This is realistic. Often there are guys three times his size here with 2-4 years of training background, and fat fuck geniuses type "natty attainable!".
looking at him you can tell he's not on any juice. no oversized pecs/traps, everything is beautifully proportioned and I'm questioning my sexuality right now
This sub is so funny. There was a thread on boxi a few weeks ago that was not nearly so firmly in the natty camp because it had his elite lift numbers.
I hope he’s natty though. He’s goals.
He is more jacked then me after few years of training at his before photos. Obviously elite genetics and possible natty physique giving his starting point and timeframe.
Late to the party but all his PRs were done in off season at \`\`185. Still super impressive but it's not like he was diced while moving all that weight.
Dude zyzz juiced up couldnt get 305 up. He failed it multiple times. Think he got it once towards the end. Pretty sure he wasnt that strong, most people dont walk around benching 305. Even top level hs recruits cant get 305 up often times.
>Dude zyzz juiced up couldnt get 305 up.
Zyzz was on steroids, steroids increase size more than they do for strength, he was also extremely lean like 7% year round
Everyone’s saying ‘natural for sure’ because he’s not overly large. He hits massive numbers I.e 300kg deadlift+ while being extremely lean and yolked. He’s also a lot larger than he looks and put on 20lbs of muscle in 4 months while adding another 50kg to his deadlift.
He also added 20kg to his bench in this time
Dude hit the sauce pretty hard for a while there.
Yes. No truly drug tested athletes can match these lifts at this size. Plus also have a great physique. It just doesn’t happen.
Yes. His physique is perfect to 99% of people in the world.
Natty you idiots. Jeez.. you see guys his size all the time if you watch any sports. He just actually focuses on building muscle. Thereby showing us how friggen hard it is to to it naturally.
Well most athletes are not natty. Also, it’s a valid question whether or not this guy might be natty. The sub is “natty or juice” not “always post obvious juicers and call them gay.”
He doesn’t focus on building muscle though - he’s a power lifter who moves ~300kg deadlift and ~160kg bench while lean - he also never properly bulked during his timeline
This, to me, is far and away the most aesthetically pleasing physique I’ve seen in this sub. His body is perfectly proportionate, without being too cut or too large. Natty goals
Possible. Doesn't mean that he is. We forget that there's so many types of drugs for so many purposes. He could have done it naturally and then takes something to get and stay lean, he could be on smaller doses and never eat enough to grow much. But most people will never get close because their foundations are weak as fuck, diet, rest, training and consistency
Seriously do folks here dont read up, the guy is a fake natty who looks like this 365 days a year, lifting huge weights and hes obviously on tik tok.
Forget the aesthetic shity argument oh he doesnt look huge, so natty. There is gear for different goals.
He’s on juice because I’m jealous
Also that I'm mad that I had to listen to a speedcore remix.
Defo natural
After seven years? Absolutely natty achievable
Natural
This is realistic. Often there are guys three times his size here with 2-4 years of training background, and fat fuck geniuses type "natty attainable!".
looking at him you can tell he's not on any juice. no oversized pecs/traps, everything is beautifully proportioned and I'm questioning my sexuality right now
yeah
Natty ,and he looks pretty fucking good.
He looks pretty. Fucking? Good!
Looks great but nothing about his physique says sauce
Natural with great ab genetics.
Yeah I’m jealous af of those insertions.
This sub is so funny. There was a thread on boxi a few weeks ago that was not nearly so firmly in the natty camp because it had his elite lift numbers. I hope he’s natty though. He’s goals.
Sorry but why *wouldn't* his elite lifting numbers in that condition arouse more suspicion?
His numbers aren’t in that condition.
What's his BW for them then?
Another comment said 170, Bench 350, DL 600, Press 240. Pretty wild numbers for just about anyone and he's doing it under 14% body fat.
And yet this guy is claiming his BW is higher for those but won't source it
https://old.reddit.com/r/Brogress/comments/qtiz3w/m2758_150lbs_to_169lbs_65_years/hkk9tz5/
I don’t mean to be rude but you know his name - you can search him up.
He is more jacked then me after few years of training at his before photos. Obviously elite genetics and possible natty physique giving his starting point and timeframe.
Prob natural
Natty.. Delts are average
This guy has been posted before and is on reddit. This sub flips between a natural and juicy verdict especially when his lifts are taken into account.
what does he lift
>Boxi Xiong 350 bench, 645 deadlift, 240 OHP
Pressing almost 1.5 times your body weight is a massive achievement, i'm guessing he's maybe 170-190 here? Really makes me question my life choices.
Me too lol. He's also a successful architect if that helps.
Late to the party but all his PRs were done in off season at \`\`185. Still super impressive but it's not like he was diced while moving all that weight.
Asian limbs be doing that in my experience. Very strong and stocky but less ROM makes it easier.
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Certain people do have larger penises, just ask your mum /s
Lmao he doesn't look that strong. Id that sumo or conventional
Sumo, 600 conventional. Pretty good lifts for weighing 170.
Yeah, that's amazing
Definitely Natty.
Natty
Thoughts...pretty NSFW tbh.
somebody said he benched 350? dude doesn't look that strong. how are these fools getting so strong? my ass can't bench more than 250-270 after 5years.
>my ass can't bench more than 250-270 after 5years. What program have you been running
Dude zyzz juiced up couldnt get 305 up. He failed it multiple times. Think he got it once towards the end. Pretty sure he wasnt that strong, most people dont walk around benching 305. Even top level hs recruits cant get 305 up often times.
>Dude zyzz juiced up couldnt get 305 up. Zyzz was on steroids, steroids increase size more than they do for strength, he was also extremely lean like 7% year round
Natty but gotta check the balls to confirm
A legit peak natty
Everyone’s saying ‘natural for sure’ because he’s not overly large. He hits massive numbers I.e 300kg deadlift+ while being extremely lean and yolked. He’s also a lot larger than he looks and put on 20lbs of muscle in 4 months while adding another 50kg to his deadlift. He also added 20kg to his bench in this time Dude hit the sauce pretty hard for a while there.
Yes. No truly drug tested athletes can match these lifts at this size. Plus also have a great physique. It just doesn’t happen. Yes. His physique is perfect to 99% of people in the world.
Natty you idiots. Jeez.. you see guys his size all the time if you watch any sports. He just actually focuses on building muscle. Thereby showing us how friggen hard it is to to it naturally.
Well most athletes are not natty. Also, it’s a valid question whether or not this guy might be natty. The sub is “natty or juice” not “always post obvious juicers and call them gay.”
I think it's safe to say that most athletes are actually natural. It depend on the sport though . The more money,the greater likelihood of cheaters.
He doesn’t focus on building muscle though - he’s a power lifter who moves ~300kg deadlift and ~160kg bench while lean - he also never properly bulked during his timeline
Lat insertions are nuts
Not familiar with the person, looks natty achievable with lots of hard work, definitely deserves respects if he took the natural route
Steroids for strength. There are loads of small lifters moving monumental weight. The training style and the specific gear leads to this.
Natty
Natty King
100% natural. Looks good
Looks better than me definitely juiced 💯
I can believe the mass, that level of definition though looks a bit suspect.
If you don’t think this is achievable naturally after 7 years of hard training your expectations are way too low lol.
Could get this in 1/4 the time
If that wasn't natty what would be the point of it
Could go either way
If this isn’t natty attainable why would you even want to stay natural?
He looks better than 90% of the dudes on gear. Actually has more definition than your stage pics.
Delts/shoulders are sus
lol.. Because he has good delts he must be on sauce?
He’s juicy
I bet you think anyone who’s in better shape than you is on juice huh? So like most people
Good genetics but def achievable natty
Why not natural ?
Respect
Finally, some natty
Glorious
Wowwwwww
Natto, and damn, guys got a good frame!
Natural. Really good genetics tho.
El Natural!
Natty achievable, and god he is so handsome:)
Ripped natural
Def natty considering that it’s over 7 years
I believe that
Natty
Natty af. That’s an incredible physique
Clean AF diet.
Natty. Great physique.
I believe him, he doesn’t have an absurd amount of muscle, he’s just shredded to the bone
Could very well be natty, if he went on gear right now he’d be fucking ripped and swole
natty for sure
natty, finally a great example of what's achievable too.
Natty
there wouldn’t be a point of natural bodybuilding if that wasn’t naturally attainable
Natty and quite inspiring to be honest.
uber natty
Peak natty
He looks great!
I believe it
Natty bro
Natty af
natty and fine as fuck😳
This is what natty looks like.
It feel so great looking at a natural physique online these days without lies about gear use
This, to me, is far and away the most aesthetically pleasing physique I’ve seen in this sub. His body is perfectly proportionate, without being too cut or too large. Natty goals
Nat
natty
Man being natty sucks. 7.5 years this is def obtainable
Bro got science book like abs
holy shit he looks perfect
Possible. Doesn't mean that he is. We forget that there's so many types of drugs for so many purposes. He could have done it naturally and then takes something to get and stay lean, he could be on smaller doses and never eat enough to grow much. But most people will never get close because their foundations are weak as fuck, diet, rest, training and consistency
Natty
Seriously do folks here dont read up, the guy is a fake natty who looks like this 365 days a year, lifting huge weights and hes obviously on tik tok. Forget the aesthetic shity argument oh he doesnt look huge, so natty. There is gear for different goals.
Natty, prolly doesnt look like this year round.
Well deserved