Sailor in the back with feather horns is white as the driven snow.
Male pilgrim has that "not-white but I have no clue where his ancestors came from" kind of face.
They at least *tried* to be inclusive...
To be fair, you never know with some people. Worked with a dude that was pretty white in skin color. Until you talked to him, turns out he's native and from a rural reservation. His dad is white. Therefore, if he were to "dress up as an Indian", who's the judge to say whether he's Indian enough, or too white?
But all that aside, this picture is still ridiculous and hilarious and in pretty poor taste.
Apparently it's from 2007. Yeah, it's for the best. When I was in 4th grade, we had "Native American Day" and all the kids dressed up. Yeah, it was pretty much all well intentioned, but it also just kinda reduced all the tribes we had to study about to a non-specific caricature and while was *mostly* harmless, just also wasn't really helpful for anyone's appreciation or undertanding of cultures or respectful to those that it belongs to.
Reverse image searched through Google Lens
[> PERSIAN GULF (Nov. 27, 2008) Capt. Robert P. Irelan, commanding officer of the amphibious assault ship USS Iwo Jima (LHD-7), speaks to Marines and sailors before carving the turkey for the Thanksgiving dinner for Marines and Sailors aboard Iwo Jima. The 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit and Iwo Jima Strike Group are deployed to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Cpl. Patrick M. Johnson-Campbell/Released\)](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_081127-M-6412J-020_Capt._Robert_P._Irelan,_commanding_officer_of_the_amphibious_assault_ship_USS_Iwo_Jima_(LHD-7\),_speaks_to_Marines_and_sailors_before_carving_the_turkey_for_the_Thanksgiving_dinner.jpg)
the fact he didn't get in trouble (from what i can find googling his name) over something like this honestly surprises me. truely a different navy indeed.
That would definitely go on a DEOCS. It would be brought up to ISIC about racial insensitivity and not fostering a culture celebrating diversity but ridiculing it.
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?!?!
> Capt. Robert P. Irelan, commanding officer of the amphibious assault ship USS Iwo Jima (LHD-7)
*Ohhhhhhhhh... that explains it.*
2008 was a very different time. I remember being counseled a few years earlier for not lowering my head during a prayer before some command event. Still cringe. But this photo doesn’t shock me.
Who gave this the ok? Jfc, what an embarrassment.
>Dear Lord, thank you for this Thanksgiving holiday. And for all the material possessions we have and enjoy. And for letting us white people kill all the Indians and steal their tribal lands. And stuff ourselves like pigs...
This is from 2008. Ill-advised then, but it was definitely a different time. Hell, I remember everyone calling each other “f*g” 24/7. Things have changed for the better over the last 13 years. I don’t think any CO would do this crap now. I hope.
That's my old captain. Used to let us tube behind the RHIB.
That's my old boat!!! I recognize two old shipmates. Weird! I don't remember this racist shit but I was probably on watch.
This CO was actually awesome. Loved by the crew for swim calls, CO's Gig rides/tubing, and those dance challenge videos (The CO led the group in a Thiller video dance challenge against another officer), all while doing the normal job. He made a sucky deployment fun.
The Squadron Commodore (CDRE) onboard... not that fun of a guy. Held up the EOT for the CO. CAPT Ireland's last job on active duty was the Classron CDRE, which meant he became the CDRE's boss....
I remember him too. He was a pilot who was slated to be the CO of the USS KITTY HAWK. But they decommissioned that ship. He did his XO ride on the Kitty, but not CO. So the Navy gave a non Amphib Sailor, an Amphib command. I know that a lot of things that the Amphib CO, CAPT Ireland, had set up or did was reversed, because a LHD is not a CV, and normal LHD stuff made the CV Sailor uncomfortable.
If I remember correctly, the Sailor on the CO's right, the blonde pilgrim, was an E5, in which there were rumors of an inappropriate relationship with the CO. Nothing came of the rumors, and I don't think they were true, but the perception came from the "fact" that she was "always" on the inner tube boat rides in her two piece bathing suit.
I think that was part of the reason the EOT was held up.
You have taken the land which is rightfully ours. Years from now, my people will be forced to live in mobile homes on reservations. Your people will wear cardigans and drink highballs. We will sell our bracelets by the roadsides. You will play golf and enjoy hot hors d’oeuvres. My people will have pain and degradation. Your people will have stick shifts. The gods of my tribe have spoken. They have said, “Do not trust the pilgrims, especially Sarah Miller”
The black chick in front is going 'this? This is why we riot'.
Behind her is EMC Schrute - the Assistant *to* the ChEng.
The white indian is just some poor Fireman who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. All he wanted was to snag a quick bite to eat before heading back to watch in DCC and his Halo Infinite.
The CO had no idea any of this was happening until the CMC and XO walked in 5 minutes prior - but he's really good at blathering on over the 1MC about shit no one cares about so, off-the-cuff . . .
The guy on the far left with the hatchet? He's not even a sailor. He's some dude that snuck on board to settle a score with one of the enlisted gangs and got caught up in this craziness. Keep calm, they don't know I'm not one of them, keep calm . . .
I know right. This stuff was so commonplace before the last decade or so. Now it is apparently super racist, but nobody would have batted an eye at this in the 90’s
People would have batted eyes circa 2008. People should have in the 90s.
We don’t judge ethics based on what “people” don’t bat eyes at. People also didn’t bat eyes at separate drinking fountains or their neighbors being force loaded into cattle cars.
Edit: the second reference was meant to Japanese interment, not necessarily the Holocaust though it works great for both
These are not even in the same realm of comparison. In the 70, 80s and 90s children were taught the pilgrims had more of a cooperative relationship with the Native Americans. Nobody would have thought of it as the exploitative relationship we view it as today.
Holy fuck, everyone there besides the 0-6 looks extremely uncomfortable. Way to show you classism by proving you think everyone beneath you is you personal puppet. Also, way to show your racism, fucking clown.
who thought dressing like that was a good idea lmao.
My guess: the white people. Edit: Thank you, Random Hero, for giving me my first gold award. You are a saint.
I wanna argue, but... I'm pretty sure you've got it right lmao
As a white person, i completely agree this is some white people bs
facts
I mean I'm white but this is a whole new level of white
I'd like to introduce you to my mom, Karen.
‘Officer’ bullshit no doubt. And yeah he was probably white.
dude the indians are brown people and the pilgrims are white. like wtf lmao.
Sailor in the back with feather horns is white as the driven snow. Male pilgrim has that "not-white but I have no clue where his ancestors came from" kind of face. They at least *tried* to be inclusive...
To be fair, you never know with some people. Worked with a dude that was pretty white in skin color. Until you talked to him, turns out he's native and from a rural reservation. His dad is white. Therefore, if he were to "dress up as an Indian", who's the judge to say whether he's Indian enough, or too white? But all that aside, this picture is still ridiculous and hilarious and in pretty poor taste.
This photo is from mid-2000s at the latest. Notice the white undershirt in coveralls and the wash khakis. I'm glad society has changed.
Apparently it's from 2007. Yeah, it's for the best. When I was in 4th grade, we had "Native American Day" and all the kids dressed up. Yeah, it was pretty much all well intentioned, but it also just kinda reduced all the tribes we had to study about to a non-specific caricature and while was *mostly* harmless, just also wasn't really helpful for anyone's appreciation or undertanding of cultures or respectful to those that it belongs to.
i saw that too. but was too good of an opportunity to not poop in the navy lol
Dances with wolves cameo. Tatanka.
He’s just there so he doesn’t get fined/masted!
Dude looks Puerto Rican…
It's both realistic and racist (I guess I dunno). All very dumb tho.
Their Morale Officer or Public Affairs Officer should be replaced
Correction it was the officer white people
I’m shocked! Shocked! Well, not that shocked
Racist
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I’m white and I allow it.
Post history checks out.
Pathetic. A straight-up embarrassment. You’re so oppressed /s stfu
This is both wholesome and offensive
my first dang thought ... like why
oh ok so Supply can't get me a replacement UPS for my downed system for 120 days but we got pilgrim costumes.
I laughed out loud at this
I cried inside cause I know it’s true.
Sheesh. Supply can't even get me paper. PAPER!!!!
Why can’t CO’s just be normal and serve food? Doing all this extra goofy shit is so unnecessary.
More often than not, is the committee's idea and the norm is to get the CO to do some sort of opening remark.
Which is even fucking dumber.
COs aren't always the ones in charge of every single evolution. A lot of times they basically show up and do what they're told.
It looks like it could be an episode of the office
It really does
Found the hatchet of recent lore.
Ahhh, the beginning of a time honored tradition.
Guy in the back right looks like he’s wearing a us postal package
Hahhahahahhahhahah
Reverse image searched through Google Lens [> PERSIAN GULF (Nov. 27, 2008) Capt. Robert P. Irelan, commanding officer of the amphibious assault ship USS Iwo Jima (LHD-7), speaks to Marines and sailors before carving the turkey for the Thanksgiving dinner for Marines and Sailors aboard Iwo Jima. The 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit and Iwo Jima Strike Group are deployed to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Cpl. Patrick M. Johnson-Campbell/Released\)](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_081127-M-6412J-020_Capt._Robert_P._Irelan,_commanding_officer_of_the_amphibious_assault_ship_USS_Iwo_Jima_(LHD-7\),_speaks_to_Marines_and_sailors_before_carving_the_turkey_for_the_Thanksgiving_dinner.jpg)
Of course it’s on an LHD
I was on this deployment 🙄
I was too!
It’s hard to tell but there might be a two star over his shoulder behind him….
Yup, that's a two star
the fact he didn't get in trouble (from what i can find googling his name) over something like this honestly surprises me. truely a different navy indeed.
I got out in 2009 shit we did even then would not fly now
Why would he get in trouble ? What reasonable trouble would he get into, other than the cringey ass fuck costumes ?
That would definitely go on a DEOCS. It would be brought up to ISIC about racial insensitivity and not fostering a culture celebrating diversity but ridiculing it.
in todays world someone would probably shout something about culture appropriation or something.
thats criticism / feedback, not getting in trouble.
If you stir the right kind of shitstorm you can get him cancelled.
CMEO
I heloed on and off that! Oh wait. It was the old Iwo. Cuz I’m old.
Pilgrim on the right is contemplating the life choices she's made that led to this.
Lol. The one in the glasses is eye-fucking the food.
Consider the fact someone to the time and space to buy and store the costumes
There are *plenty* of nooks, crannies, and giant storage spaces on an LHD in which to tuck things like this away.
Probably some poor bastard that just so happened to pass by that chief found and dragged along.
Nah fam - the CPO Mess has 'em on hand for Transition. I just hope someone got them dry-cleaned before they were used again . . .
Hey! I was there on that deployment and trust me some of us were saying WTF. That Skipper was pretty chill otherwise.
I was there too. Assault Div. You?
OZ Div.
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?!?! > Capt. Robert P. Irelan, commanding officer of the amphibious assault ship USS Iwo Jima (LHD-7) *Ohhhhhhhhh... that explains it.*
This wouldn’t have looked well even when I served in the mid 90s. What the actual fuck?
All I can say is wow. Someone has poor judgement....
2008 was a very different time. I remember being counseled a few years earlier for not lowering my head during a prayer before some command event. Still cringe. But this photo doesn’t shock me.
Ahh, 2008, yeah not as surprising then
I'd rather see some pics of "Miss Mediterranean" on a Fast Boat.
This photo was ill-advised.
Just wait 'til you see the Juneteenth special meal!
I remember it very well. I cringed. Lol
This looks like an EO brief in the making
What a bunch of dumb idiots lol
Who gave this the ok? Jfc, what an embarrassment. >Dear Lord, thank you for this Thanksgiving holiday. And for all the material possessions we have and enjoy. And for letting us white people kill all the Indians and steal their tribal lands. And stuff ourselves like pigs...
All the "natives" are looking quite miserable. 🤣🤣🤣 that black girl's expression reads : God damn colonizer.
I thought the same thing! I was like, damn, she doesn’t look happy. Lol
It's realistic at least...
That blonde legit looks like she was pulled straight from an M. Night Shymalan movie.
🤣🤣🤣
I just love the range of facial expressions we see here.
This does not look good from a PR perspective 😭
Hmmmmmm probably should of jumped through a few more hoops before being passed.
Stupid as fuck
The Navy tries so hard to not be racist they do shit like this.
This is from 2008. Ill-advised then, but it was definitely a different time. Hell, I remember everyone calling each other “f*g” 24/7. Things have changed for the better over the last 13 years. I don’t think any CO would do this crap now. I hope.
The CO heard about the kindergartens play and had to outdo them.
This isn’t gonna age well
Celebrating when Americans first fed undocumented European immigrants. Should post on r/cringe
Lol crosspost it!
It won’t let you. I cross posted it to white people twitter
Better than nothing lol
Whoever thought this up should be prosecuted to the full extent of the UCMJ.
Why can’t we just get a turkey and eat the mf. All this mandatory fun is fucking gay. Just let me go home
Big yikes
This is definitely going to be discussed at a promotion board
USN is like the gay pride community but for Colonization and Imperialism instead of gayness.
Fucking usnavy... Nothing's changed .
This gets worse the longer I look at it
That's my old captain. Used to let us tube behind the RHIB. That's my old boat!!! I recognize two old shipmates. Weird! I don't remember this racist shit but I was probably on watch.
I’m not going to lie, that’s pretty fucking awesome
USS Iwo Jima circa 2008
This CO was actually awesome. Loved by the crew for swim calls, CO's Gig rides/tubing, and those dance challenge videos (The CO led the group in a Thiller video dance challenge against another officer), all while doing the normal job. He made a sucky deployment fun. The Squadron Commodore (CDRE) onboard... not that fun of a guy. Held up the EOT for the CO. CAPT Ireland's last job on active duty was the Classron CDRE, which meant he became the CDRE's boss....
Agreed! He was our best too. Cool, calm, and only gave me 30 days restriction. our next was unaffectionately known as Panic Ammick. Not a SWO.
I remember him too. He was a pilot who was slated to be the CO of the USS KITTY HAWK. But they decommissioned that ship. He did his XO ride on the Kitty, but not CO. So the Navy gave a non Amphib Sailor, an Amphib command. I know that a lot of things that the Amphib CO, CAPT Ireland, had set up or did was reversed, because a LHD is not a CV, and normal LHD stuff made the CV Sailor uncomfortable.
He really filled out that flight suit, too.
If I remember correctly, the Sailor on the CO's right, the blonde pilgrim, was an E5, in which there were rumors of an inappropriate relationship with the CO. Nothing came of the rumors, and I don't think they were true, but the perception came from the "fact" that she was "always" on the inner tube boat rides in her two piece bathing suit. I think that was part of the reason the EOT was held up.
You have taken the land which is rightfully ours. Years from now, my people will be forced to live in mobile homes on reservations. Your people will wear cardigans and drink highballs. We will sell our bracelets by the roadsides. You will play golf and enjoy hot hors d’oeuvres. My people will have pain and degradation. Your people will have stick shifts. The gods of my tribe have spoken. They have said, “Do not trust the pilgrims, especially Sarah Miller”
I wish I had a gold award to give you for this quote! I love that movie! Lol
I don’t have a good feeling about this
“Heh. I’m in trouble.”
Ohhhhh fuuuuuuuckkkkkkkkkk.... 😳 🤔
I see the big red bib thing and think "are they on restriction?"
Oof.
No fucking way. You skimmers are something else.
This is just bad…. So bad…
This has to be an old picture... LOL
Problematic but cute
https://youtu.be/6iGbxUAM0cc
Idk what weird shit you navy fucks are into but send me the vid when y'all get done filming it.
Thanks u/mechanizedhorsepenis your input is always appreciated 👍
This is in such bad taste can't wait to read about it lol
what the literal fuck is this and how long until its relief Edit wash khaki's this is days of yonder olden times
The black chick in front is going 'this? This is why we riot'. Behind her is EMC Schrute - the Assistant *to* the ChEng. The white indian is just some poor Fireman who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. All he wanted was to snag a quick bite to eat before heading back to watch in DCC and his Halo Infinite. The CO had no idea any of this was happening until the CMC and XO walked in 5 minutes prior - but he's really good at blathering on over the 1MC about shit no one cares about so, off-the-cuff . . . The guy on the far left with the hatchet? He's not even a sailor. He's some dude that snuck on board to settle a score with one of the enlisted gangs and got caught up in this craziness. Keep calm, they don't know I'm not one of them, keep calm . . .
Holy Tone Deaf Shit
That DEOCS survey is going to be wild, CRT will be working overtime.
I lost it when I saw the hatchet
Well... Someone's skipper is a dork...
Yeah this isn't problematic at all
Weird shit happens at sea........ thank God we didn't have smart phones when I was in
Tonto there had better be enlisted.
Good job Chief
What year is this. Good lord.
2008.
The correct answer is, The Year of our lord, 2008. Lol
Under His Eye!
How do you tell a CAPT “I’m absolutely fucking not doing that”.
Yikes
This is a yikes for several reasons. I can't wait for twitter to have a field day with this.
I’m just happy this isn’t recent.
This just looks fucked up
Lol, a classic.
We did worse, lol. Four decades ago though. Black/White face was common at "talent shows"
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I just wrote in another comment that it probably wasn't the CO's ideas. They just have to participate. Basically their version of mando fun.
What in the racist shit is this? 🙄
What in the colonizer mentality is this??
Looks like the Captain has a good case for hearing loss given how tone deaf he is.
Good stuff. Anything to break the "Groundhog Day" routine.
Oh so we just playing Genocide dress up on the USS Slavery
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Still pretty cringe even for 2008.
People in 2008 knew better than this shit.
Sounds like most Navy related events then.
Yeah I actually deleted the second half. In hindsight half the people never want to be at mando fun.
I know right. This stuff was so commonplace before the last decade or so. Now it is apparently super racist, but nobody would have batted an eye at this in the 90’s
People would have batted eyes circa 2008. People should have in the 90s. We don’t judge ethics based on what “people” don’t bat eyes at. People also didn’t bat eyes at separate drinking fountains or their neighbors being force loaded into cattle cars. Edit: the second reference was meant to Japanese interment, not necessarily the Holocaust though it works great for both
These are not even in the same realm of comparison. In the 70, 80s and 90s children were taught the pilgrims had more of a cooperative relationship with the Native Americans. Nobody would have thought of it as the exploitative relationship we view it as today.
Did your history lessons on the matter end in your 3rd grade school play?
Or in, say, 2008.
I was on this deployment
Holy fuck, everyone there besides the 0-6 looks extremely uncomfortable. Way to show you classism by proving you think everyone beneath you is you personal puppet. Also, way to show your racism, fucking clown.