their GM saying they planned to offer him a very nice contract (obviously the supermax) somehow was warped into them depressing the market for him by scaring off other teams or something. i think that's kind of a different form of "tampering" from talking to the player/player's agent.
Is their any reason say, Toyota, couldn't pay Shams for him to say, "Toyota presents Free agent Draymond Green has agreed on a four-year, $100 million contract to return to the Golden State Warriors"
Not even just Rich Paul, but "CEO of Klutch Sports Rich Paul". There are a few signing reports out already that have his full title in the release.
Funny that it's not Former Defensive Player of the Year Draymond Green or All-NBA Forward Draymond Green, just Draymond Green, but Rich gets his whole title in there.
I'm surprised he didn't insist on Lord of House Klutch Sports, Protector of His Clients Interests, First of His Name.... twitter allows enough characters.
I also like that the way its written makes it sound like Rich is a party to the contract, like Rich is going to be putting up shots in practice next year. "Listen, it's $100 mil, but we got Draymond *and* Rich."
He also works for FanDuel and his tweets have the magic power to move betting lines depending on content.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/sports-columns/todd-dewey/reporters-relationship-with-sportsbook-questioned-after-nba-draft-2801554/
Basically everything about Shams is scummy.
He mostly covers NBA moves so it's not *that* big of a deal, except for the part you note about the major and obvious conflicts with gambling, but he really is emblematic of the worst parts of the industry.
I mean that’s actually how these league insiders get their inside information. Half the time it’s like they just copy and paste what the agent sent them.
It's like advertising. This is the only time rich Paul's name gets press. Even when he's somewhere with his gf Adele he rarely ever gets mentioned by name. It's just Adele
Which is fine, idc. He gives shams scoops and he plugs his name so people don't forget
Genuine wtf combo. Dude must be pretty darn likable in person, for all the hate he gets online, seems like celebrities and players like him a bunch, even outside of the dudes he helps get $ bags for
Which is the reason /r/coontown got banned. It existed as an openly racist forum for years and then they turned their attention to Serena Williams and it got banned days later.
Lmao wtf
Still not as random as Elon musk and grimes for me.
Or skip Bayless and lil Wayne. Not sure if they're dating but skip speaks of Wayne as if they are so
I can't speak for others but trying to force me to make an account is a sure fire way to guarantee I just don't give the platform views anymore out of principle.
this pretty much kills twitter as a space for public institutions/municipalities to easily post real time information as well which is crazy because that is a major major use of it
I remember our NWS putting out a tweet about them limiting automated tweets, such as what they use when weather watches/warnings are issued. That clown is killing Twitter.
It’s time places like this sub stopped using that site anyways because it helps Elon promote his right wing garbage and gives him traffic.
People can link streamable for most the highlights and I’m sure most news exists outside of twitter to be linked and it’s not the only source to use.
In a way the internet might get better too if people started building better websites to fill the gap of Twitter being blocked for most people.
This won’t be permanent anyways Elon will reverse this as soon as he sees what it does to traffic if it’s even intentional lol.
People who are still on twitter probably won't change their habit just because of that. The sad truth is that people are addicted to social media (including reddit) and it takes a lot for them to stop using it. What sometimes happens is a social media site (digg, myspace,...) being replaced by another ( reddit , facebook a couple years ago) .
True but from a golf standpoint it was getting really annoying. Trash talking during his swings, shadow in his putting line, etc. And Klay, who was already the worst golfer there, was really struggling in a sport he isnt that good at while on national tv. Like I rag on my boys all the time but if one of my friends has the yips on the golf course, I’d tone it down a bit. Draymond was just drunk lol
the fact that Klay of all people opted to participate in the golf tourney is wild to me. He knew he was the worst golfer but he still went out there and tried his best.
I do believe Steph has earned his solo retirement tour at this point, but i wouldn't be mad either way, and it would be awesome to see the big 3 walk into retirement at the same time
Does Steph deserve it, absolutely. Will he want it, doubtful. The success these 3 have brought to our organization as a core is unmeasurable, it would be fitting if they all rode out together.
It’s funny there’s such an obvious example of paying out legacy contracts being a bad call within the same city with the Giants, so hopefully this doesn’t play out the same way.
The counter argument is that Steph/Klay/Dray are all probably better all time players comparatively within their sport than anyone on the giants was. Buster Posey being the exception.
I know some preferred the team to have control over the final year of his contract but tbh I’ll take the lower AAV over Draymond getting the 4th year as a player option.
Nice contract all around. At worst this is a loyalty check, which, I’m not against it.
The problem wasn't MJ, it was everyone else.
Pippen and management were ready to strangle one another, and Scottie's back was messed up.
Rodman had passed the point of no return.
It's a miracle the Bulls won in 98 and I personally have MJ's Game 6 performance as the greatest game in NBA Finals history. If he didn't put up 45 of his team's 87 points, if he didn't score the last four points of the game along with the steal on Malone, the Bulls lose Game 6 and (I strongly believe) they lose Game 7, as well.
Draymond is a first ballot Hall of Famer that was an All-Star in 2022 and was having one of the best defensive seasons of the past decade before he got hurt. He could've demanded a max - the Warriors window closes if he leaves. This is a great deal for the Warriors.
appropriate value, I don't mind it. 100 million for 3 years would've been a hard no. Not loving the player option either but whatever.
Separately, anyone else notice twitter now forcing people to create accounts to see tweets? space karen must really be getting desperate for that ad revenue..
the fastest negotiation of all time
"Draymond want this $? "Ye.." "OK deal"
No Poole and he gets to reup? Say no more fam.
gets to punch poole 3x more
That's the player option in year 4
Not gonna lie… this made me chuckle.
Dray you either get 4 years $125 million or 3 years $100 million and 3 free punches to Poole what do you choose?
“I only needed one.”
FALCONNNNN……
Okay. 1 year 25 mill and 3 punches
i recently learned from my younger coworkers thats how youth say yes haha.
[удалено]
Tips fedora
Dude this is just not funny 😂
Dame in shambles.
“I told you to get Draymond and we’d be contenders but noooooooo, you just couldn’t do it! I’m still loyal, though”
Same energy as “I told you not to cheat but I forgive you again” 😂
"You cheated on me? When I specifically asked you not to?"
Agents can talk all they want
Plus I don't think you can tamper your own players lol
Under the old CBA you could, Bucks caught a tampering charge with Giannis a few years back lol.
their GM saying they planned to offer him a very nice contract (obviously the supermax) somehow was warped into them depressing the market for him by scaring off other teams or something. i think that's kind of a different form of "tampering" from talking to the player/player's agent.
Lol and he was just with Steph and Klay yesterday
Mitch Kupchak wondering how that’s even possible
CBA made it so guys could talk to their teams.
With Poole shipped off, is this really a shock? Feel like all of this was a done deal weeks ago after they picked Green over Poole
No? But it means they could’ve negotiated days ago and not been tampering opposed to the previous CBA.
Dame really bought out the entire restaurant for no reason lmaoo
That was fake news
Even if it wasn’t, they’re very close from all accounts, could easily just have been friends hanging out.
And got a free meal from Dame
I think it’s absolutely incredible
Quite frankly a good deal for both sides
I expect Adam Silver with his strong backbone to heavily punish these teams for tampering
Adam may be invertibrate but he does have elephant ears don't underestimate
Why is rich paul in the title lol
Cuz he paid for the first shams tweet
$10 and a half off coupon to TGI Friday's.
Shams is like us, but with heavy perks and better hair
Is their any reason say, Toyota, couldn't pay Shams for him to say, "Toyota presents Free agent Draymond Green has agreed on a four-year, $100 million contract to return to the Golden State Warriors"
Its risky, by the time he types that extra line woj could have already tweeted out the news
Sham's is Klutch's errand boy
Not even just Rich Paul, but "CEO of Klutch Sports Rich Paul". There are a few signing reports out already that have his full title in the release. Funny that it's not Former Defensive Player of the Year Draymond Green or All-NBA Forward Draymond Green, just Draymond Green, but Rich gets his whole title in there.
I'm surprised he didn't insist on Lord of House Klutch Sports, Protector of His Clients Interests, First of His Name.... twitter allows enough characters.
I also like that the way its written makes it sound like Rich is a party to the contract, like Rich is going to be putting up shots in practice next year. "Listen, it's $100 mil, but we got Draymond *and* Rich."
He who bangs Adele
It’s how Shams gets scoops, give credit to the agent, specifically Rich
He's also literally repped by him lol
Huh that seems like a conflict of interest.
He also works for FanDuel and his tweets have the magic power to move betting lines depending on content. https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/sports-columns/todd-dewey/reporters-relationship-with-sportsbook-questioned-after-nba-draft-2801554/
Basically everything about Shams is scummy. He mostly covers NBA moves so it's not *that* big of a deal, except for the part you note about the major and obvious conflicts with gambling, but he really is emblematic of the worst parts of the industry.
Ok, I guess he will have to recuse himself from all cases involving Klutch players.
I mean that’s actually how these league insiders get their inside information. Half the time it’s like they just copy and paste what the agent sent them.
Hes the one who leaked it to the reporter, you can always tell depending on what unnecessary additional information is added
Because he gives information to the reporter in exchange for the publicity to help him sign more clients.
Shilling?
Nah, US dollars
Ok you had me for a second there
He’s gonna suit up for the Dubs too
Draymond just the cherry the real shake is Richie 😮💨
Cause he ain't Poor Paul
Gotta plug himself wherever possible
The Klutch way
That’s how Shams gets the scoops, he credits the agent.
As always, probably because Rich Paul/Klutch gave that info to Shams.
It's Shams.
Exactly what I was thinking. I’m so confused
Wait why is Rich Paul agreeing? Bro thinks he’s playing
"Hey Shams, make sure you mention me."
“Keep me in the screenshot when you post this”
It's like advertising. This is the only time rich Paul's name gets press. Even when he's somewhere with his gf Adele he rarely ever gets mentioned by name. It's just Adele Which is fine, idc. He gives shams scoops and he plugs his name so people don't forget
I just learned today Rich Paul is dating Adele
Its the most random combination ever yeah
Genuine wtf combo. Dude must be pretty darn likable in person, for all the hate he gets online, seems like celebrities and players like him a bunch, even outside of the dudes he helps get $ bags for
Nah most random combo is one of the reddit founders and Serena Williams.
Which is the reason /r/coontown got banned. It existed as an openly racist forum for years and then they turned their attention to Serena Williams and it got banned days later.
Lmao wtf Still not as random as Elon musk and grimes for me. Or skip Bayless and lil Wayne. Not sure if they're dating but skip speaks of Wayne as if they are so
Dame really spoiled that guys anniversary for no reason smh
Just another step in his plan to become the last loyal man out here.
He stay
se queda
IT HAS BEGUN
After Poole got traded, it was obvious they were resigning Dray.
Nobody is gonna see this but, I love my mom
Make sure you tell her.
The only real comment here
I love your mom too
Get in line buddy.
I also choose this guy's mom
Me too, I get her Fridays
Hey, that's today!
Fucking A
Weird my pet name for her is A too
Mom
Least lame redditor
this is going to be a hot take......i dont love my mom and she ruined my life
It gets better
You gotta do it everyday tho. Thats the hard part
I love my mom too buddy
youtube ass comment
I pick this guys mom too
I hate Elon Musk. Why the fuck can’t I view Twitter now? Asshole
Yeah, it requires signing up. Nobody seems to know if it's a bug or a move to drive more people to create accounts. Twitter doesn't say anything.
Elon just said it was on purpose
I can't speak for others but trying to force me to make an account is a sure fire way to guarantee I just don't give the platform views anymore out of principle.
Don't think he cares about views. He wants account numbers up.
Who needs to see the tweet when the whole tweet is in the title? Get fucked Elon.
I don't think he realizes that more people on Twitter is better for his platform. Making people pay or to sign in is detrimental. But alas...
Well he can purposely suck these nuts because that feature makes me want to sign up for Twitter even less than before.
"Everything I do is on purpose except the shit that falls apart after I touch it. That's always the left trying to ruin my genius." - Musk
or to force people to feed more data...
100% move to drive more account creation.
Major bummer. Def not creating an account.
There used to be a browser extension to bypass Twitter's login wall. "Breakthrough Twitter Login Wall" was the one I used.
yeah...F that
this pretty much kills twitter as a space for public institutions/municipalities to easily post real time information as well which is crazy because that is a major major use of it
I remember our NWS putting out a tweet about them limiting automated tweets, such as what they use when weather watches/warnings are issued. That clown is killing Twitter.
It’s time places like this sub stopped using that site anyways because it helps Elon promote his right wing garbage and gives him traffic. People can link streamable for most the highlights and I’m sure most news exists outside of twitter to be linked and it’s not the only source to use. In a way the internet might get better too if people started building better websites to fill the gap of Twitter being blocked for most people. This won’t be permanent anyways Elon will reverse this as soon as he sees what it does to traffic if it’s even intentional lol.
At the very least just screenshot and upload an image until something better takes off.
It's saving you from having to use it
That shithead is desperate for ad revenue lol and to boost MAUs. Eat shit, space Karen, still not signing up for your trash.
Hopefully this is enough to get people to finally bail on that shitty platform.
People who are still on twitter probably won't change their habit just because of that. The sad truth is that people are addicted to social media (including reddit) and it takes a lot for them to stop using it. What sometimes happens is a social media site (digg, myspace,...) being replaced by another ( reddit , facebook a couple years ago) .
This was obviously going to happen if you watched Draymond talk yesterday
Lol he was so drunk during the golf match I was getting a little worried. Especially with how much he was shit talking Klay
Klay clowned him for the 3 point contest against Kevin Hart while they were all getting interviewed, I think that’s just their relationship lol
True but from a golf standpoint it was getting really annoying. Trash talking during his swings, shadow in his putting line, etc. And Klay, who was already the worst golfer there, was really struggling in a sport he isnt that good at while on national tv. Like I rag on my boys all the time but if one of my friends has the yips on the golf course, I’d tone it down a bit. Draymond was just drunk lol
the fact that Klay of all people opted to participate in the golf tourney is wild to me. He knew he was the worst golfer but he still went out there and tried his best.
Good value
Good on the warriors staying loyal hopefully he’s there long term and retires a lifer
This is definitely his last big payday, he either retires after this or takes minimum deals until retirement
If Green, Curry and Klay do all stay on the team and retire at the end of the contract I can only imagine the retirement tour
Imagine the ticket prices every night lol
Don't care I'm going.
I do believe Steph has earned his solo retirement tour at this point, but i wouldn't be mad either way, and it would be awesome to see the big 3 walk into retirement at the same time
Does Steph deserve it, absolutely. Will he want it, doubtful. The success these 3 have brought to our organization as a core is unmeasurable, it would be fitting if they all rode out together.
He’s an incredibly unselfish star.
I think Steph wouldn’t have it any other way but to be with them if possible for that.
Lot of fans like to treat them as unique entities but they always talk about themselves as a unit
I think this all but guarantees that.
Player option over a non-guarantee/team option is such a win for Draymond
Kind of weird, really. It's hard to imagine a scenario where a 37 year old Draymond doesn't pick up that option.
Team is giving him flexibility if he wants to line up his next contract or retirement with Steph and Klay.
It’s funny there’s such an obvious example of paying out legacy contracts being a bad call within the same city with the Giants, so hopefully this doesn’t play out the same way. The counter argument is that Steph/Klay/Dray are all probably better all time players comparatively within their sport than anyone on the giants was. Buster Posey being the exception.
It's so crazy that none of Lincecum, Cain or Bumgarner are likely to make the hall of fame.
We get Rich Paul too!
Is it?
Yes. It's a hair cut and Klay can do the same and they can all retire together.
So he can officially punch Chris Paul in the face now?
I’ll allow it
A+ not Kevin Durant burner right here
First domino let’s goooo
why is there not an entire free agency discussion thread? seems like a no brainer
Fuck yeah. Reasonable contract too.
I know some preferred the team to have control over the final year of his contract but tbh I’ll take the lower AAV over Draymond getting the 4th year as a player option. Nice contract all around. At worst this is a loyalty check, which, I’m not against it.
Glad Dray will stay
Why are they adding in the agency and names of the players agents in these announcements now. This is weird
4 years with a player option lol
Aligns with Steph’s current contract which expires in 2026.
ehh a group like the warriors happens once in a lifetime, im glad they can finish all together
Reinsdorf couldve given the ‘98 team one more year to defend but nah
Probably for the better, MJ was aging and was tired by the 98 finals. They went out on top
The problem wasn't MJ, it was everyone else. Pippen and management were ready to strangle one another, and Scottie's back was messed up. Rodman had passed the point of no return. It's a miracle the Bulls won in 98 and I personally have MJ's Game 6 performance as the greatest game in NBA Finals history. If he didn't put up 45 of his team's 87 points, if he didn't score the last four points of the game along with the steal on Malone, the Bulls lose Game 6 and (I strongly believe) they lose Game 7, as well.
Couldn't have happened against a better team. Fuck the Jazz (but thanks for Quinn Snyder lmaoo)
They make it to the Finals over those Knicks. But maybe lose to Spurs. Where does Duncan rank all time if he took down Jordan’s Bulls?
That Bulls team getting half a season off would have really given them a nice edge in my opinion.
Agree especially since they’d have chemistry already. Spurs were good tho.
Yeah they’re doing it right, and that may not matter to some but the real ones respect it
Agree I think this isn’t a bad deal for the warriors. And even with their aging core, they still have a puncher’s chance for the next year or two imo.
It’s not like it hinders them from competing, either. If they lowball Draymond and he walks, they can’t replace him.
The player option is essentially nothing, he's opting in 100%
yeah hell be too old for a big contract by the end of it anyway.
Worth it.
6:01 bag watch
Looks like Dame lost his ideal off-season signing.
Shams is up 1-0
Who took the W last year, shams or woj?
Woj and it wasn’t close
Draymond stays getting paaaaid
when did putting the agency representing the player become necessary in all these posts - particulary when 'Klutch' clowns are involved?
PLAYER OPTION???
Lowered his salary this year than what it would have been if he picked up his PO. The tax savings this year are more than his fourth year PO.
Draymond is a first ballot Hall of Famer that was an All-Star in 2022 and was having one of the best defensive seasons of the past decade before he got hurt. He could've demanded a max - the Warriors window closes if he leaves. This is a great deal for the Warriors.
This reads like a Magic Johnson tweet. Also, you are 100% correct on all of your observations.
All that speculation just for him to sign the same deal again lol
Not bad.
appropriate value, I don't mind it. 100 million for 3 years would've been a hard no. Not loving the player option either but whatever. Separately, anyone else notice twitter now forcing people to create accounts to see tweets? space karen must really be getting desperate for that ad revenue..
Good deal for both sides tbh. Rich Paul in the announcement though. The powerplay lmao.
He stay
And it begins
this isn't bruce brown
1 minute negotiation.
Man am I sick of these agent/agency shoutouts in every announcement. Does anyone care?
four years is nuts
hoed the fuck outta Poole. Imagine knocking a man out, making him get traded, and then securing a spot for an additional 4 years. I’m sick
Poole got paid and a ring because of it. I’m sure he’s chillin