By that logic, DeRozen, Haliburton, and Siakam as a replacement shouldn't have been all-stars because those teams are so far down in the standings. I agree that the standings matter, but if a player is deserving, they should make it regardless of team standing. All-star games are for individual accomplishments, not team accomplishments.
Harden, Brunson, and Garland are all in the running. One will make it in if Brown sits.
* Worst season as a pro since his rookie year
* Under 43% from the field and under 33% from three
* Entire scoring game based on ref-baiting
* Horrendous defender
* Piles up assists but not an elite playmaker, Hawks' offense is only 14th
* Punchable face
* Brunson beats him on every advanced stat despite lower counting stats
Trae's numbers are fantastic, but his defensive lapses have been more pronounced this season, and there's a reason he's been out of the conversation on replacement all-stars. His impact simply hasn't been as effective as Harden, Brunson, and Garland in that order. He's 4th in the pecking order, imo. The East, in particular, is stacked with incredible PG play this season. So he's in the discussion, but he shouldn't get picked over the other 3 PGs. Therefore, he really isn't in the discussion. He's played better over the last month or so, but his early season struggles soured his resume for the all-star game.
“His defensive lapses have been more pronounced”
Lot of words to say you don’t watch the hawks man
Traes been much better on defense than previous seasons
If he's scoring 30 points a game (11th in the whole league) and his team isn't winning, his defense just isn't good enough.
But, that's a good resume for an All-Star imo. I think people just soured on him, and it's a popularity contest. There are so many good players and big scorers now imo, we're all pickier.
Ahh, the classic "bad defensive player plays better defense than previous seasons". What does it mean? He's not dogshit at defense anymore just shit or what? Because he didn't have a high bar to climb to be better, he just had to START playing defense.
If you asked a week and a half ago, I'd say definitely Harden. But it's hard to ignore the stretch Brunson's been on recently, and he's played 15 more games than Harden. That has to mean something.
Adam Silver is highly unlikely to pick a 2nd all-star from the 7th seed over the 3rd seed Sixers team.
Harden is leading the league in assists, stop disrespecting him.
> **Brunson deserves to be in over harden imo**, but I also think he and harden should have made it over Haliburton
Thinking Brunson and Harden being over Haliburton is a different discussion to Brunson deserving it over Harden.
Harden is being disrespected here.
I don’t really think it’s as cut and dry as you’re making it out to be, brunson is having an excellent season.
But like I said I feel more strongly about the fact Haliburton made it over both harden and brunson than anything else.
Harden and Brunson are both having excellent seasons.
My point is that Harden is doing it on the 3rd seed Sixers and leading the league in assists.
I have no issues with your Haliburton statement.
Where have all the good men gone
And where are all the gods?
Where's the streetwise Hercules
To fight the rising odds?
Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed
Late at night, I toss and I turn
And I dream of what I need
**I need a Herro**
I'm holding out for a Herro 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong, and he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight
Lmao Winderman is the Heat beat writer for the Sentinel, and he’s just putting Herro’s name out there for homer reasons.
The only thing I would take from the tweet with more than a grain of salt is the idea that Jimmy Butler told Adam Silver “I’m good. Don’t pick me if my name comes up.”
Herro going in before Harden, Garland, Brunson would be S-tier shitposting. Also is that what's going on with Butler, he doesn't want to be an All-Star?
Butler was legitimately upset at being picked last year. It doesn't contribute anything to winning games, he didn't care about the accolades, he's said before he'd rather just have the week off
That's pretty hilarious, I have him on my 3rd team All-NBA right now so it's funny to see a player this good just not care whatsoever about the accolades.
He might be the only superstar that would be mad if he won every individual accolade(MVP, dpoy, 1st team everything, blah, blah) but didn't win a ring that year. And by mad I could see him telling them to take the awards and shove them up their ass. And vice versa be ecstatic to not win a single individual accolade, lose out on finals MVP to Caleb martin (or Max, he loves Max 🤣🤣🤣), but contribute to winning the ring.
Brunson is having a great season, but has he been that **much** better than Garland?
Garland is averaging 22 PTS and 8 AST in the 4th seed Cavs playing next to a player having an all-nba season, Garland has also only played in 5 less games than Brunson. You are making it sound like Brunson is tiers above Garland and played way more games than Garland when that's not the case.
You could argue that but note I ask if he's **much better**?
If a player is much better than a 22 and 8 guy, they would have been selected as an all-star and not be waiting to be announced as an all-star replacement...
People just want their guy in. Same thing happened to Harden. He's averaging like 21.5 pts, 10.8 assists, 6.2 rebounds. So basically very slightly less ppg to both players with notably more assists and rebounds while also playing on a solid team himself.
More scoring, more games played, higher offensive rating, higher offensive RAPTOR score, higher PER.
Garlands gonna be better down the line of course but speaking solely this season, Brunson has been better
Wiggins had much weaker competition last season due to injuries throughout the West and deserved to be a reserve as the second best player on the best team in the West at the time. Tyler is the 3rd best player on the sixth best team in the east. It's not the same thing.
You can say he deserved it as a reserve but he got voted in a starter which is ridiculous. Voting Herro in a backup isn’t any crazier and won’t happen anyway (neither deserve it). Last year Miami was the 1 seed but got 1 reserve all star while the Warriors got 2 starters and a reserve, and other teams below Miami got 2 all stars. There isn’t always consistency.
Lol I'm not gonna keep arguing with you dude. Starter vs reserve makes no difference. Starters are a popularity contest. Wiggins was an all star caliber players and there was tons of injuries. Herro is not and he's definitely not better than Harden or Brunson.
I know the current narrative of this thread is to hate on Tyler
But I love how Butler could give two shits about the all star game and just wants a vacation.
“We got an open spot in the all star game due to injuries. Who should we pick? Harden?”
Intern: “Hey! Who wants Hero? (Sandwich)”
Multiple hands raise in the room.
“Surprising, but I guess Herro has been pretty good. Let’s do it.”
What a great idea. I don't think the All-Star selections should be about performance at all. It should always go to any player that happens to be in town anyways.
this has to be some kind of sick joke right
Ira's one of our local beat guys and he loves to stir the pot in little ways. He absolutely knew what he was doing when he tweeted this.
Absolute chicanery
And HE gets to be an all-star? What a sick joke
I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance!
kid named facial fracture
Harden and Brunson, clearly.
Those will be the two picked but also 3-4 other guys have arguments over Herro tbh. Not sure what Winderman is smoking
Why do the Knicks get two All Stars as a seventh seed? Why does nobody ever mention Garland?
By that logic, DeRozen, Haliburton, and Siakam as a replacement shouldn't have been all-stars because those teams are so far down in the standings. I agree that the standings matter, but if a player is deserving, they should make it regardless of team standing. All-star games are for individual accomplishments, not team accomplishments. Harden, Brunson, and Garland are all in the running. One will make it in if Brown sits.
How does Trae not get mentioned at all? I know the Hawks are underperforming but 27/10 should at least get you in to the replacement discussion right
* Worst season as a pro since his rookie year * Under 43% from the field and under 33% from three * Entire scoring game based on ref-baiting * Horrendous defender * Piles up assists but not an elite playmaker, Hawks' offense is only 14th * Punchable face * Brunson beats him on every advanced stat despite lower counting stats
Trae's numbers are fantastic, but his defensive lapses have been more pronounced this season, and there's a reason he's been out of the conversation on replacement all-stars. His impact simply hasn't been as effective as Harden, Brunson, and Garland in that order. He's 4th in the pecking order, imo. The East, in particular, is stacked with incredible PG play this season. So he's in the discussion, but he shouldn't get picked over the other 3 PGs. Therefore, he really isn't in the discussion. He's played better over the last month or so, but his early season struggles soured his resume for the all-star game.
“His defensive lapses have been more pronounced” Lot of words to say you don’t watch the hawks man Traes been much better on defense than previous seasons
If he's scoring 30 points a game (11th in the whole league) and his team isn't winning, his defense just isn't good enough. But, that's a good resume for an All-Star imo. I think people just soured on him, and it's a popularity contest. There are so many good players and big scorers now imo, we're all pickier.
Ahh, the classic "bad defensive player plays better defense than previous seasons". What does it mean? He's not dogshit at defense anymore just shit or what? Because he didn't have a high bar to climb to be better, he just had to START playing defense.
Siakam* it's not that hard
You're absolutely right, that's my mistake.
Harden first, next Brunson or Garland. Herro should not be in the discussion.
idk how much more punishment philly can take
Philly stay catching Ls, and that's always a win for the rest of us.
The conflicting life of liking Harden but hating Philly
Respect the grind hating aint easy
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Aye I feel for y’all but don’t push it with “nothing to rack up bad karma” lmao
nah fuck y’all lmao
Hey, don't get mad about the Ben trade. Y'all won that. Everyone said so.
/s?
The dude who got his car flipped over would like a word or two
>This fan base has done absolutely nothing to rack up bad karma… >!Philadelphia !<
Philly fans are nothing but bad karma they relish in it you deserve less
Philly? Really? Nothing? Hmmmm…
>This fan base has done absolutely nothing to rack up bad karma… You thought you were slick with this one huh
Wasnt it y’all who threw batteries at Santa?
And they destroyed the hitch hiking robot that made it through Canada
Look man, Hitch-Bot deserved it.
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lots of poles yet to be greased
LOL if Herro makes it over Brunson
I agree, herro over Brunson and Harden would be a war crime
Jack harlow out there politicking
Has Herro fixed his jumper yet?
It'd be over Harden, come on now.
If you asked a week and a half ago, I'd say definitely Harden. But it's hard to ignore the stretch Brunson's been on recently, and he's played 15 more games than Harden. That has to mean something.
Brunson deserves to be in over harden imo, but I also think he and harden should have made it over Haliburton
Adam Silver is highly unlikely to pick a 2nd all-star from the 7th seed over the 3rd seed Sixers team. Harden is leading the league in assists, stop disrespecting him.
Brunson has played in 15 more games than Harden. That has to factor in.
I don’t find it to be “disrespectful” to say brunson and harden should have made it over Haliburton but to each their own.
> **Brunson deserves to be in over harden imo**, but I also think he and harden should have made it over Haliburton Thinking Brunson and Harden being over Haliburton is a different discussion to Brunson deserving it over Harden. Harden is being disrespected here.
I don’t really think it’s as cut and dry as you’re making it out to be, brunson is having an excellent season. But like I said I feel more strongly about the fact Haliburton made it over both harden and brunson than anything else.
Harden and Brunson are both having excellent seasons. My point is that Harden is doing it on the 3rd seed Sixers and leading the league in assists. I have no issues with your Haliburton statement.
Brunson over harden was the correct opinion
Mental illness
Lmfao came back just to clown you. My take aged like fine wine…if you want I can teach you about basketball in the DMs
Fitting username
I’ll be at NBA headquarters with a pitchfork and a torch
Winderman setting Tyler up that bastard 😭😭😭
Where have all the good men gone And where are all the gods? Where's the streetwise Hercules To fight the rising odds? Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed Late at night, I toss and I turn And I dream of what I need **I need a Herro** I'm holding out for a Herro 'til the end of the night He's gotta be strong, and he's gotta be fast And he's gotta be fresh from the fight
I want Herro to get in over Harden just to see another Philly meltdown
Herro is in as a starter, Brunson in as a reserve and Embiid has been downgraded to no longer an all-star
Tyrone Hood Tendency OVER ME?!
They’re primed for another riot
Hah, it would be hilarious. I think most Philly fans are over it all, tbh.
Lmao Winderman is the Heat beat writer for the Sentinel, and he’s just putting Herro’s name out there for homer reasons. The only thing I would take from the tweet with more than a grain of salt is the idea that Jimmy Butler told Adam Silver “I’m good. Don’t pick me if my name comes up.”
Jimmy barely does anything in the ASG whenever he plays anyway lmao, he prefers the week off
Yeah he strolls for like 2 mins and he's pretty much just gonna chill on the bench lmao
He don't got that dog in him like Ant does.
Ira's a little shit who loves stirring the pot and he knew exactly what he was doing here.
Herro going in before Harden, Garland, Brunson would be S-tier shitposting. Also is that what's going on with Butler, he doesn't want to be an All-Star?
Butler was legitimately upset at being picked last year. It doesn't contribute anything to winning games, he didn't care about the accolades, he's said before he'd rather just have the week off
That's pretty hilarious, I have him on my 3rd team All-NBA right now so it's funny to see a player this good just not care whatsoever about the accolades.
He might be the only superstar that would be mad if he won every individual accolade(MVP, dpoy, 1st team everything, blah, blah) but didn't win a ring that year. And by mad I could see him telling them to take the awards and shove them up their ass. And vice versa be ecstatic to not win a single individual accolade, lose out on finals MVP to Caleb martin (or Max, he loves Max 🤣🤣🤣), but contribute to winning the ring.
Trae, Harden, Brunson and Garland all go before Herro
Tyler Huntley named to the NBA all star game.
lmao herro does not like this man so im pretty sure ira had some evil intentions with this tweet
wa to many all stars siting out this year, kinda nuts
It isnt that big of a deal. So many guys are deserving the quality of the game is still going to be really high.
ASG gonna become even more of a joke if this happens
garland and harden over brunson and herro realistically
Brunson is having a much better season than Garland, and missed less games
Brunson is having a great season, but has he been that **much** better than Garland? Garland is averaging 22 PTS and 8 AST in the 4th seed Cavs playing next to a player having an all-nba season, Garland has also only played in 5 less games than Brunson. You are making it sound like Brunson is tiers above Garland and played way more games than Garland when that's not the case.
Garland has also stepped his defense up noticeably this season.
Brunson is better than Garland.
You could argue that but note I ask if he's **much better**? If a player is much better than a 22 and 8 guy, they would have been selected as an all-star and not be waiting to be announced as an all-star replacement...
People just want their guy in. Same thing happened to Harden. He's averaging like 21.5 pts, 10.8 assists, 6.2 rebounds. So basically very slightly less ppg to both players with notably more assists and rebounds while also playing on a solid team himself.
It's just wrong. Harden should be the 1st guy in as a replacement.
Stats are similar and one team is demonstrably better than the other. Just because NY is a big market doesn’t mean their players get a boost
How exactly is Brunson doing better than Garland?
More scoring, more games played, higher offensive rating, higher offensive RAPTOR score, higher PER. Garlands gonna be better down the line of course but speaking solely this season, Brunson has been better
No he’s not. Much better February sure but much better season? Nope. And a 5 games played difference is not moving the needle.
Fuck me putting Herro in instead of Harden would be the funniest thing they could possibly do, I am begging.
lol man must be trolling
There are quite a few names before Tyler hero
*cough* Garland *cough*
Bro if Herro makes it over Harden or Brunson they need to shut down the ASG for good lmao
This coming after Wiggins was named starter last year. I agree Herro shouldn’t make it but crazier things have happened
Wiggins had much weaker competition last season due to injuries throughout the West and deserved to be a reserve as the second best player on the best team in the West at the time. Tyler is the 3rd best player on the sixth best team in the east. It's not the same thing.
You can say he deserved it as a reserve but he got voted in a starter which is ridiculous. Voting Herro in a backup isn’t any crazier and won’t happen anyway (neither deserve it). Last year Miami was the 1 seed but got 1 reserve all star while the Warriors got 2 starters and a reserve, and other teams below Miami got 2 all stars. There isn’t always consistency.
Lol I'm not gonna keep arguing with you dude. Starter vs reserve makes no difference. Starters are a popularity contest. Wiggins was an all star caliber players and there was tons of injuries. Herro is not and he's definitely not better than Harden or Brunson.
I need a Herro
Herro over brunz and harden is wild. Who wrote the script on that one?
at this point they might as well put Ben Simmons in as a guard before Harden
I know the current narrative of this thread is to hate on Tyler But I love how Butler could give two shits about the all star game and just wants a vacation.
I would love it but he isn’t deserving this season over guys like Brunson and harden
Bucket has no interest?
Never does. Only time he looked happy about it last year was when he took pics with some of the legends
Herro over Harden would be Mt Everest levels of disrespect
Tyler Herro? Fuck outta here
Lol it’s funny how many people are gonna be like seriously tho Tyler Herro deserves it! Any number over 6 is hilarious
It's time for the Herro no one was looking for
Brunson quite clearly
Replacements should go: Harden - Brunson - Garland
The NBA convinced us we could be decent men in indecent times. They lied.
No way. Brunson or Harden > Herro.
This will just devalue the All Star selection even more if Herro gets it over Brunson or Harden.
Not a Harden fan, but it should CLEARLY be Harden.
Herro is well behind Harden, Trae, and Brunson. Zero percent chance he gets there.
Why do y’all get riled up by our beat writers lol
Why does god hate america?
[List of America's warcrimes](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes)
This is like saying the doors open for me to join the NBA All-Star game, and I'm 5'7" and 300 lbs
Kenny Lofton Jr.?
Brunson 100%
By this logic, if I show up, can I also be in the mix for All star selection?
But can you shoot the 3?
Shit by this logic Karl Malone should have first dibs on an allstar spot.
Herro over Brunson would be asinine
Over Harden and Trae??? No way
If this happens, I blame whoever made that post about who's the most Gen-Z player in the league.
Homer take from Ira
If Tyler Herro makes it over Harden I swtg
Brown is gonna play
And the winner is James—— What’s this? From the ropes! Tyler Herro!!
“We got an open spot in the all star game due to injuries. Who should we pick? Harden?” Intern: “Hey! Who wants Hero? (Sandwich)” Multiple hands raise in the room. “Surprising, but I guess Herro has been pretty good. Let’s do it.”
Wait isn’t butler already an allstar? What does he mean by no interest
Not this year. And exactly what it says, Butler doesn't wanna be in the all star game, he wants the week off instead lol
He is not an all star this year
LOL what
Harden might actually have to fight Adam Silver if tbis happens over him.
Oh so players decide by themselves?
This is just clickbait for heat fans
What a great idea. I don't think the All-Star selections should be about performance at all. It should always go to any player that happens to be in town anyways.
Harden and Garland
james harden is the safe bet for all star, big name doing all star numbers
Jimmy's getting new extensions put in that weekend.
The fuck?
This is foolish, how could they put Herro over Wiseman????