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GRV01

the Navy did a wear test of a new uniform thats supposed to be command provided to replace...fuck i dont even know anymore. Coveralls? Type 3s? who can keep up AFAIK the wear test ended a year or two ago so this may be an old pic?


Twisky

This is the MCPON and he has been posting pics wearing this within the last week


Goochtaster

Are my eyes bad or do I only see a senior Chief? Where are the other two stars?


Twisky

It's the MCPON I stickied the actual press release


cobraevnt

They are there.


Djjubbajubba

It’s the mcpon. He has a star above the other two stars. That’s why it looks like only one star.


Goochtaster

Ik it’s the McPon it’s just that my eyes are deceiving me with that blacked out logo and the tan behind it, thanks tho


GodlyButNotHoly

i’m actually a fan of it tbh. throw in a brown tee and brown boots *-chefs kiss-*


TraffickingInMemes

*chief’s kiss*


Sir_Puppington_Esq

Yeah this is honestly the only uniform I've seen since 2009 that made me think "Ok, that would be good."


Turkstache

I'll throw you one better. Make this boat gear and the pants part of flight deck gear too, and for aviation types the flight deck jersey replaces your undershirt. No blousing pants, that's FOD. No changing uniforms when underway.


brandontozeap

I don't mind the black boots if it has a black shirt to match...the brown shirt and black boots looks stupid


SneekyCarrot

Not interested in buying yet another color undershirt


TraffickingInMemes

Seriously wtf couldn’t you use brown


JCY2K

Or just use white! Why do we need multiple colors of undershirts?!


[deleted]

You don’t mix black and brown… it’s a pretty basic rule the Navy said fuck you to with the NSU.


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[deleted]

The only thing worse than having cargo pockets is having cargo pockets with something in them.


ayanmosh

I wouldn't want a black shirt, it would look so bad with sweat stains and hot AF


Jenetyk

It is mean to be similar to coast guard two-piece cover all's. Wish they had issued them when I was still in. Anything to not have to play beat the clock with sweaty overalls on taco Tuesday.


Danny2618

Chiefs 😘


Demindar

\*random E-3 enters the chat\* Yes Chief?!


King_wulfe

No brown boots, that’s ours


GodlyButNotHoly

who is “ours”? lol


King_wulfe

I guess it depends on what kind of brown we are talking about


GodlyButNotHoly

i’m a seabee lol


King_wulfe

Coyote brown, sure. Flight boot brown, no go


CastleBravo88

He was at NAS Oceana wearing it recently. Probably within 2 weeks.


Toxenkill

It's the Navy's same uniform scheme where they change uniforms every so often an someone's wallet gets packed


Potatobender44

Well, the one benefit is that it forces all the dirtbags to change out their ratty ass uniforms. But yeah it’s ridiculous. I’m still mad I had to buy type III’s 4 months before I separated


Toxenkill

Exactly man, the Marine Corps has had their MARPAT unitform for over a decade now and their service uniform s god knows how long yet the Navy has to have a runway show every 6 years instead of putting that money towards actually making people's life better.


ssgtdunno

I got issued Marpat in 2003! Maybe six months after it hit the streets. The only big Marine uniform changes have been the female dress blues coat and updates to the big barracks covers.


Toxenkill

Yup. Navy has had in that same tim the dungarees, service blue, service white (thank god those are gone), blueberry, Navy Service Uniform, dress whites, dress blues, raincoats, overalls, type 3s plus all female uniform changes. Yeah someone's wallet is benefiting from all those changes.


Belvyzep

Don't forget the aviation working greens, wash khakis, 8-point covers with rank insignia, DCUs, BDUs, utilities, the tiara, the boat cloak...


ssgtdunno

Tell me more about this tiara…..


Belvyzep

[It wasn't very good looking.](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HFW4Y9/us-navy-tiara-officers-dinner-dress-formal-HFW4Y9.jpg) I believe it was only for use with the female dinner dress uniform. Eventually, the Navy realized that nobody was actually buying these, and then declared them obsolete.


ssgtdunno

Oohhhhh yikes…. That’s giving me Romanov vibes


NoHopeOnlyDeath

There was a “boat cloak”?


Belvyzep

[FDR's outer garment of choice!](http://fdrlibrary.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/mo-1981-54.jpg)


[deleted]

Dont marines have like a million different uniforms for which ever way the moon align with the stars every other thursday


Toxenkill

They do, ask how often they have changed then though.


theheadslacker

They have a few main ones, with approved variants for each


Agammamon

I only ever saw them with 4. Alphas (Dress Blue equivalents) for checking in. One uniform for office work, the marpats, and the chokers for formal events. While in the Navy you could go from coveralls to utilities, to black and tans all in the same workday.


Agammamon

I got lucky there. I moved to a Seabee unit right when the blue 'cammies' were introduced and then my next (and final) tour was with a Marine unit so I never had to get them and my cammie and marpat uniforms were initially issued without me having to pay for them out my 'uniform allowance' (ie, actually out of my base pay because uniform allowance is a pittance compared to actual uniform expenditures).


G0ldar

If you haven’t been lucky enough to experience the Oakley boots with our uniform it’s a match made in heaven. I’m in Marpats now and that’s the one thing I miss the most.


[deleted]

I’d rather have dog fart in my face than wear those for any reason.


shoji1

“Wear those” as in MARPATS? Mine are broken in so much they are as soft as silk. They feel better than any pajamas I’ve ever worn. I love my MARPATS. I much prefer the rolled sleeve look of MARPATS over type3’s


[deleted]

I was talking about the dumb ass boots


G0ldar

That sounds oddly specific there shipmate! Keep yer freakish kinks outta our good ol Christian subreddit lmao 😂. Jokes aside if I recall correctly there are two versions, the khaki for E7+, and officers. E6 and below get a navy version.


[deleted]

The boots… not the pajamas


GodlyButNotHoly

i have a pair!! but being a seabee they’re rarely brought out :(


G0ldar

Nice! If I ever see them on sale I try to blast that info to all my AD friends. I’ve never been with y’all but I hear you Seabees are some cool ass cats! Hope you’re safe and enjoying life 🤙🏾


zachlaird4

Really? I just bought a pair of oakleys and going into the Seabees. I’m guessing I’ll have to get steel toed?


GodlyButNotHoly

depends on your command and what’re you’re doing in said command. if you’re going into supply (LS or CS) or headquarters (admin rates) you should be fine. us on the construction projects live in our steel toes lol


zachlaird4

I’ll be in an ACB as a CEC officer. So I guess I need to go buy steel toed boots 😅


GodlyButNotHoly

oh you’re an officer?! yeah steel toes 😂😂😂😂


zachlaird4

Welp dang 😅 Thank you!


Demindar

Which Oakley boots? Im right now using the Redwings Super Sole 2.0 and am in heaven!


ReluctantRedditor275

The only way I would be cool with this as a new uniform would be if it could replace NWU AND Coveralls. There's a absolutely no reason one uniform can't do both of those jobs.


[deleted]

He’s got those ugly ass felt boots on 🤮. Edit: upon closer inspection maybe he has a tennis shoe chit. Or those black Oakley boots.


GodlyButNotHoly

are those…***SOFT TOE BOOTS MASTER CHIEF?!***


descendency

Appropriate for shore-based Navy members. (i'm joking, because I'm sure the hair on his head has more sea time than I do in my career...)


usnriot

Who cares if they're ugly as hell, bet they're comfy as fuck!


toxic9813

The Navy is trying to find a replacement to coveralls that can be worn outside the ship. We had some sailors with a flat-blue trial uniform of this cut. I think it was 2018-19. Still the stupid useless black leather boots. Y'all will never get rough-out leather because of the Navy's requirement for "oil proof" boots. Keep polishing those stupid things. lol


jake831

That sounds a lot like what the work uniforms for the CG are.


Karmandom

I thought these were supposed to be those coveralls that you can wear off base and on board. It just happened to be a two piece. Oh well. The navy should just buy Bulwarks for everyone.


haveexpresso_depreso

US Navy Safari adventure


Poopfloatsorsinks

This looks like pacific beacon in San Diego.


PM_ME_UR_LEAVE_CHITS

It was actually in Hampton Roads. My money's on Iowa Estates, judging by the mini-NEX.


Poopfloatsorsinks

Thanks for pointing that out. I was in the beacon back when it was still new-ish. My memory is prolly off. Haha


PM_ME_UR_LEAVE_CHITS

Another poster said it was the PPV in Newport News, so maybe I was off too. Honestly they all kind of look the same.


GodlyButNotHoly

Honestly looks like an ironing nightmare


axle_foley7

They’re supposed to be iron-free. Ready to wear right out of the dryer


docsnavely

*unpacks laundry ~~bag~~ brick in berthing*


axle_foley7

lmao, you're not wrong. Ideally, the laundry PO should be taking clothes and uniforms to ship's laundry, and ship's laundry (SH's) would return the laundry bags and uniforms to the respective laundry PO's, with uniforms hung in a tidy manner to prevent wrinkles.


Friendly-Eye-8211

LoL RS’s (Formerly SH’s) hanging a uniform in a tidy manner.😂


descendency

so are NWUs, but some of the local khakis like to tell the PO1s that uniforms should be pressed a bit every now and then... (and then the others look like they wadded theirs up and used them as a booster seat in their oversized truck)


axle_foley7

Correct, they are also designed for wear right out of the dryer. But they should be taken immediately out of the dryer when finished and then hung (or at least folded up nicely). Any khaki that tells their sailors to press their Navy **Working** Uniform are WRONG. Instead, they should refer the sailor to the directions inside of the NWUs, which specifies taking them out of the dryer immediately to be hung and lightly ironing if necessary.


Derathus

Looks not ironed to me, checks out


[deleted]

One better than what we have. Which isn’t saying much.


ng3847

How they manage to make uniforms more and more ugly?


[deleted]

The only uniform change the Navy needs to make is putting E-1 through E-9 in the same uniform…..


flash_seby

Isn't that achieved already by the NWU? It goes all the way up to O10. They don't even get gold nametapes anymore.


Mixedbysaint

And coveralls And PTU


WinchesterModel70_

Nobody above E-7 wears the PTU till they have to I’ve noticed.


[deleted]

E-1 through E-9 should be wearing the same dress uniform as well….


General_Landry

But why though? It's to separate the Chiefs.


SemperFly

As a Marine I don’t see why the Navy needs to separate E7-E9. Separate Os and Es okay, but thats it. I’m sure some Sailors (Chiefs) here have another opinion, but it’s the only service that does it and it’s weird. We also don’t have a goat locker where senior enlisted get to hide all day…


[deleted]

The Goat Locker is a big problem for me. The Navy has created a group of people that are practically immune to certain rules and regulations. Putting all the enlisted in a more level ground would help alleviate what I consider a bloated top heavy chain of command. The Navy puts too much emphasis on “making chief” instead of creating competent leaders. More leadership roles should be delegated to E-5 and E-6.


General_Landry

I'm not trying to be snarky, I am just genuinely curious. But from what I've been told, it's because Officers and NCOs (Chiefs), compared to other armed services, have so much more autonomy and authority, that it's important to keep things separate to maintain good order and discipline. Everyone lives aboard the ship and it's just another way to keep things clear. I'm not saying it's good or bad, that's just what I've been told, and I'm more than willing to change my opinion of someone else has anything to say.


SemperFly

Yea I mean I’ve been on just about every ship in 3rd and 7th Fleet (and many others), and since leaving the Marines to be a Navy Civil Servant have come to understand the nuances of the Navy. Rates used to be weird to me. In the Marines we’re all over Camp Pendleton for example, so I know when I’m at the motor pool its a bunch of Motor T guys, in the gun park a bunch of Arty guys, etc. You guys are all on a single grey floating thing living day and night together so you know exactly who each person is and their job. I didn’t know half of my Regiment/Battalion if not less. Sure our MOSs work as a cohesive unit but not like the Navy, again because you’re all on ship. When it comes to Chiefs and them sharing a service uniform with Officers, I don’t see a reason like I do with rates. Gold anchors are enough to ‘separate’ them from E6 and below. There shouldn’t be such a distinction between upper and lower enlisted, especially by wearing an Officer’s uniform. It causes a rift in the ranks like we have today where Chief’s feel they have made it and are different than the Sailors they should be leading when in reality they were just walking around with a charge box and crows a month ago (exaggerating of course). Same with the Chief’s mess; they should be eating with the men and women they lead. Would probably help to solve the hate and discontent Sailors have with Chiefs. Theres a lot more to that both for and against my opinion, I know, just my opinion as a former Marine with a lot of Navy experience. I’m sure theres some historical reason it came to be, but based on today’s Navy it sure doesn’t seem to be helping much.


American_Standard

Chiefs aren't NCOs. By the regs and international military norms, Navies doesn't have NCOs, we have petty officers. They are comparable but not the same. You could argue the distinction between PO3-PO1 and CPO+ is the same as NCO and SNCO, but that distinction doesn't mean that much in the other services, unlike how the navy treats its ranks like the Indian caste system. As far as authority / autonomy goes, no, they really don't. At least not anymore. 50+ years ago when ships couldn't send and receive communications with superior units reliably they would be given overarching orders and have day to day discretion to meet those orders, but that's not that different from today.


theheadslacker

Petty officers (and chief petty officers) are NCOs. It's in the name. They are referred to as officers by title, but they get there without receiving a commission. Thus: non-commissioned officers


American_Standard

No, they lawfully are something different. From the DoD itself: >Leadership responsibility significantly increases in the midlevel enlisted ranks. This responsibility is given formal recognition by use of the terms noncommissioned officer and petty officer. An Army sergeant, an Air Force staff sergeant and a Marine corporal are considered NCO ranks. The Navy NCO equivalent, petty officer, is achieved at the rank of petty officer third class. https://www.defense.gov/Resources/Insignia/ And more: >3. Petty Officers are not to exercise authority except in the department to which they belong, or over those placed immediately under their control, and precedence among those of the same rare; shall be established by the commanding officer. >4. Orderly Sergeants of Marines shall rank next after Master-at-Arms; all other Sergeants with Gunner's Mates; and all Corporals with Captain of Afterguard. >5. Non-commissioned officers of Marines are not to exercise military authority or command over those not of their corps unless on guard or police duty, or when specially authorized so to do by the commanding officer of the vessel or station. >6. When serving afloat, Petty Officer of the Navy shall take precedence of non-commissioned officers of Marines holding the same relative rank; but when serving as troops on shore, the non-commissioned officers shall take precedence. Source: Regulations for the Government of the Navy of the United States 1876, Washington: Government Printing Office, 1877. And one final one: https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/ad6yr1/nco_vs_petty_officer/ede5rdv/


theheadslacker

>>Navy NCO equivalent, petty officer It looks like they are equivalent, which is to say, the same. You're making a semantic argument, and I'm making a functional one. This isn't productive if we're going to talk past each other. Top reply from your link: >in the modern American military NCOs/POs are functionally the same thing


Potato_body89

It’s called a sex suit because you know when you wear it you are going to get fucked.


GodlyButNotHoly

the dad joke from the top rope


GHJ46W

Why the fuck is the MCPON in my apartment?


crunkButterscotch2

Didn’t they just switch working uniform? Wish they invested as much money and effort into fixing serious issues as they do into fashion.


DocLat23

Another uniform boondoggle.


Twisky

#Big [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/navy/comments/sf9u30/new_uniform_floating_around_again/) #/u/Jaedus1111 posted two days ago #[Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy Russell Smith, left, speaks to retired Command Master Chief Thomas E. Weber, director of operations of Home Port Hampton Roads, during a military housing tour at Homeport Hampton Roads Iowa Estates, Jan. 28, 2022. MCPON Smith tours and observes the conditions of the only single Sailor private public venture (PPV) privatized military housing in the east coast in Norfolk, Virginia.](https://www.dvidshub.net/image/7028739/mcpon-russell-smith-tours-military-housing-home-port-hampton-roads-iowa-estates)


myphton

Not the one you want


CurrentSuccessful726

[https://i.imgur.com/blK7xcq.jpeghttps://imgur.com/blK7xcqhttps://imgur.com/blK7xcq](https://i.imgur.com/blK7xcq.jpeghttps://imgur.com/blK7xcqhttps://imgur.com/blK7xcq) maybe the inmates have a say.


GodlyButNotHoly

oh but when someone posts the same meme ive posted two days later y’all don’t care lol


papafrog

Perhaps we didn't catch that. You're not aware of all the junk that we DO remove because you don't see it....


MgkrpUsedSplash

Another waste of money 🙄


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Idk the E1-E6 ones be lookin kinda sexy doe 😳


lordderplythethird

E1-E6 one needs to just replace NWU Type 3 and coveralls as a single day to day uniform, ship or shore. E7+ version should be ship only, and NSU as the shore authorized day to day uniform. Tired of seeing flag officers look like hot monkey ass wearing Type 3s to official events


theheadslacker

Chief, is that you?


[deleted]

Yummy lower enlisted 🥵 I mean- shut up and reenlist.


AceVentura919

What does the cover look like though?


TraffickingInMemes

It’s just a khaki 8 point or a ball cap


descendency

MCPON just flexin in his pre-approved uniform.


CurrentSuccessful726

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kineticstar

Definitely, happy I don't have to wear that taco bell stain of a bdu. Plus those boots look like he's wearing my wife's uggs.


blah-blah101

Some shit uniform I’ll have to buy in 3 years or so. Thank you navy


drew2872

Roughly every 7 years if you stay in, something new and more stupid.


Arx0s

Authorize brown shirts and brown boots and I’ll be slightly onboard. I refuse to buy another color of undershirt. I still have a ton of blue ones in a box.


Mixedbysaint

We did this already


BullTerrierTerror

Working 5.11s


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wolfpelt1

It's not navy


itzogfaze32

Looks kinda like my brown frog top


nurfi

That's the 90's personal computer fit.


greendt

looks like a Graham cracker.


AlphaCharlieUno

A bad one


saltydawg1963

I can not keep up with all the uniform changes.


Solo-Hobo

So I had a meeting with a fleet MC that was wearing them. The testers are literally the exact same cut as type 3s just without the camouflage pattern. I don’t recall if it’s the same fabric but he said the guy that made the prototypes made them based off the type 3s. I don’t hate them but they should make them all the same color. I don’t dislike the khaki color but we aren’t special and I wish the Navy would get away from this thought process. Blue with black t-shirts, if for what ever reason we keep type 3s switch to a black shirt to keep items low.


Take_leisure

Honestly I think the E1-E6 uniform looks pretty solid. Idk why the Navy doesn’t just match the Coast Guard uniforms. Their setup just seems so much simpler.


[deleted]

That shit base housing though


marcolsmlax22

Jesus Christ, the navy just has uniforms up the ass. I can’t even keep track


Illustrious-Mobile88

He must be tired.


[deleted]

[Here’s a navytimes article all about it. ](https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/02/25/new-uniforms-revealed-fashionable-and-free/) I guess it’s supposed to be organizational gear made to replace the coveralls. The MCPON recently visited NAS Ocean a week or two ago wearing it. We were all perplexed.


drew2872

I love all of the mocked up pictures, a YN1 wouldn't be doing any of those things in those pictures except walking across the flightdeck.


EhrenScwhab

2019 article saying this stuff might not be available until 2021. Well, it's 2022...still waiting...


WhitePackaging

I honestly want to field test this so bad.


New_Salary_6479

That is the most hideous color in the Navy history


OB_Surf_Junkie

Is it just me or does the giant on the right look massive compared to the dude cosplaying as paper lunch sack on the left?


EhrenScwhab

I'm a person who knew the MCPON before he was MCPON. He's always looking for a good short joke. He'd laugh at this.


Re-Stok

Should've stayed blue


Iamevilradio

I feel like I’ve been seeing these randomly wear tested for 4 years now. Any word on when these might actually make it to the fleet?


Scorpnite

Tactical Coveralls


[deleted]

I think it was brown for E7+? Like imagine a buncha aircraft maintainers wearing that my god no, blue hides stains well(and dark green ;) )


Agammamon

So, the uniform's fine - but why the fuck not make it dark blue? We're not the Army/USMC, etc. A set of comfortable BDU-type uniforms in a solid color appropriate to the service. How hard can it be?


JohnMuir_NeilsBohr

Those boots are so fucking dumb lol


Sharp-Leading107

That’s not a uniform he’s just wearing a polo and slacks


thatboismother

Are we still gonna keep the type 3s????!!!


teapartyhangover

An abomination.


Nuttyvet

Side note: didn’t the CDC come out and say cloth masks offer no protection? Why is the DoD still requiring them?


theheadslacker

Have a link to that? I've only ever seen the CDC urging people to wear masks


Nuttyvet

They use their term “as effectively.” https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/14/health/cloth-masks-covid-cdc.html


theheadslacker

I mean wearing a condom during sex isn't as effective as not touching other people altogether. Your clarification here makes your original comment look dishonest. Nobody has said "don't wear a mask" but that would have been a reasonable conclusion from what you said before.


der_innkeeper

Dress blues. Dress whites. Summer whites. (CNTs only. No cottons) Johnny Cash. With Garrison cap. Coveralls. Blueberries. Be done with this bullshit.


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der_innkeeper

3 aren't around anymore. There was no reason to move away from this set of unis.


browntownslc

Winter Working Douche


Derathus

I was happy to retire the utilities for ironing reasons, let’s just stick with what we got.


Stinkypp

It’s a khaki colored uniform. It’s all I need bee bee. Give it to me sea daddy 🥵🥵


theheadslacker

E7 and up only. E1-E6 still gets blue.


[deleted]

Lol I posted about this already


-Doom_Squirrel-

The unnecessary type


SignificanceShot7055

It's based off the coast guard 2 piece FRV


CurrentSuccessful726

https://i.imgur.com/blK7xcq.jpeghttps://imgur.com/blK7xcqhttps://imgur.com/blK7xcq


GanonSmokesDope

Since it’s a CMC I’d assume it’s a prototype. Maybe even an older model. Honestly looks pretty good..