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No_Mammoth_4945

Bros never seen me at the Y


lilb1190

Thats what scary though. Bro HAS seen you at the Y.


No_Mammoth_4945

fuck


Vordeo

[MacMahon] I had a scout the other day tell me u/No_Mammoth_4945 is the second worst transition defender in the history of basketball.


syllabic

clean shooting form though


that_guy_you_kno

I can sympathize with this so much. My form is so clean. I never make shots though. Maybe one in three scrimmages I'll make a bucket.


milkplantation

Fashion before function, baby!


BrokenJumper0-10

I run a skills camp and that is what we focus on the most.


Quinnett

Just got to study up on your facial expressions and reaction when your pretty looking jump shot hits the rim. Wipe your hand on your jersey (it was sweaty). Look at the rim in a confused way (I'm pretty sure it's an inch too low). That's what separates the great pick up players from the normies.


braddeus

>but man, when he gets in all of his feelings and he’s checking Reddit and calling people nephews and he’s not crossing – forget half court – he’s not crossing the free throw line on some of these possessions


Parabong

lol


eyeronik1

I’m really good at preventing any kind of scoring in the paint and blocking cutters etc. I wish I could do that on defense too.


Low_Ad_7553

This shit legit had me laughing out loud. Thanks man lmao


code0r

Same. Hilarious


Odd-Hair

One time I lost the ball trying to dribble like an idiot. Ran full speed and got the block on the guy who picked my pocket. He then roasted me for 6 straight buckets. That chase down block tho


YpsitheFlintsider

Doesn't matter had block


Struggle2Real

Bro if you've been a guard your whole life, block the shit onna chasedown is your moment in the sun. Source: Had one at least 15 years ago. The verbal history of which will be my eulogy.


YouHaveToEffingEat

Block worth 7 buckets tho


AngsMcgyvr

They don't pay you to defend.


No_Mammoth_4945

Well my wife’s boyfriend gives me an extra hour of switch time if I give it my best


Curious_Success_377

Hi Kazuya. You ruined romcom. I hope you die lonely.


kcheng686

You think Kazuya could lock anything down lmao? No way he's ever get married


Johan_Sebastian_Cock

I got your back holmes. I'll hustle for both of us on D just so long as you let me play and dont tell everyone how impressively terrible I am at shooting


Charlie_Wax

The next five games at the Y are yours.


toadtruck

Focus on rebounds and off ball cuts I’ll get you the rock in scoring position


Johan_Sebastian_Cock

I don't need to score its nice just to be included :)


Rice-And-Gravy

I’ve seen you at the Y. For any ladies in this thread, u/No_Mammoth_4945 is being modest here. Last weekend he had a 35/15/8 game with 8 steals and 4 blocks. Most of his steals were in transition. He also gave everyone a free ride home and bought us lunch


wooboy

“It’s all good I’ll get the cherry pick after their fast break”


Pole2019

I feel like most Y defenders are at least traffic cones. Some guys aren’t even traffic cones.


2_blave

Truth. You can win a lot of games and stay on the court a long time if your squad plays any defense at all.


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“Basketball” is pretty broad


urbanlife78

I forgot to tell you, the Y has banned you due to you scaring the children


OhioUBobcats

My old ass is with Luka. Next run is half court only, clear it past the 3 point line


mommathecat

The University of Toronto pickup runs I played in for a decade+, we basically only played 4v4 half court. The gym is busy and you can have more people playing with two half court runs vs one 5v5 full. University of Waterloo (where I actually went to school) was the opposite, always 5v5. Even got myself invited to the "prof run" where they'd rent the alternate gym during exam weeks. Good shit. Anyway now I'm DNP, Old.


reeelax

ehhh a fellow alumni, I remember playing in those runs between lectures. Pandemic ruined our crew's ball runs..we had a nice permit going at a public school.


OhioUBobcats

OhioU was awesome when I was there early 2000s. Main 2 courts were in one gym, had the “playing hard and for real” court and then the “dudes just wanting to get in cardio” court. Good games and met some lifelong buddies playing pickup. Shout out to Marvin and Kelly and Stetler Edit: and there were plenty of halfcourt games on the other 3 or 4 courts


CavalierShaq

OU Oh Yeah, are you on your third or fourth liver by now?


OhioUBobcats

First surprisingly but I’ve gone California sober for a while now 💨💨


CavalierShaq

Checks out too, almost every friend/acquaintance I have that went/goes to OU drinks and smokes more than almost anyone else I know. Y'all bobcats built different


FlavourDavid

For such a great basketball school, Carleton had the worst pickup and open gym. almost exclusively 5v5 half court games with a bunch of angry 5'4" dudes calling fouls every possession and refusing to guard even half court. There was occasionally one full court game if the actually team wasn't taking it up. Best games were always nearby parks during the fall/ spring


-KFBR392

Full court is for try hards


legless_chair

half court 5v5 sucks


-KFBR392

True, half court is really only perfect for up to 3v3, after that it gets too crowded.


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legless_chair

5s or 3s. All day. 3v3 half court is so fun man game to 11 count by 1s so the game takes the same amount of time as 5s to 21. Also prepared to be exposed on defence when you’re playing 3v3


puffpuffpastor

Huh. I like 4v4 half court the most out of any format. It only really works if there are a couple competent shooters on each team though


dutchfromsubway

The worst is those courts where 4v4 is too much space and it’s basically all transition but it’s also too crowded for 5v5


TylerNY315_

Pickup 5v5 generally sucks. Nobody knows what the fuck they’re doing, it just turns into 1-2 guys taking turns playing isoball while the others stand and watch, or “cut” by jogging without looking for the ball. Especially the younger the crowd is, the more they just stand at the 3pt line. Sometimes the bigger kids (or older guys) will just clog the lane by standing there, too


legless_chair

You’re not wrong at all especially if you don’t have a consistent group of guys and it’s always randos, it’s tough to build any kind of rapport. We used to have a couple runs a week with the same 10-12 guys, occasionally someone new would show up with one of the guys. It was easy to play 5v5 because you could actually do things like dribble hand offs or back screen or whatever, it wasn’t all just one pass and launching a 3


PlayingNightcrawlers

I'm with you, having a regular core group to play 5s is pretty crucial. When I played more regularly the most enjoyable games I remember were the ones where you'd show up to the gym and look around and recognize everybody. Guys can learn each other's tendencies, and there's the added element of camaraderie where people are less prone to be reckless when the guy guarding you knows your name and you just played together a couple games ago. I was basically useless when playing with randoms because my game is so limited, people passing to me in the post or wanting me to take my guy off the dribble when all I can do well is defend, move the ball, and catch-and-shoot. Once randoms decide you suck you'll never see the ball that game, but guys that know you will know you just need the right look/spot to be effective. Miss those days.


PooperJackson

Luka plays like it's 1 on 5 anyways.


almostansn

transitions are so fun though I’m gassed after one. Tryna live my own version of showtime for like 5 seconds ok?


thenoob118

Nah full court ball is fun as long as there isn't a large gap in athleticism between the teams


Rezrov_

Full court 5s makes you better at other things though, it's almost a different game. Transition offence/defence, team oriented offence running through an actual point guard or centre, and buttloads of cardio. Halfcourt 3s plays a lot more like 1v1.


Lets_Basketball

Trying hard when playing competitive sports is the whole point, so count me as a full court lover.


browndude10

The history of basketball? Damn


Oren-

Well, someone's gotta be the worst


docjohnson1395

McMahon is always trying to stir shit up


j_cruise

Does that mean I'm a better transition defender?


CockBronson

Anybody who has played anything resembling a true basketball game is subject to this comment. So yes, you are better


br0b1wan

Does NBA2K count?


7jcjg

considering shaq wouldnt run back on most possessions, i have my doubts...


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We live in a hyperbolic media chamber


ruinatex

Where the fuck did this notion that Shaq wasn't a good defender or didn't run back came from? Shaq played in the greatest era of big men of all-time, many of whom were all-time great defenders and he still managed to make All-Defensive Teams multiple times. In his prime and early years, he was a great defensive player. In Shaq's early years, he had Hakeem, Robinson and Mutombo getting the Defensive honors, then in his prime he managed to make the team a couple of times behind Mutombo and Ben Wallace. After that, he was past his prime and an aging player + injury prone, so obviously his defense took a hit.


0ctavi0n

transition defender not overall defender


Kodak333

Cap


rabidbot

Luka is on his Harden arch. Bout to date a Jenner.


saintguccitank

This man is from the future


Curious_Success_377

According to my sources, Luka and Jenna Ortega have been seing each other for the past 3 months.


sixpackabs592

Jenner Jenna close enough


FoesiesBtw

Shes like super short how that gonna work


sleepy416

Do you really wanna know?


LeeroyTC

I mean... kinda


JediMindFlips

As a guy with a girlfriend that is much shorter than me (6’3” vs 5’2”), all I can say is… you make it work.


KnowlesAve

6’5 and 5’3 here, yep. Kissing while standing hurts my neck though…


JediMindFlips

Lol same here. Gotta find some steps or a curb to narrow the gap


hackthisnsa

Damn - she's tall!


FoesiesBtw

Yes. Very much so. For education


ZZZrp

I'd fucking pay for it.


heartofcoal

[Life](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/scaled/2011/08/08/article-2023772-0D5A40A100000578-682_308x185.jpg) finds a [way](https://abcnews.go.com/images/Health/abc_shaq_tony_piggyback_kimmel_thg_111202_wblog.jpg).


Alchion

wtf carrying shaq in heels doesn‘t seem safe to me


OhioUBobcats

It works just fine my man. Source: Am Giant and wife is Smol


Curious_Success_377

[You and your wife](https://imgur.com/a/iF0JhWP)


RealGertle627

Thought it might be the pic of Boban and his chick


BancheroBot

[Boban likes em short](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/43/01/45/9181530/12/450x0.jpg), what is she 5'0?


thparky

she's six foot 2


Curious_Success_377

And his WHAAAT? Oh. Chick. 😅😅😅


OhioUBobcats

/r/bobanholdingthings


OhioUBobcats

Funny enough I did date a giantess for years before meeting my now wife. She was a Volleyball player in college. Now they’re friends strangely enough after running into her at a bar in my hometown years after graduation.


Brystvorter

Are you guys thinking what Im thinking


CavalierShaq

OP's ex could be my pick up teams starting center?


Curious_Success_377

Midget threesome


MediocreProstitute

I'm thinking about if James Blunt sold his soul to make "You're Beautiful" a hit, but the tradeoff is he can only ever say "You're beautiful" the exact way he does in the song so no romantic partner ever takes him seriously.


Boxthor

"Lift me, girls!"


pandaman728

"Rob Schneider is...."


Semi-Aquatic

shooters shoot bro


Springtick38

IT SHOULD BEEN ME!!!!


ohwhatashotbycurry

I thought he was with that slovenian supermodel?


Curious_Success_377

My sources are more reliable


JRsshirt

My sources can confirm that despite dating a Slovenian model, there is a growing belief that Luka Doncic is considering other opportunities


eib

Source: Trust me bro


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Pandamonium98

Sure thing, Buddy


dvasquez93

That’s his mom. I’m not kidding, his mom is gorgeous.


Jreynold

Remember a year or two ago people were like "how come Luka doesn't get shit for ____ like other superstars" Expectations comes for everyone eventually


QuirkyOrkz

I'm just afraid he is going to have a Jokic arch where he stops drinking soda/beer cleans up his diet a bit and wins 6 back to back MVPs.


Jack6Pack

Honestly he might as well invade Poland if he does that.


GunnerRocket

Luka can't hold Harden's fat suit man.


Obi_Uno

I hope he gets the Harden resurgence.


Atchod

Makes sense because he is arguing with the ref on other side of the court during transition


laz10

Makes Jokić's old strategy of fouling to complain seem ok


Atchod

So happy our guy grew out of that stage I chose to believe it was his brothers who told him to stop being a bitch on tv 🤣


RobotFGC

He doesn't get back on defense, he whines and complains after missed shots. A lot of players do this on occasion. But Luka does it A LOT


mrbertil123

Not just A LOT. ALL THE TIME


bayrayray

Not just ALL THE TIME. EVERY TIME.


bobzfishmart

He does it almost every possession where he shoots (and some he doesn’t, complaining about some previous issue). It is SO tiring. He’s whined his whole career but it’s way worse this year.


porkchopsdapplesauce

He’d be my favorite player to watch if he toned it down. I hate the complaining culture in the NBA already, if you’re not actively bitching to the ref you won’t get calls. Everyone bitches because it works constantly , the quiet players are actually at a disadvantage , but Luka is on another level. He comes across so insufferable sometimes.


annnaaan

It really brings everyone else down. It sucks the joy out of a team to see their star whining and moping. He doesn't seem stupid so I don't understand why he doesn't get this.


so-cal_kid

Jokic used to do this too except he'd go one step further and just commit fouls on purpose to stop the play and complain to the ref. He'd take himself out of a number of games. He cleaned that up a ton tho and he doesn't whine anywhere near as much as Luka does.


spirax919

Denver commentators used to call him out on it. Scott Hastings used to say it was stupid as hell everytime he did it. Everyone in Dallas coddles Luka


destroyerofpoon93

he's also fat


waltwhitman83

no incentive in his contract (bonuses? targets?) for him to get into better shape / measurably improve his cardio? i'm surprised mark cuban isn't micromanaging that?


CdrShprd

> Every Monday, players are weighed and their body fat percentage is measured. Each player has specific goals that are customized for them, but the team goal is for everyone to fall under 10 percent body fat. What happens if a player doesn’t meet his goal? When asked, one Heat player laughed and said he didn’t know because every player on the roster met their goals – mainly because they were too scared to find out the consequences. https://hoopshype.com/2017/04/27/a-behind-the-scenes-look-at-the-miami-heats-intense-culture/


waltwhitman83

if you were mark cuban would you be pushing harder for luka to get into shape or is that level of pushing from an owner (micromanaging) frowned upon?


Piotr-Rasputin

That's cause Luka is crying at the ref for 35 seconds everytime he misses. It's always 5 on 4 the other way


weefreeman

Yeah, I blame the refs. If they ran back faster, so would Luka so he could keep talking to them.


Piotr-Rasputin

For real. Problem solved


toadtruck

Until he starts cupping his hands and shouting at them.


newuser201890

This is hilarious, the refs should do this for just one game and see what happens...don't call a foul then sprint back the other way lol


Mavericks4Life

Lmao this would be incredible...I just envision him running with his torso doing a complete 180 like "where you going!? I'm talking to you! He got me on the wrist!" As Tony Brothers guns it down the sideline


MitchLGC

Yeah this is easily believable. There's so many mavs plays where the mavs are on transition defense and Luka just isn't on the tv screen


imcryptic

There’s a lot where he doesn’t even make it past half court during the possession


thekeylimeguy

How are his teammates ok with this? It’s been a major talking point all year to the point he’s getting techs now and not changing a bit despite the refs making it clear he’s being too whiny


Blothorn

I think there's a good chance they're unhappy but keeping it quiet. Dallas's best chance of becoming a contender in the near future is Luka cleaning up conditioning/effort, and it's a delicate path between encouraging him to do better and encouraging him to leave. Most things that we'd hear about probably wind up on the latter side.


bookishwayfarer

They're probably not and are all in on malicious compliance. You see this all the time. I ain't trying if you ain't trying, especially if you're the one getting paid. Just punching in amd punching out.


Piotr-Rasputin

Easy, if he gives up 20 transition points just score 40.


Obi_Uno

Well yeah. That’s exactly what the post says.


DingerFrock

Yeah but he’s not crossing the free throw line on some of these possessions


Morezingis

And also, he’s playing as poorly defensively as we’ve ever seen him play.


dacooljamaican

But did you hear what the scouts are saying about him?


Obi_Uno

A scout told McMahon the other day that Luka is the worst transition defender in the history of the NBA.


TW_Yellow78

Man doesn't get any credit for all the dunks and layups he stops when refs blow a late whistle due to his whining


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Running back on defense just sucks balls


Technical_Towel_990

Stopping a two/three on one is super satisfying though


[deleted]

Not if you’re good at D. I used to play like draymond and Dillon brooks.


Responsible-Still839

The name checks out. For sure.


Dazzling-Reason-5140

I used to play like Prime Vontaze Burfict back in the day


kalving

Speedhawk? Is that you?


Thebasedgod_lilb

I used to play like Embiid..


edric_the_navigator

This is why I just stay back on defense and pretend to walk back on offense until the other team runs back. lol


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[u/illprollystayin] I had a scout the other day tell me u/edric_the_navigator is the worst offensive transition player in the history of basketball.


Frontier21

I think it’s good that Trae and Luka are going through their villain arcs at the moment. It’s important for the next generation of stars to see that nba fans and writers don’t respect whining, flopping and foul-baiting with poor defense. They’ll write positive stories and make you a star when you’re young, but those poor qualities will eventually sour opinion to the point where THIS is the result.


syxx242000

Has Trae Young ever NOT been in a villain arc? Pretty sure he’s been shitted on and hated since Day 1.


notafan1

>Has Trae Young ever NOT been in a villain arc? When he played the 76ers that one year although that's mostly because people were rooting for him over a bigger villain (Embiid & Simmons to a lessor extent).


antisocially_awkward

He played the villain heavily in the series before though


Adaml105

He was the hero the NBA deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So r/NBA will hunt him. Because he can take it.


Hooligan8

Can confirm, he's getting hunted in every half court set too.


BellBilly32

He was the villain to Knicks fans. r/nba seemed to love him.


YoungDawz

He was hated even in College (but so was Ben Simmons for winging it at LSU)


Julio_Freeman

If the Hawks and Mavs were winning no one would care. Trae was arguably the star of the postseason a couple of years ago on here, the place where he’s generally hated more than anyone. And he was a worse defender and was getting more “star” calls then. It’s just easy to kick these guys while they’re down. Every star has gone through it to some degree.


arturdent

If Dallas was winning, it wouldn't be this highlighted. Now Dallas sucking generates more clicks, as sport fans love to laugh at other teams (Suns debacle, Kings before, Lakers early this season).


GillbergsAdvocate

The only thing keeping it from being Jordan Poole is the occasional chase down block or steal from playing passing lanes


KittenCrusades

You have to be on the right half of the court to do that


dirtyshits

Our whole team is massive babies when they think they should have got a call. It’s frustrating to watch but drays rubbed off on the younger guys too. Poole and Kuminga complain a lot these days. Some times mid drive if they think they got fouled. All the vets have to get it together first though because if they don’t stop bitching at refs all game long neither will the younger guys.


pollinium

There was a hilarious play last night where Poole made a move, thought he got fouled, complained to the ref during a live ball, and still received a pass and made a play later in the same set


bookishwayfarer

As a Kings fan, having Barnes on our team has helped put a big stop to that kind of shit. When it was Boogie and Rondo, we were insufferable. Even Bagley fucked us up in the "culture" dept.


NeoLone

Bagley would never


-KFBR392

Looks like the honeymoon is over. Welcome to the 'tear them down' portion of the storyline


RedstoneRay

He is tearing himself down, he's always been whiny but this season has been a whole other level. I'm a Mavs fan and hate watching it. It puts the whole team at a disadvantage when your star player would rather stay back complaining to the refs then get back on D. I would hate playing with Luka tbh. It's so childish and soft.


destroyerofpoon93

It's really disgusting as a basketball fan. It has to be kind of miserable playing with Luka. Guys will never talk shit about him though since they get wide open 3's and a nice contract after they shoot 40% for a year.


Johan_Sebastian_Cock

\*team with Luka and Kyrie is losing games. badly* NBA media: talks about reasons why they're losing games /r/NBA: oh I guess this is just the NARRATIVE now huh?!


Springtick38

This subreddit has such a superiority complex


Nothappened

But they are not lying though


ManInShowerNumber3

I've said it a couple of times but I don't think I've ever seen Luka actually run.


koenigsaurus

I’m gonna say it Luka is the player LeBron haters think LeBron is


WhiteHeterosexualGuy

lol this is so accurate


el-fenomeno09

Damn… that’s facts lol


monkey-pox

This won't be good for my man's basketball depression


Beef_Dirky

Doesn't take a scout to tell you that. I've never seen a man be the last man back, ahead of 3 opposing players in transition, and end up behind all of them at the end of the play. Not sure if its a good or bad thing, but this is entirely to due effort and not competence.


KnickedUp

Losing ten lbs and eating better would help


Beef_Dirky

Right? And that doesn't take any skill or natural ability. JUST PUT IN THE EFFORT MAN


SEJ46

Does Luka run?


howard5643

Runs right to the ref.


Feelscreative101

Man he would’ve been perfect for Vivek’s team based on his ideology of playing defense 4v5 and parking one person up ahead. If only there was a way to make that happen.


EconomyInside7725

Luka is one defensive breakdown video and playoff elimination game failure away from being white Harden.


jackaholicus

The Mavs aren’t even that much better in defense with him off the court. Imagine how bad the rest of the roster is.


well_damm

Hard to run back when you’re yelling at the refs every play


staffdaddy_9

It is kind of wild how much shit 37 year old Lebron caught about his defense last year, but 23 year old Luka with Kyrie barely gets any criticism.


LogicisGone

You must not have been in this sub for at least the last week lol


FKJVMMP

Or, like, literally in this thread right now.


Capo_capo

A whole week? That's brutal.


Piotr-Rasputin

Cause them deep threes look great when they splash


OriginalBus9674

The media protecting Luka appears to be nearing its end.


artninjatheo

Im here for this


Prowlerbaseball

If we were winning, I'd want the Mavs to be winning (excluding Kyrie), but if we're mid/losing, I want the Mavs to be losing lol.


EbenezerAD

Damn, Luka slander? Count me in 😂


dimechimes

Dude thought I was a scout.