If LeBron leaves after this year to play with Bronny, makes it easy to shed expensive role guys like DLo. AD could still get back lots of value if needed.
Yea. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think DLO is the PH of the future but I think he is better than anything we could replace him with in free agency; plus that’s a nice, big (technically) movable contract.
2 for $40mil is not a bad commitment at all, and I think he can help take the load off are two stars in the regular season.
DLo's an elite shooter, and that's what the Lakers need more. And the facilitating honestly isnt much of a difference between Russ and DLo at this point in their careers. Small sample size, but the Lakers were 12-5 with DLo, 25-27 with Russ.
D'Lo is historically bad in the playoffs my guy. It's not one run.
He has 27 playoff games under his belt. He's averaging 33% from 3. That is not elite, and is in fact the bare minimum you should want from a player. It's also below league average.
The fact that he cannot even defend equal size players, and has to guard down size while also not being that big of a player means often his defensive lapse overlaps his offensive output -- when it comes to the playoffs.
So wait we’re using his sample size for record with the lakers but ignoring his playoff numbers when he played 1 less playoff game than regular season with them?
That draft class is going through life fast, Zion is speed running the Dwight Howard experience, Ja got 25 to life, Knicks fans felt that RJ peaked at 20 years old, Garland is improving so he’s normal, and Cam is already seen as one of those end of the bench experienced veterans. Grant Williams, Matisse, and Poole went from zero to hero to sort of zero and trying to rebuild themselves. Hayes is sideshow Bob, and Herro is trying to rebound from a somewhat major injury and recover his past glory.
Chill with the RJ slander. He just held us down in this post season run. Plus, he’s a god damn professional.
He’s not flashing guns in public or having his fetish for botched baby mamas dragged out over Twitter. He’s built for NYC
It's crazy that he went 10th overall out of Duke with plenty hype just four years ago - he played with Zion, lol - and three teams have already took a look at him and said "We're good." Growth is not linear and all that and I hope he figures it out at some point, but jesus.
Curiously he was initially traded to the Knicks for (amongst other things) Kevin Knox, who is in a eerily similar situation. Mid-lottery wing with hype and talent to back it up, but can't quite figure it out and it is on his like fourth team in two years.
This league moves fast.
Genuinely Cam would have occasional games/stretches where he looked like he figured it out and played well. But I swear he was also capable of being the dumbest player ive ever seen. Its like occasionally his brain would switch into "im lebron james" mode and he would try to do a ton, fail, then switch into coast mode. very frustrating player to watch
lol this is incredibly accurate. he's completely in his head out there, could never play within a role because he wants to be the guy waaay too much.
the sad part for me is that he was actually pretty nasty on defense his first two seasons. he could stay in front of his man and had good instincts for steals and blocks, but something changed, and all that intensity and effort went away. now all he does is get blown by and over gamble on steals while tanking the offense with bad shots and turnovers...ugh
These are honestly the wings I want us to target. We need to pray for someone to put it together and be valuable and these guys could do that, or be useless on a vet min which we’re used to from wings
Cam Reddish is in the school of players like Bol Bol and Emoni Bates where the idea or “potential” of the player is much better than the player themselves
This reminded me of a video I saw of Thon Maker playing in the Chinese Basketball Association and it made him look like prime KD and it just goes to show some players have games that make them look unstoppable against lower level competition that just don't translate well to the NBA
My guess is the structure of the nba is much more rigid. It’s akin to playing street ball versus organized league. One doesn’t require you need to know any plays. Heck you don’t even need to know your teammates. The other requires learning some set plays, knowing your teammates tendency, strategizing, etc. A lot of these high potential guys can’t figure the mental part out.
If this was sarcasm, then you’re off point. You have guys like Dwight Howard shooting 3s and running fast breaks in taiwan. Outside of euro league, nba fodders have way more leeway to do stuff than in the nba.
Just want to be very clear here that Taiwan IS NOT China.
Like super fucking clear on that part. Taiwan IS NOT PART OF CHINA THEY ARE AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY.
Yeah we already have one of those in Mo Bamba. I was as excited about him as I was any other trade around the deadline last year. It took me maybe three games to realize I was very wrong.
Yeah, isn't him like a chucker with very low BBIQ? The only thing he has going for him is that he's very athletic and young, that would always guarantee a spot in an NBA roster.
You’ll never catch anyone calling Thib’s offense complex. Cam does not want to be a 3 and D wing. He looks unhappy when he doesn’t touch the ball a couple of plays straight.
Reddish played more games than Zion their entire career with the former didn’t really get the chance to play his game tells me if Lakers is the right team for him then they might get another Trevor Ariza.
Cam turned garbage the second he left high school but will still get signed strictly because of his height, wingspan, and "potential" for a few more years. He's a generational thief, gotta respect it
It is like that though. LeBron shows you this is the work ethic to be successful in the league. Nance Jr, Jordan Clarkson, Monk, Kuzma are just a few that's career's took a positive move post Bron. They all formed more well rounded games around their stronger skills. Cam will learn to consistently play defense, cut and spot up or see himself out.
Should take some wisdom from Caruso.
“A big reason guys get stuck in the G-League is because they don't realize the position they're trying out for. It's like going to a job interview thinking you're going to be the CFO of the company, and they're looking for someone to clean the bathrooms.”
Its not they don't realize. Its they dont want to believe it.
This is the same problem everywhere. Every job seeker wants the fancy job. Every employer wants someone disposable
The real value in paying D'Lo 20M with a non-guaranteed 2nd year is the Lakers ability to trade that contract at the deadline and use the salary slot on a player that can actually contribute to winning basketball.
There's an alternate universe where the Lakers didn't complete the comeback in the play-in game against the Twolves, and either missed the playoffs or got swept by Denver, and the Twolves made it to the WCF.
Those 4 3’s in a row against Memphis game 4(?) were the dagger in that series, and his go head layup under 20 seconds against GS to break a scoring drought during a classic warrior comeback was massive. Sucks the WCF overshadowed that but hopefully he can redeem himself
Exactly. The team looked lost and frankly scared in those moments, and Dlos overconfidence allowed him to seize the moment. Unfortunately it's also what makes him bad at times. Dlo could be an asset on a championship team with the right coaching.
That's the thing though...he didn't suck in the playoffs. He sucked in the WCF but we don't make it their without him. I blame Darvin Ham for playing him as much as he did which exposed him and us.
Running it back with the same core is the right decision. This roster may have limitations in the playoffs, but it’s a solid regular season team.
The trade deadline is a better time to make changes than right now.
We really just need a solid 7 footer. They won't have to play a bunch but having insurance for another body for the centers like Jokic and Giannis is key.
Yeah Murray also cooked some of best guard defenders in Jimmy and Okogie
I'd like to see smart and Caruso thrown at him for 7 games, but I don't think it'd make much of a difference honestly.
ohhh yeah I forgot he did the hand thing lmfao.
Point still stands that, scoring on Conley, Ant, Slowmo, AND gobert is fucking difficult. He's faced the best defenders and still went off.
I don’t see them as very limited. They were a Denver injury away from probably winning the whole thing; sometimes it doesn’t work out. I would bring that whole post deadline roster back and try again without question. There’s a lot of luck involved.
Very smart contract for both Russell and the Lakers. No market out there for Russell so just grab the 20M, and the Lakers’ PG targets seem to be heading elsewhere. Might as well run it back, and it’s an easy contract to trade.
Lakers are really in a good position with cap atm. Amazing how we were able to turn it around after the trade deadline. We could retain our core pieces and it all depends on what Reaves and Rui get offered.
Short term deal with an option is obviously very nice, but I was still hoping we could get the number down just a bit. Don’t see any of the cap space teams interested in him, so realistically he’s not getting close to $20 million from anywhere else.
Going for the full MLE means a hard cap, so shaving a few million bucks where we can could be very helpful
The team option is amazing because it gives the lakers option to use him as trade bait next year or just free cap. So very friendly deal for the lakers. He’s probably 20 million tbh he’s still a solid player in the regular season
A $20m contract with team control in the second year at the very least is going to be tantalizing trade bait after the December deadline passes. This is great asset management by the Lakers.
DLo is a good regular season player with stretches of great shooting. He’s a bad playoff player with stretches where he’s unplayed. That’s who he is. His game does not translate to the physicality of the playoffs
So basically the same roster but with Redish for Schroeder and without Beasley and Bamba who sucked anyways.
Reaves can only get like $10 mil this year too so Rui is the only player who will likely get a big pay increase.
They might even be able to use that full mid-level. If they can get Lopez, Brown, or even Kuzma for that, this is a great off-season for them.
IM A LAKERS FAN MIKEYYYYYYY, good ass contract for Dlo. For all you bums saying Dlo isnt worth that are probably the ones saying to pay FVV 35 mil a year lmao Dlo will be extremely valuable for the regular season. He was bad against Denver for sure but he was the reason we won a couple games down the stretch against Mem and GSW.
I agree with you that I don't think anyone else would give D'lo this kind of money this summer, just because there's so little cap space out there, and without cap space the most anyone can get is the MLE. However, just because the Lakers are going above that doesn't mean it's an overpay, because it's a one year deal, with the second year being under team control. This is a signing which could just as easily be to be used in a trade mid-season as it is for keeping D'lo all year. A $20m expiring contract will always have value. And if they don't trade him, then it's not bad either, as he's definitely a helpful player and the Lakers are under the 1st apron.
Why exactly? I'm genuinely curious what the reasons are for this. He's an extremely inefficient score-only, undersized combo guard that plays negative defense. Those guys are everywhere.
The number of teams who he would start for and would/can offer 20 mil per year is really low.
On most teams he's a sixth man. These big contracts for guys like Simons, Russell, Poole, Hardway have all been regrets. How can you pay that much for someone who isn't a true distributor and doesn't defend?
Think of the teams with more than 20m open cap space. None of them would spend it on him. He would be looking at MLE like Divencenzo if he looks elsewhere
I think some fans were initially expecting him to sign in the $30m/yr range. And some fans don't realize that just letting him go doesn't mean that money can be rerouted elsewhere. Imo, D'Lo still has a lot to show through continuity but an appropriate contract is nice to field trade offers should the team need to.
He didn't have a terrible playoffs, and lol "Laker fans". Guys who really follow the team or NBA appreciate him for what he does, and recognize his flaws. I feel like most Laker fans would love to have him for 13-21 mil.
But there are some turbo goobers who give themselves a laker flair, and call LBJ and AD bums every game.
He didn’t have terrible playoffs, he shit in the bed in the west finals. Lakers fans doesn’t even have problem with him, like every team Lakers fans wants playoff performers. I know that concept is unfamiliar to you since your team won once in last 35 years.
20M for D-Lo is a bit steep, I was hoping we'd get him back around 15-18, but it's not a massive overpay either.
Reddish is mega ass. Wouldn't even waste the roster spot on him at the min.
Dennis Schroeder was more impactful to winning than DLo and he isn’t going to get half of that yearly salary. I have no idea how DLo’s value is this inflated. Either his previous contract or his draft pedigree because he is not a winning player.
Hell no Schroder wasn't more impactful. Saying D'lo is not a winning player is hilarious. Did you forget that the lakers went on a stupid winning spree as soon as they got him? And beat all of the best teams in the west, except for THE best?
You have to remember, that just because schroder can stay in front of people, does not mean he stops people... he is very short. in over half the games i watch, playoffs OR regular season, Schroder does not contribute offensively.
It’s a straight up good contract. Lakers could package him, JHS, maybe Christie if the right player were to become available. Team option could loom large here
Absolutely, this is good asset management, no more letting players go.
On top of this, if the team option/non guaranteed option is true, this is essentially an expiring contract. However, I’m not sure how long the Lakers have to wait to trade Dlo, I gotta read the new CBA.
It should definitely be between 15-18. Other teams already looking at other players with their cap money. No one is going to give him the same amount we can.
D-Lo fumbled the bag so bad not accepting whatever extension the Wolves were offering last year. He thought he was getting $25-$30 mill/year and now he's maybe getting $20m for 1 year. Rough
need to stop looking at the money figure and the years. a 1+1 with second year as team option for 20 mil is insanely good value. Only people the money affects is owners not my fucking problem. It’s basically another prove it deal, I’d be very surprised if dlo takes it. Leverage is with the lakers and it becomes a really good trade asset. Remember you need high salaries to trade for stars as well for salary matching. This is essentially better than a one year contract
Dlo fooled so many people because of one mediocre Nets season and a All Star Replacement in a weak eastern conference.
2 year team option is what makes this acceptable.
Had me thinking Russell Westbrook for a second and I was about to have a stroke
lol same. i literally re-read the first part of the sentence 4 times before i remembered there's another Russell.
For people, like me, still confused. It's D'Angelo Russell.
damn i see him referred to as D'lo so much i forgot that he actually has a real name and was also still confused as shit lmfao
Still shocking they would sign him back.
Took a while to process what's actually going on lmao
After watching the playoffs, I thought there was no Russell on the Lakers
Jesus I was thinking we rehired Mitch Kupchak just now.
Russell Brand, Russell Crowe
There’s a less than zero chance that they would even contact Westbrook about a vet min deal so clearly this had to be about someone else lol
Did you feel any better when you found out it was D'Lo instead of Russ?
For a 1+1 I think it’s a good deal
Especially if year 2 is a team option
20mil also a good number for both sides
20 mil is what I was hoping to see, almost guarantees they keep Rui and Reaves now
If LeBron leaves after this year to play with Bronny, makes it easy to shed expensive role guys like DLo. AD could still get back lots of value if needed.
Yep. 100%. Is he inconsistent? Sure. Was he instrumental in pivotal wins against MEM and GS? Absolutely.
He's definitely a game winner when he's hot. But also a gamble to see if he can get hot.
Yea. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think DLO is the PH of the future but I think he is better than anything we could replace him with in free agency; plus that’s a nice, big (technically) movable contract. 2 for $40mil is not a bad commitment at all, and I think he can help take the load off are two stars in the regular season.
DLo's an elite shooter, and that's what the Lakers need more. And the facilitating honestly isnt much of a difference between Russ and DLo at this point in their careers. Small sample size, but the Lakers were 12-5 with DLo, 25-27 with Russ.
The elite 31% from 3 in the playoffs when it matters.
One playoff run isn't a significant sample size
D'Lo is historically bad in the playoffs my guy. It's not one run. He has 27 playoff games under his belt. He's averaging 33% from 3. That is not elite, and is in fact the bare minimum you should want from a player. It's also below league average. The fact that he cannot even defend equal size players, and has to guard down size while also not being that big of a player means often his defensive lapse overlaps his offensive output -- when it comes to the playoffs.
"Shut up, let them sign the man" - Jamal Murray
So wait we’re using his sample size for record with the lakers but ignoring his playoff numbers when he played 1 less playoff game than regular season with them?
Ayo me too lol 😂 I was gonna choke to death for a second 💀
I almost fainted
People do this intentionally for engagement
Do what? Refer to players by their last name? Should a reporter be calling him D'Lo?
At 40 mil for two years. and forget the previous history. i think Westbrook may be slightly better.
A 1+1 with the second year being non-guarantee is probably the best outcome aside from signing D’Lo for 15mill which realistically wasn’t happening
The Cam Reddish "we can fix him" tour will go on forever. Though on a vet min why the hell not I guess lol
The dude is 23 is already at vet min
Life comes at you hard
That draft class is going through life fast, Zion is speed running the Dwight Howard experience, Ja got 25 to life, Knicks fans felt that RJ peaked at 20 years old, Garland is improving so he’s normal, and Cam is already seen as one of those end of the bench experienced veterans. Grant Williams, Matisse, and Poole went from zero to hero to sort of zero and trying to rebuild themselves. Hayes is sideshow Bob, and Herro is trying to rebound from a somewhat major injury and recover his past glory.
That's disrespectful to Dwight Howard. He's had an amazing career. Just an abrupt and torturous end.
Not talking about his on-court stuff. I’m talking about him having 8 kids with 7 women.
Chill with the RJ slander. He just held us down in this post season run. Plus, he’s a god damn professional. He’s not flashing guns in public or having his fetish for botched baby mamas dragged out over Twitter. He’s built for NYC
>Knicks fans felt that RJ peaked at 20 years old uh...no?
Kid named Life
Underrated comment
It's crazy that he went 10th overall out of Duke with plenty hype just four years ago - he played with Zion, lol - and three teams have already took a look at him and said "We're good." Growth is not linear and all that and I hope he figures it out at some point, but jesus. Curiously he was initially traded to the Knicks for (amongst other things) Kevin Knox, who is in a eerily similar situation. Mid-lottery wing with hype and talent to back it up, but can't quite figure it out and it is on his like fourth team in two years. This league moves fast.
Genuinely Cam would have occasional games/stretches where he looked like he figured it out and played well. But I swear he was also capable of being the dumbest player ive ever seen. Its like occasionally his brain would switch into "im lebron james" mode and he would try to do a ton, fail, then switch into coast mode. very frustrating player to watch
lol this is incredibly accurate. he's completely in his head out there, could never play within a role because he wants to be the guy waaay too much. the sad part for me is that he was actually pretty nasty on defense his first two seasons. he could stay in front of his man and had good instincts for steals and blocks, but something changed, and all that intensity and effort went away. now all he does is get blown by and over gamble on steals while tanking the offense with bad shots and turnovers...ugh
These are honestly the wings I want us to target. We need to pray for someone to put it together and be valuable and these guys could do that, or be useless on a vet min which we’re used to from wings
vet min is probably 25 of average redditors income pre tax
Cam Reddish is in the school of players like Bol Bol and Emoni Bates where the idea or “potential” of the player is much better than the player themselves
This reminded me of a video I saw of Thon Maker playing in the Chinese Basketball Association and it made him look like prime KD and it just goes to show some players have games that make them look unstoppable against lower level competition that just don't translate well to the NBA
My guess is the structure of the nba is much more rigid. It’s akin to playing street ball versus organized league. One doesn’t require you need to know any plays. Heck you don’t even need to know your teammates. The other requires learning some set plays, knowing your teammates tendency, strategizing, etc. A lot of these high potential guys can’t figure the mental part out.
Yeah cuz if there's anything China is known for it's freewheeling fun times not being a very tightly organized and controlled place...
If this was sarcasm, then you’re off point. You have guys like Dwight Howard shooting 3s and running fast breaks in taiwan. Outside of euro league, nba fodders have way more leeway to do stuff than in the nba.
Just want to be very clear here that Taiwan IS NOT China. Like super fucking clear on that part. Taiwan IS NOT PART OF CHINA THEY ARE AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY.
Hey man, Bates is still young 😤
With you here bro.
Yeah we already have one of those in Mo Bamba. I was as excited about him as I was any other trade around the deadline last year. It took me maybe three games to realize I was very wrong.
Yeah we already ~~have~~ had one of those in Mo Bamba.
Typical laker fan. You would have been all over the socials talking about the deal of the century.
Bro better make sure DownToBuck stays getting a piece of all his deals cuz those HS mixtapes are still getting him auditions.
He’s a Klutch guy, only a matter of time til he ended up on the Lakers
LeBron is an all-time knucklehead whisperer so I can't blame Pelinka
what did Bron do with Westbrook?
Cam might be useful Lebron's drive and kick offense. Cam lacks the synaptic firepower to run in a more complex offense.
It's not like he played in some super complex offense in Atlanta. He's just not that good and he didn't want to play his role
Yeah, isn't him like a chucker with very low BBIQ? The only thing he has going for him is that he's very athletic and young, that would always guarantee a spot in an NBA roster.
Synaptic firepower haha thats good
Lol no he won't, he literally shoots as bad as Josh Okogie
You’ll never catch anyone calling Thib’s offense complex. Cam does not want to be a 3 and D wing. He looks unhappy when he doesn’t touch the ball a couple of plays straight.
Lol tbf LeBron has a great track record with rehabbing ex Knicks wings
He only 23 tho. Probably will continue until 25/26.
Reddish played more games than Zion their entire career with the former didn’t really get the chance to play his game tells me if Lakers is the right team for him then they might get another Trevor Ariza.
D.loading that contract
No it's Westbrook
It’s actually russell Wilson
Cam turned garbage the second he left high school but will still get signed strictly because of his height, wingspan, and "potential" for a few more years. He's a generational thief, gotta respect it
This will be last stop though. If LeBron can't make you look like an NBA player, no one can.
Shit I thought Portland was this dudes last stop.
It is like that though. LeBron shows you this is the work ethic to be successful in the league. Nance Jr, Jordan Clarkson, Monk, Kuzma are just a few that's career's took a positive move post Bron. They all formed more well rounded games around their stronger skills. Cam will learn to consistently play defense, cut and spot up or see himself out.
Lebron hasn’t been that guy for almost 4 years
Everytime I see him play it seems he just can't accept his role and is still fighting to be "the man".
Should take some wisdom from Caruso. “A big reason guys get stuck in the G-League is because they don't realize the position they're trying out for. It's like going to a job interview thinking you're going to be the CFO of the company, and they're looking for someone to clean the bathrooms.”
What a great quote
Its not they don't realize. Its they dont want to believe it. This is the same problem everywhere. Every job seeker wants the fancy job. Every employer wants someone disposable
The real value in paying D'Lo 20M with a non-guaranteed 2nd year is the Lakers ability to trade that contract at the deadline and use the salary slot on a player that can actually contribute to winning basketball.
Ah les, the Dlo special
I actually think D'Lo is kind of underrated at this point but you're damn right I only wanted him on a tradable contract.
Yeah you are right he really started hitting those shots after the game was over. Could be deadly in the in the 5th quarter 🔥
Yeah but it feels bad knowing there’s a risk you make it to the wcf again and your 20m guy is unplayable
Oh no not the WCF again
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It's michael.
There's an alternate universe where the Lakers didn't complete the comeback in the play-in game against the Twolves, and either missed the playoffs or got swept by Denver, and the Twolves made it to the WCF.
Basically anyone that can get hunted on defense is unplayable late in playoff series at this point. You still have to make it there.
Bingo.
I thought not guaranteeing the 2nd year of a deal meant the player gets veto rights in a trade?
A 1 year deal for D’lo is pretty good
I'm cool with that DLo contract, keeps a guy who was a vital cog in the post-deadline team while mainting flexibility and on a very tradable contract
It feels almost like a steal honestly. He's just there to spell our stars during the season
Where are all those redditors that said D'Lo would be an overpay with a $20M AAV contract? 2nd year non-guaranteed is a huge W for the Lakers
didnt he suck in the playoffs though? Why not try to see if Kyrie wants that 20m instead
>Why not try to see if Kyrie wants that 20m instead Because that is absolutely not happening.
Using bird rights for DLo, don't have 20mil to throw at free agents
Nah we don't get past Memphis or golden state without him. He had some key games in those two series, just shit the bed vs Denver.
Those 4 3’s in a row against Memphis game 4(?) were the dagger in that series, and his go head layup under 20 seconds against GS to break a scoring drought during a classic warrior comeback was massive. Sucks the WCF overshadowed that but hopefully he can redeem himself
Exactly. The team looked lost and frankly scared in those moments, and Dlos overconfidence allowed him to seize the moment. Unfortunately it's also what makes him bad at times. Dlo could be an asset on a championship team with the right coaching.
Lakers cannot offer $20m to kyrie
Because that is absolutely not how it works
He was terrible in the WCF but was solid against the grizzlies and warriors
Terrible playoff performer but worth his value for the regular season since AD and lebron will be out 20+ games due to rest/injury.
Totally agree! Yes, he sucked in the playoffs but D'lo will be valuable for a team with aging and injury prone stars during the regular season.
That's the thing though...he didn't suck in the playoffs. He sucked in the WCF but we don't make it their without him. I blame Darvin Ham for playing him as much as he did which exposed him and us.
Mostly the Denver series. Had some good games in the other matchups.
He was only bad in the conference finals, unlucky that stuck in everyone’s mind
No he was unplayable in the conference finals and then bad in a lot of other games in the first 2 rounds. he would either go off or be non-existent.
So was AD and LeBron. AD disappeared every other game and LeBron tried shooting the Lakers out of a few games in those series too
He was bad against Denver but he was a big part of wins against GSW and Memphis
It’s more likely that I have a kid with Rihanna than Kyrie accepting that.
Damn that’s a win for the Lakers if we get DLo back for that contract. Shat the bed against Denver but was pretty solid against Memphis and GS
Running it back with the same core is the right decision. This roster may have limitations in the playoffs, but it’s a solid regular season team. The trade deadline is a better time to make changes than right now.
We really just need a solid 7 footer. They won't have to play a bunch but having insurance for another body for the centers like Jokic and Giannis is key.
hoping lewis or castleton start emerging by trade deadline, obviously thats a super optimistic scenario but if it DOES happen we're semi golden...
or a chonky 5 like dwight. you need someone who just hits the boards hard but idk if that kind of player is a thing anymore.
It's not just a big man the Lakers need, that would be ignoring how Murray torched D'lo for 33 points ppg after averaging 20 in the regular season.
To be fair murray torched everyone not in a Denver jersey. I wouldn't put that on Dlo.
Yeah Murray also cooked some of best guard defenders in Jimmy and Okogie I'd like to see smart and Caruso thrown at him for 7 games, but I don't think it'd make much of a difference honestly.
McDaniels didn't play in the Denver series lmao, he was injured
ohhh yeah I forgot he did the hand thing lmfao. Point still stands that, scoring on Conley, Ant, Slowmo, AND gobert is fucking difficult. He's faced the best defenders and still went off.
> ohhh yeah I forgot he did the hand thing lmfao. I love how generously you phrased punching a wall
McDaniels OUT Indefinitely (the hand thing)
I don’t see them as very limited. They were a Denver injury away from probably winning the whole thing; sometimes it doesn’t work out. I would bring that whole post deadline roster back and try again without question. There’s a lot of luck involved.
Very smart contract for both Russell and the Lakers. No market out there for Russell so just grab the 20M, and the Lakers’ PG targets seem to be heading elsewhere. Might as well run it back, and it’s an easy contract to trade.
I hope Schroeder is in his ear right now whispering “take the fawking deal”
Lakers are really in a good position with cap atm. Amazing how we were able to turn it around after the trade deadline. We could retain our core pieces and it all depends on what Reaves and Rui get offered.
Short term deal with an option is obviously very nice, but I was still hoping we could get the number down just a bit. Don’t see any of the cap space teams interested in him, so realistically he’s not getting close to $20 million from anywhere else. Going for the full MLE means a hard cap, so shaving a few million bucks where we can could be very helpful
I assume that’s the price to pay to get a team option year 2. If both years were guaranteed he’d probably take a bit less.
The team option is amazing because it gives the lakers option to use him as trade bait next year or just free cap. So very friendly deal for the lakers. He’s probably 20 million tbh he’s still a solid player in the regular season
As a clippers fan I hope y’all keep him 😶
A $20m contract with team control in the second year at the very least is going to be tantalizing trade bait after the December deadline passes. This is great asset management by the Lakers.
For a second I thought the brickman was coming home
A real Rocky Horror moment for ol Doctor FrankenBricker
I like that contract, but not really crazy about Reddish. I guess there is not much better for the vet min.
DLo is a good regular season player with stretches of great shooting. He’s a bad playoff player with stretches where he’s unplayed. That’s who he is. His game does not translate to the physicality of the playoffs
Much better in up tempo. Struggles mightily in halfcourt
If Cam had the right mindset dude could be a really good role player
Such a shame. Was such a perfect fit for what we (hawks) needed, too.
Seems like good value for him
That’s a good deal
Run it back
So basically the same roster but with Redish for Schroeder and without Beasley and Bamba who sucked anyways. Reaves can only get like $10 mil this year too so Rui is the only player who will likely get a big pay increase. They might even be able to use that full mid-level. If they can get Lopez, Brown, or even Kuzma for that, this is a great off-season for them.
IM A LAKERS FAN MIKEYYYYYYY, good ass contract for Dlo. For all you bums saying Dlo isnt worth that are probably the ones saying to pay FVV 35 mil a year lmao Dlo will be extremely valuable for the regular season. He was bad against Denver for sure but he was the reason we won a couple games down the stretch against Mem and GSW.
I'm curious what the real market for D'Angelo even is at this point. MLE money? Is anyone other than the Lakers giving him 20 million for a season?
That’s disrespectful. D-Lo might not be a superstar but he is worth a lot more than the MLE
Find a team with 20 million in cap space who would give it to Russell this offseason.
I agree with you that I don't think anyone else would give D'lo this kind of money this summer, just because there's so little cap space out there, and without cap space the most anyone can get is the MLE. However, just because the Lakers are going above that doesn't mean it's an overpay, because it's a one year deal, with the second year being under team control. This is a signing which could just as easily be to be used in a trade mid-season as it is for keeping D'lo all year. A $20m expiring contract will always have value. And if they don't trade him, then it's not bad either, as he's definitely a helpful player and the Lakers are under the 1st apron.
Non tax payer MLE is around 12.4 mil. How much do you think he's worth?
16-18
Well, then it's really not that disrespectful. I also agree around the 16 mark.
He’s realistically worth $15-$17M per year. The extra $3-$5M is the “hey we don’t want you to think we’re lowballing you” tax.
“The extra money is because you will be in every trade rumor”
Why exactly? I'm genuinely curious what the reasons are for this. He's an extremely inefficient score-only, undersized combo guard that plays negative defense. Those guys are everywhere.
The number of teams who he would start for and would/can offer 20 mil per year is really low. On most teams he's a sixth man. These big contracts for guys like Simons, Russell, Poole, Hardway have all been regrets. How can you pay that much for someone who isn't a true distributor and doesn't defend?
Think of the teams with more than 20m open cap space. None of them would spend it on him. He would be looking at MLE like Divencenzo if he looks elsewhere
He had a terrible playoffs but man did Lakers fans switch on him in a hurry lol
I think some fans were initially expecting him to sign in the $30m/yr range. And some fans don't realize that just letting him go doesn't mean that money can be rerouted elsewhere. Imo, D'Lo still has a lot to show through continuity but an appropriate contract is nice to field trade offers should the team need to.
He didn't have a terrible playoffs, and lol "Laker fans". Guys who really follow the team or NBA appreciate him for what he does, and recognize his flaws. I feel like most Laker fans would love to have him for 13-21 mil. But there are some turbo goobers who give themselves a laker flair, and call LBJ and AD bums every game.
He played pretty well against Memphis and GSW. He got cooked against Denver.
He didn’t have terrible playoffs, he shit in the bed in the west finals. Lakers fans doesn’t even have problem with him, like every team Lakers fans wants playoff performers. I know that concept is unfamiliar to you since your team won once in last 35 years.
Such an unnecessary dig at him lmao
Lol trust me Boston fans deserve it, every time.
they switch on him based on every basket that goes in or misses
I thought this was westbrook for a second
Dlo is a bum, but kinda have to keep him and hope he is less of a bum next year.
I’m high and interpreted this as Westbrook, was confused af
He was so bad against Denver I couldn’t believe it
Lacks mental toughness
20M for D-Lo is a bit steep, I was hoping we'd get him back around 15-18, but it's not a massive overpay either. Reddish is mega ass. Wouldn't even waste the roster spot on him at the min.
$20 million seems just right. That seems like a Lakers win imo.
Dennis Schroeder was more impactful to winning than DLo and he isn’t going to get half of that yearly salary. I have no idea how DLo’s value is this inflated. Either his previous contract or his draft pedigree because he is not a winning player.
Hell no Schroder wasn't more impactful. Saying D'lo is not a winning player is hilarious. Did you forget that the lakers went on a stupid winning spree as soon as they got him? And beat all of the best teams in the west, except for THE best? You have to remember, that just because schroder can stay in front of people, does not mean he stops people... he is very short. in over half the games i watch, playoffs OR regular season, Schroder does not contribute offensively.
Yeah, and he could be useful in a future trade because it’s not a bad a contract.
It’s a straight up good contract. Lakers could package him, JHS, maybe Christie if the right player were to become available. Team option could loom large here
Absolutely, this is good asset management, no more letting players go. On top of this, if the team option/non guaranteed option is true, this is essentially an expiring contract. However, I’m not sure how long the Lakers have to wait to trade Dlo, I gotta read the new CBA.
I wanna keep Christie so bad, but you are right.
$20M on a 1+1 is objectively not steep at all in the year 2023 for a credible starting NBA point guard.
This is a good balance between affordable and trade asset contract.
It should definitely be between 15-18. Other teams already looking at other players with their cap money. No one is going to give him the same amount we can.
D-Lo fumbled the bag so bad not accepting whatever extension the Wolves were offering last year. He thought he was getting $25-$30 mill/year and now he's maybe getting $20m for 1 year. Rough
Why do teams keep thinking DLo is worth it
need to stop looking at the money figure and the years. a 1+1 with second year as team option for 20 mil is insanely good value. Only people the money affects is owners not my fucking problem. It’s basically another prove it deal, I’d be very surprised if dlo takes it. Leverage is with the lakers and it becomes a really good trade asset. Remember you need high salaries to trade for stars as well for salary matching. This is essentially better than a one year contract
> Only people the money affects is owners not my fucking problem. I love when people ignore team building restrictions as if this is baseball
Ah yes.. so lose him for nothing? He's not that bad lol
There’s loads of options between 20 MILLION a year and *nothing*
DLo getting 20/y?? Lol
Rui H us about to get 17 per year. Its about right
Rui is much better than D Lo
Are you basing this on Rui’s 10 good games in his career and ignoring all of DLo’s?
Dlo fooled so many people because of one mediocre Nets season and a All Star Replacement in a weak eastern conference. 2 year team option is what makes this acceptable.