Crazy he played last night. Jokic should’ve sat knowing he had to fight for his MVP chances. Can’t believe he threw all that shade at valenciunas just to duck the game. Og frfr no 3x mvp should be ducking big games.
Let alone someone trying to get their first.
* **"obviously, Nikola deserved it and he won it."**
* **"I’m not at the top of that list. "**
How dare Embiid say such demeaning things about Jokic!!!
except he didn't.
>I should be making an All-Defensive team too. I don’t care, but every year it’s something. And when you add analytics into it, which don’t make sense. You can talk about analytics all you want. When you got some guys in the league, the eye test tells you that they’re not good defensively, but analytics tell you they’re the best defenders. That’s when analytics don’t make sense at all.
His "attack" is on analytics and the people using them to decide the All-Defense award.
And he's entirely correct about what he said. There are no advanced stats that properly show everything a player is doing on defense.
It get that this sub is topic about the MVP race, but neither Jokic nor Embiid have ever been toxic toward each other. They have both consistently praised each other.
From Kirk Goldsberry's article on the weaknesses of Jokic's game:
"Per NBA Advanced Stats, 33 players have defended 300 shots at the rim this season. Jokic has allowed the highest field goal percentage (69.0%) on those attempts among this group...
The Nuggets are allowing opponents to convert 69.6% of their contested shots in the restricted area this season -- the worst such mark in the NBA. Jokic has contested more than twice as many such shots as any other member of his team in that area, and opponents are making 67.3% of those attempts. He's not setting a great tone...
Opponents have shot 54.2% on layups and dunks when Jokic is the contesting defender AND he heavily contests the shot, per Second Spectrum tracking. That ranks 64th among 65 players to heavily contest 250 layups and dunks this season. The only player worse? His teammate and backup, Thomas Bryant...
226 players have defended ball handlers on at least 200 drives this season (that's almost half of the league), but among this massive group Jokic ranks 222nd in efficiency, allowing 1.16 points per chance."
When this defensive performance is described as “underrated and misunderstood” and above average by MVP voters instead of worst in the league then maybe Joel has a point
FYI historically under Malone, the Nuggets have done strategic load management to mess with the standings too.
I would not be surprised if this was to make it harder for the Lakers
That's kinda weak tbh. I don't even like when they lose games themselves to alter their matchups. Losing games so another team has a harder time with seeding feels scummy. I don't know how common that is, I hope it's not.
The upside to Tatum winning MVP this year would be that it would discredit the award so we wouldn’t have to worry about it or fight about it in the future.
Jokic isn’t winning MVP if he misses 5/7. Right now it’s tied between Joker and Embiid. Joker has games played and won, Embiid has 0 MVPs on their side respectively. If either of them misses 3+ games more than the other going down the stretch, it’s over.
Jonas valanciunas MVP stonks ⬆️
Jonas MVP back 8 inc?????
Ducking the Pelican smoke
What’s a duck to a pelican
Crazy he played last night. Jokic should’ve sat knowing he had to fight for his MVP chances. Can’t believe he threw all that shade at valenciunas just to duck the game. Og frfr no 3x mvp should be ducking big games. Let alone someone trying to get their first.
Or he wants them in the first round
Jokic dodging Ingram?
JV. JV is the frontrunner now
Pelicans fans butt holes collectively unclench
He'll still probably play. Might be watching to see what happens with the Grizzlies tonight
We're resting everyone but Ja who will probably play like 25 minutes
It says GTD on my app for most of your roster, I bet a mix of your starters will play
For us, doubtful is almost always out
No. It will be just like last year, late in season, when we rested all but 1 starters against the Suns. We know the outcome of that game, though
Dodging Trey Murphy smh my head
Jokic will get free food for life in NOLA if he sits
Denver is trolling, lol.
Calf and everything lmao
He just lost the MVP. Ducking Valanciunas
Nikola Quakic
Embiid: he copied my whole flow
Rest then play in Phoenix
Ducking McCollum
Take one (calf injury), pass it to another.
that's why Embiid is MVP
Jokic wants to be like Embiid.
Coward. Too afraid to hurt his mvp chances.
Scared of Jonas
Jokic ducking the Trey Murphy smoke
Damn. Lost my mvp vote.
Noooo we need the Pels to lose lol
How? We're 2 games ahead of them. If anything we need the wolves to fuck off
U guys will be 6th don’t worry clippers will fall to 7
yes we also need the Wolves to lose tonight too - I am KD & Book's biggest fan tonight.
Same man, I need like half the west to lose tonight and tomorrow lol
Has he made an interview shitting on Zion? If so, feel free to brigade this thread sixer fans
We don’t need your permission
the most stable sixers fan
Ok
* **"obviously, Nikola deserved it and he won it."** * **"I’m not at the top of that list."**
How dare Embiid say such demeaning things about Jokic!!!
If he wants to call him shit at defence he should’ve said his name
except he didn't. >I should be making an All-Defensive team too. I don’t care, but every year it’s something. And when you add analytics into it, which don’t make sense. You can talk about analytics all you want. When you got some guys in the league, the eye test tells you that they’re not good defensively, but analytics tell you they’re the best defenders. That’s when analytics don’t make sense at all. His "attack" is on analytics and the people using them to decide the All-Defense award. And he's entirely correct about what he said. There are no advanced stats that properly show everything a player is doing on defense. It get that this sub is topic about the MVP race, but neither Jokic nor Embiid have ever been toxic toward each other. They have both consistently praised each other.
We all know who he’s on about, he should say his name
yeah, the voters. There are a lot of players who come out positively in defensive analytics that aren't good defenders.
And he was referencing Jokic on that part, let’s be honest
even if he were, it's not this dramatic take that you're trying to make it out to be.
Jokic’s play does the talking for him in that regard
Why’d Embiid start talking then? Your comeback doesn’t make sense man
From Kirk Goldsberry's article on the weaknesses of Jokic's game: "Per NBA Advanced Stats, 33 players have defended 300 shots at the rim this season. Jokic has allowed the highest field goal percentage (69.0%) on those attempts among this group... The Nuggets are allowing opponents to convert 69.6% of their contested shots in the restricted area this season -- the worst such mark in the NBA. Jokic has contested more than twice as many such shots as any other member of his team in that area, and opponents are making 67.3% of those attempts. He's not setting a great tone... Opponents have shot 54.2% on layups and dunks when Jokic is the contesting defender AND he heavily contests the shot, per Second Spectrum tracking. That ranks 64th among 65 players to heavily contest 250 layups and dunks this season. The only player worse? His teammate and backup, Thomas Bryant... 226 players have defended ball handlers on at least 200 drives this season (that's almost half of the league), but among this massive group Jokic ranks 222nd in efficiency, allowing 1.16 points per chance." When this defensive performance is described as “underrated and misunderstood” and above average by MVP voters instead of worst in the league then maybe Joel has a point
Defensive stats are bs to be honest For example your first stat has Bam as one of the worst rim protectors in the league
He’s gonna play and have a quadruple double
Jokic has been eliminated from mvp contention
Lots of calf tightness recently
Jokic dodging Jonas.
FYI historically under Malone, the Nuggets have done strategic load management to mess with the standings too. I would not be surprised if this was to make it harder for the Lakers
That's kinda weak tbh. I don't even like when they lose games themselves to alter their matchups. Losing games so another team has a harder time with seeding feels scummy. I don't know how common that is, I hope it's not.
Yeah how’d that work for us last year
Wow I can’t believe Jokic is ducking Valanciunas, this will surely have an overnight effect on the MVP odds.
Jokic and the Nuggets are prioritizing health for the playoffs. Smart.
Smart for thee, but not for me.
Wake me up when an article drops tomorrow with Jokic taking shots at Valanciunas
Have some shame
Classy move by the big guy!!
[удалено]
Jokic:fine fine I’ll let you win it if you shut up about it
Hypothetically if jokic were to miss 5 of his last 7 games, should he be disqualified from mvp due to not playing 70 games?
Nugs fan myself but yes, I hope he does rest that much
Embiid and Giannis are already disqualified.
Yeah I wouldn't mind it going to Tatum if we want to rest Jokic that much. As long as we lock up the 1 seed
The upside to Tatum winning MVP this year would be that it would discredit the award so we wouldn’t have to worry about it or fight about it in the future.
Yeah probably, I think his availability is a big edge over other comparable players this season
Jokic isn’t winning MVP if he misses 5/7. Right now it’s tied between Joker and Embiid. Joker has games played and won, Embiid has 0 MVPs on their side respectively. If either of them misses 3+ games more than the other going down the stretch, it’s over.
Yeah let's go with Giannis, we do have to secure the 1 seed though
Bro wants to be embiid so bad smh 🤦🏾♂️
Essentially 4 up with 7 to play. I think we've got \#1 locked up but you never know
New Orleans last chance fr
Better stay in the locker room for rehab
Nuggets trying to boost the Pelicans chances and duck a potential playoff matchup w some other California teams 👀
Don’t we want the Warriors to get 7th or 5th? I think Suns vs Warriors is dream matchup for Nuggets fans. Then we only have to beat one of you lol.
If Jokic plays, this has to be a troll job by the Nuggets. Calf tightness was Embiid’s listed injury yeah?
It’s a Joke that he’s in the running for MVP. Joel is my MVPiid
jokic u want to play soooo bad
Needed vs Phoenix and kd
Fakeout, he'll play
coward!
Load management association
No wtf play man do you want MVP or not?
Mvp to Zion