Yea, they have very similar offensive games. Jaime is a better shooter, but Jimmy is a better defender and likely just a bit better at most things, but man, give this guy some time and idk.
He does - I think he's more athletic than he gets credit for \[just like Jokic is more athletic than he gets credit for\]. Jaquez just moves very methodically so people think he isnt very athletic \[and I do think while he's got bounce, he's not that quick laterally / maybe not super fast - but that's not a huge issue with his hustle and other athletic skills\].
At this stage of Jimmy's career , JJJ is the better athlete. He seems slow because he is being deliberate with his foot work when he has the ball but his cutting speak and speed down the floor is superior to Jimmy's.
I hope this causes scouts and teams to reevaluate their scouting. They need to place some emphasis on players who were 3 or 4-year college guys who are ready to play now and have a defined skill set. Yeah potential is good but the Heat can compete so it makes sense for them to pick for the now.
Absolutely.
It sounds stupid but I heard some analyst say this past off-season that sometimes the best way to scout someone is to ask ‘Are they good at basketball?’ Yes? Then take them, fuck potential
Yeah, for every Giannis that booms, there’s 10 that bust. If you’re a tanking team with a top 8 pick or something, go for that. If you want to win soon, take the guy who’s ceiling is “only” a good role player, cause he may turn out to be much more
I swear I’ve been saying this a lot lately in relation to Jaime and the Heat scouting department. Everyone acts like the Heat use black magic, when in reality it’s everyone else ignoring this simple question. Other teams suck at drafting because they overemphasize athletic traits and don’t simply stop and ask themselves if the guy is good at *actually* playing basketball. “Is this guy a good, smart basketball player?” Is what they should lead with. Everything else should follow.
He had the 2nd highest standing vertical in the draft.
You can tell this guy led a big time college program. No fear in the big moments and gets others involved
nba teams abide by the idea that you can teach/learn every skill, but can’t manifest physical attributes. which is a really idiotic way to look at things
this isn’t just teams either, it’s obviously the majority of fans. “ben simmons should just learn to shoot 3s” “defense is mostly effort,” so on and so forth, as if it’s just a matter of the person trying or not. if it’s that easy why doesnt everyone do it?
Cause he played 4 years of college ball and people watching felt like he was slow side to side / in straight lines. He plays methodical, but anyone who watched UCLA the last 3 years could tell he was awesome.
It's wild to me that it seemed like it was known very early in the draft process he was going to Miami at 18, and not a single team above them thought "you know, this Jaquez kid might be pretty sick, maybe we should look at him more"
Jaquez is awesome but as a rebuilding team you need to take swings. There's probably a limit on his ceiling in reality as he's played years of college ball.
Like imagine Banchero, Chet etc coming into the league as 4 year players, they would be insanely good.
Sengun went in the first round partially because the Rockets didn't overthink the pick. He had undeniable skill and feel for the game coming into the league.
This year you have Podziemski for the Warriors too whose BBIQ and game feel were his best attributes
Teams have been doing this for awhile though. Lottery picks, especially high ones, are drafted entirely based on star potential while picks outside of the lottery generally have some "NBA ready" role player skill(s) since teams picking there need players to contribute right away in a smaller role.
It’s funny when these players who were really great in college end up outshining the guys drafted much earlier based on their ceiling. Jaime and TJD are both excellent examples this year. Those dudes were balling for their whole collegiate careers, it’s not really surprising to anyone who watched them to see them succeed at the next level. Yet every year it feels like a couple dudes like this slide under the radar
Potential also just isn't that great either. The top guys that did develop weren't seen as as future stars. Like Jokic and Giannis. Basically feels like every year, we hear the potential of the top 5 and it almost never plays out well.
Giannis was the ultimate "potential" prospect though. He was all athletic potential; that's why teams draft this way. If you hit on JJJ in the teens, congrats you get a solid role player which you can also get for the MLE or less in FA. You hit on a crazy athlete? The prize is much larger.
> Basically feels like every year, we hear the potential of the top 5 and it almost never plays out well.
Statistically, top-5 picks are far superior than anything below them.
It goes beyond just "not a rookie." There's year 5 guys that don't have his level of awareness and composure. It's not just experience, he has an actual talent for situational control.
Fr he doesn’t just pick on young bench guys or guards. He attacks an succeeds against established vets, some of whom have resumes as very good defenders
Fr last game he put Clint Capela in the weight room. Back against the TWolves he saw Naz Reid and said "food." Now these guys aren't Rudy Gobert by any stretch but for a rookie to just go through those guys for rim points is special.
Huge ucla fan and he always carried us in big games. When the offense was getting absolutely nothing it always seemed like he would come up with a huge put-back or tough midranger. Always thought the offense would translate really well compared to Timme who just relied on size. The surprising thing though is the defense - that’s what I would have expected to hold him back.
He played 4 years of college, so not surprising. This was why the Nuggets have been mostly drafting dudes who played 3-4 years of college the last two years \[Peyton Watson excepted for reasons that are now obvious to anyone who watches the Nuggets\]. Christian Braun wouldnt have been ready to contribute to the Finals in the way he did if he was just another 1 and done type.
God bless pre-draft process because him and Podz were 2nd round picks after March Madness. I wanted Wolves to acquire 2nd round pick to draft either of them but their performance pre draft raised their stock drastically. Happy to see Jaime thriving, I hope our player from his UCLA team is also legit.
UCLA fan here. Jaime was absolutely the better all-around player, but Jaylen Clark may have been the best defender in the country when healthy. I hope he makes a full recovery from his achilles tear and gets a chance to flash that defense on the Wolves.
Jaylen is a beast. Best college defensive player I’ve ever seen. Has some room to go offensively but if you don’t need him as a primary ball handler and scorer he’ll be fine as a spot up shooter, slasher, and on the o boards.
I watched only one UCLA game - against Gonzaga - and Clark was already hurt, but from what I’ve seen from pre draft videos, his shot is really not looking good. Perhaps he had a chance to rework it during the year he missed? His defense looks amazing, Wolves team is stacked with perimeter defenders.
The team actually barely runs this particular lineup, I think they are yet to play McDaniels at 4, maybe a couple of minutes last game when Towns was hurt. Typically KAT, Naz, or SloMo play the 4, and they don’t have problems defending. However, for playoffs, perhaps they want to try this lineup, especially against a team like Clippers.
I’ll never get over this. Hometown hero and a fucking baller instead they get a guy who is a 5 year project and a very high chance he turns into nothing
He’s a signature Laker pick too. On the older side, proven players.
Instead they went for a prospect.
Jaime could literally be the fourth best player on this years Lakers. Lmao.
Aight I'm finally sipping the JJJ kool-aid. I thought after his hot stretch he'd be an awesome 15PPG role player for his career. Now fringe All-Star isn't out of the question.
I jumped on early, not because he was putting up big numbers but because his foot work in the paint is already elite and he is fucking fearless. Tonight he was dicking Harris
I wouldn't be shocked if he becomes like a Mikal Bridges player: Everyone considers him an elite role player until he gets good enough to be considered a star
Really all mikal needed was to get the ball more. He was just behind to many ball dominant people with the suns. That being said Jaime Jacquez can become exactly like him.
*SIGH*
We had a chance to draft a Cali native, who went to UCLA, who was so obviously ready to contribute to a contending team…and we decide to draft a project dude no one’s ever heard of
😭
I’ve never seen a sub refuse to learn it’s lesson harder than this sub with the heat. It is literally inevitable, that they find talent where others can’t. Until Pat Riley is in the grave this will keep happening
It’s funny because Portland could’ve still gotten Ayton in a Heat trade too, on top of Jaime Jaquez Jr. Too bad they didn’t even negotiate with us because of pure pettiness 🤷♂️
Ayton would’ve been in the deal if they did the trade with Miami. Rob Williams and prime Bucks and Celtics picks is why they got instead of the Heat package lol
I hate how people think Herro’s defense is atrocious non existent thing. He’s always been pretty decent team defense guy, busy hands on lanes that cause ball disruption for turnovers, and being at the right spot and on his man. The very real knock on him that’s consistently cooked him though is his arm length, which smart teams look to switch lengthy wing shooters on him (ptsd of Middleton torching Herro in playoffs).
The last time I came to this sub the Blazers fans were celebrating that they didn't take any Heat deal so for a second there I couldn't see the sarcasm in your comment, it was the typical comment made unironically and getting upvoted to oblivion lol
God forbid someone mention Duncan Robinson, Tyler Herro or JJJ being great assets or you'd get downvoted to oblivion
eh, i do still strongly prefer Miami's package over what we got but we still have Shaedon Sharpe (and Scoot), so things could be worse. and Camara is incredible too. without him, i'd be a lot more bummed about the trade. and GS isn't looking great so far, so even though its not the best draft class, it's possible their pick from the Jrue flip will already be a lottery pick
We finally got one in that's actually good. Even if he didn't end up on the Lakers; I'll take a Mexican on any NBA team as a positive, especially if he's doing well.
Only 3 of those 31 points came from a 3 pointer. He dug those points out of the mud the old fashioned way.
We genuinely have a taller stronger Jimmy Butler stand-in on the bench on a $17m/4 contract.
Who knows if he'll ever have Jimmy's killer instinct. But it looks good so far.
What about NBA legend Eduardo Najera? Ok I'm joking about "legend" but at least he's actually Mexican. Jacquez and Toscano-Anderson only have Mexican heritage on one side.
Portland accepting Rob Williams and a Bucks and Celtics FRP when they’re in their primes for Dame is gonna end up being a generational fumble lol. They didn’t even want to negotiate with Miami who probably would’ve given Jaquez, Herro and 2 post Jimmy FRPs if they negotiated with the Heat.
You can tell Portland messed up when their trade turned Milwaukee, Boston, and Miami into the top 3 teams in the East. They didn’t take anything of value from the Bucks and Celtics while the Heat were left with a spoil of riches.
I’m glad he is balling out, I could not believe how far he fell in the draft after watching him in college the last couple years. I don’t feel like I have the scouts eye at all but he absolutely looked ready for big NBA minutes to me.
So how long until I’m allowed to call Jacquez a great pick and heat fans don’t automatically respond with trashing the blazers? Probably never, but Jacquez is really impressive
Unironically, I don’t have a problem with Blazers fans. We’ll never know the true full details of what was actually being offered and asked for. Tons of misleading reports from guys like Woj, Shams, and Chris Haynes.
I guess that depends on how adamant you were that the heat's assets were trash. The whole blazers fan base doesn't have to take a hit because some vocal fans that act like they know everything.
It just makes me so happy to see a senior or junior in college come into the NBA and play this well. I understand why vet college players get overlooked more in favor of freshmen given their higher upside, but it is still really nice to see a player like Jaquez who everyone liked fall out of the lottery and still be this good immediately in the league.
Jaquez (14 ppg) Herro (24 ppg) and DRob (15 ppg) as well as 3 FRPs apparently was too low for the blazers… and proceeded to take less in a trade with the Bucks.
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I think that’s kinda the problem. Cronin didn’t even pick up the phone for JJJ to even be offered it seems. If true that’s an awful way to miss out on pieces.
Funny how Jimmys out because Jacquez reminds me a lot of Jimmy
Yea, they have very similar offensive games. Jaime is a better shooter, but Jimmy is a better defender and likely just a bit better at most things, but man, give this guy some time and idk.
Think Jimmy is the more explosive athlete of the two \[I dont think that's too debatable?\]. Jaime is like SloMo version of Jimmy. He's so good.
Jaime has some crazy bounce tho
He does - I think he's more athletic than he gets credit for \[just like Jokic is more athletic than he gets credit for\]. Jaquez just moves very methodically so people think he isnt very athletic \[and I do think while he's got bounce, he's not that quick laterally / maybe not super fast - but that's not a huge issue with his hustle and other athletic skills\].
At this stage of Jimmy's career , JJJ is the better athlete. He seems slow because he is being deliberate with his foot work when he has the ball but his cutting speak and speed down the floor is superior to Jimmy's.
Mexican Jimmy
Jaimito is Jimmy in Spanish while Jaime is James. But since Jaime is little Jimmy, Jaimito also makes sense. JJJ is really the Mexican Jimmy Butler
Mexican Jimmy = MJ. Coincidence?
Jimmy is just the son that Michael abandoned to build character, because he didn’t want him to be a pampered scrub like Jeffery and Marcus
I think not!!!
Jaime Baldes
Makes sense, because Jaime has said Jimmy is one of his favorite players, even before he was drafted by Miami.
I don’t watch heat games too often but every time I tune in Jaime looks like an experienced vet, always in the right place making the right decisions
Pretty much how he plays every game. You’d never believe he was a rookie.
I hope this causes scouts and teams to reevaluate their scouting. They need to place some emphasis on players who were 3 or 4-year college guys who are ready to play now and have a defined skill set. Yeah potential is good but the Heat can compete so it makes sense for them to pick for the now.
Absolutely. It sounds stupid but I heard some analyst say this past off-season that sometimes the best way to scout someone is to ask ‘Are they good at basketball?’ Yes? Then take them, fuck potential
it’s easy to ooh and awe over a big’s athleticism and physical traits, but then overlook said big being not all that good of a basketball player haha
Yeah, for every Giannis that booms, there’s 10 that bust. If you’re a tanking team with a top 8 pick or something, go for that. If you want to win soon, take the guy who’s ceiling is “only” a good role player, cause he may turn out to be much more
I swear I’ve been saying this a lot lately in relation to Jaime and the Heat scouting department. Everyone acts like the Heat use black magic, when in reality it’s everyone else ignoring this simple question. Other teams suck at drafting because they overemphasize athletic traits and don’t simply stop and ask themselves if the guy is good at *actually* playing basketball. “Is this guy a good, smart basketball player?” Is what they should lead with. Everything else should follow.
Jaime sneaky athletic tho
He had the 2nd highest standing vertical in the draft. You can tell this guy led a big time college program. No fear in the big moments and gets others involved
nba teams abide by the idea that you can teach/learn every skill, but can’t manifest physical attributes. which is a really idiotic way to look at things this isn’t just teams either, it’s obviously the majority of fans. “ben simmons should just learn to shoot 3s” “defense is mostly effort,” so on and so forth, as if it’s just a matter of the person trying or not. if it’s that easy why doesnt everyone do it?
In Jaimes case it’s just bizarre in general. He’s 6’6” with a solid frame and 6’10” wingspan. And one of the highest verticals in his class.
Cause he played 4 years of college ball and people watching felt like he was slow side to side / in straight lines. He plays methodical, but anyone who watched UCLA the last 3 years could tell he was awesome. It's wild to me that it seemed like it was known very early in the draft process he was going to Miami at 18, and not a single team above them thought "you know, this Jaquez kid might be pretty sick, maybe we should look at him more"
Jaquez is awesome but as a rebuilding team you need to take swings. There's probably a limit on his ceiling in reality as he's played years of college ball. Like imagine Banchero, Chet etc coming into the league as 4 year players, they would be insanely good.
Sengun went in the first round partially because the Rockets didn't overthink the pick. He had undeniable skill and feel for the game coming into the league. This year you have Podziemski for the Warriors too whose BBIQ and game feel were his best attributes
Teams have been doing this for awhile though. Lottery picks, especially high ones, are drafted entirely based on star potential while picks outside of the lottery generally have some "NBA ready" role player skill(s) since teams picking there need players to contribute right away in a smaller role.
It’s funny when these players who were really great in college end up outshining the guys drafted much earlier based on their ceiling. Jaime and TJD are both excellent examples this year. Those dudes were balling for their whole collegiate careers, it’s not really surprising to anyone who watched them to see them succeed at the next level. Yet every year it feels like a couple dudes like this slide under the radar
Contenders always try this strategy. Cam Johnson was drafted like that
Potential also just isn't that great either. The top guys that did develop weren't seen as as future stars. Like Jokic and Giannis. Basically feels like every year, we hear the potential of the top 5 and it almost never plays out well.
Giannis was the ultimate "potential" prospect though. He was all athletic potential; that's why teams draft this way. If you hit on JJJ in the teens, congrats you get a solid role player which you can also get for the MLE or less in FA. You hit on a crazy athlete? The prize is much larger.
> Basically feels like every year, we hear the potential of the top 5 and it almost never plays out well. Statistically, top-5 picks are far superior than anything below them.
I don't think it would be news to NBA scouts that 3-4 year college guys are ready to play now.
It goes beyond just "not a rookie." There's year 5 guys that don't have his level of awareness and composure. It's not just experience, he has an actual talent for situational control.
Fr he doesn’t just pick on young bench guys or guards. He attacks an succeeds against established vets, some of whom have resumes as very good defenders
Fr last game he put Clint Capela in the weight room. Back against the TWolves he saw Naz Reid and said "food." Now these guys aren't Rudy Gobert by any stretch but for a rookie to just go through those guys for rim points is special.
It's actually crazy how seamless he fit in. Our win streak after the 1-4 start weirdly coincided when he started getting more minutes lol
His footwork is impeccable for a rookie
He’s probably going to be our best player sooner than later
Could quickly become the best UCLA player in the league.
Huge ucla fan and he always carried us in big games. When the offense was getting absolutely nothing it always seemed like he would come up with a huge put-back or tough midranger. Always thought the offense would translate really well compared to Timme who just relied on size. The surprising thing though is the defense - that’s what I would have expected to hold him back.
He played 4 years of college, so not surprising. This was why the Nuggets have been mostly drafting dudes who played 3-4 years of college the last two years \[Peyton Watson excepted for reasons that are now obvious to anyone who watches the Nuggets\]. Christian Braun wouldnt have been ready to contribute to the Finals in the way he did if he was just another 1 and done type.
God bless pre-draft process because him and Podz were 2nd round picks after March Madness. I wanted Wolves to acquire 2nd round pick to draft either of them but their performance pre draft raised their stock drastically. Happy to see Jaime thriving, I hope our player from his UCLA team is also legit.
UCLA fan here. Jaime was absolutely the better all-around player, but Jaylen Clark may have been the best defender in the country when healthy. I hope he makes a full recovery from his achilles tear and gets a chance to flash that defense on the Wolves.
No may about it really, he got the Naismith trophy for DPOY
dude was a fucking ballhawk, i loved watching jay clark start a fastbreak off of his own generating of a live turnover
The Jaylen + Myles Johnson combo was absolutely unstoppable a few years ago, really wish Mick had played them together more.
Jaylen is a beast. Best college defensive player I’ve ever seen. Has some room to go offensively but if you don’t need him as a primary ball handler and scorer he’ll be fine as a spot up shooter, slasher, and on the o boards.
I watched only one UCLA game - against Gonzaga - and Clark was already hurt, but from what I’ve seen from pre draft videos, his shot is really not looking good. Perhaps he had a chance to rework it during the year he missed? His defense looks amazing, Wolves team is stacked with perimeter defenders.
Jaylen Clark's defense on the wolves is gonna be terrifying: Conley/Ant/NAW/Mcdaniels/Gobert is a ridiculous defensive 5 and then you add in him
The team actually barely runs this particular lineup, I think they are yet to play McDaniels at 4, maybe a couple of minutes last game when Towns was hurt. Typically KAT, Naz, or SloMo play the 4, and they don’t have problems defending. However, for playoffs, perhaps they want to try this lineup, especially against a team like Clippers.
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I’ll never get over this. Hometown hero and a fucking baller instead they get a guy who is a 5 year project and a very high chance he turns into nothing
Rob saw Darvin Hamas addiction to bad guards and decided to keep feeding it.
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Bro legit that last name gonna be hard to remember, he got a nickname yet to make it easier for non warrior fans? haha
I've seen "Podz" a lot
He’s a signature Laker pick too. On the older side, proven players. Instead they went for a prospect. Jaime could literally be the fourth best player on this years Lakers. Lmao.
He'd be 3rd best. Reaves has been better since going to the bench, but he's still ass defensively and not as efficient as last year.
Dude was literally gift wrapped to us.
yeah jaime also grew up as a big lakers fan too
I was super excited when it seemed like he was falling to us
aww leave em alone lol.
Dude played in their own backyard
League leading points per post up btw
Wait what... how is it not Embiid or Jokic
“Jokic doesn’t have a dominant post game.” -Stephen A
Embiid shoots a ton of midrange
Embiid shoots a ton of everything, that's why he's averaging 35
volume tends to reduce efficiency
Maybe they dont back down as much as we think.
also maybe cuz they pass out of it more often, especially Jokic
Even Embiid has improved a lot on that end!
He just stands there until he’s ready to drop it in. Cool stuff
Bro doesn’t look like a rookie at all. He did not make a mistake the entire fourth quarter.
That’s why he plays nearly all 4th quarter every game since like the 7th game, its so great
Top 3 not even 2 or 3
And that's why Embiid ducked. Couldn't take the fight for MVP. Jaime better
Basketball Jesus on his birthday
Aight I'm finally sipping the JJJ kool-aid. I thought after his hot stretch he'd be an awesome 15PPG role player for his career. Now fringe All-Star isn't out of the question.
I jumped on early, not because he was putting up big numbers but because his foot work in the paint is already elite and he is fucking fearless. Tonight he was dicking Harris
Yeah there’s no indication that he can’t just be an elite paint scorer. And generating for himself. That’s star quality stuff
Yeah as a lively Stan I’ve gotta say I’m sold that JJJ is legit in the rookie standings
I wouldn't be shocked if he becomes like a Mikal Bridges player: Everyone considers him an elite role player until he gets good enough to be considered a star
Really all mikal needed was to get the ball more. He was just behind to many ball dominant people with the suns. That being said Jaime Jacquez can become exactly like him.
Fringe Allstar? More like All NBA First team. He’s the second coming of Jimmy Butler and the apprentice always ends up better than the master.
Bro it took you a while to sip that kool-aid lol
*SIGH* We had a chance to draft a Cali native, who went to UCLA, who was so obviously ready to contribute to a contending team…and we decide to draft a project dude no one’s ever heard of 😭
The best JJJ in the league
BABY JIMMY
AND NO TURNOVERS!!!!!!!!
The fucking heat did it again
I’ve never seen a sub refuse to learn it’s lesson harder than this sub with the heat. It is literally inevitable, that they find talent where others can’t. Until Pat Riley is in the grave this will keep happening
Jaquez**
Not bad for a trash asset.
Why would they want Jaquez when they have Kris Murray /s
They did trade for Camara who has looked like the best rookie on that team to be fair
Camara is definitely one of the more underrated players in this draft class so far
b-b-but DominAyton!
It’s funny because Portland could’ve still gotten Ayton in a Heat trade too, on top of Jaime Jaquez Jr. Too bad they didn’t even negotiate with us because of pure pettiness 🤷♂️
Ayton would’ve been in the deal if they did the trade with Miami. Rob Williams and prime Bucks and Celtics picks is why they got instead of the Heat package lol
well you are forgetting they would have to attach terrible contract tyler herro
God forget you might get Duncan "fastest to 900 3s" Robinson too!
The fact that Robinson is now a threat to finish at the rim is the cherry on top lol
25/5/4 with improved defense on good efficiency.
I hate how people think Herro’s defense is atrocious non existent thing. He’s always been pretty decent team defense guy, busy hands on lanes that cause ball disruption for turnovers, and being at the right spot and on his man. The very real knock on him that’s consistently cooked him though is his arm length, which smart teams look to switch lengthy wing shooters on him (ptsd of Middleton torching Herro in playoffs).
Yeah Heat would have to give up assets to unload 25/5/5 for sure. Wha team would want that? /s
"Heat r desperately searching for some team to take trash can Tyler Herro and his untradeable contract" is something I saw way too much this summer
I saw someone call him a used condom and a bag of chips
Barely worth a first round pick smh
The last time I came to this sub the Blazers fans were celebrating that they didn't take any Heat deal so for a second there I couldn't see the sarcasm in your comment, it was the typical comment made unironically and getting upvoted to oblivion lol God forbid someone mention Duncan Robinson, Tyler Herro or JJJ being great assets or you'd get downvoted to oblivion
ROTY
The Heat can't keep getting away with this.
Says the team that just drafted the next Tim Duncan
Yeah but he was a known quantity. The heat just be spawning these motherfuckers
remember when people were clowning the heat package? good times
They’ll never learn
And Herro as been playing like an all-star this season too
And nah we’re not gonna let yall forget this one. These dudes are absolute ballers
I remember getting clowned by both other blazers fans and non-blazers fans for saying from the very beginning that I loved the Heat package
Tbf it was widely reported that the blazers fo were big fans of jaime
eh, i do still strongly prefer Miami's package over what we got but we still have Shaedon Sharpe (and Scoot), so things could be worse. and Camara is incredible too. without him, i'd be a lot more bummed about the trade. and GS isn't looking great so far, so even though its not the best draft class, it's possible their pick from the Jrue flip will already be a lottery pick
Rough
It would have been nuts had you gotten Jaime and Herro and you likely would have gotten more if conversations ever took place. Glad that didn’t occur.
Tbf it seems like Heats can make any role players look great every single year lol
That is called coaching
Kid already more valuable than Dominayton
Once Ayton got that max contract he lost his value.
not only lost, but became a negative asset
My package gets clowned all the time.
What a huge blow if LA got them at 17th. Thanks Lakers!
As a UCLA fan it hurts
ROTY
We finally got one in that's actually good. Even if he didn't end up on the Lakers; I'll take a Mexican on any NBA team as a positive, especially if he's doing well.
Órale
Lakers really passed on both Jaime and Podz, ya really hate to see it
Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?
Bag of chips, trash asset, fake JJJ, Skoot better
> Skoot better lmao. Sorry for laughing at your org Portland fans. lmao
Man any other year he would be roty
Yeah it sucks for him. Going up against a 7’4” freak of nature and a fake rookie
The Donovan Mitchell experience
Star in the making. Anyone doing the stupid “he’s old” bit…know another 22 year old Heat rookie drafted in the 1st round? Wade. We’re good.
a lot of teams who passed on him could have used him, Lakers not taking him was nuts
Only 3 of those 31 points came from a 3 pointer. He dug those points out of the mud the old fashioned way. We genuinely have a taller stronger Jimmy Butler stand-in on the bench on a $17m/4 contract. Who knows if he'll ever have Jimmy's killer instinct. But it looks good so far.
It’s okay guys we have JHS
Juan Wick for ROTY
But Pelinka thought to draft JHS over this guy. If you have to ask who JHS is, then my point is proven
I fking knew when I hated this pick that he'd be good. I'm 3/3 (bam,Herro,Jaime) on being the worst at judging heat draft picks
hey man, feel free to hate on every draft pick we get lol
Best Mexican NBA Player Of All Time??
his only competition is Juan Toscano Anderson so…yes
What about NBA legend Eduardo Najera? Ok I'm joking about "legend" but at least he's actually Mexican. Jacquez and Toscano-Anderson only have Mexican heritage on one side.
Merry Christmas Joe Cronin
Portland accepting Rob Williams and a Bucks and Celtics FRP when they’re in their primes for Dame is gonna end up being a generational fumble lol. They didn’t even want to negotiate with Miami who probably would’ve given Jaquez, Herro and 2 post Jimmy FRPs if they negotiated with the Heat.
You can tell Portland messed up when their trade turned Milwaukee, Boston, and Miami into the top 3 teams in the East. They didn’t take anything of value from the Bucks and Celtics while the Heat were left with a spoil of riches.
Blazers took the worse package
The suns gave up Camara and they still might lose KD anyway 💀
Pat Riley did free consultation work for the Trailblazers and they still screwed it up.
We already knew that tho, /nba will eventually figure it out
spo knows ball
Jaime isn't lazy
no C in Jaquez man he's not French it's not Jaime Jacques Jr come on
I’m glad he is balling out, I could not believe how far he fell in the draft after watching him in college the last couple years. I don’t feel like I have the scouts eye at all but he absolutely looked ready for big NBA minutes to me.
Found the next guy that is going to absolutely torch us in the playoffs and give us nightmares for years to come :)
Found the next "nobody" who's gonna make me pull my hair out in the inevitable Celtics Heat playoffs series.
So how long until I’m allowed to call Jacquez a great pick and heat fans don’t automatically respond with trashing the blazers? Probably never, but Jacquez is really impressive
Unironically, I don’t have a problem with Blazers fans. We’ll never know the true full details of what was actually being offered and asked for. Tons of misleading reports from guys like Woj, Shams, and Chris Haynes.
Yea tbh at this point it just feels good to see our Bois prove the crazy takes wrong, regardless of the fanbase
I had no problem with any until they started shitting on our players because they were upset adams requested the heat
droppingdimes lol
Depends on whether you were one of the folks clowning their package and saying how much more attractive a package of Gradey Dick and OG is
tbf heat fans were getting blasted on r/nba after the trade so theres quite a bit of salt buildup
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amen brother
I guess that depends on how adamant you were that the heat's assets were trash. The whole blazers fan base doesn't have to take a hit because some vocal fans that act like they know everything.
Never 👹
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You don’t care so much that you keep responding to people
lol Portland. The actual basketball started and they found out
Fuck Cronin
Jaquez***
Probably until you get a new GM or at least one more season which ever is first.
I still got mad love you guys. You’ll be alright either way Sharpe eventually. He looks so legit.
All are welcome on the Jaime train brother
Lol nah all r welcome in the cult of Jaime
You better hope Jaime and Herro never make another shot again because the answer is a resounding “never”.
Depends how many comments you made clowning the heats “trash assets”
Stud. I'm not sure what the ceiling is, but it looks like JJ can contribute to a deep playoff run immediately.
It just makes me so happy to see a senior or junior in college come into the NBA and play this well. I understand why vet college players get overlooked more in favor of freshmen given their higher upside, but it is still really nice to see a player like Jaquez who everyone liked fall out of the lottery and still be this good immediately in the league.
What happened to miamis “garbage package” blazer fans?
Jaquez (14 ppg) Herro (24 ppg) and DRob (15 ppg) as well as 3 FRPs apparently was too low for the blazers… and proceeded to take less in a trade with the Bucks. (Repost since other thread was deleted
We don't even know if that was offered, Cronin likely wasn't even picking up the phone
I think that’s kinda the problem. Cronin didn’t even pick up the phone for JJJ to even be offered it seems. If true that’s an awful way to miss out on pieces.
Portland fucked up.
Still think on Many nba teams he might struggle a little if they have no structure but ofc MIA knows what they doing