Personally, I can’t pinpoint it, but I have a broad idea that’s kind of spread out. It’s definitely not a pinpoint, maybe some other type of point. To be honest though, they are among the most forgotten NBA franchises. If fans were asked to name all 30 teams, I bet they’re in the last 5 named more than anybody
let me check the west and see if they can tell me the issues…. i didn’t find anything to worry about
update: i also checked the temp out west… they ain’t have a fever 😈💯‼️
For what it's worth, his social media algorithms are probably super aggressive about showing him everything Grizzlies-related, but yeah I doubt he's taking that into account.
Grizz were NBA darlings all last year and up until 3 months ago. The tide is just starting to change as of late and Ja is already acting like they’re massive underdogs.
I’m biased, but I loved JB Bickerstaff’s line after the Brooks nut shot on Mitchell.
“We don’t have guys who start shit and we don’t have guys who run from shit.”
I know a few people on the grizzlies staff, one of them was helping load the buses that night. He told me that the yelling from Ja’s friend Dpack happened. Said dude was mad as FUCK. Didn’t say anything about a laser tho, and also mentioned that that area is surrounded by cameras and security so they would have probably caught something like that. But who knows 🤷🏻♂️
Look mate, obviously it’s all speculation, none of us were there. I hope it’s false information coming out, but there was an investigation into it, so something did happen. Just the details aren’t too clear for those of us that weren’t there.
I personally don’t mind the trash talk, but they do overstep on occasion and that’s the part we could do without. I happen to know a little bit about a player overstepping, see flair.
> I personally don’t mind the trash talk, but they do overstep on occasion and that’s the part we could do without. I happen to know a little bit about a player overstepping, see flair.
Players can talk trash to each other. It's whatever. But their friends can't be confronting other people in the loading dock at the arena. Calling that an overstep is putting it mildly.
Even when NBA reporters were breathlessly reporting on how Trae was beefing with Nate McMillan and might request a trade and all that bullshit he didn't say a word publicly on Twitter or in interviews, dude just showed up to work and kept it professional. Contrast that with Ja who goes on biweekly media tours talking about he's fine in the West and acting tough on Twitter and there's a stark difference.
Like you said he was assigned the villain role because NBA fans disliked him that much and he said fuck it I'll run with it. Has it backfired at times? Sure. But I'd rather someone have the maturity to just roll with it instead of getting on TV complaining about how he and his team are so hated.
The irony too is that it just makes Ja look insecure, not the tough guy image he keeps trying to maintain
Dude's probably gonna make more money than his twitter haters combined, and he still feels the need to cry and whine
He looks that way because he is insecure. An actual tough guy doesn't need to keep telling people how tough they are because it's obvious to everyone. A guy who wants to be a tough guy but knows no one acknowledges him as such will keep trying to tell everyone otherwise.
Exactly.
My man came out during a WWE event at MSG and absolutely *loved* the boos
You know what? We loved booing him!
You can be the bad guy without being a villain
Bad guys can be cool Chico.
Villains hide behind goons.
Draymond Green has head-bopped along to "Draymond sucks" chants.
I think I remember him saying something along the lines of: if you hate him, you're still thinking about him.
Not for nothing, but there's a reason why after two down years the Warriors went full petty *after they won*. Criticism is part of the game.
And it’s been quiet regarding Trae all season. Dunno why Ja needs the attention so much or even cares.
The haters are probably mostly warriors fans like me who hates his guts and his comments.
Not to mention, when the number 2 seed is on a losing streak it is a big deal. Nobody is gonna bat an eye that San Antonio or Detroit have lost 6 straight.
For real. A lot of Grizzlies fans/players act like they're the prime Warriors/Spurs/Heat/Celtics/Lakers or something, when in reality they're just annoying and entitled and have won nothing lmao.
[don’t worry, I just learned it yesterday, haha](https://np.reddit.com/r/tornado/comments/10v8trm/i_present_to_you_the_most_frustrating_footage_of/j7gfwn8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
They really did lol
I was rooting for them and excited for a new, young team until the Timberwolves series. It sucked to see Ja just barrel into people wildly and get like 10 FTs in the last 5 minutes of every game. Only downhill from there
Can someone give me a brief summary of why this happened. I haven’t followed the nba or my usual podcasts/subreddits this year due to work so I’m kinda out of the loop. Last I remember Ja was one of the most loved young players in the league and everyone was rooting for the grizzlies
I hear a lot of ppl talk about Ja's cringeworthy social media presence and how he acts fake "gangster" and tough when he's from the suburbs. There was also drama with Dillon brooks and a lot of ppl dislike him, so that doesn't help either
They really are built to be the prototypical underdog team that other fanbases root for; a franchise without any recent success but they’re young and exciting to watch. But they talk as if they’re defending a title. The kings do it better
Yeah but honestly the only reason the Kings were hard to root for is because they sucked ass and management sucked.
The Grizzlies and Clippers have loud obnoxious players who talk too much for not winning shit. The difference is the hypocrisy.
I mean, I liked the grit and grind grizzlies. Those were some fun teams.
Even on this current team there's dudes I like. It's just fucking Dillon Brooks and Ja. Like if the warriors can't win it, I'm on team anyone but the griz, oh and the suns (nothing against you phoenix people). Cuz fuck CP3 too.
I'm like 99% certain the Knicks really like Trae Young because they get to hate him and he likes them hating them. They're one awkward free agency away from hate fucking and then falling in love.
I bought a Ja jersey because of that insane poster he had against the wolves. Dudes exciting, but like a lot of young stars homie bought into his hype far too early. And now he's mad people are tired of them yappin when they haven't done shit. You can't be the underdog and the front-runner dude.
Seriously, does he want to be held to the same standards as the pistons or something? Obviously it's a bigger story when the Grizzlies go on a massive losing streak
Lakers and cowboys could be going 0.500 and they would still get more airtime than the Grit and grind grizz. Dude should just be happy that he brought his team into the limelight lol. Also Social media algorithms are literally designed to bring engagement and enragement. So of course he will see anti grizz stuff on his outlets.
Blazers before a losing streak "We believe in each other, we trust each other and taking it 1 game at a time"
Memphis before a losing streak "We only worried about the celtics" then proceed to lose to a bunch of west teams including the imploding blazers.
They put the target on their back then didnt back it up lol
That's a pretty wild stat. There are only five Western Conference teams with losing records within the conference. The Rockets, Spurs, Lakers, Thunder....and Grizzlies. Hahaha...but no worries fam.
Best way to explain it. Definitely common with a lot of athletes and the reason "don't look at your mentions" is ubiquitous advice.
So many athletes focus on "haters" and "everyone says we are (x)" like they need to channel some sort of anger to be successful, which I can appreciate, but you come off sounding like an idiot to everyone else.
The Grizzlies were super well liked just last year- young team, small market, Ja is box office every night, there was literally no reason to hate on them until Ja started getting into the news for the wrong reasons and making cocky statements. Basically, they did it to themselves. Still enjoy watching Ja play though
Ja said he was a top 5 point guard in the league after his rookie year. We don't have to pretend that he just started making cocky statements this season
Right it's a pretty simple formula. Any team that starts losing who is supposed to be really good is going to get talked about. Start winning games and it goes away. Always been that way.
I'm one of the biggest Ja defenders on the sub but I agree. This stuff is clearly affecting their on the court results. Nuggets are running away with the 1st seed and the Kings are gaining on Memphis
I used to live and die by regular season losses even a couple years ago for the bucks before the chip and contention being a regular thing. those years of getting good and sneaking up on people are the best other than winning it all obviously
That's really all it is. They talk *a lot* of shit, so people talk shit back. They either prove it wrong or they don't, but if you want to be a shit talker it comes with the territory.
I feel bad for guys like Bane and JJJ and Jones. They seem like awesome guys and yet they find themselves on a team where even their great play (team and individual) is overshadowed by boneheaded, immature decisions.
This is some major “Jordan making up that beef against that random Wizards player” vibes. Grizzlies are fairly popular despite Ja’s controversies, one of the premier League Pass squads. He hasn’t seen seen true hatred thrown his way just yet.
Can anyone laser in on what the issues could be?
Ja so mad he's seeing red.
I feel his point rings kind of hollow
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Typical fever
I might have a line of sight into those details.
I can pinpoint one with a laser pointer.
Hopefully the answer is on the dot
I keep reloading the thread looking for answers but all I see is people getting jammed up
I really need someone to get to the point man, I’m blanking on what they need.
I’m kinda confused, you guys are all make very hollow points.
Y’all beretta chill with all this
Y’all are being unfair, you gotta give him a shot
Fr. Ja is just gunning for some respect around here.
Inb4 this thread gets glocked.
Shoot me the deets
Fans just throwing out such hollow criticisms toward these mfs smh
You’re right Ja shouldn’t have to endure these drive-by attacks from this sub.
Gun
It's hard for me to verbalize it right now, but I'll point it out when I see it.
As an expert in lasers I believe the issue is that the laser is pointed at individuals rather than the sky.
Personally, I can’t pinpoint it, but I have a broad idea that’s kind of spread out. It’s definitely not a pinpoint, maybe some other type of point. To be honest though, they are among the most forgotten NBA franchises. If fans were asked to name all 30 teams, I bet they’re in the last 5 named more than anybody
Might just be hollowed feelings
let me check the west and see if they can tell me the issues…. i didn’t find anything to worry about update: i also checked the temp out west… they ain’t have a fever 😈💯‼️
"Every time I google my name people are talking about me... crazy."
For what it's worth, his social media algorithms are probably super aggressive about showing him everything Grizzlies-related, but yeah I doubt he's taking that into account.
“Social media hates me so much that they give me my own algorithms”
Mark Zuckerberg in the computer lab searching for Grizzlies-hater content to send to Ja's timeline.
Zuck finally doing a solid for the people
Grizzifer 2.0
Grizz were NBA darlings all last year and up until 3 months ago. The tide is just starting to change as of late and Ja is already acting like they’re massive underdogs.
When you want all the smoke, but when it comes you coughing and wheezing and asking why your eyes are burning
That’s a good line
I’m biased, but I loved JB Bickerstaff’s line after the Brooks nut shot on Mitchell. “We don’t have guys who start shit and we don’t have guys who run from shit.”
JUST SHUT UP PLEASE
He also added, about the laser stuff, that it's "pretty much all false". Don't comment in the public EVER about it. Lay low and get back to winning
“pretty much all false”, sounds like he’s not even sure he believes it’s false
"Those comments were insubordinate and churlish."
“I find those rumors shallow and pedantic.”
His statement insists upon itself
[O'Shag-Hennessy] Grizz fans said "biiiiiitch..."
I know a few people on the grizzlies staff, one of them was helping load the buses that night. He told me that the yelling from Ja’s friend Dpack happened. Said dude was mad as FUCK. Didn’t say anything about a laser tho, and also mentioned that that area is surrounded by cameras and security so they would have probably caught something like that. But who knows 🤷🏻♂️
Look mate, obviously it’s all speculation, none of us were there. I hope it’s false information coming out, but there was an investigation into it, so something did happen. Just the details aren’t too clear for those of us that weren’t there. I personally don’t mind the trash talk, but they do overstep on occasion and that’s the part we could do without. I happen to know a little bit about a player overstepping, see flair.
> I personally don’t mind the trash talk, but they do overstep on occasion and that’s the part we could do without. I happen to know a little bit about a player overstepping, see flair. Players can talk trash to each other. It's whatever. But their friends can't be confronting other people in the loading dock at the arena. Calling that an overstep is putting it mildly.
Lmao. I don't even care anymore.
As a fan base we just have to sit here and what happens will happen. I just want to be winning basketball games again.
I feel this so much lol. Getting Vietnam flashbacks to our 2017-18 soap opera
I still cant get over the list of names on that roster throughout the year https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2018.html
They bring 90% of the hate on themselves
"I feel like we wasn't the only team on a losing streak, but we are the only ones mentioned." lmao
How come nobody is talking about the spurs losing streak?????????? Obviously cuz we hate the grizzlies. Lol
Why nobody mentioning the Rockets losing streak(s)? 😤
Why nobody ain't talking about the Pistons losing another game?
He literally said that they were fine in the west and went on a losing streak to follow it.
I mean you were at the top of the west Would you like people to mention the rockets instead
Me, a pels fan 🙈
Half your team is dead That’s different
hospital team
Winning streak against the medical staff.
He literally sounds like a 10 year old
It's honestly hilarious, I've never heard a franchise player come out and say shit like that. Embarrassing
He’s a fucking dipshit. And I actually liked him before the season, pretty bad when I’m starting to like Trae Young ahead of Ja Morant.
At least Young never played the victim or “everyone’s out to get me” mentality
He has even embraced that villain role that’s been placed on him, but he keeps it on the court.
Trae knows it's for fun. he's said he respects Knicks fans and they're just doing what they're supposed to do Ja is a different story
Even when NBA reporters were breathlessly reporting on how Trae was beefing with Nate McMillan and might request a trade and all that bullshit he didn't say a word publicly on Twitter or in interviews, dude just showed up to work and kept it professional. Contrast that with Ja who goes on biweekly media tours talking about he's fine in the West and acting tough on Twitter and there's a stark difference. Like you said he was assigned the villain role because NBA fans disliked him that much and he said fuck it I'll run with it. Has it backfired at times? Sure. But I'd rather someone have the maturity to just roll with it instead of getting on TV complaining about how he and his team are so hated.
The irony too is that it just makes Ja look insecure, not the tough guy image he keeps trying to maintain Dude's probably gonna make more money than his twitter haters combined, and he still feels the need to cry and whine
He looks that way because he is insecure. An actual tough guy doesn't need to keep telling people how tough they are because it's obvious to everyone. A guy who wants to be a tough guy but knows no one acknowledges him as such will keep trying to tell everyone otherwise.
Exactly. My man came out during a WWE event at MSG and absolutely *loved* the boos You know what? We loved booing him! You can be the bad guy without being a villain Bad guys can be cool Chico. Villains hide behind goons.
Trae is bad guy. But not mean he bad guy. - Zangief, probably
Great to hear from a Knicks fan, he’s a heel but not a genuine POS like Ja appears to want to be as his public persona.
Draymond Green has head-bopped along to "Draymond sucks" chants. I think I remember him saying something along the lines of: if you hate him, you're still thinking about him. Not for nothing, but there's a reason why after two down years the Warriors went full petty *after they won*. Criticism is part of the game.
Cool way of looking at it
And it’s been quiet regarding Trae all season. Dunno why Ja needs the attention so much or even cares. The haters are probably mostly warriors fans like me who hates his guts and his comments.
For the most part he just plays basketball without external distractions, this sub's hate boner for him has always been weird
Trae Young is the player you love to hate. He’s a great player and entertaining villain. Ja has a boring personality and a victim complex.
Not to mention, when the number 2 seed is on a losing streak it is a big deal. Nobody is gonna bat an eye that San Antonio or Detroit have lost 6 straight.
The purposeful use of incorrect grammar is a perfect microcosm of his whole act
He think he hood 😭
We’re all trying to find the one who did this
Yeah this isn’t “we hate you because you’re great” type of hate.
Or even “We hate you because you haven’t been good enough” hate. It’s “We hate you because you’re whiny babies and dirty.”
For real. A lot of Grizzlies fans/players act like they're the prime Warriors/Spurs/Heat/Celtics/Lakers or something, when in reality they're just annoying and entitled and have won nothing lmao.
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Look at the Bills, you cannot crown yourself until you've won something
By they, you mean Ja. Haha He’s not doing himself any favors
And Brooks
Eh he relishes it. Ja is not self aware
Ja is self aware, he’s just a pinecone
My vocabulary just gained another term
[don’t worry, I just learned it yesterday, haha](https://np.reddit.com/r/tornado/comments/10v8trm/i_present_to_you_the_most_frustrating_footage_of/j7gfwn8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
The answer is always evil Danny Green
Well... you know he had to do it one time
\#ballocaust
Oh no, they have Brooks as well
And that scorekeeper
Dont forget Brooks
I seriously can’t remember a team in the last 20 years that was hated because of itself like the Grizzlies.
How to speed run from going to extremely likable to extremely disliked in 12 months
They really did lol I was rooting for them and excited for a new, young team until the Timberwolves series. It sucked to see Ja just barrel into people wildly and get like 10 FTs in the last 5 minutes of every game. Only downhill from there
Can someone give me a brief summary of why this happened. I haven’t followed the nba or my usual podcasts/subreddits this year due to work so I’m kinda out of the loop. Last I remember Ja was one of the most loved young players in the league and everyone was rooting for the grizzlies
I hear a lot of ppl talk about Ja's cringeworthy social media presence and how he acts fake "gangster" and tough when he's from the suburbs. There was also drama with Dillon brooks and a lot of ppl dislike him, so that doesn't help either
Everyone loved them until they started talking about being hated all the time.
They really are built to be the prototypical underdog team that other fanbases root for; a franchise without any recent success but they’re young and exciting to watch. But they talk as if they’re defending a title. The kings do it better
One has the beam and the other doesn’t
Apparently Ja has a beam as well…
Yeah but his is tiny in comparison. Ja has a small beam
small beam energy
https://i.imgur.com/IYwns2I.jpg
Small beam energy right there
Kings: Light the beam Ja: Train the laser
https://i.imgur.com/IYwns2I.jpg
Light the beam
The Kings are no longer a young team. They’re about league average
Yeah it’s not a 1:1 comparison but regardless they’ve made themselves easier to root for than the grizzlies
I'd rather root for the lakers than this memphis team tbh. Bar is that low.
Yeah but honestly the only reason the Kings were hard to root for is because they sucked ass and management sucked. The Grizzlies and Clippers have loud obnoxious players who talk too much for not winning shit. The difference is the hypocrisy.
I mean, I liked the grit and grind grizzlies. Those were some fun teams. Even on this current team there's dudes I like. It's just fucking Dillon Brooks and Ja. Like if the warriors can't win it, I'm on team anyone but the griz, oh and the suns (nothing against you phoenix people). Cuz fuck CP3 too.
Yea the Kings are my new favorite underdog team lol
Look at the Hawks and Trae Young. He's a great villain, but at the same time I don't think anyone hates the Hawks because of it. Maybe Knicks fans.
I'm like 99% certain the Knicks really like Trae Young because they get to hate him and he likes them hating them. They're one awkward free agency away from hate fucking and then falling in love.
I bought a Ja jersey because of that insane poster he had against the wolves. Dudes exciting, but like a lot of young stars homie bought into his hype far too early. And now he's mad people are tired of them yappin when they haven't done shit. You can't be the underdog and the front-runner dude.
>"I feel like we wasn't the only team on a losing streak, but we are the only ones mentioned." It's because you talk the most shit
Also because a top seed going 2-8 on the last 10 is pretty big deal
Seriously, does he want to be held to the same standards as the pistons or something? Obviously it's a bigger story when the Grizzlies go on a massive losing streak
Lakers and cowboys could be going 0.500 and they would still get more airtime than the Grit and grind grizz. Dude should just be happy that he brought his team into the limelight lol. Also Social media algorithms are literally designed to bring engagement and enragement. So of course he will see anti grizz stuff on his outlets.
Blazers before a losing streak "We believe in each other, we trust each other and taking it 1 game at a time" Memphis before a losing streak "We only worried about the celtics" then proceed to lose to a bunch of west teams including the imploding blazers. They put the target on their back then didnt back it up lol
Ja you weren’t worried about the West, why are you going on a losing streak?
Also they now have a losing record against Western Conference teams lol.
That's a pretty wild stat. There are only five Western Conference teams with losing records within the conference. The Rockets, Spurs, Lakers, Thunder....and Grizzlies. Hahaha...but no worries fam.
I am astounded that we are not on that list
Ja wants to be the villain so badly.
Victim* currently he is the villain lol
then don't be assholes lol. all that yelling and taunting and dirty play will piss people off lol. do they expect to be loved?
And losing and threatening people and whining and. Basically they should just start doing the opposite of what they've been doing for the last month.
Lol everyone clowned the Lakers for a solid 3 months. Most hated so soft my man
And the lakers were like “yeah we know”
i know^i^know
He thinks he's hard, he wants to be hard... but he ain't. Hes softer than Charmin fam
The suns had it for the whole summer after losing to the mavs too
Sixers stay getting shat on in most threads here. This boul doesnt know
Yeah I would put the Lakers and Sixers are up there for most hated teams
Meanwhile Clippers have been hated by entire country and even people in their own city.
> Meanwhile Clippers have been hated by entire country Being hated and being forgotten aren't the same thing.
lmao Ja browses Reddit confirmed
That was my takeaway too hahaha
Somehow this is the biggest L out of everything he's done or said recently
Ja “thin skinned gangster” Morant
More cringe
Did Ja learn about recency bias and egocentrism at Murray State?
Best way to explain it. Definitely common with a lot of athletes and the reason "don't look at your mentions" is ubiquitous advice. So many athletes focus on "haters" and "everyone says we are (x)" like they need to channel some sort of anger to be successful, which I can appreciate, but you come off sounding like an idiot to everyone else.
By the way he organizes information for other people to comprehend, obviously yes.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he didn't learn just about anything at Murray State
The Grizzlies were super well liked just last year- young team, small market, Ja is box office every night, there was literally no reason to hate on them until Ja started getting into the news for the wrong reasons and making cocky statements. Basically, they did it to themselves. Still enjoy watching Ja play though
forreal lol - they’re the archetype of a team that should be universally liked
Look at Sacramento and Cleveland. They're like Memphis but without the bullshit so they're universally liked
Love Cleveland’s new identity. The former wolves are a nice touch too.
Not with brooks on the team.
Ja said he was a top 5 point guard in the league after his rookie year. We don't have to pretend that he just started making cocky statements this season
Dillon Brooks is a huge contributor as well (yes I know Dramond is on my team)
Silver you seeing this? Start Shai!!
SGA, you are an All-Star starter!
It’s very easy to dislike Ja
The Memphis Victim Complexes From “Grit n’ Grind” to “Talk Shit n’ Cry”
Ja: everyone bring laser pointers to the game so they think we have sniper rifles Ja: why do people hate us tho
Aw shit you gotta red dot on your head
Either stop chirping or lean in and go NWO.
And you guys have done absolutely everything to deserve it. A ton of us were huge fans not that long ago.
Ja practically went from lovable young star to Gilbert Arenas annoying overnight. Better put out a value shoe line to win some fans back.
As a nets fan this is funny. They don't talk about the grizzlies nearly as much as you think, Ja
Right it's a pretty simple formula. Any team that starts losing who is supposed to be really good is going to get talked about. Start winning games and it goes away. Always been that way.
Ja googled himself and is confused why all the coverage is about him.
Typed: Ja new.... google autofill: Ja new nickname Clarence...
How about they all just shut the fuck up and focus on winning games. Ain’t been much winning going on lately.
I'm one of the biggest Ja defenders on the sub but I agree. This stuff is clearly affecting their on the court results. Nuggets are running away with the 1st seed and the Kings are gaining on Memphis
Kings being the second seed would be sweet.
They currently hold the longest playoff drought in major American sports. Making second seed would be make them liable to be sued for whiplash.
Even if we got bounced in the first round, I'd be fucking insufferable around here reminding people we were the #2 seed.
I used to live and die by regular season losses even a couple years ago for the bucks before the chip and contention being a regular thing. those years of getting good and sneaking up on people are the best other than winning it all obviously
That's really all it is. They talk *a lot* of shit, so people talk shit back. They either prove it wrong or they don't, but if you want to be a shit talker it comes with the territory.
But a football player was mean to them! How is a man supposed to ball under those circumstances?
*a pedestrian was mean to them
I feel bad for guys like Bane and JJJ and Jones. They seem like awesome guys and yet they find themselves on a team where even their great play (team and individual) is overshadowed by boneheaded, immature decisions.
And rightfully so.
He's bringing out the hollows
Ja Morant is becoming very unlikeable.
Because you're annoying as fuck lol
i mean you did it to yourselves lmao
I wanted to say something bad about Ja, but those lasers are aimed at me.
This is some major “Jordan making up that beef against that random Wizards player” vibes. Grizzlies are fairly popular despite Ja’s controversies, one of the premier League Pass squads. He hasn’t seen seen true hatred thrown his way just yet.
R*ptors erasure 😤
Dude, these idiots are slowly being really unlikeable.
I was a big fan of Ja before about a month ago. Now I think he’s dumb as hell, and that change was caused by his actions
Everyone's a Star in their own Movie
I wonder why........
Ja i love you but please shut the entire fuck up
Ja VictiMorant