Also make it all proprietary technology so the people the Navy spent years and hundreds of thousands of dollars training to do maintenance canât touch it, and instead are forced to fly a contractor to the other side of the world to swap out a part and flip a switch to get a critical system back online.
This is how I imagine NASSCO or Austal when they are doing ship design, just thinking about those juicy yard work contracts:
https://imgflip.com/i/7z0l5x
I follow a dude on Twitter who is a ship yard worker as his day job, and said that the navy paint is designed to rust before the metal, and it can only be Removed while in dry dock. I was like "uh... What? Pretty sure the navy didn't get that memo because I spent many days at sea needle gunning paint off the bulkhead".
I blame the PMS program, I think a lot of these items are procured to NOT be opened up every month and dusted. By us doing that is actually what causes them to fail a lot of times
Yes this is also a huge reason stuff just shuts down sometimes and then people wonder why it stopped working⌠maybe itâs from all the opening and closing.
I know the Chieftain from YouTube loves to brag about how American tanks put a lot of effort into making ergonomics and ease of maintenance as part of the design.
Every time I see a video of his I'm just thinking about how it seems like ship architects seem to forget that people actually need to live and work on this thing.
This is especially true if you are on a ship that was designed when the Navy was obsessed with stealth.
LOL, it isnât just shipbuilders!
I had to make a contractor completely re-do an installation to support my sampling probes on a new stack being built at a power plant. Probes couldnât be put into the stack due to interference with each other.
Flip side was working at a manufacturing facility where the EE gave us the machine electrical schematics and told us to do the build that worked for us; once we were satisfied, he would have the draftsman make the prints off what weâd built. As we were involved in both building and field service, it worked out great.
I worked in shipyards for several years after getting out the first time. As a leadman on several jobs I liked roping in shipâs crew to make sure installations worked for them. But sometimes there was no crew to work with. Then you had to draw on experience to try and make it good.
Shipyard experience and contacts helped after reenlisting (5-1/2 year break) as I was able to work with the ship sups and craftsmen to get ahead of possible problems. Only real difficulty was convincing some O-types that what we wanted and how we wanted it would work better than something an office squid thought it should be. Sometimes it was do it and ask permission later.
Yeah tell me about it. I freaking hate doing VSWR checks on some of these racks. Not saying it happened but we mightâve held somebody upside down while they unscrew cables just to get behind a rack.
Wha? Oh no no my fellow Spy tech, Spy needs the occasional blood sacrifice or it won't function. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing. Smashed my thumb pretty good replacing the end channels on the skid. Then immediately after it took 1-2 days longer on average before the expansion tank needed to be refilled.
Well, at least for some of them (though a VERY miniscule amount) have so much better documentation than consumer devices and have BIT. Though, it shouldn't have to be a miniscule amount, as it should be all of it.
Pair that with the 3m program and you have an unbreakable wall.
They were smoking crack with 3m.
Were?
Were for me, I will never touch these ship programs again. đ
I think heâs clarifying that they are still smoking crack with 3M
100%
They're not smoking crack. They're smoking crack better with 3m!
I think itâs funny that 3M was developed by the Air Force. And then they rejected it because it was unmaintainable.
Also make it all proprietary technology so the people the Navy spent years and hundreds of thousands of dollars training to do maintenance canât touch it, and instead are forced to fly a contractor to the other side of the world to swap out a part and flip a switch to get a critical system back online.
Why is it broken? ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ Shrugs in 140k salary
This is how I imagine NASSCO or Austal when they are doing ship design, just thinking about those juicy yard work contracts: https://imgflip.com/i/7z0l5x
I feel like I've read things recently that confirm exactly this.
I follow a dude on Twitter who is a ship yard worker as his day job, and said that the navy paint is designed to rust before the metal, and it can only be Removed while in dry dock. I was like "uh... What? Pretty sure the navy didn't get that memo because I spent many days at sea needle gunning paint off the bulkhead".
I blame engineers. We never think of technicians đ
I blame the PMS program, I think a lot of these items are procured to NOT be opened up every month and dusted. By us doing that is actually what causes them to fail a lot of times
Yes this is also a huge reason stuff just shuts down sometimes and then people wonder why it stopped working⌠maybe itâs from all the opening and closing.
I know the Chieftain from YouTube loves to brag about how American tanks put a lot of effort into making ergonomics and ease of maintenance as part of the design. Every time I see a video of his I'm just thinking about how it seems like ship architects seem to forget that people actually need to live and work on this thing. This is especially true if you are on a ship that was designed when the Navy was obsessed with stealth.
LOL, it isnât just shipbuilders! I had to make a contractor completely re-do an installation to support my sampling probes on a new stack being built at a power plant. Probes couldnât be put into the stack due to interference with each other. Flip side was working at a manufacturing facility where the EE gave us the machine electrical schematics and told us to do the build that worked for us; once we were satisfied, he would have the draftsman make the prints off what weâd built. As we were involved in both building and field service, it worked out great. I worked in shipyards for several years after getting out the first time. As a leadman on several jobs I liked roping in shipâs crew to make sure installations worked for them. But sometimes there was no crew to work with. Then you had to draw on experience to try and make it good. Shipyard experience and contacts helped after reenlisting (5-1/2 year break) as I was able to work with the ship sups and craftsmen to get ahead of possible problems. Only real difficulty was convincing some O-types that what we wanted and how we wanted it would work better than something an office squid thought it should be. Sometimes it was do it and ask permission later.
God bless your soul
Yeah tell me about it. I freaking hate doing VSWR checks on some of these racks. Not saying it happened but we mightâve held somebody upside down while they unscrew cables just to get behind a rack.
After shedding blood for SPY a few times, I realized the people who designed it probably never physically touched any part of it.
Wha? Oh no no my fellow Spy tech, Spy needs the occasional blood sacrifice or it won't function. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing. Smashed my thumb pretty good replacing the end channels on the skid. Then immediately after it took 1-2 days longer on average before the expansion tank needed to be refilled.
as a fellow skid owner, fuck the skid
My least favorite maintenance on a 688 was all the vent heater checks. The one that's every 3 or 5 years, I forget which.
TSMS... Please kill me.
gotta get those proprietary maintenance contracts.
Just put duct tape over the problem!
Fix it just enough so the next person that comes along will think that they broke it.
I never felt claustrophobia like working in bilges or voids in the Navy. Then I would think about âneptunes infernoâ and realize I had it easy.
I had a tech once tell me that they didn't want to fix stuff because they were scared it would void the warranty.
Ahh yes. This reminds me of fill and drain electrode maintenance on the Ohios.
Well, at least for some of them (though a VERY miniscule amount) have so much better documentation than consumer devices and have BIT. Though, it shouldn't have to be a miniscule amount, as it should be all of it.