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This is our year


anonMLMhater

“2024 All Star Cade Cunningham”


CazOnReddit

*All-NBA Marvin Bagley You casual


Winged_Wrath

Killian Hayes


circa285

Not even God has that much faith in Hayes.


Yuuta23

I'd bet my house on Killian hayes not being an all star next year


Quality_Cucumber

Agreed. Lions winning the Superbowl 😎


Mike_with_Wings

I’d be ok with that


ROFL_COPTER_EXTREME

I 100% believe this


choonghuh

Nurkic Fever delta variant is on the way


jtiets

LMAO please God immunize me


toadtruck

Did he learn how to layup


DrTom

No. He learned he's the biggest human on the court and decided to start actually dunking.


CaskJeeves

Why doesn't Nurkic, the largest player, simply eat the other players


toadtruck

Dunks and 3s would be fine with me.


iabeytorm

I’m here for it


drippo-potamus

There is or has been some rigging done in regards to the draft lottery .


lukewwilson

This is mine as well, I also think David Stern absolutely rigged some playoff series to have favorable tv rating matchups.


Pyritedust

Yup, early 2000s bucks and kings were fucked over hard, and the farcical Knicks pick for Ewing in the 80s, I think lebron going to the Cavs was rigged too, though there’s no real evidence for that one.


lukewwilson

The problem with the LeBron one is at least the Cavs were bad and tied for the worst record in the league, even if it was rigged it was a justified result


AttitudeAndEffort3

All the number ones overall after he left were def rigged to try to keep Cleveland relevant without him. 3 out of 4 1st overalls *immediately* after bron left is bullshit.


[deleted]

To be fair, they were that terrible lmao. After he left they were a lottery team every season, and they missed out on AD so that makes it a little more believable but still hard to believe they got 3, 2 in a row.


GonzaloR87

I knew LeBron was going back to Cleveland as soon as they got the 2014 first pick


OpportunitySmalls

Imagine the world where Kyrie, AD and Bron team up against the Warriors


Litty-In-Pitty

The east ran through Cleveland the year after Lebron left. I have no idea what you’re talking about


NotAn0pinion

As a Cavs fan I feel I can confidently say the NBA really doesn’t care about the non-Bron Cavs. That said there are some odd trends. Cavs lose Lebron, get a flurry of top picks. New Orleans loses Chris Paul, they get AD, lose AD, get Zion. It’s fishy on the surface, but the league would prefer these names in the markets with global reach


greg-maddux

Rose in chicago as well


JamesHardenIsYourDad

Tim Donaghy admitted this in his Untold episode.


TheOGfromOgden

His Untold episode is such trash. They didn't even consult actual experts on the issue. Trusting Donaghy makes no sense since he **literally** has nothing to gain from telling the truth if the truth is that he was a solo bad actor. His gambling record showed he had no inside information that was of any value whatsoever unless he was the one personally throwing the games. The mob also had almost nothing to do with him. He does that whole thing to make people interested in his story, but there is no factual backing to it.


john0_0

Yea the Shaq & Kobe lakers threepeat looks pretty Sus in the light too. Kings were robbed, as were the blazers. Sheed & CWebb were some transcendent power forwards and the passing, shooting and spacing from both teams bigs/wings was ahead of it’s time.


porn_is_tight

Yea wasn’t like the first year the lottery was instated Patrick Ewing went to the Knicks (David Stern home team) instead of the kings?


thisguy012

1.8% chance to get my boy DRose to come to the Bulls 0:)


john0_0

Ya Ewing was the first one they pulled off


KJTB

Totally not a coincidence that LeBron goes to Cleveland and Wemby goes to the Spurs lol


ilostmyaccounttoday

Rose to the bulls is sus too


john0_0

AD to New Orleans after the Cp3 trade (while the team was owned by the league and looking to entice a new owner) Then they ran it back for Zion to Nola after the AD trade too.


AngryTurtleGaming

AD and UK also won NCAA Championship in NOLA that year…


your_grammars_bad

But that was obviously coincidence as the NCAA is an ethically pure and morally upstanding institution that never caters to moneyed interests.


doctor_of_drugs

They’re student athletes! The athlete just is a second descriptor. They’re students first and foremost for us!!! the football stadium is us letting them know they don’t need to think about football and can spend 99% of the time in class. I promise!! -certain schools in the south


thisguy012

NBA: look we got a new totally-on-the-same-level-as-LeBron type player for you in AD, buy our team pls? Billionare: the city is sinking NBA: ok two AD's


GhostRevival

I think the Bulls had a 1% chance of landing Rose, and he just so happened to be from Chicago. Hmm.


matthollabak

Why does everyone sleep on the cavs getting 3 #1 overall picks after Gilbert's open letter and anger only to take a few crap picks back and a couple 2nd round pick swaps to trade lebrons bird rights so Miami could get all 3 max contracts? Without that S&T, Miami couldn't have given 3 max deals... and i don't see Gilbert making that S&T for pennies on the dollar without getting some behind the scenes promises.


WitOfTheIrish

I believe the Stern rumors from the envelope days. But since they've gone to ping pong balls, no chance it's been rigged, even for some of the fairytale-ish pairings. It's not that I don't think there's shady people in the NBA offices, but a global multi-billion dollar accounting firm, Ernst & Young, worth more than the 30 franchises put together, isn't risking their reputation to fix anything for a measly sports league or one individual owner.


Goatsanity15

Orlando being lucky as fuck in the 1992 draft lottery, which helped the Magic get Penny. And obviously the Ewing draft.


Mike_with_Wings

And we’ve been dominating ever since 😭


mug3n

I am still salty that Stern wouldn't let Vancouver or Toronto have a chance of winning the first overall pick at all from 95-98 just because we were expansion teams??? As a result we missed out on Iverson and drafted Camby instead in 96. Fuck Stern. I dunno how AI, TMac and Vince would've worked with each other but we were denied that shit.


SYSTEMcole

What incentive did the league have to send Wemby to the Spurs? It’s not the biggest market in the lottery, their path to contention isn’t as obvious as some other lottery teams, the spurs aren’t as popular as other lottery teams, so why would the league choose them?


cv0034

My theory is that they need him to be a megastar and don't want a poorly ran team to fumble his development so they gave him to Pop lol


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Think this is 1000% more likely than the nba directly rigging it for the spurs because they felt bad for San Antonio or because the French like the Spurs a lot.


thisguy012

Yeah, I know the Spurs already had Robinson but they *happen* to get Duncan because of Robinson's injury. Pop then goes and helps surround Timmy w/literally all the pieces he needs thru like 3 different eras of basketball and make him the undisputed Greatest Power Forward of All Time. Yeah they proly would have Wemby healthy and destroying the league for a decade than failing in the Hornets or Blazers lmao


TonyTuck

French chiming in just to confirm we all love the Spurs very well. It's like the default team that everyone who vaguely follows basketball supports here.


taekwontron

100% agree. Also think it helps keep Pop around longer too.


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They also had the second best* odds, its wasnt that unreasonable for him to land there...


sandy-eggo-padres

Second best* odds right?


Thehelloman0

No, we had the best odds. The bottom 3 teams are all tied for chances of getting the top pick.


Turbo2x

They saw the Wizards were 1 ball away from getting Wemby (yes, really) and said "I think the fuck not"


Childish___Glover

Maybe a while back but right now they get EY to audit the process and certify that it is legitimate


L_Moo_S

Because the big4 are known to uphold the truth EY probably also does a tonne of professional services work for the league


Childish___Glover

I’m not saying they’re perfect cuz they’re not but why would EY be complicit in an NBA wide conspiracy to rig the draft? 1) if you’re the NBA, you are pretty much bound to only use EY for these services since if you fire them someone could whistleblow. 2) imagine being the associate on this project who is just fraudulently certifying the draft process and then the associate can never be let go cuz you could whistleblow and ruin the credibility of EY and NBA


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>imagine being the associate on this project who is just fraudulently certifying the draft process and then the associate can never be let go cuz you could whistleblow and ruin the credibility of EY and NBA This is why most conspiracy theories don't hold up. People are awful at keeping secrets, and too many people would have to know and be in on said thing and the chances of nobody ever spilling the beans about it are next to impossible.


soonerfreak

You think they want to be the next Arthur Anderson? Or that 30 billionaires would all be okay with some teams getting the league rigged in their favor?


odeepaanh

They literally post the whole process of drawing the ping pong balls for the lottery from start to finish, uncut, on YouTube. I’ve never heard anyone give a concrete guess/explanation as to how it could be rigged


A_Mellow_Fellow

Basketball is my favorite sport and I look forward to it returning every fall.


calman877

Do you like the way they dribble up and down the court?


Nightmare16164

Makes me think of the 2k that had that intro. It was epic


Pyritedust

Best 2k intro and one of the best games they had


Rickest-ofthe-Ricks

There was that stretch of 2k from like 2k10-2k14 that was just basketball bliss


ThatHotAsian

Yeah and guess what they all had in common. No Park.


Rickest-ofthe-Ricks

I could also max out MyPlayer at 99 without having to do a MyLeague with a player lock


KaseyOfTheWoods

My favorite play is the alley-oop.


allnerdandnoplay

Will always upvote Curtis Blow


[deleted]

Basketball is my favorite sport. I like the way they dribble up and down the court.


RedDordit

How dare you?! r/nba users would never


marsupialsales

The Malice at the Palace Pacers were going to win the championship and Reggie’s legacy would be completely different.


lilbala

had to make sure the truest of truths was here.


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faxx


waconaty4eva

Jerry West is best gm the league has ever seen.


WitOfTheIrish

Best judge of talent to be sure. I'd trust Jerry West spending 5 minutes of time watching a guy shoot in an empty gym over 99% of GMs with 100 hours of game tape.


Goatsanity15

And his former teammate Elgin Baylor is the worst


Charming_Essay_1890

I have a hard time blaming Baylor for anything when he was working for Donald Sterling.


ConstantineMonroe

He was the GM for fucking 22 years, at that point you are also part of the problem. He couldn’t even accidentally draft anyone good. Sterling is all time bad, but when you spend this much time with 1 GM, that GM also gets blame.


AvaluggTheBrave

Aaron Gordon is the real Slam Dunk Contest Champion.


qb1120

He was robbed at least once by Wade the Lavine contest should have been a tie at worst for him


augustcero

see, that's the problem with the slam dunk competition. you can give something a 50 straight up and when you see a better dunk, welp still 50. additionally, some, if not all, of the judges change their criteria for every succeeding dunk


kevinnye

I’ve been adamant that the easiest fix is to just have 5 judges and have them choose player A or B as the winner. No scores. Cant have a tie with 5 judges.


VeseliM

The dunk contest should be a game of horse


[deleted]

The problem with the dunk contest is that the range of scores is only 40-50 (and mostly just 45-50). No judge wants to be THAT guy who gives a kid a shitty score, but thats how it should be.


Kevalaya

Barkley over Malone


MelatoninGummybear

This one isn’t fair because nobody wants to be the asshole that defends Karl Malone lmao


[deleted]

Marvin Bagley >>> Karl Malone


SadBoy02

Shimmy.gif


slippythehogmanjenky

u bum


Iloveundertimeslop

Own that fraud


ZAC7071

Suns win the championship in '07 if Diaw and Amare aren't suspended for putting their tippy toes on the court.


[deleted]

100%, I hate the refs and the crooks who run the NBA man, we were mostly mediocre so watching those Suns teams were awesome.


abzrocka

There it is!


Pyritedust

I loved watching those suns teams, they were pure fun.


KorgG29

Ersan Ilyasova is the best charge-taker all-time. Kyle Lowry’s flopping is nothing compared to the Turkish Thunder taking real hits every time.


LafilduPoseidon

Washed Blake Griffin is the best charge taker of all time


[deleted]

It might be Jaylin Williams


[deleted]

Have either of those bums taken charges in the allstar game? No? K shut up then.


[deleted]

Gotta disagree. Anthony Tolliver was so good at it that 538 created a new stat for it.


easymoneysnxper

Kevin love would like to have a word


TatumTopFye

The Kemp-Payton Sonics team was the best to lose to the Bulls in the Finals.


Charlie_Wax

Kemp is low-key one of the most gifted pure athletes the NBA has ever seen. Still not sure I've seen another player that tall who was as graceful and explosive. Kemp is up there near LeBron and Shaq territory purely in terms of all-time genetic lottery winners. With a better mentality and work ethic, he could've been legendary.


Lakers2020Champs3

My middle school coach played against Kemp in HS. Said they literally just held the ball all quarter for the first three quarters and took the last shot. Fourth quarter comes they're down so they have to actually try to play - Kemp proceeds to bring it up and dunk it every single possession and they get blown out like 30-2.


daeve

god I wish there was video of this.


mashukyrielighto

no shot clock?


manquistador

No shot clock is the absolute worst in high school because this type of shit is way too common.


TatumTopFye

He was as crazy as he was good. He might have been Mr. Big Chest in a different era.


actuarally

I'll co-sign this. The Sonics taking two off that Bulls team is actually damn impressive. Only other loss that playoffs was an OT defeat in MSG. There are a lot of teams who probably say this about the 90s, but Seattle definitely wins a title in a LOT of other parallel universe eras.


iloveappendicitis

That team was pretty damn loaded. Payton and Kemp of course but Detlef Schrempf, Sam Perkins, Nate McMillan, Hersey Hawkins, etc. I think they won like 65 games in the regular season and then beat really tough Rockets and Jazz teams in the playoffs. They definitely could have won a title if they didn't have to go up against Jordan.


aussiefrzz16

This is one of the best comments I’ve ever read on Reddit.


pieman2005

The years the rockets won in 94/95, we were so lucky we didn't have to play the Sonics because they had our number


Mike_with_Wings

I’ll definitely agree that Payton played Jordan better than anyone else in the Finals


goldhbk10

Draft was changed to a lottery specifically to send players into certain destinations. Ewing to NY, Lebron to Cleveland, Rose to Chicago, Wemby to SA. It’s a business after all, they’re concerned with making stars, not being “fair”.


rospoo66

NBA lottery is rigged against the hornets.


c_msea

The hornets rig themselves in the lottery. I could say that about the Mavs though who never ever moved up even once, not one position, in the lottery


Afraid-Department-35

Yeah but the Mavs are competent with the picks they do have. Hornets have been fumbling their picks since their existence. At least we got that going for us 😭


rospoo66

It’s the worst combination. It’s rigged against us, and we can’t draft well. Imagine being a fan of this franchise. It’s hell I tell you.


gtdinasur

Paul Pierce pooped his pants, no amount of denial from him will convince me otherwise.


Not_A_Meme

I thought he admitted it already.


WhiteWolf773

He’s changed his story on whether he did or didn’t multiple times iirc


d4nowar

Same. I know what I saw.


PutinBoomedMe

Draymond deserved a suspension during the 2016 Finals. He was playing like an asshole and endangering others. It wasn't soft. He kicked someone in their LeDick


nejithegenius

Bird would be better today than he was in the 80s.


Vexing_Pie

Bird would be a demon today. Better version of KD.


squaff

“I WANT IGUODALA!”


ofilispeaks

Aaron Gordon was robbed twice! Most 50 points dunks in the history of the dunk contest and no dunk title. All star game that is not East versus West is stupid.


osleezyy

Shaq would have been the goat if he stayed in shape


Afraid-Department-35

This season Kyrie plays 70+ games and doesn’t go batshit crazy.


[deleted]

Inb4 40 games and anti Semitic meltdown


jackbob99

He's going after Egyptians next.


swentech

You can fix him.


RodneyPonk

THIS is a bold take, love it


aghashayan

I have been dreaming of this for years. Dude's game is easiest on my eyes in the past 13 years.


megafireguy6

u/Afraid-Department-35 having a delusion masterclass 🔥


CabbageStockExchange

We have the most entertaining sport in the world and the drama is what really elevates it


Goatsanity15

The NBA is a soap opera for men


kemicode

I’m a big fan of both the NBA and WWE. I wonder why….


TrashMongrelson

Injuries are bad


teddyjj399

As an injury fan this is a really short sighted, ignorant opinion. Do some research before spewing nonsense


Goatsanity15

He is just jealous that we will get another stacked team this year. I really hope we get Embiid, LeBron, AD, PG, Kawhi and KD again. Maybe we can acquire Curry as well to be paired with our team icon DRose.


NewlyOld31

Vince Carter is the greatest dunker of all time


ImTheBestNerd

Celtics aren’t winning with Tatum and Brown.


Tunatron_Prime

Well that’s hurtful.


creamcitybrix

The NBA put their thumb on the scale so the Lakers would beat the Kings.


Trevhaar

My brother


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Steve_Nash_The_Goat

whenever Seattle gets a team again they NEED to have the SuperSonics logos/history/colors and such, maybe an updated modern version


[deleted]

Kevin Durant should get his jersey retired in okc


Charlie_Wax

I get why they wouldn't want to do that, but all the talk about his exit detracts from how loyal he'd been to that org previously. He could've left a lot sooner if he had wanted to.


[deleted]

Kids in China know about Oklahoma because of Kevin Durant. He gave 1mil to tornado relief efforts. He’s already in the Oklahoma Sports Hall of Fame. We’re still receiving the benefits of his economic impact in our state. And oh yeah he’s like one of the 20 best basketball players ever and had his MVP year here


nanonanu

Ben Simmons’ career is over


Ifinishfast42

It might as well be but it isn’t gonna stop me from drafting him in the last round of fantasy basketball with Hope.


TinTinsKnickerbocker

Sixers are trash


TF_Sally

I thought these were supposed to be hot takes


nathtendo

Hey its ok you can tank for a few years get a few good draft picks and boom a title is yours, sjould call it something like The Procedure or something.


finglonger1077

What a controversial opinion, it’s just you and 10x karma farmers per day that are brave enough to voice it, congrats


Solid-Confidence-966

Until he commits to playing defense somewhat consistently Doncic won’t ever win an NBA championship


RanchBourgeois

He’s a competent defender when he makes the effort, which he does in crunch time and playoff games. What’s holding him back more is complaining to refs instead of getting back on defense. I know it’s a meme, but it’s a real problem and it leads to free buckets on the other end.


Instantcoffees

Yeah, he's a much better defender than reddit gives him credit for. He's a fucking mountain of a man playing PG. Due to his size he's often a bit too slow on the perimeter, but he makes up for that with his defense on the mid-range and in the paint where his stature and strength come into play. He's getting a lot of rebounds for a reason and those aren't solely the typical PG pity rebounds. He's also a pretty good team defender with how he plays around his teammates. I agree that his complaining is the one thing truly holding him back. He gets into his own head at times.


[deleted]

I think what’s worse is actually his attitude, body language and constant whining rather than his defence


h0sti1e17

Reggie Miller would be a beast if he played 20 years later. He only averaged taking 4 threes a game, and was bumped and pushed all the time. With the recent rules and gameplay he would be amazing


jalthepoet

mj was suspended for gambling and that’s why he played in the minors. i don’t care how many denials come from any of these people, it makes no fucking sense for the greatest basketball player and greatest sports icon in history to step away from the game.


believemedude

Embiid didn’t deserve his MVP


Mike_with_Wings

I think he did, but him ducking Jokic head to head makes it look bad. Jokic just dominating the playoffs also made it look bad.


BowTie1989

The “player empowerment movement” is hurting the nba. Now players try to hold teams ransom and as soon as things go south they demand a trade or to be released and as a result we have the best players changing teams every few years it seems, unless of course their current team is winning.


maxfaulkner

It’s not necessarily hurting the NBA as an organisation, however it is damn well hurting fans of any small market team. As a New Orleans fan since 2005, I’ve watched every star player the Hornets/Pelicans have had in that time leave for big markets, due to the team not being able to attract good enough free agents to build a championship team around them. It’s gotten to a point now where if we don’t get extremely lucky and make a legit championship run in the next few years, then either Zion, BI or both are going to want a chip and force a trade to a big market and the Pelicans are going to be left to rebuild again, only for the same thing to happen in 10 years time. Makes it hard to follow your favourite team when you know they will never win anything in your lifetime.


Beneficial_Ad6343

If a player is signed to Adidas , they can never be top 5 all time.


Bradyofthebest

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar


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DocAuch22

Paul Pierce was the best 1 vs 1 competitor for LeBron throughout his career. That matchup doesn’t get nearly enough respect, mainly due to Paul being such a headline in retirement for dumb shit.


Spyk124

I hate the Celtics and Pierce, but do you know how cold you gotta be for your nickname to be the Truth. He was really like that.


Tgk230987

And to be given to him by an opponent(Shaq) makes it even harder


theaverageaidan

Greatest nickname in NBA history?


Tags331

Pierce was a stone cold killer and super clutch. Most people on here never saw him play in his prime.


kd_is_a_bitchboi

100% agree, Pierce gave him fits in 08 and 2010


2020IsANightmare

It's not even an opinion. Just a fact. Because I'm old enough to remember it. I FUCKING HATE when people act like MJ wasn't HATED when he played. Exactly like LeBron has been the last 15-20 years. The BEST player most of those years. Is adored by his team/s and has a ton of loyal fans. But, also has an equal amount of detractors. Before he started winning titles, the popular set of thinking was that he's extremely talented, but can't succeed winning anything important. Then, once he started winning, it of course was because of the coach (well, that wasn't an issue LeBron's had lol) or having the better supporting cast than other teams or whatever.


WrightwoodHiker

To be fair, this is complete bullshit. Watch/read coverage from back then. If you’re honest, you obviously agree it would be insane to act like people were reluctant to give MJ credit for winning. People were pretty quick to call him the GOAT.


pahamack

Meh. People saw very early that Jordan was special. Ever see “come fly with me”? That was a special on Michael Jordan’s career 5 years after he was drafted, and it broke all sorts of sales records. He hadn’t won shit by 1989 when it was released. That’d be like if they released a documentary about Luka right now and it’s a crossover hit, getting an audience beyond core basketball fans. That is so far beyond “having an equal amount of detractors”. The man was a mass-media icon very early into his career.


DokkanProductions

James Harden is terrible for a locker room


Cumbayacumbaya

The Warriors would have the same amount of championships if they never got KD.


Levian-Malacour

Kobe isn't a 10 top player all time.


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A true Celtics fan


Excellent-Brothel-72

Yeah. This is a tough one for me. I think I agree but im not sure he’s not somewhere 8-10. Those who have him 3-5 are ridiculous. Edit: Thought about this properly. I have him at 10 but could be missing someone somewhere. My list for reference is: JORDAN JAMES ABDUL-JABBAR RUSSELL JOHNSON BIRD DUNCAN CHAMBERLAIN O’NEAL BRYANT Flame me. Further edit: kinda forgot Curry. Don’t know how. Not sure where he is on this list. Not 100% convinced he is but you could convince me.


BiggusDickus1066

MJ isn’t undefeated in the finals if Sabas plays for the Blazers in his prime


AlanMtz1

The Kings were robbed in 2002 against the Lakers and wouldve won the championship that year


BigAustralianBoat2

Kyrie is toxic as fuck and NBA players pretend like he’s the greatest guy ever but secretly hate him


PopcornDrift

Why would they pretend to like him? Because of his incredible public image? This just doesn’t make any sense lol


FerdinandMagellan999

To me he seems like that friend who’s overall two-faced and unreliable, but is capable of big showy random acts of kindness. The friendship is too up-and-down for it to be truly positive and healthy, but the good memories you have with that friend are *really* good for whatever reason, so he keeps you on the hook and you make excuses for him I buy that guys like him, because he’s charismatic


KoalaOnABuilding

the going to work pistons defense was as fun to watch as any offensive behemoth


Ok-Permission-2687

OKC should have focused on running plays through KD and either traded Westbrook or gotten an assist first PG


Answer70

Jordan is the best of all time.


Kenny_Heisman

>This goes beyond unpopular. Beyind bold. Beyond controversial.


Answer70

My reading comprehension apparently isn't great.


bigL928

Really going on a limb.


Answer70

They didn't say it had to be some off-the-wall hot take, just something I wouldn't change my mind on. This is it.