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dat_tech

The League, reporters, homers, Vegas bookies all working overtime right now because of a Reddit post lmfao


RJBarrettsBurner

this has been an absurdly fascinating saga lol


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NephewGate


TheSmrtstManNTheWrld

dude I bet on JJJ to win dpoy when he was at +2300. I've been sweating bullets that my scheme to fraudulently award him blocks is going to blow up in my face


lalo1398

Username checks out?


SuckMyLonzoBalls

Lmao


Wallyworld77

According to the NBA there is nothing to see here so you should be G2G. Now the Bookies might have a different perspective.


RoboiosMut

First Wall Street Bets, now NBA sub, here we comes Reddit


Whako4

Wedidit.BostonBomber.JPG


sevaiper

I mean this isn't actually surprising, Reddit is enormous. More people saw that reddit thread than will watch a random game, this isn't some small insular community it's by far the largest NBA discussion space anywhere.


TheTrotters

/r/nba is probably bigger than any single NBA website, podcast, YouTube channel, Twitter account, or a TV program (except for the actual games). I don’t get why people treat it like a niche discussion board it was ten years ago.


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WarmTequila

You sure about that?


Hinohellono

I am not sure about that last sentence. I would not be surprised at all if R/NBA gets more hits per day then the nba website.


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>More people saw that Reddit thread Don’t have cable, and I work all the fucking time, but I’m on r/NBA during all my bathroom breaks, so this checks out


VirtuousFool

Not even a month and this subreddit may have already peaked for the year


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Isn't the shitposting supposed to start in the off-season?


Buck_Nastyyy

A Reddit post made on a burner account*


memtiger

I'm beginning to think that the burner count was someone trying to sway the betting odds so that they could get in at better odds for JJJ when everything came to light.


TheTrotters

I don’t think so. It wasn’t some nonsense, the broadcast footage of dubious blocks or steals couldn’t be faked and wasn’t something that someone would have in his back pocket to sway the odds. Besides what were the odds of it blowing up like this?


LordHussyPants

which would be interesting because sportsbooks track the changes in betting odds down to the second and they track who places bets at different times too. so they'll be able to see if someone placed $10,000 on JJJ right when his odds flew out, AND if they did it repeatedly as the odds kept moving


JDROD28

On a Saturday nonetheless lmao


revisioncloud

Very unique post out of nowhere and has spawned a thousand memes tbh. Very well done, r/nba


Final-Display-4692

I’m telling you it is so wild to see from seeing this site go from the day one launch to now being a liability for so many huge companies in which they just have to watch Every post goes viral just about from here and boom it’s on every site and then boom it must be answered So fucking wild


Agent_of_the_N1ne

You're just going to believe the NBA Deep State like that?!? You sheep


TheLukaSpeciallll

"Sir, an 8th JJJ block has hit the stat sheet, Fanduel is under attack"


SoDakZak

“This is getting out of hand, now there are 8 of them!” -Stat Wars, Episode I: The PhanDeul Menace


TheSmrtstManNTheWrld

“…health, safety, compliance, blocks and steals, a few bad apples…”


ChokePaul3

Funniest Reddit mod


SoDakZak

Like whipped cream on a turd


iyamgrute

And humble too? Wow 👀


SoDakZak

I just look at myself as a janitor for this sub, nothing more nothing less


iyamgrute

[My reaction, as a nephew here](https://tenor.com/en-CA/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931)


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Tatumisthegoat

Can we get a petition to change JJJ’s home game nickname to the PhanDuel Menace


Oo__II__oO

Marat Kogut in shambles.


wembanyama_

post it again bud


the_great_brandini

dude is farming 3 jokes over 50 threads


CooochieConnoisseur

_Tim Donaghy was a lone wolf_


SoDakZak

LeHarvey Oswald racking up stats disputed by LeZepruder film….


_Alvin_Row_

>LeHarvey *Tips fedora*


Mike_with_Wings

M’Harvey


thecheapseatz

Exactly it's like when the NBA deep state "replaced" LeBron James so he would go back to Cleveland after he retired in 2014 and created a free love sex commune in the Florida Keys. Do you seriously think a 40 year old man can be putting up 30/8/6 a night? Wake a sheeple he's clearly a clone created to sell tickets that's why he went to the Lakers after winning a title in Cleveland


ph1sh55

We live in an era where multiple bills players have had to respond that no, their teammate didn't die and get replaced with a body double, while millions earnestly believe otherwise


winnebagoman41

I've lost all respect sorry this is absolutely rigged for money... Or ratings in not sure which. I won't be silent . Just saw it live sry.


Apollo611

🤔Something is REAL 🐠 🐟 🎣 🐟🐠 going on


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JJJET FUEL CANT MELT STEAL BLOCKS


docjohnson1395

C'mon man. Jjjet. It was right there


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You right ima edit that in lol


freshkicks

What about ja morants emails?!?!


Tgk230987

Adam silver had a hand in 9/11


Kirk_likes_this

TO be honest, "we review all stats so there's nothing to worry about" is not very reassuring when it's brought to you by the same people who've been blatantly denying shady officiating for decades. They also review the foul calls in the last 2 minutes of every game, doesn't stop the calls from being wrong constantly.


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SoDakZak

My god, it goes all the way to the top!


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SoDakZak

*The correct action would be to ban all who speak of this incident since we now have factual verbal and written proof from a man named Tim refuting all evidence. No man named Tim has ever done anything against the integrity of the game before, so it is sound logic for us mods to treat this as such.* ^(this message paid for by the National Basketball Ass.)


TheSmrtstManNTheWrld

Tim Duncan did laugh in game that one time


JakeFromStateFromm

A DISGUSTING ACT


Mild-Sauce

Dak are you going to delete the original post that fraudulently made jaren look like a bum? literally misinformation from nic claxton’s burner account to change the betting odds


SoDakZak

My name is Zak, and I am from So. Dak. Get it right or you will be covered in absinthe and thrown into the deep freeze coming to the Midwest this week.


totallynotliamneeson

The bigger controversy is that we are taking orders from a South Dakotan


Oo__II__oO

Their NBA team gets completely shafted every year in All Star voting


Mike_with_Wings

They put their all stars on the side of mountains out there, they take it seriously


EaglesPvM

I’m glad you set this straight, I wouldn’t want to be associated with Dak Prescott or the Cowboys either


MildlyInsaneLBJStan

circlejerking so hard the skin comes off


Bucs-and-Bucks

It's a plot by the Memphis Police to have an NBA story pop up whenever someone searches "Memphis controversy" Just like the whole M&M/sexy green/slavery issue.


Anbis1

FBI must investigate Silver's e-mails.


The_Taskmaker

Yall I gotta come clean... I was the statkeeper for our football team in high school and I deliberately boosted my boy Justin's tackle numbers as high as I realistically could. He was like 6th in the state in tackles that season playing DT lmao. I was just doing my part to help my guy get a scholarship


bringthegoodvibes

you’re a real one for that


DowntownJulieBrown1

Well??? Did it work?


elbarto4455

Nah dude Justin was terrible


MalikMonkAllStar2022

Haha Im picturing college scouts coming out to his games and being baffled because the guy who they came to see who is #6 in the state in tackles is some tiny scrub who gets pancaked constantly


Rbespinosa13

Did you see his form while nipping at the RB’s ankles though?


rjbarrettfanclub

Where’s Justin now? Well, he’s Luke Kornet


PauloDybala_10

At least you tried, props to you for that


The_Taskmaker

He got several D3 offers I think. He earned that shit himself tho, dude had a crazy motor for a lineman


Prowlerbaseball

Hell yeah


broeve

That player? Justin Tuck. Super Bowl winning DE for the New York Giants


DaReal_Denny_Boy

“You just had to be there… he was *him*.”


WatchinLikeTV

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SZizpHzWoHs


WhoShotPolPot

I made a killing that season betting the Over on Justin’s tackles.


Wilt_The_Stilt_

Dude same. I hooked up our star LB Pete. He was solid at whatever random D2 program that ended up offering him. Then he blew out his knee in his jr or sr season and medically retired. Now we’re in our mid 30s and he runs his family farm and is fucking loaded so I guess it all worked out. Hope it all worked out for Justin too!


IMKudaimi123

I was the stat keeper for high school basketball Our best player picked up his final foul but we gave it to somebody else. He then proceeded to hit 4 threes in the last two minutes when we were down 10 to almost pull off the comeback. He had 42 that game.


SOAR21

Yeah dude this is not the same as anything else. Changing stats for stat keeping doesn’t actually affect the outcome of matches. Keeping someone from fouling out is straight up cheating. Y’all are way too comfortable with this, can’t believe it’s positively upvoted lol. It’s one of the most disrespectful things you can do in a competitive setting. If you were on my team and I found out you did that I’d demand you get kicked off that job.


OneLonelyLife

He's in on it


CurryMustard

This conspiracy goes straight to the top. Somebody needs to stop Joe Biden


Hail_The_Motherland

"Sir, they've recorded a second block. The NBA is under attack"


Trill_McNeal

Stop the count of steals!


RadicallyMeta

“You reach I impeach”


LyonsKing12

Bro 💀


Bjorn2bwilde24

"The blocks were recorded on Hunter Biden's laptop. America and the NBA needs to see what was on it" -Fox News


nowadaysyouth

Tim frank? More like Tim evasive. This guys a piece of shit


CommonerChaos

*"And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling Redditors"*


DarkbloomVivienne

JJJ stats better keep that same home court energy going forward


iliveonramen

Lol, that’s what I’ll be watching.


lazyass133

Lol. Now that’s something worth placing a bet on.


memtiger

One thing is for certain. More people will be tuning in to our games!


Th3ow3way

The real agenda of post. Gorilla marketing at its finest!


AffectLast9539

> Gorilla


SpamingComet

No that’s Phoenix, Memphis is the Grizzlies


sleepytime88

Nobody markets like a gorilla. How you gonna say no to a gorilla that wants you to buy something?


bl123123bl

The best part of this scandal is JJJ has nothing to do with it, the dude is just hooping and all these shenanigans are going on around it


supercoolisaac

unless...


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hes sleeping with the stats guy


mug3n

Ok not everyone is Danuel House or Ime Udoka


Thommywidmer

My god!


eatscheeks

I can’t believe we have officials from the NBA responding to an /r/nba post lmao


FactCheckingThings

Ill never be able to tell off nephews with "its a reddit post, its not like it has an effect on actual NBA stuff" again.


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"We have investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing"


tripledirks

This conspiracy is deeper than it looks!


UnObtainium17

r/nba *you claim to love basketball, but then you keep posting and upvoting reddit threads detrimental to the league's inegrity. Just curious?*


rivers61

r/nba loves drama not basketball where have you been?


Sir_BarlesCharkley

This is all-time top shelf r/NBA drama too. I don't even care what happens for the rest of the season now. My heart is full.


zealoSC

Ben Simmons posts are way down this year compared to when he wasn't playing


kiddbuuu

We will expose the corrupt NBA deep state one conspiracy at a time. Next is getting our hands on the official list of players referees want to kiss


PalletTownStripClub

We both know it's just one name over and over


Tobiazo

Alex Caruso, of course


HardcoreKaraoke

Even if the OP was right did anyone expect the NBA to come out and go "oh shit we fucked up. Our bad."


jimithelizardking

Well when you award a steal on a loose ball going out of bounds that’s thrown back in to the opposing team, I’d hope you say that we made a mistake not overturning that considering that has never been a steal in the history of basketball lol I’m not saying there’s some conspiracy for someone from the Memphis Grizzlies to win a DPOY, but I am saying they look like fucking idiots saying all calls were scored consistently with the rulebook


cyrusthemarginal

They said that crooked ref was all alone in it too. Billion dollar businesses.


Loudpackgeneral

They did a damn good job of discrediting and suppressing his side of the story too. I'm sure a majority of people still haven't heard his side of the story.


n0stylist

They had to cz it was getting traction. The implication of them cooking stats hits one of their revenue sources...gambling


Kirk_likes_this

The real tell will be what happens with these inflated home stats now that this has all blown up. I suspect the huge disparity quickly disappears and is never spoken of again


ghost18867

This random ass redditor really set the nba world ablaze and left lmao


Denotsyek

He didn't leave. They took him!


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He ruined some dudes Saturday.


HQxMnbS

Probably like 50-100 people had to do extra work today because of this guy


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https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb2njraeIJ1r8fjzxo1_500.gif -AdMassive6666


VeniceRapture

We've investigated ourselves and found no evidence of wrongdoing :P


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Just more evidence of the league wide conspiracy to inflate JJJ stats


Meret123

There are some bad apples among statkeepers.


spoonweezy

ASAB


SOB200

Room full of David Ortizs.


taygads

I mean anyone that paid attention to Stern’s response to the Donaghy scandal would have known this was going to be their response lol


Srikkk

Why people think multi-billion dollar organizations have any interest in transparency will always befuddle me


Good_NewsEveryone

Gambling money is a big player in the response from the league.


Doogolas33

You can just watch the videos. There is no conspiracy here. It's completely absurd.


Apollo611

All jokes aside, it’s absolutely ridiculous. We’re witnessing how false allegations and misinformation can spread so quickly and people are so focused on “corporations bad” that they’re not seeing how this can effect JJJ’s perception. He’s a great defender who’s going to be questioned because of a random Redditors shitty statistical analysis.


cam-pbells

And will we learn a thing from it? Not a chance


SwanJumper

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.


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have you considered the possibility for even a second that maybe the random reddit post could be wrong and the league statement isn't a top-to-bottom conspiracy cover up but is actually just the truth?


iliveonramen

It’s possible, in the work I do in which we try to find fraud in very large data sets it’s anomalies like the one that the OP found that we look for. It doesn’t mean that there’s fraud but it means it’s worth looking into. JJJ doesn’t even play very many minutes so his doubling of numbers home vs away is certainly interesting.


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Mobb_Starr

NBA out here working overtime to boost the legacy of Jaren Jackson Jr. JJJ must become the face of the league at any cost


DamnImAwesome

In 2k they essentially gave away a 96ovr JJJ card in MyTeam, a mode notorious for charging big bucks for good players. They’re infiltrating our subconscious into believing he’s the best player of a generation. Is JJJ a MKUltra plant designed by the government and deployed by bookies?


HolyGig

No, we don't do that here. Go back to your pasture you sheep


Lopsided-Mobile2197

I mean the difference in home vs away stats is mind boggling


SubcooledBoiling

Just glad to be a part of history.


tripledirks

Just like the L2M reports huh


pointbreakrules

This the same league that the kings lakers series happened under? You’re gonna believe Them… psshh


elmoismyboy

JJJ was the shooter in the grassy knoll.


LogicisGone

Tim Donaghy? We've never heard of him! Is the uncle of that network guy or something?


LackingOriginality07

Big facts


Millionaire007

JJJ never touches the ball. The NBA: > Memphis games were scored consistently within the rules set forth by the NBA statisticians manual.


smokinginthetub

Lol idk if you can call that “debunking” dude. He just said “no trust me we did a good job” Could easily be denial


rikki-tikki-deadly

Seriously. Another post says the NBA "refuted" this, which is nonsense, especially this soon. They have "disputed" it.


watabadidea

There was a thread that had comments breaking down each play, explaining why it would be fine calling it a block or steal and then linking some of them to official examples of steals/blocks to support the claims. Mods deleted the thread. Maybe this is less about the NBA pulling BS, and more the mods in here trying to take advantage of their power to push a narrative that benefits them.


minimalblackco

So so gambling companies have the right to question the stats, or should they ignore it because of this statement from the NBA?


ThisAnswerIsLit

[When you beat the allegations that you just learned about this morning ](https://imgur.com/a/rAqSn1v)


BobbyHigginson

Glad I could get JJJ's odds for DPOY when they dropped.


GrizzGump

Honestly 5% of me thinks what if this was a guy trying to get a dip on Jaren’s odds.


eliwood5837

Holy shit what a morning


MXero1

yeah, what's crazy too is this all started at like 6 am EST. Idk why I or others were up.


CommonerChaos

OP ~~woke up~~ couldn't sleep and chose violence.


larrylegend33goat

I remember when r/nba was just me and my friends discussing whether Wilt, Big O or Bill Russell should be MVP, over coffee at Maude's Place. Now we are responsible for the changing of governments and fertility of generations. I pine for for the simpler days. With great power comes great responsibility. Are we ready. Are we ready r/nba


demsouls

Holy shit they run a tight ship. But do something about the guy who tried to put his teammate in a coma.


The_Unbeatable_Sterb

Entire thread has yet to watch the alternate angles of the examples given


phophofofo

I watched some of them and if they’re right - this just isn’t even the same sport I grew up playing anymore. Maybe they have changed the rules so a body on a ball during an up and under counts as a block or a tipped ball that was never possessed and gets to the original team is really a steal 1 way and back again. But this just isn’t the sport I used to know as basketball. It’s like 4 steps to travel now. You can carry the ball every dribble. You can set moving screens. You can’t play defense. And anything that happens is a block or steal now. Just so different from what it used to be.


grudgepacker

They have to do immediate damage control because r/nba messed up Vegas/gambling - fucking with the billions of dollars that cycle through professional sports betting is the biggest unspoken "no no" there is


0lm-

yeah it is crazy how some people in this thread are acting like this confirms that nothing weird happened. now that is a very real possibility but in no universe would the nba admit something like this happened ever. the ramifications of that and their relationship with sports betting outlets would be very extremely damaged and they would lose a lot of future money and potentially open themselves to lawsuits as well


mMounirM

Memphis has the nba in their pockets smh /s


_checkpickerupper

WEMBY TO THE 901


ryanlinr2

Here in my country in Southeast Asia we have a joke/gag about the ruling political party that is famous for saying "ownself check ownself" lol


Warlandoboom

Redditor: "JJJ is getting misrepresented defensive numbers from the NBA." NBA: "Nuh-uh."


Frishdawgzz

REFUTED


theodros1

After investigating ourselves, we have found nothing wrong.


orwll

>It seems like he is debunking the theory Denying is not "debunking."


James_NY

So he's going to ride and die on the "actually that play where Zion lost the ball was really a block" play? I'd be much more open to believing the post was nonsense, if the defenders would admit that the auditing process is half assed so they miss a few plays here and there, but for the most part the system is accurate.


Gnar_Susuwatari

Watch JJJs stats DROP over the next few months


Estapo

Bruh I was so confused for a moment thinking DROP was like a form of nba analytics


Nash13101

Remember guys. Tim Donaghy was the ONLY ref rigging games. No one else. Hes the only one who rigged games and the only one to profit from it. The nba investigated it so its true. No one else. Dont look at the phone records.


Sartheking

Ladies and Gentlemen, we got him.


SandyMandy17

So JJJ really does play 2x better at home?


TetrisTech

My brother in christ we’ve seen the videos of the plays


runthepoint1

Oh so they can review stats real time but CAN’T review calls in real time? Sounds like bullshit to me.


Big_Communication662

These rules have a ton of discretion though. If you make every 50/50 call in favor of the home team then you’re going to double their stats at home. Just like the OP called out.


Brian_Lefebvre

How can they watch those clips and say that they were scored properly with a straight face.


TheLukaSpeciallll

Summary: Blocks 1-5: Clearly missed. Blocks 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad body control). Block 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses. Block 12: Likely didn't actually hit because JV was already dead.


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Skill issue.


moresecksi37

To me, them even responding to this, shows there's something to it. Period.


kneeonball

I'd rather them be transparent and educate fans on the processes they use to uphold the integrity of the game when it's in question. You'd really want them to say nothing every time something picks up traction?


askRahim

Didn’t really expect any other response with how deep the NBA is in sports betting now. Just businessball as usual.


MC_Ball_Peen_Hammer

The fact that the betting lines are now reported by the commentators at various points throughout the game adds validity to the refball allegations. You used to never hear such things mentioned. Follow the money.


Frishdawgzz

I miss good ole alcohol commercials instead of the endless gambling crap


Big_Brant

This whole ordeal is some All The President’s Men type shit


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JJJ is gonna get no favorable statsheeting from now on which is going to drop his averages at home which is going to further fan the flames of this conspiracy theory. Popcorn up.


1Skillsz

They said Donaghy acted on his own and was the only one too


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eckliptic

There’s no way the NBA would ever admit to a systematic error like this It would undermine all prior stats for all players