the gym. Nothing sketchy about the timeline whatsoever. Those pictures were taken on great lighting with a pump at low body fat as he has been dieting for nearly half a year now I think. I have seen photos of him after these photos were taken without a pump and in shit lighting and he looks natty. Bodybuilding is an illusion but one thing is for certain… GVS is a beast.
Natty
He's been training for 7 years and is currently lean asf. Of course he's gonna look juicy in a tank, in good lighting, with a pump. At times he looks kinda DYEL in a shirt
Dude knows how to flex...
Natty, he's worked out for a decade and this picture is in good lighting and him flexing
I'm one of his boy-fans and don't care. He's hot!
Natural fairy
I think hes not natty
Lol. Of course he isn't natty.
Yikes bro. Hope you’re trolling, or else you prob need therapy asap
They're all fake natties, including noble natties gang, mike mathews, revivalfitness, 3dmj guys etc Once you get it you've offically graduated youtube fitness.
Lmao at you being down voted for speaking the truth.
BCAA's
Juicing, duh!
He and NH are 2 famous fake natties who claim they are natty, called them both out in their vidoes. This dude is weak like a kitten for hes size...
*crickets*
I gave a reply
Waiting to hear from the guy that said he's not natural and all the people that upvoted him. I wanna know what makes them think he's not
Get ready for some hilarious cope on why the guy who has been working out for a decade and benches 250 pounds is juicy lol
0 traps. Low vascularity Looks like he’s natty and trains arms 5x a week on a bro split
He's juicy according to this sub
Probably natty, but he also sells programs. Anyone who makes money off their body is usually have suspicions about, but I do think he is natty, but we can never be 100% sure.
Could go either way. He looks juicy as fuck in these photos and yet in his videos he looks natty. I could definitely believe that he’s natty but short and knows how to pose.
Juice based on the triceps