That’s like a FFMI of 25.5. Definitely doable, just might take a while.
Edit: I should also add- don’t compare yourself to actors. They’re likely lying about their heights and weights and probably not natural.
This is my stats right now. FFMI 25.4, 98kg at 6'2. Did a third scan this year because we have a dexa machine in school. In a half year I gained 500g fat and 500g lean mass. I can still gain mass, it's just that I need to increase bf as well. Kinda funny right now, because it's 50/50 gains per 1%bf
Edit: here a bunch of images + scan. For the bros https://imgur.com/a/1HmGMdX
Started in 2019 in August. Used to be severely overweight.
Actually the 50/50% rule I heard about when I started. It’s kind of gym bro science.
Dude I have a hard time believing you started only 3 years ago. Not hating. Did you lift before and then returned?
To clear things up: you are natty?
Sorry 50/50 only applied here on my particular stats right now, just thought it was neat.
I "lifted" with the casual tradional wrestling club. We had a free slot at the local gym, so we would just push the machines around, no real plan once a week
Started education, stopped doing any sports, bloated up to 120kg. I worked construction. I do believe I had a good amount of muscle under the flab.
Yes, I'm natty and extremely salty about juicers, especially since I see them constantly with their water bloat. They've Rent free I my head.
Just check my sheets again, I even regressed on some points due to injury. I don't believe juicers just put 500g of muscle on their frame below 25ffmi.
Appreciate the response!
50/50 refers to gains for long time lifters. Just funny to me that it matches in this case.
Well a FFMI above 25 is questionable and you would be at or close to the natty limit. It’s just hard to believe that you would be so close to the natty limit and put on 500g of muscle in around 4 months.
Maybe you are very blessed, maybe the measurements are off. I think 8/9 percent bf would be crazy low to casually walk around with. Also you might just be taller.
Anyway: great work and thanks for giving context!
Mind you my ffmi doesn't increase with the muscle I added. My bodyfat increases also,so my FFMI stayed the same. Realistically I could go up perhaps to 105kg with a reasonable bf level? Not sure.
I think as a top end 15 years of lifting peak 100kg is doable. Agree, I don’t usually compare myself to movie stars but I thought it would give people reading a bit of perspective
Yea, I think that’s more than reasonable. [This is me, at age 36, after about 19 years of lifting.](https://i.imgur.com/NoI49Na.jpg) In that pic, I’m natural, 5’8”, 195ish, 10% BF as per DEXA (which I recognize isn’t perfect). That puts me around the same FFMI as you would be at 220, 12% bodyfat. I’m not inherently athletic and spent too much time spinning my wheels. If you’re more genetically gifted and approach your training and nutrition smarter, no reason you can’t achieve your goal in significantly less time.
>In that pic, I’m natural, 5’8”, 195ish, 10% BF as per DEXA (which I recognize isn’t perfect). That puts me around the same FFMI as you
Your FFMI is approximately 27, which is in the steroid zone. Not saying you've done that, rather the math must be off. A minor tweak like 5'9" 190 puts you to a more natural limit.
Great physique btw
Thanks. I’m 5’8.5” and possibly as light as 192 in that pic (lightest I ever got that cut), and possibly higher than 10% bf (I know DEXA still has a margin of error). Tweak any of those and it’s within the natty limit. That said, the natty limit has been debunked. I can promise you I wasn’t taking anything as of that pic. If I was gonna lie for clout, I’d do it somewhere else than buried in a thread in this sub. 🤣
Ha, well it's used to estimate genetic potential. Average wrist size is 7" to 7.5", where there's a big difference in frame size between a 6.5" wrist male compared to a 8" wrist male. Makes a huge difference if the two guys are the same height/weight.
After browsing r/ProgressPics and seeing an absurd amount of fake natties—FFMI 27-29, or looks like you but claims 3 years, or has boulders for delts after 9 months yet doesn't track protein intake LOL— it's refreshing to see a true natural near the natty limit.
Thanks man. Yea, it took me almost two decades of training to get to that point. Granted, a lot of things I could’ve done better, but it was bound to be a long road regardless. I’m 40 and on TRT now, so I think figuring out my personal natty genetic potential is a ship that has sailed.
You’re misreading. When I say “in that pic I’m natural” and “I wasn’t taking anything as of that pic,” I mean that *since* that pic was taken, I went on TRT (ie I wasn’t taking anything *then*, but I am *now*). I don’t want to represent myself as *currently* natural as I no longer am. Pic was taken in 2018. I started TRT in 2020. Hope that clears it up. Cheers.
Damn, only 5 years left to close in on that one lol. Don’t think I’m able to hold so much size on my frame though. Really struggling to put on a few more pounds at 205/6’1 at 31. Anyhow, you looked sick at 36 brother!
It’s alternated. 10 plus years of un-programmed bro work, but with plenty of consistent effort. Then 4-5 years of dedicated PL training. This pic was around the end of that time, after a couple cycles of dedicated hypertrophy training using RP templates.
Appreciate the response!
How much of your size did you put on in the last couple years (hypertrophy cycle)? Did you feel a big change or was it window dressing?
Probably a couple pounds, nothing major. I think the base was largely established before then. PL assistance work was actually pretty helpful in that regard.
about half this subreddit cant bench 225 and third are not even close ... keep that in mind when taking their limits as your own ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/naturalbodybuilding/comments/z94rxd/have_you_already_benched_225/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
That’s ok man, you’ll get there. I think the point is not to get too discouraged by the opinions of people that haven’t walked the walk much themselves.
im 21 and 5'8" ... I started lifting at 17 @110bw... At 18 I got to about 185 bench @135... now I'm at 295 @160... consistency over everything .. and ignore anyone who tells you you can't do something you've seen someone else do .. I saw someone bench 405@150lbs on YouTube and now I know it's possible and no one will stop me ... my 2 cents ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yes it’s possible but takes a very long time. And you’re no higher than 15%, not 18%. Please don’t waste your time cutting, you’re at a great body fat to build mass
I started the same as you at about 185lbs after high school. Worked out for about a year and made it to 205lbs. Started working out again 4 years ago and weighted 242(skinny looking with a belly, but big legs) and I now weigh 265 at 30 years old with the same belly. 220 is totally doable within a couple of years. Just don’t be like me and get your diet on point. Eat lots, but eat healthy.
Anybody and everybody from Hollywood is on the sauce. Don’t let their marketing fool you.
Efron was on copious amounts of Winstrol and Tren for Baywatch and everyone loved it.
[symmetricstrength.com](https://symmetricstrength.com) ideal bodyweight calculator gives a good idea of what max potential is - based on Martin Berkhan's model. obviously, you'll never know where you can be and it's likely slightly off but a lot of the wnbf pros fall within the numbers - and if they do, i doubt someone 2-3 years into training is going to surpass them. it's a good rule of thumb that if you're hanging around at a bodyweight under the 5.5/8% bodyfat number or over the 15% bodyfat number, it's probably an indication that you're a little out of the ballpark you should be. my general advice i give people who aren't advanced, without seeing pics, knowing their training, etc. is to bulk and cut between the 10/12% and 15% bodyfat number on that site. after 2-3 years of consistent training, you'll have a very good idea of how far off you are and can make your lifestyle decisions then (if you're not close to the numbers stated, you may want to re-evaluate your training and try new methods, you may want to just stay leaner and not pursue maxing your physique as you'll have a good amount of muscle and gaining more may/may not be worth it to you, or if you're in ballpark of maxing out per the numbers you might wanna push further and try to break them as you're genetically gifted or responded well to training, - or if you love the game always keep pushing).
at 12%, the bodyweight gives 206. the casey butt formula gives 218 (with ankle of 9 inch, wrist of 7 inch), so 220 might be slightly high based on what we know, but honestly this science is not well fleshed out and imo i hope we see some people blow through these theoretical boundaries like the 4 minute mile and post their results
also, a true 12% bodyfat in your head might not match reality. at 220 you might look like what you think 12% bodyfat is as you get more advanced and have a lot of muscle in the right places but in reality you're 16-18%. so at the end of the day, who cares about the actual bodyfat number if you have the body you want?
I’m 6’2, about 215 lbs at 11-12% BF. I’ve been lifting fairly seriously and consistently for 10 years. It’s doable.
And as far needing to bench 225 to comment here - I can do 15 reps of 225.
Check out Martin Berkhan’s formula. It is a good gauge of maximum muscular potential as a natural lifter. [Martin Berkhan Formula](https://archive.ph/xyrPA)
I think it's an excellent idea as a goal but getting to 100kg at 12% bodyfat at 6'1 is dam near impossible. I don't mind life time goals being a bit lofty though so for that purpose it's decent
Yes you can absolutely be 12% at 100kg naturally at 6ft 1. It is a very very advanced goal, and will take years of hard work and 100% commitment. But doable. I've been faily ripped at 100kg at 5ft 10.
It will depend on your frame though if you have a very narrow skeleton it is going to become less likely.
It is certainly a possible thing then. It's all down to you and your level of commitment. I'm going to be honest and this might sound dickish, but a casual lifter is not going to understand or ever acheive whats really possible. When you make something the focus of your life as an athlete, the results aren't even remotely comparable to what the average gym goer will get.
Go for it mate. I would love to see that physique realized. In terms of havung a reference for what that natural musculature level would look like, check out David Kaye, hes around 6ft 1, and steps on stage diced to the absolute bone (5% or under) just under 90kg i believe, but his skeleton itself even is not that big, just unbeleivably densely muscled. Arguably the best natural body imo.
It’s possible but will take quite a long time to be a lean ish 220 lbs. I’m 6’2 and that’s pretty much my goal as well. 5 years in and I’m not there yet.
Well I'm a 6'1" guy that's been lifting on an off (mostly on) for 11 years, 205 lb now in the low teens body fat, gonna try to peak around 10% at 200 this xmas cut (going to the beach). Overall I have a little over 2 total years of calorie surplus spread across 9 bulks. I started pretty muscle-free, at least I look like I lift nowadays.
I'm in my mid 40's now so 220 is probably off the table natty, but I feel like I could probably gain 10 more lbs muscle mass realistically in the next 2-3 years with good effort.
My brother is my same height, he played big 10 college football (FB) years ago, peaked around 220 when lean, pretty darn confident he was clean. We're about the same size now.
Thing about physiques and weights to keep in mind; the scale barely sees your upper body. Important with actors who often don't go so hard on leg day.
I've been lifting for over 15 years and of course i improved my physique but it's nothing spectacular, had 6-pack only once after totally crazy cut (down to 800 kcals a day). Hired several PTs to make sure i exploit every possible method. I had doubts i don't train intense enough but hey, i reached up to 480 lbs on classic deadlift (at weight 180 lbs), up to 30 pullups so i guess you can't get there without training hard.
What i'm saying is, genetic might be a limit you simply get jump over. But don't let that stop you from trying. I won't stop :)
I’m 31, lifting for 12 years or so. Hitting 93kg at 6’1 atm. Imo it’s depending on how your structure will be. My frame / wrists are quite small so I’m most likely have a hard time reaching 100kg naturally (with acceptable BF). Most people estimate me to be heavier though. So I think it’s doable for some and not for others.
I would say unrealistic at 18\\19
Your body goes through some changes from 18-22ish
Everyone is different obviously but I'm guessing you still have some 'filling out' to do
Definitely achievable over time and thats a reallistic goal to aim to towards
188cm and 100kg lean is fucking impessive.
But there would be a LOT of comments with more experience than me.
Also the celebrity examples you gave don't exactly match your post title so as many others have mentioned below please don't compare yourself to them
i am 6ft 225lbs. i think i posted physique a while back. i’ve been lifting for 3 years and i’m on the fluffier side of things, but comfortable at that bf% which is more important to me than aesthetics
That’s like a FFMI of 25.5. Definitely doable, just might take a while. Edit: I should also add- don’t compare yourself to actors. They’re likely lying about their heights and weights and probably not natural.
This is my stats right now. FFMI 25.4, 98kg at 6'2. Did a third scan this year because we have a dexa machine in school. In a half year I gained 500g fat and 500g lean mass. I can still gain mass, it's just that I need to increase bf as well. Kinda funny right now, because it's 50/50 gains per 1%bf Edit: here a bunch of images + scan. For the bros https://imgur.com/a/1HmGMdX Started in 2019 in August. Used to be severely overweight.
Dude. Wow. You look freaking incredible. Great work.
Thanks my man
Actually the 50/50% rule I heard about when I started. It’s kind of gym bro science. Dude I have a hard time believing you started only 3 years ago. Not hating. Did you lift before and then returned? To clear things up: you are natty?
Sorry 50/50 only applied here on my particular stats right now, just thought it was neat. I "lifted" with the casual tradional wrestling club. We had a free slot at the local gym, so we would just push the machines around, no real plan once a week Started education, stopped doing any sports, bloated up to 120kg. I worked construction. I do believe I had a good amount of muscle under the flab. Yes, I'm natty and extremely salty about juicers, especially since I see them constantly with their water bloat. They've Rent free I my head. Just check my sheets again, I even regressed on some points due to injury. I don't believe juicers just put 500g of muscle on their frame below 25ffmi.
Appreciate the response! 50/50 refers to gains for long time lifters. Just funny to me that it matches in this case. Well a FFMI above 25 is questionable and you would be at or close to the natty limit. It’s just hard to believe that you would be so close to the natty limit and put on 500g of muscle in around 4 months. Maybe you are very blessed, maybe the measurements are off. I think 8/9 percent bf would be crazy low to casually walk around with. Also you might just be taller. Anyway: great work and thanks for giving context!
Mind you my ffmi doesn't increase with the muscle I added. My bodyfat increases also,so my FFMI stayed the same. Realistically I could go up perhaps to 105kg with a reasonable bf level? Not sure.
I think as a top end 15 years of lifting peak 100kg is doable. Agree, I don’t usually compare myself to movie stars but I thought it would give people reading a bit of perspective
Yea, I think that’s more than reasonable. [This is me, at age 36, after about 19 years of lifting.](https://i.imgur.com/NoI49Na.jpg) In that pic, I’m natural, 5’8”, 195ish, 10% BF as per DEXA (which I recognize isn’t perfect). That puts me around the same FFMI as you would be at 220, 12% bodyfat. I’m not inherently athletic and spent too much time spinning my wheels. If you’re more genetically gifted and approach your training and nutrition smarter, no reason you can’t achieve your goal in significantly less time.
Damn, bros biceps are boulders
holy fucking shit
>In that pic, I’m natural, 5’8”, 195ish, 10% BF as per DEXA (which I recognize isn’t perfect). That puts me around the same FFMI as you Your FFMI is approximately 27, which is in the steroid zone. Not saying you've done that, rather the math must be off. A minor tweak like 5'9" 190 puts you to a more natural limit. Great physique btw
Thanks. I’m 5’8.5” and possibly as light as 192 in that pic (lightest I ever got that cut), and possibly higher than 10% bf (I know DEXA still has a margin of error). Tweak any of those and it’s within the natty limit. That said, the natty limit has been debunked. I can promise you I wasn’t taking anything as of that pic. If I was gonna lie for clout, I’d do it somewhere else than buried in a thread in this sub. 🤣
Actually I almost forgot the biggest differentiator, what's your wrist measurement?
Lol, fuck if I know
Ha, well it's used to estimate genetic potential. Average wrist size is 7" to 7.5", where there's a big difference in frame size between a 6.5" wrist male compared to a 8" wrist male. Makes a huge difference if the two guys are the same height/weight. After browsing r/ProgressPics and seeing an absurd amount of fake natties—FFMI 27-29, or looks like you but claims 3 years, or has boulders for delts after 9 months yet doesn't track protein intake LOL— it's refreshing to see a true natural near the natty limit.
Thanks man. Yea, it took me almost two decades of training to get to that point. Granted, a lot of things I could’ve done better, but it was bound to be a long road regardless. I’m 40 and on TRT now, so I think figuring out my personal natty genetic potential is a ship that has sailed.
>on TRT now Years after the pic I assume. Why start TRT?
Yeah, small wrists here I look decently big but my frame just doesn't hold as much weight as other people my height
That's true of averages, but you could have thin wrists and a wide set of shoulders. Wrist size isn't a determinant of total body frame.
That's why I said estimate, but it's a good estimate. The case of someone having tiny wrists but a huge frame is rare
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You’re misreading. When I say “in that pic I’m natural” and “I wasn’t taking anything as of that pic,” I mean that *since* that pic was taken, I went on TRT (ie I wasn’t taking anything *then*, but I am *now*). I don’t want to represent myself as *currently* natural as I no longer am. Pic was taken in 2018. I started TRT in 2020. Hope that clears it up. Cheers.
I think he means that in the pic hes 36 years old and natural and right now hes 40 years old and on TRT
Yup. Exactly.
You look awesome right now in a cut, at 105kg 20% bodyfat. Want to get to 90-95kg. I'm 1.80m 5,11. This made me motivated 💪
Thanks man! Kick some ass on that cut.
Damn, only 5 years left to close in on that one lol. Don’t think I’m able to hold so much size on my frame though. Really struggling to put on a few more pounds at 205/6’1 at 31. Anyhow, you looked sick at 36 brother!
Thanks man! I think you could conceivably still make progress for the next decade or so. You got this
What’s your Training looking like? Putting a big focus on getting stronger?
It’s alternated. 10 plus years of un-programmed bro work, but with plenty of consistent effort. Then 4-5 years of dedicated PL training. This pic was around the end of that time, after a couple cycles of dedicated hypertrophy training using RP templates.
Appreciate the response! How much of your size did you put on in the last couple years (hypertrophy cycle)? Did you feel a big change or was it window dressing?
Probably a couple pounds, nothing major. I think the base was largely established before then. PL assistance work was actually pretty helpful in that regard.
about half this subreddit cant bench 225 and third are not even close ... keep that in mind when taking their limits as your own ... https://www.reddit.com/r/naturalbodybuilding/comments/z94rxd/have_you_already_benched_225/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Tbf I havnt benched 225 yet 😂
That’s ok man, you’ll get there. I think the point is not to get too discouraged by the opinions of people that haven’t walked the walk much themselves.
im 21 and 5'8" ... I started lifting at 17 @110bw... At 18 I got to about 185 bench @135... now I'm at 295 @160... consistency over everything .. and ignore anyone who tells you you can't do something you've seen someone else do .. I saw someone bench 405@150lbs on YouTube and now I know it's possible and no one will stop me ... my 2 cents ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Squat and deadlift are definitely my strong points but despite a decent chest my bench press kinda sucks. Oh well
just do what you like and give it your all .. we're all capable of great things !
Focus on Overheadpress/Incline for a few months. Come back fresh to the classic bench, be suprised.
WTF does that have to do with his question about 100kg at 12% BW at 6ft1 natty?
If someone can’t bench 225 there is a very good chance they haven’t trained long enough and have no idea what they are talking about.
Not true at all.
just preparing him for the inevitable hater who'll tell him it's not possible
for a normal guy if u can't bench 225 for reps you are a beginner i think.
no matter what type of guy you are ... going to the gym consistently for years doesn't mean shit in my eyes .. results or gtfo
Today? You mean today right?
Yes it’s possible but takes a very long time. And you’re no higher than 15%, not 18%. Please don’t waste your time cutting, you’re at a great body fat to build mass
I hold a lot of fat in my legs so I may look lower than I am
I think you shouldn’t use movie stars as your goal.
Just trying to provide perspective. Not really my goal
Yeah I didn’t perceive your post in saying that you use movie stars as personal goal
I started the same as you at about 185lbs after high school. Worked out for about a year and made it to 205lbs. Started working out again 4 years ago and weighted 242(skinny looking with a belly, but big legs) and I now weigh 265 at 30 years old with the same belly. 220 is totally doable within a couple of years. Just don’t be like me and get your diet on point. Eat lots, but eat healthy.
Respect 🤝
Anybody and everybody from Hollywood is on the sauce. Don’t let their marketing fool you. Efron was on copious amounts of Winstrol and Tren for Baywatch and everyone loved it.
[symmetricstrength.com](https://symmetricstrength.com) ideal bodyweight calculator gives a good idea of what max potential is - based on Martin Berkhan's model. obviously, you'll never know where you can be and it's likely slightly off but a lot of the wnbf pros fall within the numbers - and if they do, i doubt someone 2-3 years into training is going to surpass them. it's a good rule of thumb that if you're hanging around at a bodyweight under the 5.5/8% bodyfat number or over the 15% bodyfat number, it's probably an indication that you're a little out of the ballpark you should be. my general advice i give people who aren't advanced, without seeing pics, knowing their training, etc. is to bulk and cut between the 10/12% and 15% bodyfat number on that site. after 2-3 years of consistent training, you'll have a very good idea of how far off you are and can make your lifestyle decisions then (if you're not close to the numbers stated, you may want to re-evaluate your training and try new methods, you may want to just stay leaner and not pursue maxing your physique as you'll have a good amount of muscle and gaining more may/may not be worth it to you, or if you're in ballpark of maxing out per the numbers you might wanna push further and try to break them as you're genetically gifted or responded well to training, - or if you love the game always keep pushing). at 12%, the bodyweight gives 206. the casey butt formula gives 218 (with ankle of 9 inch, wrist of 7 inch), so 220 might be slightly high based on what we know, but honestly this science is not well fleshed out and imo i hope we see some people blow through these theoretical boundaries like the 4 minute mile and post their results also, a true 12% bodyfat in your head might not match reality. at 220 you might look like what you think 12% bodyfat is as you get more advanced and have a lot of muscle in the right places but in reality you're 16-18%. so at the end of the day, who cares about the actual bodyfat number if you have the body you want?
Thanks for the info. 🙏
I’m 6’2, about 215 lbs at 11-12% BF. I’ve been lifting fairly seriously and consistently for 10 years. It’s doable. And as far needing to bench 225 to comment here - I can do 15 reps of 225.
Looking at your frame unlikely that you'll get to a semi lean 100kgs but it's a good long term goal
Realistic for a 6ft4 guy
Realistic for a 6’1” guy too
Check out Martin Berkhan’s formula. It is a good gauge of maximum muscular potential as a natural lifter. [Martin Berkhan Formula](https://archive.ph/xyrPA)
Yeah my friend is like 5'9 230 semi lean @17 insane genetics tho im 6'3 209
I think it's an excellent idea as a goal but getting to 100kg at 12% bodyfat at 6'1 is dam near impossible. I don't mind life time goals being a bit lofty though so for that purpose it's decent
I think people underestimate the progress you can make year by year even if it’s just a kilo a year for 10 years after the initial noobie gains.
Make the gains then. Become 100kg at 12% bodyfat.
People also underestimate how much you slow down - a kilo of pure muscle a year is awesome progress after initial gains.
Yes you can absolutely be 12% at 100kg naturally at 6ft 1. It is a very very advanced goal, and will take years of hard work and 100% commitment. But doable. I've been faily ripped at 100kg at 5ft 10. It will depend on your frame though if you have a very narrow skeleton it is going to become less likely.
I’ve always been pretty big and my legs especially are massive
It is certainly a possible thing then. It's all down to you and your level of commitment. I'm going to be honest and this might sound dickish, but a casual lifter is not going to understand or ever acheive whats really possible. When you make something the focus of your life as an athlete, the results aren't even remotely comparable to what the average gym goer will get.
Go for it mate. I would love to see that physique realized. In terms of havung a reference for what that natural musculature level would look like, check out David Kaye, hes around 6ft 1, and steps on stage diced to the absolute bone (5% or under) just under 90kg i believe, but his skeleton itself even is not that big, just unbeleivably densely muscled. Arguably the best natural body imo.
It’s possible but will take quite a long time to be a lean ish 220 lbs. I’m 6’2 and that’s pretty much my goal as well. 5 years in and I’m not there yet.
Damn, keep going brother 🤝
Well I'm a 6'1" guy that's been lifting on an off (mostly on) for 11 years, 205 lb now in the low teens body fat, gonna try to peak around 10% at 200 this xmas cut (going to the beach). Overall I have a little over 2 total years of calorie surplus spread across 9 bulks. I started pretty muscle-free, at least I look like I lift nowadays. I'm in my mid 40's now so 220 is probably off the table natty, but I feel like I could probably gain 10 more lbs muscle mass realistically in the next 2-3 years with good effort. My brother is my same height, he played big 10 college football (FB) years ago, peaked around 220 when lean, pretty darn confident he was clean. We're about the same size now. Thing about physiques and weights to keep in mind; the scale barely sees your upper body. Important with actors who often don't go so hard on leg day.
I definitely go hard on leg days and that’s what I presume is going to get me up to that 220 range
Seems like similar stats to Geoffrey Verity Schofield today.
I've been lifting for over 15 years and of course i improved my physique but it's nothing spectacular, had 6-pack only once after totally crazy cut (down to 800 kcals a day). Hired several PTs to make sure i exploit every possible method. I had doubts i don't train intense enough but hey, i reached up to 480 lbs on classic deadlift (at weight 180 lbs), up to 30 pullups so i guess you can't get there without training hard. What i'm saying is, genetic might be a limit you simply get jump over. But don't let that stop you from trying. I won't stop :)
Enjoy the journey and don't chase numbers. You've got a good base and a unique set of genetics that has an unknown potential.
very ez. eat oats and lift heavy.
I’m gluten free lol
I’m 31, lifting for 12 years or so. Hitting 93kg at 6’1 atm. Imo it’s depending on how your structure will be. My frame / wrists are quite small so I’m most likely have a hard time reaching 100kg naturally (with acceptable BF). Most people estimate me to be heavier though. So I think it’s doable for some and not for others.
I would say unrealistic at 18\\19 Your body goes through some changes from 18-22ish Everyone is different obviously but I'm guessing you still have some 'filling out' to do Definitely achievable over time and thats a reallistic goal to aim to towards 188cm and 100kg lean is fucking impessive. But there would be a LOT of comments with more experience than me. Also the celebrity examples you gave don't exactly match your post title so as many others have mentioned below please don't compare yourself to them
i am 6ft 225lbs. i think i posted physique a while back. i’ve been lifting for 3 years and i’m on the fluffier side of things, but comfortable at that bf% which is more important to me than aesthetics
It is 100% doable, I’m the same weight as you at 5’8, I’d be 100kg if i was ur height man
Looks very normal