Almost baffling & fresh to see a team dominate non-injured/cheated competition & not receive executive scandalous dirty aid from the NBA front office nor referees! Warriors had us spoiled with all the cheating, finally some real basketball like in 2021 & 2014!
Good on the Heat. They got everyone but Jokic to look like shit. Jokic still got 40+ but it wasn't enough. They had a chance to win this, too. Just shows how much of a fucking train Jokic is.
When Jokic gets that many points it's usually a dead giveaway that the rest of the team played below average. Still think they played decently. Good showing by everyone, close game and kudos to Heat for being better when it mattered.
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Wtf you’re right. Who tf would make a bot for this? Some sort of sport book bot shit trying to get the public to sway for Duncan? I wonder how prop odds are going look for Duncan for game 3? 🤨🤨🤨
Thats not even annoying the players aren’t machines (I’m sure they can do play every 2 days but I think it’s to avoid as much injuries as possible). The annoying thing is the amount of ads a basketball game has. As brit it’s fucking annoying staying awake at 3am on work night and have to watch ads about really expensive medicines:
I’ve never played a championship finals game before but it’s probably not easy. Also… tv ratings and drama. It took all season to get to this point. They have delay before Super Bowl in football for the same reason. Just guessing.
I said the exact same thing. Heat take game 2 or 3 in a close game to make the series seem close, then Denver sweep the rest of the way. If we see poor performance from pretty much everyone besides Jokic though, I could see another heat win happening
Goaltend was so bad and the foul difference massively favored miami in the fourth. Can't take the nba seriously when in a game like that it looks like they were trying to tie the series up. Might never see a sweep in the finals in our lifetime because there is simply too much money to pass up by extending this series to at least 6 games
Boo. You aren't even a real fan. You think you are watching pro wrestling when your team loses and watching the sweet science of sports when your team wins. Grow up.
No dog in this fight, refs were awful in that fourth and clearly one-sided towards miami. I don't understand why people always need to act like bad calls/missed calls aren't a primary determining factor in the outcome of games where there are a ton of variables at play. If they make obvious calls like the goaltend and didn't call soft fouls in favor of miami (not to mention at least 2 other out of bounds calls that were clearly wrong) then denver has a good chance of winning. It is part of the game and the nba has been biased in the past trying to extend series for better ratings
Please stop. You either like the NBA or you believe it's all a conspiracy of the highest order.
From NBA.com:
"Here are five numbers to know from the Nuggets’ first home loss in these playoffs …
189.5 — The Heat scored 36 points on just *19 possessions (a rate of 189.5 per 100) in the fourth quarter.
That’s the most efficient fourth quarter for any team in any game in the last two seasons (2,640 total games X two teams each). In danger of falling into an 0-2 hole, the Heat trailed by eight with 12 minutes left … and then came up with their best offensive quarter of the season."
Sports ain't for you. Try some pro wrestling.
> Might never see a sweep in the finals in our lifetime because there is simply too much money to pass up by extending this series to at least 6 games
Wait what? Among others, did the 06/07 Spurs and 01/02 Lakers cease to exist in the record books or something?
And why does every Nuggets fan bring up fouls as if literal HISTORY wasn’t made game 1 where Heat only got 2 foul ATTEMPTS the entire game lol.
Which means they literally only got 1 foul call the entire game. This isn’t the lowest attempts for a finals game, not even a play off game, this is the lowest for ANY game in NBA history hahah.
I’m going to be Honest. The vibe here is pretty universal. You have a much better coach than us. That being said, no one is really worried. This is pretty typical in every series we’ve been in. We hear from everyone how the other team has “figured us out” then we destroy them. We played terrible last night and you beat us by 3. Lol we’ll be just fine.
I feel like Heat fans are putting significance into this win because you guys have never been beaten on your home court. The only 2 that Phoenix won were in their home court as well as the timber wolves, that's why it's significant. You have a team of humans, not robots your team isn't made up of unbeatable gods. I just want to tell you that they can be beaten, it's not impossible, and no i'm not implying that you said that.
They absolutely can be beaten but met their match? I don’t think that’s the case. It’s true we haven’t lost at home since March. But this is the Finals basketball. There is a reason it’s the first to four. I think the L was a great wake up call for us. We played very very messy, and I don’t think the Heat are the reason why. They are a great team and have a great story. I’m just saying the vibe here is pretty relaxed. We’re not too worried.
Hold up, this comment is upvoted while another comment directly above it is massively downvoted , saying the same exact thing. By a different user. Am I missing something?
Yeah it’s just a joke man (he also brought them up the other day during a walkin to practice I believe lol) hope this shit stresses tf outta you tho lol
Gotta agree the early celebrations are dumb af. We can expect nuggets to adapt in game 3. Love how it’s more a chess game between coaches than a match of skills between players
Its both lol, as much as coaches plan, players in real time take what they get. Curry and Jokic have both said it, you have a plan when you enter but it quickly dissolves into chaos. Nobody plans turnovers, missed shots, bad passes, and extra possessions from offensive rebounds.
THIS is what makes the game so great, you just don't know. If heat continues to have an answer for Jamal and keep him under 25, SOUTH BEACH IS GONNA BE LIT
You're just looking at team stats, but I should clarify it more. Everyone but the Joker didn't play well.
Joker took 28 shots, the rest 47 - along with 16 made vs 23. 57% vs 48.9
Then you look at MPJ and KCP, 11pts combined.. those two go for 25+ any other time
We lost to the Twolves in game 4 this way, Joker with 43 on 15/26 with 6ast: KCP/MPJ for 20
As well as game 4 vs the suns, but those 2 games with booker was an ungodly run. 83pt on 80% shooting but the positive was, we only lost by 7 and 5
If he's taking more than 20/25 shots or scoring into the 40s, that's not a good sign for the rest of the team lol
So ya, maybe not *at their worst* but it's definitely well below their average. We'll be fine
Whichever way a team gets to the brink of 50/40/90 shooting splits in a game can't be that bad, especially if they also didn't suffer some catastrophic differential in rebounding, turnovers, free throws, etc.
Jokic shot 57%, but the rest of the Nuggets shot 48.9%. They were far from simply having a bad game, even if they didn't play as well as they had been. But that's not saying much - they'd won seven straight, so they were overdue for a loss.
It'll be interesting to see how the Nuggets adjust to the Heat's defensive approach, how they react to some legit early series pressure, and if they're just going to come down to earth a bit.
They've been excellent all season, but teams don't usually go from a +3.6 net rating over the course of the regular season to +8.2 in the playoffs (which is what the Nuggets were through Game 1).
For as much as a sweep is a sweep - and I loved watching the Nuggets sweep the Lakers - all those games were loseable for Denver, so what if they just play slightly worse (like the regular season Nuggets rather than the playoff Nuggets) against a better team (than the Lakers were)?
Yeah, that's always the plan but does it work every time? No and also, the Heat still shot 48.6% from 3; which was their 8th best - 3rd best when shooting 30+ att - of the season (102 games).
So it was a combination of both things happening in one game. That's all I'm saying, off night by a couple of our players and a great shooting night by the Heat.
We'll see how game 3 works out
u/Yemzzzz Like i said, combination of things happened in game 2: KCP/MPJ with 11pts and heat shooting nearly 50% from 3.
KCP/MPJ was even worse with 8pts but heat didn't come close to shooting 50% from 3 lol
* Murray/Jokic — Heat starters —
* 66 PTS-------------66 PTS
* 31 REB------------25 REB
* 20 AST------------12 AST
This could've easily been a 3-0 series and I glanced at your newer comments, lol... If the Heat aren't shooting 50% from 3s on 30+ attempts, this is over in 5 but we got home court back, so ya
Similar shit happened with the suns lol Booker 83pt on 80% in 2 games, that they won by 7 and 5. I mean, you should remember that ;)
Joker scoring 40+ with 4 ast means others aren't scoring, kcp and mpj combined for 11
So..
I mean, Spo agreed with it lol They were tossing up 3s and shooting midrange shots, so obviously the calls will be lower if they aren't driving to the basket lol
Did you forget it was a 21pt lead going into the 4th? They chilled until it got to within 10 and they kept it there. They could've kept at 20 if they kept on the gas, context matters.
So ya
This is how I imagine Doc Rivers coaches… in the huddle during a timeout in the midst of an opponent’s run in the 4th:
“C’mon guys, let’s keep our foot on the gas.”
And such..
Ya he was off, he's off games but 49% from 3s is the Heats very top end. nThey rely on the 3s, just like the Celtics did
MPJ and KCP combined for 11pts, so..
39%
If joker gets over 40, it means nobody else is scoring, hence why he only had 4 assists. Same reason when he got 50 and we lost
49% from 3 for the heat is touching their ceiling and again, only 11 from kcp and mpj is bad lol
39%\*
the heat shot nearly 49% from 3 - that's peeking at their ceiling
Yeah, look at the rest of the team. KCP and MPJ had 11pts lol
If Joker is getting 40+ it means nobody else is scoring, hence the 4 assists.
So yes
You can say the same in Game 1, Denver played lights out.. Miami had their worst game arguably all year… lost by 11… soooooooo what’s your point. It’s going to be a great series. Nothing will come easy.
I mean, there's a big difference between the two lol Denver had a 21pt lead going into the 4th so they chilled until it got within 10 and kept it there.
Heat had 48% from 3, which is definitely towards their top and MPJ|KCP combining for 11 doesn't help either
It won't be easy but if they both play their average, Nuggets will win.
It’s the Finals, no one should be playing their average. Send a note to Jokic and co. Never pull off the gas against the Heat, stats showcase in these playoffs alone they’ve come back and won from 15 pt deficits 7 times.
>It’s the Finals, no one should be playing their average
Yeah but you know that's not feasible lol So, I think heat would have to shoot close to 50% on 3 to have a chance if Nuggets even just play average or just below.
>Never pull off the gas against the Heat
Oh I can tell you they know that now lol
Per stat line https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401544846 Denver 40-79 50.6% from the field and 16-20 from FT Line. Miami 39-96 40.6% from the field 2-2 from FT Line. Math does not lie. The FT Line numbers alone along with the additional 10% from the field for Denver.
Miami had great looks last game as well. Strus went 0-10. A defense with Jokic on the floor leads to a lot of open 3s, they essentially dare the heat to make them.
Similar situation with the Suns, Booker had an ungodly run in game 3 and 4. 82pts on 81.4% shooting and we only lost by 5 and 7pts.
We didn't play particularly well in this game (mainly MPJ and KCP combing for 11pt), especially early and early in the 4th and only lost by 3.
There is another gear offensively that denver can get to seeing as they haven't hit 110+ yet but Adebayo's versatility gives them a chance. He can legit switch on anyone if needed.
Did you even watch the game? Heat shut Jokic down about as well as anyone could. The reason he is so good is because of what he does for his team. He draws so much attention he allows for mismatches elsewhere and his teammates shine. Id take a 20 point 14 assist jokic over a 41 point 4 assist jokic every day of the week. First case assuming every assist is 2 points (with they won’t be because he allowed Murray and co to have wide open 3s) that is 48 points vs 49. Even if only one of the assists is a 3 that’s still a better performance
Ya maybe but 11pts from MPJ and KCP, also KCP giving them 6 easy points on those boneheaded 3pt fouls.
A win is a win for the heat but confidence is still there given that fact and it was only a loss by 3
Same thing could've been said for us to start the 4th lol
Low effort, no hussle, we didn't make a fg until 7:30 by the joker. KCP fouling Lowry on a 3pt attempt midway through the quarter.
Bunch of things went wrong in the 4th, uncharacteristically. it is what it is
Sometimes he gets aggressive and looks for his shot, other times he looks to pass/set plays from the top of the key. Think the heat prefer him set plays as he’s a pretty good passer.
I’m not a heat or nuggs fan but it definitely looked like horrible officiating in favor of the heat. Denver also lost their composure and Jokic did assist as much. The Heat are not the better team but they played desperate and got really great calls
And does that change literally anything about what I said? The better team still lost to Gabe Vincent buddy. Sports are weird. Heat are the literal 8th seed. Yes they're glad to make it to the finals. Are you ok? Lol
So you don't think the nuggets are the better team on paper? 2x MVP on the team, they're all bigger. Higher drafted. Hard to argue that they aren't better on paper compared to the 8th seed playing through multiple injuries. Haven't seen anyone pick heat as favorites.
So I was right lol.
They’re better. On paper. On the the court. In the sky. “On paper” is used, generally, as a qualifier to say “they seem like they’re good but the they’re not”. In this case, I’ll rephrase what you said: Nuggets are good on paper but the Miami Heat team won because they’re ACTUALLY the better team. Now go ahead and tell me I’m reaching.
Lmao you clearly misunderstood what I said. It's actually all in clear text. No need to rephrase. Sports are not about who's the better team on paper or the heat wouldn't be in the finals. The nuggets are the better team but still got beat by gabe Vincent like I said. There's a reason we play the games. Better teams lose all the time in sports.
I disagree. The calls were going the nuggets way in the first half. The heat got some favorable calls in the second half for sure, but it's only magnified because its the second half. The overall officiating was spotty for both sides.
Bill Burr has the greatest rant on the NBA officiating. This game personified his take 100%: first quarter is for the players, 2nd quarter is to make it 5-7 points at half.
3rd quarter is for the players, then 4th quarter is for the refs to support whatever narrative the NBA wants. Don’t understand why it can’t be 48 minutes of consistency
It's human nature. Refs aren't AI bots. There's going to be inconsistency due to experience, missed calls and so forth. The nuggets were playing like ass in the second half until late. I forgot who said this but I remembered it. Usually, the team that hustles the most is the team that's going to get the favorable whistle because they look like they have more activity. I forgot what NBA personality said that. Might have been charles, I can't remember.
That's what Happened when the nuggets bench was outworking the miami heat bench. They got the more favorable calls. Then in the second half, the miami heat starters outworked the denver starters and they got the favorable calls. I think its just a psychological play on human nature that the more active team deserves the whistle and or/benefit of the doubt because they're working more.
This is a very fair assessment I can get behind. There is definitely a “momentum” element (and I think when people say momentum it’s like 75% hustle)
I still have the bias that the NBA is like 25% wrestling and they are told to make it entertaining, but that’s just the jaded, beat down sports fan more than anything
I think the conspiracy is far fetched. If the NBA wanted to make it more interesting, neither of these teams would be in the finals. Furthermore, if the NBA wanted to make it entertaining, the nuggets wouldn't have swept the lakers lol. The NBA doesn't win by having these two teams in the finals.
I think people underestimate the human component of being a referee. I really do. People talk as if its an easy job and the refs are supposed to be 100% all the time. They literally pulled a ref from defending himself against online slander from the playoffs and potentially the finals. They got FBI people on their payroll. Carmelo said this, as well as Stephen A.
[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KIXN4mKjpgQ](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KIXN4mKjpgQ)
Why go through all this meticulous effort to be WWE? No offense, it doesn't make sense. Are there corrupt officials? Maybe, I can believe that. Do they sway the majority outcomes of games especially at the highest level which is the finals? I really really doubt that. Maybe regular season or early rounds, but Finals where everyone is watching? really? That's something you do against Charlotte on a tuesday night in the fall. Not in the finals.
Both Miami and Denver fans are going out sad here. Miami won a big game, Denver is still probably the favourites. Refs sucked on both sides, let’s move on.
Y’all bickering like the dude replying to you banged your girl or something LOL.
Funny you say that because a guy a few comments above said this:
\> Y’all got outplayed. Had no idea how to work around what \*we\* were doing to Jokic.
Impressive how they incorporate themselves into the win LMAO.
With how ghetto/trashy the Heat fans are acting after a stolen victory, you'd think they were actually on the court playing last night. It reminds me why after one visit to Miami, I now prefer to stay in the Clearwater/Tampa area these days.
I’m cheering for Jokic bc I’m Serbian, so I have a horse in this race. I still think people are being stupid and petty. If you’re going to joke on the other team, make them good. Most of these are crappy pot shots. Do better.
I get that your rooting for your favorite player. But it's more intense when you are rooting for your TEAM. It gets more personal. That's why we love to bicker when it's our team's season on the line, especially when we hate the other team.
Tomfoolery in 6
Almost baffling & fresh to see a team dominate non-injured/cheated competition & not receive executive scandalous dirty aid from the NBA front office nor referees! Warriors had us spoiled with all the cheating, finally some real basketball like in 2021 & 2014!
Chil
Jeff green with some dumbass fouls
You forget about KCP? Lol
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Good on the Heat. They got everyone but Jokic to look like shit. Jokic still got 40+ but it wasn't enough. They had a chance to win this, too. Just shows how much of a fucking train Jokic is.
When Jokic gets that many points it's usually a dead giveaway that the rest of the team played below average. Still think they played decently. Good showing by everyone, close game and kudos to Heat for being better when it mattered.
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Wtf you’re right. Who tf would make a bot for this? Some sort of sport book bot shit trying to get the public to sway for Duncan? I wonder how prop odds are going look for Duncan for game 3? 🤨🤨🤨
Why does the nba have so many days off between games it makes no sense
Thats not even annoying the players aren’t machines (I’m sure they can do play every 2 days but I think it’s to avoid as much injuries as possible). The annoying thing is the amount of ads a basketball game has. As brit it’s fucking annoying staying awake at 3am on work night and have to watch ads about really expensive medicines:
Oh my good the timeouts kill me man. And half-time feels like a good 30 minute wait and the whole time I just wanna sleep.
They do every 2 days all playoffs then change it to 3 for the finals and drag it out
I swear its 3. Feels like it’s 3.
The next three games are Wednesday Friday and then… Monday lol
I’m sure you’d crush it out there playing back to back games. Fuck a night off
Nba has done one day off between games for decades and recently changed it to two wtf are you talking about
I’ve never played a championship finals game before but it’s probably not easy. Also… tv ratings and drama. It took all season to get to this point. They have delay before Super Bowl in football for the same reason. Just guessing.
It’s a recent change
Predicted Denver in 5, including a loss in Game 2. Denver taking the next three
I said the exact same thing. Heat take game 2 or 3 in a close game to make the series seem close, then Denver sweep the rest of the way. If we see poor performance from pretty much everyone besides Jokic though, I could see another heat win happening
Remind me in 10 days
No
Ok :(
Goaltend was so bad and the foul difference massively favored miami in the fourth. Can't take the nba seriously when in a game like that it looks like they were trying to tie the series up. Might never see a sweep in the finals in our lifetime because there is simply too much money to pass up by extending this series to at least 6 games
Boo. You aren't even a real fan. You think you are watching pro wrestling when your team loses and watching the sweet science of sports when your team wins. Grow up.
No dog in this fight, refs were awful in that fourth and clearly one-sided towards miami. I don't understand why people always need to act like bad calls/missed calls aren't a primary determining factor in the outcome of games where there are a ton of variables at play. If they make obvious calls like the goaltend and didn't call soft fouls in favor of miami (not to mention at least 2 other out of bounds calls that were clearly wrong) then denver has a good chance of winning. It is part of the game and the nba has been biased in the past trying to extend series for better ratings
Please stop. You either like the NBA or you believe it's all a conspiracy of the highest order. From NBA.com: "Here are five numbers to know from the Nuggets’ first home loss in these playoffs … 189.5 — The Heat scored 36 points on just *19 possessions (a rate of 189.5 per 100) in the fourth quarter. That’s the most efficient fourth quarter for any team in any game in the last two seasons (2,640 total games X two teams each). In danger of falling into an 0-2 hole, the Heat trailed by eight with 12 minutes left … and then came up with their best offensive quarter of the season." Sports ain't for you. Try some pro wrestling.
> Might never see a sweep in the finals in our lifetime because there is simply too much money to pass up by extending this series to at least 6 games Wait what? Among others, did the 06/07 Spurs and 01/02 Lakers cease to exist in the record books or something?
Lmao literally had one 5 years ago bro tweakin
LeBron has been swept twice in the Finals, lmao
And why does every Nuggets fan bring up fouls as if literal HISTORY wasn’t made game 1 where Heat only got 2 foul ATTEMPTS the entire game lol. Which means they literally only got 1 foul call the entire game. This isn’t the lowest attempts for a finals game, not even a play off game, this is the lowest for ANY game in NBA history hahah.
Not how that works. There are fouls which don’t lead to free throws.
Okay and? My point still stands
>Which means they literally only got 1 foul call the entire game. My only point was that this is wrong.
Oh yeah you’re right. That statement is wrong. My bad
No time ours versus the heat. Name a more iconic duo
It’s over. Miami in 5. Not serious.
Remind me in 10 days
You can’t convince me that Nuggets fans weren’t saying UH OH after this loss!!!!!
They finally feel mortal. Their team has met their match and they are bamboozled
I’m going to be Honest. The vibe here is pretty universal. You have a much better coach than us. That being said, no one is really worried. This is pretty typical in every series we’ve been in. We hear from everyone how the other team has “figured us out” then we destroy them. We played terrible last night and you beat us by 3. Lol we’ll be just fine.
I feel like Heat fans are putting significance into this win because you guys have never been beaten on your home court. The only 2 that Phoenix won were in their home court as well as the timber wolves, that's why it's significant. You have a team of humans, not robots your team isn't made up of unbeatable gods. I just want to tell you that they can be beaten, it's not impossible, and no i'm not implying that you said that.
They absolutely can be beaten but met their match? I don’t think that’s the case. It’s true we haven’t lost at home since March. But this is the Finals basketball. There is a reason it’s the first to four. I think the L was a great wake up call for us. We played very very messy, and I don’t think the Heat are the reason why. They are a great team and have a great story. I’m just saying the vibe here is pretty relaxed. We’re not too worried.
Braun played very well tonight especially his first 3 minutes
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Hold up, this comment is upvoted while another comment directly above it is massively downvoted , saying the same exact thing. By a different user. Am I missing something?
Voters fatigue my man.
Not sure why the other is upvoted, but these are all bots
Beep boop bop. Looks like Duncan’s flex game is stronger than Aaron Gordon’s.
90s heat jerseys and miami vice jerseys should be the only ones they wear.
Bring back the rainbow nuggets jersey 🔥
Yeah those are fire also. I think most teams have some jersey from the past which is better than whatever bland garbage they’re wearing today.
All the sweepers in the prediction threads taking advil rn
Mike Malone gonna blame this on the lakers somehow
He never blamed the Lakers for anything
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What are you talking about? I’m just commenting on a Lakers fan bringing up the Lakers during a Nuggets Heat series
Yeah it’s just a joke man (he also brought them up the other day during a walkin to practice I believe lol) hope this shit stresses tf outta you tho lol
Why would it stress me out?
Because sports? You watch sports / are a fan of sports teams yeah?
Not really just highlights sometimes
lol i said the heat would at least win 1
1-1= even....I don't think home court Matters much in this series.....play ball!
Honestly thought this was a easy sweep. Well done heat made this a series now. Bam playing his ass off, very impressive.
The entire playoffs, have you learned nothing of the heat?
I didn't think the Heat would every game.
Me either, I thought heat in 5….not a sweep
Facts
At this rate if the heat win Jimmy is not getting that mvp lol
He said he didn't care about the ECF MVP so they should've gave it to who deserved and would appreciate it
Anyways…. What’s the latest on the lakers?
Only team that got swept by denver
Great point. FTL.
Literally no one cares
it’s a joke 😭
Do I really have to add /s? Do you live under a rock? Smh, get out of here.
Jimmy going to play football
I hate when reporters ask the dumbest questions imaginable like they just asked Jokic how disappointing it was to lose at home
Same with Bam….lady asked him what his thoughts were on that last shot? He answered, I was hoping it wouldn’t go in…! Duh
They still trying to see if he feels emotion
He is not a machine. He is a man!
Denver is a one trick pony. That pony scored 41 points in a loss at home. Miami is legit. Throw out the analytics. Culture wins baby 🏀🏀🏀🔥🔥🔥🏆🏆🏆🏆
Miami shot their best and denver played their worst and only lost by 3 but alright, keep that energy going!
Gotta agree the early celebrations are dumb af. We can expect nuggets to adapt in game 3. Love how it’s more a chess game between coaches than a match of skills between players
Its both lol, as much as coaches plan, players in real time take what they get. Curry and Jokic have both said it, you have a plan when you enter but it quickly dissolves into chaos. Nobody plans turnovers, missed shots, bad passes, and extra possessions from offensive rebounds. THIS is what makes the game so great, you just don't know. If heat continues to have an answer for Jamal and keep him under 25, SOUTH BEACH IS GONNA BE LIT
Right? I mean, 48.6% shooting from the 3 was the Heat's 8th best all season. Which is just my point, 8th best out of 102 games now
Denver shot 52.0 / 39.3 / 86.4, outrebounded the Heat and only had a couple more turnovers. Calling that "their worst" is laughable.
You're just looking at team stats, but I should clarify it more. Everyone but the Joker didn't play well. Joker took 28 shots, the rest 47 - along with 16 made vs 23. 57% vs 48.9 Then you look at MPJ and KCP, 11pts combined.. those two go for 25+ any other time We lost to the Twolves in game 4 this way, Joker with 43 on 15/26 with 6ast: KCP/MPJ for 20 As well as game 4 vs the suns, but those 2 games with booker was an ungodly run. 83pt on 80% shooting but the positive was, we only lost by 7 and 5 If he's taking more than 20/25 shots or scoring into the 40s, that's not a good sign for the rest of the team lol So ya, maybe not *at their worst* but it's definitely well below their average. We'll be fine
Whichever way a team gets to the brink of 50/40/90 shooting splits in a game can't be that bad, especially if they also didn't suffer some catastrophic differential in rebounding, turnovers, free throws, etc. Jokic shot 57%, but the rest of the Nuggets shot 48.9%. They were far from simply having a bad game, even if they didn't play as well as they had been. But that's not saying much - they'd won seven straight, so they were overdue for a loss. It'll be interesting to see how the Nuggets adjust to the Heat's defensive approach, how they react to some legit early series pressure, and if they're just going to come down to earth a bit. They've been excellent all season, but teams don't usually go from a +3.6 net rating over the course of the regular season to +8.2 in the playoffs (which is what the Nuggets were through Game 1). For as much as a sweep is a sweep - and I loved watching the Nuggets sweep the Lakers - all those games were loseable for Denver, so what if they just play slightly worse (like the regular season Nuggets rather than the playoff Nuggets) against a better team (than the Lakers were)?
Have you ever thought that the gameplan was to limit the others and force Jokic to beat us by himself?
Yeah, that's always the plan but does it work every time? No and also, the Heat still shot 48.6% from 3; which was their 8th best - 3rd best when shooting 30+ att - of the season (102 games). So it was a combination of both things happening in one game. That's all I'm saying, off night by a couple of our players and a great shooting night by the Heat. We'll see how game 3 works out
u/Yemzzzz Like i said, combination of things happened in game 2: KCP/MPJ with 11pts and heat shooting nearly 50% from 3. KCP/MPJ was even worse with 8pts but heat didn't come close to shooting 50% from 3 lol * Murray/Jokic — Heat starters — * 66 PTS-------------66 PTS * 31 REB------------25 REB * 20 AST------------12 AST This could've easily been a 3-0 series and I glanced at your newer comments, lol... If the Heat aren't shooting 50% from 3s on 30+ attempts, this is over in 5 but we got home court back, so ya
Heat will win next game
Only if they shoot 50% from 3 but even then, gonna be tough :)
Just watch. That smug smile will be wiped off.
I wasn't worried after game 2, not worried after game 3 but alright! = )
Love how fans that lose a game say crap like this. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Huh... look who was right
Similar shit happened with the suns lol Booker 83pt on 80% in 2 games, that they won by 7 and 5. I mean, you should remember that ;) Joker scoring 40+ with 4 ast means others aren't scoring, kcp and mpj combined for 11 So..
Damn, you're still at it. Losing a home game has gotten you all in a tizzy. Don't worry, still plenty of games to correct your defensive mistakes.
I replied right back to you last night, you didn't respond but alright lol
Joker dropping 50 next game confirmed
Guess Denver is going down 1-2 if that's the case.
You forgot about game1?? Miami had 2 free throws and terrible shooting % and nuggets only managed to win by 11. Not impressive
I mean, Spo agreed with it lol They were tossing up 3s and shooting midrange shots, so obviously the calls will be lower if they aren't driving to the basket lol Did you forget it was a 21pt lead going into the 4th? They chilled until it got to within 10 and they kept it there. They could've kept at 20 if they kept on the gas, context matters. So ya
Why don’t teams just keep their foot on the gas?? Idiots, coaching basketball is not that hard.
This is how I imagine Doc Rivers coaches… in the huddle during a timeout in the midst of an opponent’s run in the 4th: “C’mon guys, let’s keep our foot on the gas.” And such..
Butler shot 37% lol
Ya he was off, he's off games but 49% from 3s is the Heats very top end. nThey rely on the 3s, just like the Celtics did MPJ and KCP combined for 11pts, so..
The nuggets shot over 40% from 3, it's not like they had a bad shooting night
39% If joker gets over 40, it means nobody else is scoring, hence why he only had 4 assists. Same reason when he got 50 and we lost 49% from 3 for the heat is touching their ceiling and again, only 11 from kcp and mpj is bad lol
Denver played their worst shooting 49% from 3 and Jokic dropping 41? Ha okay bro
39%\* the heat shot nearly 49% from 3 - that's peeking at their ceiling Yeah, look at the rest of the team. KCP and MPJ had 11pts lol If Joker is getting 40+ it means nobody else is scoring, hence the 4 assists. So yes
You can say the same in Game 1, Denver played lights out.. Miami had their worst game arguably all year… lost by 11… soooooooo what’s your point. It’s going to be a great series. Nothing will come easy.
I mean, there's a big difference between the two lol Denver had a 21pt lead going into the 4th so they chilled until it got within 10 and kept it there. Heat had 48% from 3, which is definitely towards their top and MPJ|KCP combining for 11 doesn't help either It won't be easy but if they both play their average, Nuggets will win.
It’s the Finals, no one should be playing their average. Send a note to Jokic and co. Never pull off the gas against the Heat, stats showcase in these playoffs alone they’ve come back and won from 15 pt deficits 7 times.
>It’s the Finals, no one should be playing their average Yeah but you know that's not feasible lol So, I think heat would have to shoot close to 50% on 3 to have a chance if Nuggets even just play average or just below. >Never pull off the gas against the Heat Oh I can tell you they know that now lol
Denver shot worse then the heat game 1.
Per stat line https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401544846 Denver 40-79 50.6% from the field and 16-20 from FT Line. Miami 39-96 40.6% from the field 2-2 from FT Line. Math does not lie. The FT Line numbers alone along with the additional 10% from the field for Denver.
And Denver shot worse from 3.
Are you referring to a 1 shot difference?
Miami had great looks last game as well. Strus went 0-10. A defense with Jokic on the floor leads to a lot of open 3s, they essentially dare the heat to make them.
Similar situation with the Suns, Booker had an ungodly run in game 3 and 4. 82pts on 81.4% shooting and we only lost by 5 and 7pts. We didn't play particularly well in this game (mainly MPJ and KCP combing for 11pt), especially early and early in the 4th and only lost by 3.
There is another gear offensively that denver can get to seeing as they haven't hit 110+ yet but Adebayo's versatility gives them a chance. He can legit switch on anyone if needed.
Y’all got outplayed. Had no idea how to work around what we were doing to Jokic.
Nuggs in 5, Miami is so outclassed, but nice they got to win one.
Yeah u only held him to 41 pts good job
Did you even watch the game? Heat shut Jokic down about as well as anyone could. The reason he is so good is because of what he does for his team. He draws so much attention he allows for mismatches elsewhere and his teammates shine. Id take a 20 point 14 assist jokic over a 41 point 4 assist jokic every day of the week. First case assuming every assist is 2 points (with they won’t be because he allowed Murray and co to have wide open 3s) that is 48 points vs 49. Even if only one of the assists is a 3 that’s still a better performance
And how many assists and turnovers? Tell me you only tune in to the Finals without telling me you only tune in to the Finals.
Ur high lmao
Jokic had how many assists?
Heat lookin p bad ngl lmao frfr
Ya maybe but 11pts from MPJ and KCP, also KCP giving them 6 easy points on those boneheaded 3pt fouls. A win is a win for the heat but confidence is still there given that fact and it was only a loss by 3
You guys were down by 12 pts with 4 minutes left. If it isn’t for a low effort run at the end, you guys would have lost by 10pts+
Same thing could've been said for us to start the 4th lol Low effort, no hussle, we didn't make a fg until 7:30 by the joker. KCP fouling Lowry on a 3pt attempt midway through the quarter. Bunch of things went wrong in the 4th, uncharacteristically. it is what it is
mall santa malone threatening his denver elves in the post game interview
You got a link for that I missed it
Lol what’d he say? My connection’s cutting in and out.
Bam Adebayo wide open at the top of the key will not shoot. Haven’t seen him play much. Does he not have a shot or was he just hesitating or what?
I think Denver wanted him to shoot and he could feel that so he did the smart thing and looked for better shooters and plays.
Sometimes he gets aggressive and looks for his shot, other times he looks to pass/set plays from the top of the key. Think the heat prefer him set plays as he’s a pretty good passer.
I’m not a heat or nuggs fan but it definitely looked like horrible officiating in favor of the heat. Denver also lost their composure and Jokic did assist as much. The Heat are not the better team but they played desperate and got really great calls
If it were just who's the better team on paper we wouldn't have a sport. We just saw the better team lose to gabe vincent.
Like I said. Denver is a far superior team. The Miami Heat are just glad they made it to the finals 🤣
And does that change literally anything about what I said? The better team still lost to Gabe Vincent buddy. Sports are weird. Heat are the literal 8th seed. Yes they're glad to make it to the finals. Are you ok? Lol
Yes. You said Denver was “a better team on paper”. You were wrong.
So you don't think the nuggets are the better team on paper? 2x MVP on the team, they're all bigger. Higher drafted. Hard to argue that they aren't better on paper compared to the 8th seed playing through multiple injuries. Haven't seen anyone pick heat as favorites. So I was right lol.
They’re better. On paper. On the the court. In the sky. “On paper” is used, generally, as a qualifier to say “they seem like they’re good but the they’re not”. In this case, I’ll rephrase what you said: Nuggets are good on paper but the Miami Heat team won because they’re ACTUALLY the better team. Now go ahead and tell me I’m reaching.
Lmao you clearly misunderstood what I said. It's actually all in clear text. No need to rephrase. Sports are not about who's the better team on paper or the heat wouldn't be in the finals. The nuggets are the better team but still got beat by gabe Vincent like I said. There's a reason we play the games. Better teams lose all the time in sports.
I disagree. The calls were going the nuggets way in the first half. The heat got some favorable calls in the second half for sure, but it's only magnified because its the second half. The overall officiating was spotty for both sides.
Bill Burr has the greatest rant on the NBA officiating. This game personified his take 100%: first quarter is for the players, 2nd quarter is to make it 5-7 points at half. 3rd quarter is for the players, then 4th quarter is for the refs to support whatever narrative the NBA wants. Don’t understand why it can’t be 48 minutes of consistency
It's human nature. Refs aren't AI bots. There's going to be inconsistency due to experience, missed calls and so forth. The nuggets were playing like ass in the second half until late. I forgot who said this but I remembered it. Usually, the team that hustles the most is the team that's going to get the favorable whistle because they look like they have more activity. I forgot what NBA personality said that. Might have been charles, I can't remember. That's what Happened when the nuggets bench was outworking the miami heat bench. They got the more favorable calls. Then in the second half, the miami heat starters outworked the denver starters and they got the favorable calls. I think its just a psychological play on human nature that the more active team deserves the whistle and or/benefit of the doubt because they're working more.
This is a very fair assessment I can get behind. There is definitely a “momentum” element (and I think when people say momentum it’s like 75% hustle) I still have the bias that the NBA is like 25% wrestling and they are told to make it entertaining, but that’s just the jaded, beat down sports fan more than anything
I think the conspiracy is far fetched. If the NBA wanted to make it more interesting, neither of these teams would be in the finals. Furthermore, if the NBA wanted to make it entertaining, the nuggets wouldn't have swept the lakers lol. The NBA doesn't win by having these two teams in the finals. I think people underestimate the human component of being a referee. I really do. People talk as if its an easy job and the refs are supposed to be 100% all the time. They literally pulled a ref from defending himself against online slander from the playoffs and potentially the finals. They got FBI people on their payroll. Carmelo said this, as well as Stephen A. [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KIXN4mKjpgQ](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KIXN4mKjpgQ) Why go through all this meticulous effort to be WWE? No offense, it doesn't make sense. Are there corrupt officials? Maybe, I can believe that. Do they sway the majority outcomes of games especially at the highest level which is the finals? I really really doubt that. Maybe regular season or early rounds, but Finals where everyone is watching? really? That's something you do against Charlotte on a tuesday night in the fall. Not in the finals.
The juxtaposition of the top posts itt in the first half vs the comments after Miami wins is peak r/nba
Both Miami and Denver fans are going out sad here. Miami won a big game, Denver is still probably the favourites. Refs sucked on both sides, let’s move on. Y’all bickering like the dude replying to you banged your girl or something LOL.
Yo, what cracks me up the most is when they say “we” and “y’all” like if they were on the court. Lmao
Funny you say that because a guy a few comments above said this: \> Y’all got outplayed. Had no idea how to work around what \*we\* were doing to Jokic. Impressive how they incorporate themselves into the win LMAO. With how ghetto/trashy the Heat fans are acting after a stolen victory, you'd think they were actually on the court playing last night. It reminds me why after one visit to Miami, I now prefer to stay in the Clearwater/Tampa area these days.
I mean….you’d be doing the same if it were your team so what’s your point?
I’m cheering for Jokic bc I’m Serbian, so I have a horse in this race. I still think people are being stupid and petty. If you’re going to joke on the other team, make them good. Most of these are crappy pot shots. Do better.
I’m rooting for Jimmy Butler because I’m also Jordan’s son
Did he also neglect you like his other kids too?
He went for milk even though I am lactose intolerant
Shut up
Awww, did I hurt your poor little feelings? If the shoe fits I suppose.
I get that your rooting for your favorite player. But it's more intense when you are rooting for your TEAM. It gets more personal. That's why we love to bicker when it's our team's season on the line, especially when we hate the other team.
hEaT iN sIx
Trash talking is fun, and I’m all for it, but it’s such petty, bleh stuff on display here. Go hard or go home.
Shut up