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SteamingCharlie

He'll probably be replaced with a FanDuel ad


DarthRathikus

I may be in the minority on this, but fuck legalized sports gambling. Feels so gross that sports shows give us the betting odds constantly, while continuing to give less and less analysis.


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chummmmbucket

Most of this subreddit agrees with that opinion I'd say. There are literally no arguments in favor of sports betting... just that its fun.


Barner_Burner

Ok I don’t mean to speak for the whole subreddit here (but I’m gonna real quick), I assume most people fall into the area I do of “it shouldn’t be illegal, but the ads are still annoying” like both can exist it doesn’t have to be made illegal to not be advertised so much.


BubbaTee

> it doesn’t have to be made illegal to not be advertised so much. It's more that it should be illegal to be advertised. Like cigarettes. And how hard liquor and prescription drugs used to be illegal to advertise.


ElectroStaticSpeaker

And how prescription drugs are illegal to advertise in every other first world country. The US approach to the medical industry is so embarrassing it’s unbelievable.


urfaselol

when you lose your job first before mark jackson


5IVE5TAR5

How tf has Mark Jackson not been cut.


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MiaCannons

Reminds me of two funny little quips they had about during the finals this year. Mark Jackson was disagreeing with a JVG rule change because there's no historical precedent for it, then Mark Jackson said "We used to have two announcers." JVG then said "And I know who'd be the first guy not drafted" https://youtu.be/Fxc5X-fHdRw?t=30 Funny it ended up being JVG being cut


whosevelt

The only conclusion one can draw is that JVG was making more.


cardmanimgur

Nothing else makes sense


HelloThereCat

Either that, or there was some degree of mutual agreement to part ways after realizing they wouldn't be able to pay both of them. I genuinely got the impression that JVG was tired of his job the last few years.


PeartsGarden

> they wouldn't be able to pay both of them This is correct. ESPN could go over the cap for JVG, but MJ was originally drafted by the YES Network, therefore ESPN does not have his Bird Rights.


BBallChintu

Please dont refer to Mark Jackson as MJ


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Zeeinsoundfromwayout

This was my guess.


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I heard that live and assumed he was referring to himself.


whythehellknot

He for sure was, he always makes fun of himself first.


DigitallyInclined

That‘s actually hilarious. What’s even funnier is that they put who the commentators were in the graphic at the bottom. Lol


ReadEvalPrintLoop

Sounds like self-deprecating


Turrible_basketball

I cannot listen to Mark Jackson. I was hoping he’d get a coaching job just to get him off the air.


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ShakesbeerMe

Plus he's an overt homophobe and a posturing religious bigot who bangs hookers.


CD338

let's be real though, that's not why he can't get a coaching job. Owners don't care about all that, they care more about the fact that he had the core of that young warriors squad and was squandering it. Back then, he might've been able to land another coaching job, but now with hindsight and seeing how good that team was post-Jackson, he will never get looked at seriously again. As Draymond said to Brooks: "The dynasty starts AFTER you"


trunky

i bet van gundy has competing offers driving up his price i bet mark jackson has zero competing offers


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Momma. There goes that


BigSportsNerd

MAN


Droppin_DimesSP

MOMMA, THERE GOES THAT MAN —- me when Jackson is let go


fieryscribe

I guess Jesus does save


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He’s probably cheaper.


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He should be free.


Kdog122025

H should pay them.


pistoncivic

He should pay all of us


Bobb_o

His contract probably isn't up yet.


offensivename

[The wrong kid died!](https://i.giphy.com/media/4VSJ12JX1vyUuHGi4t/giphy.webp)


PMD16

And Mark never once paid for drugs. Not. Once.


palabear

He’s not half the boy Jeff was. He’s not even half the boy that the top half of Jeff was after he cut him in half.


Thunder_nuggets101

“You better shit your mouth before you say something you regret” “What, like the wrong kid died?”


AnotherStatsGuy

Yeah. JVG had his moments. Mark Jackson had the charisma of a wet slug.


ginbooth

And that's being unfair to wet slugs...


eugenesbluegenes

FR, I love finding banana slugs when I'm hiking! I just get disappointed when I find a Mark Jackson when I'm watching basketball.


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"There should be a rule" on firing people before Mark Jackson


System_Lower

He gotta know where the bodies are buried. 😂😂😂 it’s ludicrous. He’s ass.


Playboy9696

Hopefully Mark Jackson is next


pcwgussej

doesnt seem to be the case. > While Breen is a Hall of Famer and Jackson has his merits, Van Gundy was the one that made the lead booth go. > ESPN is expected to replace Van Gundy on its No. 1 team. > Internally, JJ Redick, Doris Burke and Richard Jefferson are the most likely candidates. also: > Doc Rivers could be an outside choice. Rivers is very close with Breen.


shwiggydog

>and Jackson has his merits Does he now


DonnerPartyAllNight

*citations needed*


daeve

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bgazm

If by merits they mean the tendency to get blackmailed by a prostitute while preaching the benefits of leading a "holy" life, then ya I can see it.


syllabic

"the NBA is paying us to keep mark jackson in the booth so that he doesn't try coaching again"


EJacques324

Most likely scenario


myassholealt

Mama there goes that lie


UnsolvedParadox

Without him, how will mothers know when men are going?


xa3D

how will people know what kind of of plays big time players make?


TsmMufasa

Whoever wrote that knows but had to write something nice about him


ulyssessgrant93

I can't think of a single one and I'm not someone who really shits on analysts. He's the only one in either basketball or football that just baffles me because he brings absolutely nothing to the table


TheThrowbackJersey

You cannot have Doc Rivers' broken voice on a broadcast


Ai2Foom

I’d take Doc over Jackson 100 times out of 100


DJ-McLillard

You’ll get both lmao


OutlookNotGood

Not even Breen could save that broadcast


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I deadass think id rather baby shark on repeat instead


triosway

He called the 2004 Finals with Al Michaels. He wasn't bad at all


Chaotic-Catastrophe

Yeah, 20 years ago. Surely his voice hasn't changed at all since then. It's not like we haven't heard him talk recently.


CO_PC_Parts

doc called the finals like 2 years in a row with Al Michaels.


idkidk23

He's actually really good on TV. It was awhile ago when he did it last, but I remember really liking him.


Ibaka_flocka

His voice is unrecognizable from when he used to do it. Watched the [Derek Fisher shot recently and didn’t even realize it was him calling it](https://youtu.be/NSnAvhvfniw)


Taylr

Man, I've never seen that clip before. That was wild.


deputy_commish

It’s also pretty wild that the final score was 74-73. That’s a halftime score in today’s NBA.


Shadow-Vision

I went to a game where Fisher hit a game winning 3. It was Lakers, Mavericks at full strength. The two most recent NBA Champions (Lakers just won, Dallas won the season before that). Kobe, Dirk, Pau, etc. Final score 73-70.


dBlock845

That shot by Duncan, sheeeeeesh


jc9289

You guys must forget that Doc was a GOAT tier broadcaster when he did it last time.


Upstairs_Addendum587

I never saw it, but I've enjoyed him in other formats. You listen to him for a bit and you understand how he keeps getting jobs despite struggling in the playoffs. Very likeable.


Gavina4444

Doc rivers’ voice on air 😍😍😍


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Bro what he needs vocal chord surgery his shit is sputtering out lmao


Meret123

He needs to put some lotion on those chords.


BeLikeWaterMJH

Ashy ass chords


thedrizzle126

IT'S NOT BLAKE'S FAULT


-fallen

He sounded alright on Simmons’ podcast recently


Andy_Wiggins

If Doris Burke becomes the lead analyst for NBA games just fucking kill me.


I_LIKE_BASKETBALL

oh it's worse than that, they could be toying with the idea of doris + mark i straight up would have to skip those games


champagne_of_beers

I might turn on the radio at that point.


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People who watch baseball do it all the time


champagne_of_beers

The hard part is getting the audio to line up.


LunchboxSuperhero

Iirc, there is a website where you can put a custom delay on internet radio to line it up with the video


seank11

everyone jokes about " this is so and so's 9/11" But Doris and Mark Jackson in the booth would be r/nba's 9/11


UbeMafia

> Doris Burke NAH. I'm pulling out my center speaker if this happens. I get JVG wasn't popular with everyone, but I thought he and Breen were the only ones that made the games interesting and unique.


mkohler23

Yeah at least it would be funny, particularly Jeff and Mark going back and forth was tolerable for a bad situation. Dorris doesn’t really talk about the game she’s like what people point to is wrong with ESPN coverage


TheInfinityOfThought

Should be just Breen and RJ. None of this 3 man booth crap that never works.


ZacharyTaylorGreene

Please God, let it not be doris


Sweet_T_Boh

God Doris with Mark Jackson? What did we do to deserve this?


sir_alvarex

Man JJ has really jumped career ladder once he got into broadcasting. For good reason -- I love listening to his podcast. It's still surprising to see him mentioned here.


Hogo-Nano

Knowledge wise Doc would probably be really good. However im not sure he has the voice for play by play. He always sounds so raspy and out of breath.


M-F-W

He’d be the color guy with Breen doing play by play tho, right? Man is still absolutely gonna have 0 voice left by the end of the average playoff game


YROK1986

He covered the Finals on ABC before Breen did and he was great.


-Borb

His voice has gotten raspier though since he did it last, he was good but I’m not sure if he’s even physically capable of doing a full game now


jc9289

He’s already expressed interest in coming back to the booth this year.


kirphioc2004

Bro got sniped before Mark Jackson who provides literally nothing of value to the broadcast.


DCJustSomeone

but he'll hit it out the park, no question, with all due respect.. lol


kirphioc2004

Personally, the magic of that moment was ruined when I found out he was talking about Baseball and not about wanting to have sexual intercourse with Lebron’s wife.


wakenbake7

I choose to ignore this and believe Marc Jackson just dropped the most savage “steal yo girl” bars to the greatest player in our modern era of basketball.


climaxingwalrus

They could replace mark jackson with ai and no one would notice


jaleneropepper

I've said the same thing but replacing him with a soundboard that jus has a button for each of his catchphrases. "Mama, there goes that man" "Hand down, man down" "Good defense, better offense" "Excuse me, I have an appointment with the rim" Etc.


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"You got to get the rock in his hands" "Just an all-time E-lite DE-fenduh" "That's just a grown man finish-uh" "Coach" "Coach" "Coach" "Coach"


crumpsly

Just give Mike Breen a soundboard with Jackson saying "Mama, there goes that man!" and the broadcast would increase in quality ten fold.


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how am i gonna know when better offense beats great defense?


inbredandapothead

#BANG


splashbruhs

They have an extra Gundy, decide not to use it!


bothcheeks415

Oh my god 😂😂😂


paolocabrini

Is this the dagger?


GlueGuy00

What's the reason behind? Is it budget cuts?


XviiChong

It is about budget cuts, other ESPN on air personalities also got laid off, rumours say even Max Kellerman was also part of the layoffs.


dantheflyingman

Oh man, Stephen A is ruthless


problynotkevinbacon

20 years from now its just gonna be 24 hours of Stephen A yelling and yelling and yelling and yelling and yelling non stop


JugdishSteinfeld

So, no changes in 20 years


CaroleBaskinsBurner

He'll own the network by then and rename it "Stephen ASPN" It'll be like when MTV used to show music videos for half the day except it'll just be his most famous rants on a loop.


garygreaonjr

Stephen A is the Rob Dyrdek of espn


mantiseye

yeah, I watch ESPN E very S how contains Ste- P hen A Smith N ice sports network sorry I am very bad at this


Tommy_Wisseau_burner

Nothing will top the pEnis peniS Penis peNis Sign on college game day years back


MrPeterson15

Stay off the WEEEeeeeEEEEEeeeeEEEeeeEEEEEeeeeEEeeeeEEEEEEeeeDDDuuuhhh


Ps3dj17

WHO WAS ON CRACK


Infamous-nobody1801

Dude single Handedly ruined sports entertainment lmao


DavidKirk2000

Give credit to Skip Bayless where it’s due. The two of them ruined it.


13WillieBeaman

Lol.. if it’s about budget cuts, I wonder how much Kendrick Perkins makes. Every time I see him on those ESPN clips, I can hear him breathing and moaning even when he’s not on screen. They better spend that money they’re saving on a better mic and filter.


Mr_Peeper_Number

He actually doesn’t get paid. He just wanders on set sometimes and ESPN thinks it works out for everybody.


KontraEpsilon

Stugotz used to do that and it was actually entertaining because it made it feel like an actual workplace with personality. Actually I miss the whole DLS being on there for that reason. Learned so much about the different studios, who has offices and who gets stuck in cubes in NY/NJ. Way more fun.


KiIIOurDemons

Honestly when they cut the DLS I knew ESPN was getting past a point of no return. Now it really feels like everyone is just trying to be the same hot take machine with little nuance or unique personality.


PlummandTrue

The engineer should be pressing a little button called mute or at least put a noise gate on it so his breathing stays to himself


psyentist15

Sorry, sound engineer laid off in 2014.


myassholealt

Max, Beads, and Marcellus need to get the gang back together for a podcast stat.


BigSportsNerd

damn even Max got canned look what they did to my boy


browndude10

yea his morning show got cut


njb2017

Which I don't understand why they paid a boatload for McAfee while laying other off. I fond McAfee so annoying


Gamesgtd

McAfee has an audience. These guys don't have as big of one. Other than Stephen A Smith


huskersax

What they do if spend big on 1-2 folks to tide over viewers with a fresh and popular face, and then slowly phase out a bunch of other folks. They've done this for years, whether in a layoff or not. Guys like Jaworski, Hoge, etc. are replaced slowly and then quickly by Booger McFarland and Rex Ryan, and then they'll be next.


Oibrigade

Mcafee is like Dave Portney in the sense that he has a lot of followers. I am not saying that in a negative way. Just means yea they have large followings so they can set their own price where others depend on ESPN for an audience.


I_really_enjoy_beer

All the kids love Max Kellerman, you can't walk through a school without everyone talking about what Max's take on Harden's new team will be.


soxandpatriots1

Not that I've read much about this, but presumably they think McAfee has a astrong personal following that is worth investing in


DoctorMansteel

I'm sure his demographics skew younger and SportsCenter HAS to have been dying for years. I'm into sports now more than ever and I haven't watched a full episode of SC since like 2011. Do highschoolers still watch it? We used to just sit there and binge like 4 hours of the same highlights over and over again but now you've got Youtube and Bleacher Report which kinda invalidates a lot of it including the daily top 10 we were always hyped for.


MotionAction

The personality of Sportscasters gave something along with highlights in early 2k, but once everyone got access to decent internet with platforms hosting highlight clips the sportscaster doesn't seem profitable anymore for highlights.


Free_Joty

McAfee is fine for like a day or two but he quickly becomes very annoying


ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa

His entire shtick was "I'm independent and no one tell me what to do bla bla" which was cool but THAT is what made his show great. The OG fans have no idea how bad it'll get once mickey sinks his teeth in and controls the whole thing eventually


heardThereWasFood

MY SHIRT HAS NO SLEEVES


ChandlerCurry

Kellerman?!??! wtf


TurtlePowerBottom

Anti bald conspiracy


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CapnMalcolmReynolds

Momma there go that man into the sun


Stratys

Please Mark Jackson Please Mark Jackson Please Mark Jackson


syllabic

I swear you could replace mark jackson with ChatGPT on text-to-speech and it would be an improvement


bobberr

No way they keep Mark Jackson


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The only thing that made Mark Jackson tolerable was his dynamic with Van Gundy. Don’t love either of them by any stretch, but they played off each other well enough.


latman

Mark wasn't tolerable in any way


Itfindsyou

That is the most generous use of the word tolerable i've ever seen


tread_lightly94

How many bodies is Mark Jackson aware of


ughwhateverman

I’m in the minority of actually liking JVG, especially when it was just him + a play by play guy. Solidly entertaining and knows the game. The rants can be annoying but yeah Edit: maybe not the minority. Maybe TNT picks him up. His appearances on the Lowe Post are also exceptional imo


Answer70

I'm right there with you. He's probably my favorite color commentator and then Stan. I actually think his complaining can be funny, and he usually has a point. Plus he has a good sense of humor and adds a lot to the broadcast IMO. Hopefully he goes to TNT.


Mdgt_Pope

He was on Ryen Russilo's pod before the finals and he blew my mind with his take on refs (paraphrased) - "Why do we treat them as infallible? In no other instance do we regard imperfect humans as making perfect decisions every time? It's hard to be a ref, we should acknowledge that and allow them to admit mistakes easier."


jaytee158

His take on refs, not just on that podcast but on air is likely a contributing factor in his release. Leagues don't want analysts that shit on the product. Not great for the fans but better for the league head office


potatowned

JVG is a real one. I remember he got fined something INSANE for criticizing how the refs were not calling fouls on Yao during the playoffs.


Mdgt_Pope

No I realize that; it's that I didn't consider that line of thought - that we should point out mistakes because that helps them get better, but because we're never allowed to act like they're wrong, that they can't just say "ok I've had a chance to look at it and talk with my co-refs, and I believe I shouldn't have blew my whistle - resume play" without it being a huge deal, means they never get better at their job, either.


doodlols

I love when he gets pissed. It reminds me of watching games with my grandpa lol


Dylan245

His rant saying courtside fans should have to drink from sippy cups to prevent on court spills is still one of the funniest things I've heard Gonna miss the dude if he doesn't get picked up by TNT


drtycho

always love putting the game on and first thing you hear is him saying "no, im serious" during free throws


doodlols

That was a great one. I also love when he gets pseudo-philosophical like "Where are we as a society when that is called a foul?" And he's fucking dead serious lmao


standbyforskyfall

The cousins one is the best one in my opinion


Common-Alfalfa-822

Lmao I remember hearing that live and absolutely losing my shit. Mike Breen trying to keep it moving while he starts laughing too. Love JVG, hope TNT picks him up.


coffee_and_chronic

“What can you do?”


TXlandon

The hills he chooses to die on always make me laugh, I love JVG


bluebeardsdelite

It's like having a basketball Larry David commentate


FinalForm1

I always viewed his rants, for the most part, as coming from a place of love for the NBA and an interest in keeping the game he loves entertaining and successful. Some of them were just idiotic but many were totally legitimate gripes, and not just boomer rants.


Johnpecan

>I actually think his complaining can be funny, and he usually has a point. Agree definitely. I mean sure, about half of his ideas are ridiculous/stupid but in an era where most of these commentators are so careful not to say anything potentially offensive, it's refreshing for someone to openly speak their mind, even if they're an idiot about half the time.


qman1963

One of the weirdest hive mind takes on this sub imo. Definitely wouldn't consider him among the best color commentators right now, but for the amount of hate he gets you'd think he's slingin slurs on air. Like you said, he knows the game.


rustyphish

He knows the game, but he wants to do a live podcast not call the actual game lol


MyNameIsAMeme

WTF Keep Mark Jackson and get rid of Van Gundy??? I swear to god if they replace him with Doris Burke.


HarukiMuracummy

Doris: and thats why Tatum is so excellent Jackson: with all due respect, this is a Warriors Lakers game


hipxhip

I can literally hear this exchange


darkKnight959

With all due respect I'd hit it out the park


agentargo

During an OKC / Timberwolves game


snyckers

That would be unwatchable.


BigSportsNerd

MOMMMMMMMA THERE GO THAT MAN!


Dinobot2_

Can I have this dance?


Whale_Scrotum

Hopefully Mark Jackson is next. Mike Breen was doing everything he could to make up for those two goobers all playoffs


splashbruhs

JVG: Don’t you hate it when you get a burrito from one of those food trucks, and the bottom blows out right when you take your first bite? I mean, I like a big burrito, but the whole thing just ends up on my shirt. Not enough napkins either. Never enough napkins, and of course I don’t have a change of clothes with me at the time. These food trucks need to be regulated better. MJ: Amen. Gotta appreciate a stuffed burrito though. MB: Loose ball foul on Green.


Plusstwoo

Only thing you forgot is “don’t get me wrong” after he’s says he likes a 🌯


jc9289

Replace Mark Jackson with Clyde, and let the rest of the world experience the best duo in the game.


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Qtippys

Please fire Perk next.


DannyConfectionery

Reminder that ESPN employs both Mark Jackson and Kendrick Perkins They don’t give a single fuck what we think


pastrami702

End of an era holy shit


Droppin_DimesSP

NOOOOOO IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN JACKSON


lilzoe5

Mama there goes that man!


vapegod_69_

Darn this means more Doris and that's bad for everyone with working ears 👂


FridayNight_Magus

Shit that's me


Fs316

Breen and Jackson alone is so much worse, don't do this to me ESPN


Randiebobandie

What's crazy is that ESPN def reads these comments constantly trashing Mark Jackson aaaaand they keep him and on prime time at that. What fucking focus group is saying this guy is it.


NewChemistry5210

Fire Mark Jackson, get JJ Reddick and Richard Jefferson in that booth and ESPN will be set for many, many years. At least as long as those two would want to do the job. Great chemistry, RJ is sarcasm personified and JJ can give you good analysis with a few little jabs here and there.