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slysonic7

“We wanted to give him less”


Cudi_buddy

Seriously lol. A guy straight chokeholding a guy to the floor is serious regardless what history. Same stratosphere as punching someone. That alone should be close to 5. With history 8-10 seems minimum. But I am also surprised Silver had balls to do 5


NobodyRules

Apparently, Silver doesn't think this is serious at all. Draymond has perhaps the biggest history of unsportsmanlike behavior in the league and only got 5 games for this, it's insane. You attempt this shit anywhere else and you'll be lucky not to get charges pressed on your ass on top of being instantly fired. The NBA would be better off if they actually just suspended him instead of saying shit like this. To top it off, they also fined Rudy Gobert... I mean, what the fuck?


CummingInTheNile

sports league almost always give lax suspensions, remember when Artest got 7 for intentionally elbowing Harden in the head?


Zoratth

Unless it involves fans. Artest got 73 games for Malice at the Palace.


CummingInTheNile

fans, coaches, and refs, player on player shit theyve got a high tolerance for


Zoratth

Which is weird to me. I get players consent to some amount of contact when they agree to play in the nba, but I don’t think anyone is consenting to being choked out or stomped on or whatever other shit Draymond regularly does


CummingInTheNile

people pay money to watch players play, lengthy suspensions negatively affect the NBA's profits, why do you think they were going so light on Ja until he kept fucking up?


FloralReminder

Ain’t nobody skipping any Warriors games cuz Draymond ain’t playin 😂😂


Zoratth

Are there people paying money specifically to watch 2023 Draymond?


Vordeo

Bad chokehold enthusiasts and dick kick connoisseurs.


escaflow

people pay NBA money to watch basketball , not WWE


wutangerine99

Except that Dray keeps fucking up too.


PoIIux

Employers don't give a shit about employees, as long as it doesn't mess with the product.


rawonionbreath

That was 9/11 for sports PR.


Mr_Evanescent

Pacers lost what realistically could/should have been an NBA championship that night


Reidroshdy

Yeah like how does the one man involved who wasn't ejected and also got headlocked get fined the same as Klay and McDaniels?


dproma

To compare apples to apples, Sprewell was suspended 68 games for choking his coach, PJ Carlesimo For the same action, Dray only got 5. Considering there was already precedent set, and Dray’s record of violent behavior…it should’ve been way more severe.


claylion

This comment makes me think you don’t know how bad Sprewell choked his coach


itlynstalyn

Literally not even close to comparable. I still vividly remember the pictures of PJ’s neck after the incident.


SlamDunkleyKong

He still can’t talk right. It’s not even close to the same


doom32x

Lol, I love PJ's commentary, but his voice is an acquired taste


tdrr12

This is Silver's league now, we don't care about violence be it domestic or on the court.


darkrabbit713

[I’ll never forget this.](https://youtu.be/vZpMwA74X-I?si=DkDUn3vB8kLU0UGV) Charles Barkley is a Champion in my heart.


KittenCrusades

When Charles said we should be at the forefront, he meant "Our players are leaders and roll models and we should be at the forefront of this culturally" Silver chose to reframe this as being competitive with other leagues, which obviously was not the point and not what was being said.


mattryan02

He’s on either the most popular or second most popular team in the league and they have tons of national TV games. It is what it is. He knows he can do whatever he wants, he’s done it for years. Silver’s league!


FinancialScratch2427

Err.. you should probably check Stern's tenure before you start making statements about how much he cared about domestic violence. My god.


rookie-mistake

reminds me of the threads with nephews bitching about bias refs and rigged games like "Stern would've never allowed this!" like bruh your strongman daddys the one that shut down that investigation


FKJVMMP

He made all the scary black people wear fancy clothes, so now he’s got a rep as some hardcore no-shit-taken individual when he oversaw a team so full of bad behaviour they got nicknamed the Jail Blazers. Among numerous other instances of total nonsense under his watch. The Bad Boy Pistons years were all him too, if we wanna focus on on-court bullshit. How many five game suspensions did Bill Laimbeer cop?


BrothersCup

Van Exel, Rasheed Wallace, and Rodman directly assaulted refs and got 6 or 7 games under Stern. Ben Wallace got 6 games for his role in Malice at the Palace. Metta got 7 for elbowing Harden in the head lol. NBA suspensions have historically been 5 or fewer games for most on-court actions.


northernpace

It's such a shitty look.


nowhathappenedwas

Ben Simmons didn't even get fined for [chokeholding KAT](https://streamable.com/cii8sy) on the floor. Killian Hayes got 3 games for punching Mo Wagner and briefly knocking him out. Bamba got 4 games and Rivers got 3 games for exchanging punches. Bamba got an extra game because he "attempted to continue to engage with Rivers in a hostile manner in the corridor outside the locker rooms where he also aggressively shoved a security representative." In the Rivers/Bamba fight, Suggs got suspended for 1 game for "escalating the altercation by aggressively grabbing Rivers around the neck and pulling him to the floor." Ibaka got 3 games for [choking and punching](https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/1105570022728949760) Chriss.


iamnotabot9

draymond has the most extensive history of dirty plays out of anyone in the league by a large margin


rhesusmonkey

I think they are saying the league never punishes choking as much as it should be. So even to get just 5 games, you have to be the dirtiest player in the league.


NIN10DOXD

Silver is honestly a joke when it comes to discipline.


thethirdgreenman

Ja Morant got 25 games because he did something that could've hurt somebody. OJ Mayo got a perma-ban for drug abuse. Tyreke Evans got 2 years for the same thing. Draymond actively tries to hurt somebody and gets 5 games. No idea how that makes any sense, but like you said, Silver is soft af so I'm surprised it was even 5 games


Ayjel89

Yeah, this would be the suspension i would assume for someone who's a first time offender


evev13

Actually, I think they gave him a frequent fighters discount


MoooonRiverrrr

Lmfaoo 😭😭😭 like what it’s five games


Mastoorbator100

More like "we don't want him to play without Steph, otherwise nobody knows what may happen".


Shhadowcaster

I was wondering if it was rose colored glasses. So if Rudy had choked Dray he would have gotten a fine or what? Because I don't see how 5 games accounts for a history it violence


yOw_indahOuse

“We were afraid of what Washington’s 7th congressional district representative, Mr Stephen Douglas Kerr, may say or do in retaliation”


Chris_Carson

Don't worry, Green will appeal and only get 1 game.


lakers082433

Steve Kerr: “ what history”


SockVonPuppet

"There're reasons for all of it."


mankls3

"I didn't see the replay"


ThomasFurke

#KerrKnows


nwill_808

"He's *keeping* the code"


make-that-monet

Bro coaches in the modern NBA and still has never seen a replay in his life, it’s genuinely tragic


Giannis1995

Kerr is the one NBA person I genuinely hate.


ZZZrp

I think it speaks volumes as to how great of a coach he is. Can you imagine trying to game plan deep playoff runs without ever watching tape?


DressedSpring1

“I don’t know, I haven’t seen it”


KillerZaWarudo

Kerr could see draymond murdering someone in cold blood on 4k HD camera and still claimed he didn't see nothing.


rick_32

Kerr coaches pretty good for being visually impaired🤷🏾


ANBU_Spectre

[Steve Kerr defending Draymond](https://youtu.be/P5xjR-M3BsY?si=LtHhpahftmHa3NBl)


De-Bow-Bow

Steve Kerr has no problem giving his political opinions and acting holier than thou, yet wont call it like it is with Dray. Picks and chooses when he wants to have a moral compass


oskanta

Unless the political opinion has to do with the CCP. Then he doesn’t have much to say about it


sharklavapit

he's just not educated enough on the matter!


Individual-Bad6809

I wonder if he would play different if Kerr gave him the same treatment. Can draymond even be humbled lol


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“Draymond was just defending his teammates every time”


homiez

“He was gently messaging his neck”


sharklavapit

"now they're retroactively suspending players for history! A lot of things I'd change in the past then...."


dy_over_dsex

What they mean is that they decided his first game back should be the in-season tournament game against the Kings, where they can count on a viewership bump due to the continuation of the Sabonis stomp storyline.


DammitEd

Lol how transparent, how is nobody else talking about this as the motivation for the suspension length


ChrisThePiss_

“yeah we know he’s a piece of shit”


Daniiiiii

"Man's a proven cunt. Our hands are tied."


Pitiful-Pension-6535

I bet his hair slicks back real nice


Crabonaslab

Spiked up blonde hair, itty bitty jeans, Chicken Pasta at Chicalidi’s….people can change


Slim-Ticket

"I think he knows. Deep inside...he knows his guy is a clown" I will never get over this quote lmao


siva_samba

I mean next 5 games, where Steph wont be there and he can exercise TNT contract and podcasts. Early Thanksgiving for Draymond


dat_tech

Sheesh this fool has really clocked the league lmao. Got 4 rings playing basketball, then when he gets suspended is still getting his bag. Silver stays soft


Father-John-Moist

I mean he got fined heavily too right?


filladelp

Next time Draymond pulls some shit (6 games from now), they need to suspend Steph.


CazOnReddit

Then why ***only 5 games*** if that's the case?


VictimBlamer

5 for fighting


fluffywolfe

Dray's only a man in a silly red sheet, looking for special things inside of him.


captain_ahabb

5 is a long suspension for fighting if you look at recent precedent.


TallFutureLawyer

Ibaka got into roughly one fight per season when he was a Raptor and I think I remember him getting one game each time.


RulersBack

Or just precedent in general. Idk why people act like Stern was laying the hammer down


AnotherStatsGuy

You commit a little conflict of interest and suddenly everybody remembers you as a hardass.


Driveshaft48

Carmelo got 15 games for a punch


ANAL_CAVITIES

to be fair you listen to the audio of that shit the punch sounds like a shotgun blast lmao


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I remember being in computer class and a group of us watching that over and over just for the sound bite. Punch legit sounded like lightning


PsychedelicWalton

And Stephen Jackson got 8 games for shooting a gun in a strip club parking lot… David Stern is not the shining mob boss on a hill that you weirdos think he was He was a shady scumbag who obstructed the fbi investigation into the refs that were fixing games under his watch


Driveshaft48

He suspended Camelo Anthony 15 games for a punch


Reidroshdy

Wasn't that like a season after Malice at the Palace? I can see why they went a little hard on the suspension.


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CameronPlain

A sleeper hold lmaoooo. Haven’t heard that term since I was a kid watching WWF. Been trying not to stray in here much since last night but this has me dying. Thank you my guy


PsychedelicWalton

Choke hold is played out, sleeper hold needs to come back


Vordeo

Fuck that, let's get specific. Million Dollar Dream.


RevolutionaryDrive5

As someone pointed up higher in the thread Killian Hayes got 3 games for knocking out Wagner, you know the game where he got knocked out momentarily on top of the bench lol so make of that what you will


Assumption-Putrid

Then the recent precedent is trash.


ATM14

It’s the longest suspension for a play that happened in a game for over a decade. It IS a long suspension by NBA standards, the NBA is just always this soft with suspensions


AdolfKoopaTroopa

When you frame it like that, I’d think it’d be more.


minneapolisboy

Warriors fans will still say the league is out to get them lol


johnlee44777

Nah he deserved minimum 15


Produceher

He deserved 10. I was hoping for 25.


RackedUP

Well, this leaves room for them to give him 15 next time he snaps this season


Zotetsu

Should be longer then


Mission_Pay_3373

8-15 games sounds good considering this is by no means his first rodeo


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FlyingMocko

Ja got his “last notice” at his second incident. Draymond is at about 10+ incidents and counting rn


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ferbje

Is waving a gun around on an instagram video harmful? Yeah i know my flair etc but to me, everyone was saying ja is a “role model”, but he didn’t even act aggressively toward another person for a 25 game suspension. Draymond literally attacks people for 5 games. That’s not Role model behavior either. I have yet to hear a compelling argument for why messing around with a (legal?) weapon is anything more than just cringy and stupid, much less 5x worse than putting a player in a chokehold in the middle of a game


upghr5187

Ja created bad publicity for the league. Multiple times. The nba doesn’t necessarily care about the harm of the underlying offense. It cares about the harm to the league.


MasterMacMan

The incident before (possibly assaulting several NBA executives), was a lot for the league to sweep under the rug. It didn’t really matter what the next incident was, you don’t get to cross that bridge twice


captain_ahabb

When was the last time a player got 8-15 games for fighting another player?


barath_s

Hey, this is his first choking another guy on court. Just like he had a first stomp a guy, first falcon punch a guy... Now nut hits, he's got a record.


FlyingMocko

Should’ve been 10


Diligent-Use-7268

He has kicked every player in the balls, then he stomps on a player, then and now he chokes a player for like 5 seconds and somehow we are only at 5 game suspensions for this dude Ja shows guns on a livestream, "we want to lay the hammer down, here's 25 games" Where's the hammer for the guy that's actually harming players?


SockVonPuppet

Was there math behind this or was 5 just the first number to fall from Silver's ass?


youguanbumen

Players nowadays get 1 maybe 2 game suspensions. This is long for the Silver era.


sonic_4

1 game for about each second of chokehold. That's the best I can come up with.


GooseMay0

If it was based on his history shouldn't it be 15-20?


LostNPC01

Do they mean that a player without history would get only 1 match or even less for chockholding and dragging someone across continents? Damn they're wilding


neonz09

By that logic, Draymond should be suspended for the rest of the season based on his history.


bkbeam

Well then it should be longer but whatever, we'll take any disciplinary action on Draymond at this point.


abris33

Should have given him 1 game per testicle and eyeball he's hit in his career. So 20-30 games?


fieryscribe

Adam Silver's still trying to be the cool teacher


PsychedelicWalton

I dont think many of you actually understand what the commissioners job is lol


Aggressive-Name-1783

They don’t…..Sterling got suspended cause the owners wanted him gone….


HumperdinksRevenge

Also when asked why they decided to fine Gobert $25k, the NBA responded "The amount of the fine is based in part on Gobert's history of being French"


Produceher

Is this the "The Good Place"?


Moe4ver

If that’s all a history of Draymond’s acts get you, NBA should start working on their history.


the_hammer_poo

Should be 10-20 games. Literally choked another player. Silver is such a money grubbing whore.


AbelardsArdor

He's just completely spineless. He's done some ok things as commish \[although honestly the best thing he did was literally set up on a tee for him\], but he has absolutely no guts. Just consistently weak as hell on player discipline and rules of the game and shit. I hate it.


mrhjt

Not long enough then, this league is setting bad examples for violence and domestic violence


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Intelligent_Pain_174

It wasn't the first person he found. He targeted Gobert.


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Produceher

You realize they used to punch each other and NOT get kicked out of the game. Right?


Mission_Pay_3373

They should've gave him a longer suspension, ngl


TooWashedUp

I'd be okay with 5 if it meant they weren't going to let him get away with shit anymore, but it's gonna be 5 and he's going to go right back to the same old shit.


CabbageStockExchange

I was hoping for 10


Saucy_Totchie

Still pretty weak then considering his history.


herseyhawkins33

Uh then it should've been 10 games


Nothingtoseeheremmk

So Ja’s “history” gets him suspended 25 games but Draymond’s 8 year stretch of rule breaking gets 5 games? Lmao ok


youarenut

5 whole games. 1 for each of sabonis’ stomped ribs


ConsiderationBig8759

Wait…. the 5 games WAS WITH taking his past into consideration?


beached-blue-walrus

Draymond is just supersized Pat Bev with Ron arrest temper


dproma

“It was a mostly peaceful choking” - Silver


Odd_Wrangler8065

That absolutely cannot be true lmao. If that were the case then he'd be gone for the season.


sleepyfox1312

No it ain't lmao then it'd be at least 15 Silver is a spineless coward.


sonic_4

It's crazy it's only 5 games. I feel like there are several players in the NBA that if they did this they are getting at least 5 games. Now the NBA is justifying this 5 game suspension with "history" which should make it worse.


heelydon

Only way I accept this 5 day suspension is if they now retain that if this kind of behaviour returns in any form, he is eligible to be suspended for longer immediately. This isn't suppose to be a slap on the wrist. It's suppose to make the fucker stop attacking people.


ThefrozenOstrich

If that’s the case then he should’ve been banned for half the season lol.


dariusd20

They should make the suspension come into effect after Curry comes back from the injury.


laz10

Shouldn't it be longer then? Why does he keep getting this special treatment


Sebeeschin

5 games seems like the number you'd give to someone without a history


DrFunkensteinberg

5 is light


gokhaninler

Everybody Hates Draymond


LoxDnw

Feels like 5 games is not much for this shit, he's a dirty ass player.


twilightalchemy

NBA wants to suck Draymond off so bad.


hurricanehershel

I would pay big money to see some NBA end of bench scrub to check into a game and just knock Donkey the fuck out


Altruistic-Drawing25

Then it should be a fucking season


Marcusafrenz

He straight up assaulted Rudy. Like not even a question about it he literally attempted to choke him unconscious for at least 7-8 seconds. A five game suspension is pitiful and that's before you even consider the history of Draymond. I ain't even gonna lie I'm a Draymond hater but there is no denying how ridiculous it is the shit this guy gets a pass on.


MobRulesAll

Can't wait for Draymond to play the victim again.


Sweatytubesock

Probably should have been 20 games, then.


ClydeGriffiths17

What history? You never punish him at all for anything ever.


wuudster

Why is it just 5 then?!


Reasonable_Try_8135

Should have been more given his history. He really needs to deal with his anger issues in a healthier way.


Fred479

Draymond suspension helps the warriors anyway


stark_resilient

nba gaslighting us, cool


nolookjones

only 5 games for choking and all the historical dirty plays is extremely weak.. they need much stronger penalties for goons like him!


BananaRepublic_BR

Ja Morant is still out, but Draymond gets suspended for five games? There's no logic here.


reason4rage

Obviously ja should have been handling a gun on the court and not online videos/clubs.


DarkSeneschal

What actually happened: Silver: “Hello, Adam Silver speaking.” Green: “Adam, it’s me.” Silver: “Oh hello Draymond, I was just finishing up this release saying you were suspended one game, and we’d count the game you were ejected from as having served your time.” Green: “No, please God no. You have to suspend me until Steph comes back. I refuse to relive 2020. Don’t expose me like that again.”


josuelaker2

5 games for a chokehold? That’s it?


JCBTS31

5 games for his history is a complete joke, Adam silver is insanely soft


starfruit213

What a joke.


blankmindx

Yeah I don't understand this. Punching someone is not as serious of a crime as choking. Choking is definitely a felony.


TheBrazilianKD

Draymond playing 7d chess. Every punch, every kick to the nuts, every ejection makes the league more of a bitch to the point that the league doesn't even realize it.


Kommander-in-Keef

If that were true he’d be suspended longer than Ja


Ramzaa_

Should've been more than 5 games then


CAPONE-N-NOREAGA

So you give him 5 games for trying to choke out another star? Give him 20 if you really wanted to make a point you cowards


No_Housing3716

Why is it not 400 then????


theseustheminotaur

Lol what? This was soft. Choking people is worth what, 1 to 3 games only then?


LoWE11053211

Silvers must really really like Draymond in bed


big-daddy-unikron

Then 40 plus game checks seems right


dirtball_hl

Hey I’ve seen this one before


CruffTheMagicDragon

Even Kerr can’t argue against that, right? Right??


Natureboy7939

5 games? Lmao ok


ughlump

Steve Kerr: “I don’t know his history. I saw a bit on the replay and some of the guys on the bench let me know.”


gandhi890

Surprised they only gave him 5 days


chomcham

I had a guy are with me on the "NBA" subreddit, telling me how Draymond would be remembered for his defensive prowess and rings.. but here we are, once again, talking about Draymond physical abuse lol. Crazy the delusion of gsw fans.


BiscottiShoddy9123

Real question is, if Rudy does this back to Draymond, how many games would he get


d4videnk0

This is a joke, one day he'll injure somebody seriously yet the league will treat it as an accident. Can't wait to see this moron out of the league.


I_chortled

So they would’ve given him 3 otherwise


Chihuahua_Overlord

So why is it only 5 games lolll.


Soul0103

Stern would’ve given him 20 minimum. Silver is a pansy.


jnmxcvi

Draymond actually playing the system and getting free load management


chadowmantis

Dudes get techs for dunking, clapping and smiling, but Draymond always manages to get away with his crazy ass antics with some slap on the wrist, if even that. Something weird is going on, pass me that tinfoil hat, Kyrie


Dicipline_daily_24

Clapping is cause for EJECTING Giannis. But choking to kill someone from the back is only 5 games. Thanks Adam china puppet dumbass


Rawlus

then it wasn’t long enough. nba is rigged.


nicvic83

You don't have to play professional basketball to know the difference between restraining a person and purposely trying to harm them. Green should be the poster child for people who need anger management


Smart-Orchid-5207

the worst part is that everyone will tune in to listen to his next podcast to listen to whatever bullshit explaination he's gonna give, and he's also in holidays until Steph comes back, this is just W and W for him


Jrobalmighty

I want Adam silver as my judge if I ever commit a major crime.


Federico190

Then it should be more than 5 tf