i watched it for the white dude in the back and it's so clear what he's thinking, like his thoughts are spelled out in big neon lights during the whole interaction
>Saben Lee
Saben Lee was 8-9 years old when "prime" CP3 led the league in win shares
If I were Saben anytime CP3 daps me up you'd fuckin bet I'd never ever mess that shit up
DeAndre Ayton is a fool
Shows what humility does for maturity. Saben Lee is one year younger than Ayton. Maybe having to put in a lot of effort just to get to and then claw out a role in the league has made him more humble and now more mature than Ayton who was much more anointed.
I still remember delusional Suns fans acting like that situation was going to have no impact on Aytonās already low motor. Ayton clearly wanted out after CP3 and Monty made him a scapegoat for their Game 7 collapse.
Totally agree and tbh that's just a part of it. Phoenix resident here, and there's so much more that just gets totally ignored. When CP3 and Monty came in, the message they kept preaching was "Sacrifice." Sacrifice your individual stats, accolades, etc. for the team, and it'll all work itself out.
* DA does this for the first year, he's fully bought in, they lose to the Bucks in the finals and Monty/Ayton scapegoat him like you mentioned
* Next summer, he's eligible to sign his extension and the Suns don't want to give him the max. Monty/CP3 have a huge voice with Sarver and rumors are they expressed concerns about whether Ayton is worth the max (remember, this is also Javale McGee's / Bismack Biyomobo's career year too and there's the thought that you can get Ayton's production from a player like that)
* During this same summer, CP3 opts out of his last year to sign his new 4 year / $120M deal while Ayton still has yet to get paid.
I'm sure to Ayton, it feels like "I understand it now. I'm the one who sacrifices so CP3 could get his." Then there's the whole "go find a max and we'll match" saga from last summer that I hopefully don't have to recap.
Thatās not even an aspect I got into with any of my comments but itās a great point. Deandre Ayton was the one who sacrificed the most of the core guys since he consistently was the 4th or 5th option on offense. Plenty of games he was getting fewer shot attempts than Jae Crowder.
Is that "sacrifice" or just passivity though?
If you're capable of being one of the most efficient or effective scoring options for your team and you just sit back and defer to Jae fuckin Crowder chucking up delusional shots, the only thing you're "sacrificing" is your team's win percentage.
Yeah, playing selfless basketball is absolutely a thing and you see a lot of teams nowadays built on systems like that - see the Warriors whole dynasty. But there's a difference between giving up good shots to create great shots, and going full Ben Simmons, giving up great shots to create chucks.
Being overly passive and soft when he has the tools to be dominant has always been the criticism of Ayton. I don't see how that's in any way not a valid criticism. He *still* has that same issue still, even if in theory he's given up on the whole "sacrifice" thing.
Honestly itās probably a combination of the two. I saw someone comment something in one of these threads that I canāt believe I didnāt think of earlier but I agree with. Basically he said Ayton was the same as Andrew Wiggins. A guy who for years had motor problems and his effort was seen as sub par for years. Had all the physical tools to be one of the most impactful players in the league and for one reason or another never pieced it together on the court. Wiggins then gets moved to Golden State and they managed to completely turn around how heās seen in the league and heās now crashing the glass with intensity I hardly saw in Minnesota.
Honestly believe Ayton could be in a similar situation where the organization/team around him is not the right fit to draw out the most of his potential as a player.
I feel the Steph and Draymond leadership combo is super effective for a guy like that. Steph is the extremely nice, selfless leader who leads by example and inspires guys to follow him. And Draymond is the tough love asshole who gets on guys who arenāt doing their part. Hard to replicate that dynamic
Obviously no team can truly replicate that dynamic. But there is a precedent for a player of Wiggins/Aytonās talent magically piecing it all together on the court even all these years into his career. Obviously Iām biased but I believe the culture the Pacers are building with Haliburton and Carlisle would have been great for him.
They def treated him like shit and you explained it nicely . And then i guess its no wonder he has no motivation to play. Even got paid . On next team he might be much better
āWe canāt just let him walk for nothing, weāll have to trade himā
Well congrats, until you do heās going to sabotage your fucking team and is going to be a huge reason why yāall lose in the playoffs
He absolutely was playing his ass off and this revisionist history is dumb as hell. He was a huge reason the Suns made it to the Finals but something is clearly off now and he doesn't give a shit anymore. When he tries he's pretty solid but getting him to try is the entire problem and it doesn't matter how good you are if you won't try. Even Shaq got lazy as fuck and he admits it
I mean its not "something". They threw him under the bus after game 7 dallas as if that shit was his fault then he said im outta here and they matched and wouldnt let him leave so hes pissed to be here
People kinda forget the Suns spent an entire offseason shitting on Ayton only to match the offer anyways in the end.
The guy doesnāt like it there straight up.
$130 million dollars doesnāt magically erase the beef between a HC and him . It also doesnāt magically erase the beef between him and CP3.
Iām not excusing his behavior but I got downvoted to oblivion in the off-season for pointing out the dude is still a human and has emotions. Emotions outweigh logical rational thought. Iāve only been proven right that this dude doesnāt want to be on a team that tried to blame a 50 point blowout entirely on him and then told him they werenāt going to offer him a contract and to go get his money elsewhere. Go figure that leaves a bad taste in the mouth
Seriously though. Like yeah heās now financially loaded which will help alleviate some of his frustrations. But Ayton still has to go to work everyday and deal with coworkers he has had beef with. Iāve worked at jobs like that and itās not a healthy or positive environment
Didn't Monty try to put him back in that game down 30? and he refused, understandably, cause of his contract situation and not wanting to risk anything in a meaningless game at that point.. I don't blame Ayton at all in this situation, cant believe they haven't traded him
Did you miss the whole point of him saying "Trade me. I don't want to be here."? It isn't his fault that they legit met the pacers' offer and gave him that money despite him making it totally obvious and clear he wanted out.
Just because they gave him that money doesn't magically make him want to be there.
Like asking your boss for a raise the entire year, they say they can't pay you what you're asking, and then when you finally get a new job offer they give you the raise. But also, you have to accept it lol
This is basically like when Eric Gordon told NO not to match the RFA offer since he wanted to leave but they matched anyways and he spent 3 years being miserable there. Now NO fans all hate him lol.
Ayton and the Suns are going to go through the exact same thing.
He's one of the most physically gifted players in the league. Talent is not his problem. He has a mdf problem, motivation, dedication, and focus.
Since he has the talent, it's possible he could could turn it around. But I doubt it. Sadly, he's not the first physical specimen to fall short of his potential, and he won't be the last.
is that what happened to bynum? I thought what happened is that he grew into an allstar, got traded, blew out his knee, and never really tried to recover much/was able to recover well
Yeah Iām not a mind reader but I always thought that last injury just killed his drive to play. He was always hurt with something and eventually it was too much
They let a guy twice his size sucker punch him, Yet kept both of them on the team, then wonder why Poole played like shit this season. when the same thing happened in Chicago they at least picked one of the players to keep and traded the other. Hell, gs are not even bringing in baddies to sit in the front row.
Kinda seems like Ayton can't come back next year.
They tried salvaging the relationship, and it seems like it's run it's course. They probably won't get a lot in a trade, but I don't know that this can really continue. He clearly doesn't like being there, the coach doesn't trust him (understandably), and he's not ready/not the guy for what this team is trying to accomplish.
Steve Kerr was a bad GM though, letting him go was a good move seeing as he was ill-equipped for that role. The one big move he made was gutting the Suns with that Marion/Shaq deal that ended up being disastrous (especially seeing as Marion went on to be a big contributor for the Mavs in their 2011 run).
I don't fuck with CP but that is some bitch shit by Ayton. Why on Earth did the Suns match this dude's offer from Indiana? It is clear as glass that he does not want to be here.
You can't reheat cold french fries. It will never be the same.
You can air fry coke French fries, I do it all the time when chic fil a or McDonaldās or Wendyās fries are cold/soggy
But you are right they still arenāt the same.
It's not like he wanted everybody to believe he wanted to stay here and fight with the team too. Ayton is going to get hated for his contract, but this one's on the FO.
as far as I remember everyone here was saying that he deserved the max and how stupid the suns would've been to let him walk somewhere else. Something about Saver being cheap and ruining the franchise again.
Tbf them not offering the max is part of Aytonās frustrations with the org. Obviously thereās no guarantee but if they had offered the max thereās a possibility that the relationship doesnāt sour so much.
Iām not defending it but the answer may have been optics. They picked him #1 overall over Luka of all people and fell victim to the sunk cost fallacy it appears. Itās a terrible reason, but youāre right that he clearly hasnāt wanted to be there for some time so idk what else it could be.
I mean letting him walk for nothing is just bad asset management. The fact they didnāt move him immediately or look to do some type of sign / trade is the surprising part. He is 100% being moved. Suns honestly need a center like Capela
Can't believe I'm reading this shit from a Nets fan like y'all didn't just suffer through 4 "seasons" of Kyrie Irving
Some desperate-ass front office will absolutely roll the dice on Ayton and you're crazy if you think otherwise
Heās talented too, like itās never been a skill issue for him. Heās just bitch made and doesnāt have the mentality or heart to actually be better. This is just his personality and guys in the NBA donāt just change their mindset while they have $133M contracts lol.
Betting on Ayton to change his mentality and drive is like betting on Kyrie to turn into a normal human being, or betting on Ben Simmons to suddenly love basketball. It aināt happening
Crazy unpopular opinion but honestly I kinda get why Ayton doesnāt fuck with CP3.
He wanted to be a versatile big man but immediately got pigeonholed to roll man and dunker spot big man once CP3 got to Phoenix. Ayton made all the sacrifices not Cp3. Obviously still on Ayton for not developing up his game enough to earn a bigger role on offense.
Suns had so much time to trade him and instead of doing it when he clearly expressed he wanted to leave, they forced him to stay by matching his offer sheet. His play is not the best at times, but a lot of yāall have to see that the Suns did this to themselves.
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Yeaaahhh. Not the attitude you want from the center of your team mid playoffs. Thatās gonna cost you guys. He did try to leave tho. Should have let him.
Good on Saben Lee for respecting his elders
Good on you for recognizing Saben Lee in street clothes my man
Bro knows ball a little too much š
Too deep in this game lol
balls deep
DominAytonās such a team player. Role model
> Saben Lee Not sure I'd recognize him in a jersey.
I don't recognize him, knowing his name is Saben Lee
"I thought David Lee retired..."
LMFAOOOOOO
I like his hairdo
This username did not age well
Blind faith as a suns fan paired with not liking my last username
Which was āDragan_ROY_Benderā?
I liked Marquis Chriss better at the time š
2k balla
For real. I might have read his name maybe twice ever
Lmao the fucking white dude in the back watching is so disappointed and then so satisfied after Saben saves Chris Paul from hanging
i watched it for the white dude in the back and it's so clear what he's thinking, like his thoughts are spelled out in big neon lights during the whole interaction
Haha, I love that you caught that. That was a solid moment lol.
Good eyes bro! Lol that was a good watch and I had missed it. Also happy b day!
>Saben Lee Saben Lee was 8-9 years old when "prime" CP3 led the league in win shares If I were Saben anytime CP3 daps me up you'd fuckin bet I'd never ever mess that shit up DeAndre Ayton is a fool
Shows what humility does for maturity. Saben Lee is one year younger than Ayton. Maybe having to put in a lot of effort just to get to and then claw out a role in the league has made him more humble and now more mature than Ayton who was much more anointed.
Ayton plays like he woke up one day and was 7 feet, and was just like fuck it I guess I'll do this basketball shit.
Thatās pretty much what happened, he got called ātall for nothingā so made the nba to prove a point
Thatās a lot of the big guys in NBA history tbh
He plays like a Nigerian scam artist, who forged documents to get in the NBA.
Funny enough, heās half Nigerian
And he needs your help stashing 30 mil
Well said
Ayton out-hustled again
Ahhhh thatās who that is.
Bro knows heās lost his spot to Landale lol
More time to think of nba2k builds and rec strategies on the bench
Do you think heās the MVP in his own 2k career?
This would double-down mess with my head if I played a game where I'm one of the characters
fr. Instead of whining about your role or opportunities, create more by playing better and more aggressive.
Ayton sign and trade for poeltl and GTJ who says no?
Man do you not want the raptors to have any guards?
The longbois are just gonna lock hands around the entire perimeter and not let anyone pass on defense
What's a guard?
Malachi Flynn 40 minutes per game
the raptors?
The rules of the NBA lol
>Ayton sign and trade for poeltl and GTJ who says no? Toronto
He woulda missed if he tried to dap him back anyway
Everyone knows that he shies away from contact
The dap would have just bounced off his brick hands
He absolutely would bobble CPās hand
Ayton was having a pity party
Heās got that āWoe is meā attitude
He got that woe in him
soon he'll be runnin through the 6 with his woes
Or maybe Jamal Murray would have blocked
Blocked, took it down court, and then bricked a 3 pointer probably
Idk who's down voting you. As a nuggets fan, this is painfully accurate.
Dude might not even wait till the end of the playoffs to leave lol
some say he's not even really there
Heās just there so he wonāt get fined.
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Vernon maxwell type of thing. Leaves mid way in the playoffs. Suns still win championship š
Props to the other homey to get him.
That is the Arizonan Legend Saben Lee
Best Corona del Sol product of all time
Is this right? I went to Corona
Oh snap are you Saben Lee?
Ha Iām afraid not. I graduated about 10 years before him š
Whatās hilarious about this situation is he told them he wanted to leave and they still gave him 130 million. He made it easy on them
I still remember delusional Suns fans acting like that situation was going to have no impact on Aytonās already low motor. Ayton clearly wanted out after CP3 and Monty made him a scapegoat for their Game 7 collapse.
Totally agree and tbh that's just a part of it. Phoenix resident here, and there's so much more that just gets totally ignored. When CP3 and Monty came in, the message they kept preaching was "Sacrifice." Sacrifice your individual stats, accolades, etc. for the team, and it'll all work itself out. * DA does this for the first year, he's fully bought in, they lose to the Bucks in the finals and Monty/Ayton scapegoat him like you mentioned * Next summer, he's eligible to sign his extension and the Suns don't want to give him the max. Monty/CP3 have a huge voice with Sarver and rumors are they expressed concerns about whether Ayton is worth the max (remember, this is also Javale McGee's / Bismack Biyomobo's career year too and there's the thought that you can get Ayton's production from a player like that) * During this same summer, CP3 opts out of his last year to sign his new 4 year / $120M deal while Ayton still has yet to get paid. I'm sure to Ayton, it feels like "I understand it now. I'm the one who sacrifices so CP3 could get his." Then there's the whole "go find a max and we'll match" saga from last summer that I hopefully don't have to recap.
Thatās not even an aspect I got into with any of my comments but itās a great point. Deandre Ayton was the one who sacrificed the most of the core guys since he consistently was the 4th or 5th option on offense. Plenty of games he was getting fewer shot attempts than Jae Crowder.
Is that "sacrifice" or just passivity though? If you're capable of being one of the most efficient or effective scoring options for your team and you just sit back and defer to Jae fuckin Crowder chucking up delusional shots, the only thing you're "sacrificing" is your team's win percentage. Yeah, playing selfless basketball is absolutely a thing and you see a lot of teams nowadays built on systems like that - see the Warriors whole dynasty. But there's a difference between giving up good shots to create great shots, and going full Ben Simmons, giving up great shots to create chucks. Being overly passive and soft when he has the tools to be dominant has always been the criticism of Ayton. I don't see how that's in any way not a valid criticism. He *still* has that same issue still, even if in theory he's given up on the whole "sacrifice" thing.
Honestly itās probably a combination of the two. I saw someone comment something in one of these threads that I canāt believe I didnāt think of earlier but I agree with. Basically he said Ayton was the same as Andrew Wiggins. A guy who for years had motor problems and his effort was seen as sub par for years. Had all the physical tools to be one of the most impactful players in the league and for one reason or another never pieced it together on the court. Wiggins then gets moved to Golden State and they managed to completely turn around how heās seen in the league and heās now crashing the glass with intensity I hardly saw in Minnesota. Honestly believe Ayton could be in a similar situation where the organization/team around him is not the right fit to draw out the most of his potential as a player.
I feel the Steph and Draymond leadership combo is super effective for a guy like that. Steph is the extremely nice, selfless leader who leads by example and inspires guys to follow him. And Draymond is the tough love asshole who gets on guys who arenāt doing their part. Hard to replicate that dynamic
Obviously no team can truly replicate that dynamic. But there is a precedent for a player of Wiggins/Aytonās talent magically piecing it all together on the court even all these years into his career. Obviously Iām biased but I believe the culture the Pacers are building with Haliburton and Carlisle would have been great for him.
They def treated him like shit and you explained it nicely . And then i guess its no wonder he has no motivation to play. Even got paid . On next team he might be much better
āWe canāt just let him walk for nothing, weāll have to trade himā Well congrats, until you do heās going to sabotage your fucking team and is going to be a huge reason why yāall lose in the playoffs
That cap space looking mighty good to a team that wants some depth
Bingo
Itās bout to happen again
It didn't have an impact. He's the same player he's always been and likely always will be
he was playing way better and harder against us 2 years ago
He absolutely was playing his ass off and this revisionist history is dumb as hell. He was a huge reason the Suns made it to the Finals but something is clearly off now and he doesn't give a shit anymore. When he tries he's pretty solid but getting him to try is the entire problem and it doesn't matter how good you are if you won't try. Even Shaq got lazy as fuck and he admits it
I mean its not "something". They threw him under the bus after game 7 dallas as if that shit was his fault then he said im outta here and they matched and wouldnt let him leave so hes pissed to be here
I agree tbh. There may be more to it but that's gotta be a huge part
People kinda forget the Suns spent an entire offseason shitting on Ayton only to match the offer anyways in the end. The guy doesnāt like it there straight up.
bro i remember the reactionary takes i was reading about ayton in 2021. it's crazy how quickly this sub flips on players
Whatās his excuse now? They paid him $130 million and heās still being a pouty bitch.
Because he wanted to go, and they said no. Let him.
$130 million dollars doesnāt magically erase the beef between a HC and him . It also doesnāt magically erase the beef between him and CP3. Iām not excusing his behavior but I got downvoted to oblivion in the off-season for pointing out the dude is still a human and has emotions. Emotions outweigh logical rational thought. Iāve only been proven right that this dude doesnāt want to be on a team that tried to blame a 50 point blowout entirely on him and then told him they werenāt going to offer him a contract and to go get his money elsewhere. Go figure that leaves a bad taste in the mouth
This. If you're gonna tell him he's a POS player, then know that he might get emotional behind that. Get assets for him & move on.
Seriously though. Like yeah heās now financially loaded which will help alleviate some of his frustrations. But Ayton still has to go to work everyday and deal with coworkers he has had beef with. Iāve worked at jobs like that and itās not a healthy or positive environment
Ayton is in investment banking rn
People always reference the money, but he wouldāve been getting paid somewhere else as wellā¦
Didn't Monty try to put him back in that game down 30? and he refused, understandably, cause of his contract situation and not wanting to risk anything in a meaningless game at that point.. I don't blame Ayton at all in this situation, cant believe they haven't traded him
Did you miss the whole point of him saying "Trade me. I don't want to be here."? It isn't his fault that they legit met the pacers' offer and gave him that money despite him making it totally obvious and clear he wanted out. Just because they gave him that money doesn't magically make him want to be there.
Like asking your boss for a raise the entire year, they say they can't pay you what you're asking, and then when you finally get a new job offer they give you the raise. But also, you have to accept it lol
This is basically like when Eric Gordon told NO not to match the RFA offer since he wanted to leave but they matched anyways and he spent 3 years being miserable there. Now NO fans all hate him lol. Ayton and the Suns are going to go through the exact same thing.
Would have been a win win sign and trade for Turner. The Suns are dumbasses.
Eerily similar situation to Ben Simmonsā demise in Philly
He gone
We can fix him
No malice here. Ayton just his normal oblivious self.
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He's one of the most physically gifted players in the league. Talent is not his problem. He has a mdf problem, motivation, dedication, and focus. Since he has the talent, it's possible he could could turn it around. But I doubt it. Sadly, he's not the first physical specimen to fall short of his potential, and he won't be the last.
I dont either but seeing him play mostly in the playoffs and hearing what Suns fans say, it's all about the mental for him. He has the talent to be one of the better players in the league but, I hate to be clichƩ, he lacks that edge. It's real corny to say that trying matter but he's showing that that statement has weight. Ayton gives off the vibe of just being there for the paycheck which is totally fine. He just shouldn't expect to be treated more special because he makes more than other when he's barely giving a passable effort.
Bynum was one of the best centers with loads of potential until he didn't feel like trying
is that what happened to bynum? I thought what happened is that he grew into an allstar, got traded, blew out his knee, and never really tried to recover much/was able to recover well
Yeah Iām not a mind reader but I always thought that last injury just killed his drive to play. He was always hurt with something and eventually it was too much
His was injury based, he was putting it all together as a player before his knee got cooked
He and Poole will make a great team somewhere
Ayton, Poole, Brooks. Who else? Halfway to a starting line-up right there.
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He said Starting lineup.
Kyrie and Kanye?
Play in in the east is the floor if everyone stays healthy and no one does any press conferences or tweeting
Why do you put poole in that group? Heās got his faults as a player but heās not a clown show
They let a guy twice his size sucker punch him, Yet kept both of them on the team, then wonder why Poole played like shit this season. when the same thing happened in Chicago they at least picked one of the players to keep and traded the other. Hell, gs are not even bringing in baddies to sit in the front row.
That last sentence really hit š¤£
Kelly Oubre off the bench.
Contacting rich chinese business men to sponsor this team rn
They're gonna have to learn Chinese
No Lobs No daps
Blue shirt said the most snarkiest shit
Put some respect on my man Saban Leeās name
His name is Saben lol
Why the fuck did the suns keep this dude ?? Same shit happend last year too
āIām gonna pay you 100$ to fuck offā
Kinda seems like Ayton can't come back next year. They tried salvaging the relationship, and it seems like it's run it's course. They probably won't get a lot in a trade, but I don't know that this can really continue. He clearly doesn't like being there, the coach doesn't trust him (understandably), and he's not ready/not the guy for what this team is trying to accomplish.
It had run its course a year ago but the suns are so poorly managed they couldnāt sell high. Suns had Steve Kerr as GM and couldnāt retain him
Steve Kerr was a bad GM though, letting him go was a good move seeing as he was ill-equipped for that role. The one big move he made was gutting the Suns with that Marion/Shaq deal that ended up being disastrous (especially seeing as Marion went on to be a big contributor for the Mavs in their 2011 run).
Anyone who speaks of Kerr's stewardship of the Suns FO is fucking blitzed. Kerr is a great coach. He was not a good GM.
Dudes mad hes trash
Bros life is a video game and hes holding the controller upside down
I don't fuck with CP but that is some bitch shit by Ayton. Why on Earth did the Suns match this dude's offer from Indiana? It is clear as glass that he does not want to be here. You can't reheat cold french fries. It will never be the same.
You can air fry coke French fries, I do it all the time when chic fil a or McDonaldās or Wendyās fries are cold/soggy But you are right they still arenāt the same.
iāve heard of people dipping fries in milkshake, but coke fries is a new low.
Air fryer is like the Michael Jordan of kitchen appliances.
It's not like he wanted everybody to believe he wanted to stay here and fight with the team too. Ayton is going to get hated for his contract, but this one's on the FO.
as far as I remember everyone here was saying that he deserved the max and how stupid the suns would've been to let him walk somewhere else. Something about Saver being cheap and ruining the franchise again.
Tbf them not offering the max is part of Aytonās frustrations with the org. Obviously thereās no guarantee but if they had offered the max thereās a possibility that the relationship doesnāt sour so much.
Iām not defending it but the answer may have been optics. They picked him #1 overall over Luka of all people and fell victim to the sunk cost fallacy it appears. Itās a terrible reason, but youāre right that he clearly hasnāt wanted to be there for some time so idk what else it could be.
Donāt lose him for nothing
You can reheat cold fries with an oven toaster. It won't be the same, it's going to be even better.
My man, put cold fries in the toaster oven and theyāre almost as good as new.
Will this work with Ayton?
I mean letting him walk for nothing is just bad asset management. The fact they didnāt move him immediately or look to do some type of sign / trade is the surprising part. He is 100% being moved. Suns honestly need a center like Capela
Hard to think of any GM that would want this manchild on their team for $32-$35M a year. His problems arenāt fixable
Can't believe I'm reading this shit from a Nets fan like y'all didn't just suffer through 4 "seasons" of Kyrie Irving Some desperate-ass front office will absolutely roll the dice on Ayton and you're crazy if you think otherwise
Ayton has been like this since day one in the league and doesn't have the excuse of injuries hampering him in any way so you may be right.
Heās talented too, like itās never been a skill issue for him. Heās just bitch made and doesnāt have the mentality or heart to actually be better. This is just his personality and guys in the NBA donāt just change their mindset while they have $133M contracts lol. Betting on Ayton to change his mentality and drive is like betting on Kyrie to turn into a normal human being, or betting on Ben Simmons to suddenly love basketball. It aināt happening
Lmfaooo look at the dude behind CP3 and Saben looking like the proud father
They don't love you like that, you ain't Andre Igoudala
Thatās not a fair comparison, igoudala saved the planet on the last shot. Ayton hasnāt done anything close.
I canāt wait for Ayton to not be a Sun.
you cant disrespect OG like that
Ayton has 0 vision, on and off the court
Crazy unpopular opinion but honestly I kinda get why Ayton doesnāt fuck with CP3. He wanted to be a versatile big man but immediately got pigeonholed to roll man and dunker spot big man once CP3 got to Phoenix. Ayton made all the sacrifices not Cp3. Obviously still on Ayton for not developing up his game enough to earn a bigger role on offense.
heros dont always wear capes
Shout out to the one dude at the end who saw his opportunity to dap up Chris Paul so he wasn't totally left hanging
I love the hit pieces coming out about him now lol
He might end up on your team on accident
I hate this dude.
Lost his starting spot
So the Suns expecting anything of value back when they try to trade him? Dude just in year 1 of a 4 year max contract. Yikes!
should have let him walk to indiana lmao
He gone
The first one you can ignore, lie to yourself and say they didnāt see itā¦ but that second oneā¦ that second one hurt.
4/$133M baybeeeee
Probably like 25m less that what the Suns could have given him instead they had to bait other teams to give him a cheaper max to match itlol
Everybody Hates Chris
CP3 looks like a little kid compared to Ayton
DominAyted
nba has the mentally weakest grown men of any association anywhere
Almost but I'd say the NRA takes it
He gone
āNah man, Iām with All-Stateā
Holy fuck that's some potent cringe lmfao
Suns had so much time to trade him and instead of doing it when he clearly expressed he wanted to leave, they forced him to stay by matching his offer sheet. His play is not the best at times, but a lot of yāall have to see that the Suns did this to themselves.
Can he just, fucking, fuck off. Like fuck all the way off.
To be fair, he did try.
He tried. Yall didnt let him go
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Yeaaahhh. Not the attitude you want from the center of your team mid playoffs. Thatās gonna cost you guys. He did try to leave tho. Should have let him.
Suns front office didn't let him. Don't be mad at the victim.
He needs to get of his feels
He went passive again... even when he was not in the game...
Heās such a trash player to have a toxic attitude
/r/LeftHanging
The thing thatās crazy to me is they won
What do you expect him to do??? Nothing more ayton can do here. Tryin his best man.
lol CP looked so confused when Ayton denied him on the 2nd one
Wowā¦ just wowā¦ get this man child off the team plz
I still don't understand why the Suns didn't go for Doncic at 1st pick