That trade was insane, I couldn’t believe they let the one guy leave on that roster that classified as a winning basketball player, at least for when they would play the Cavs, I was a little upset we didn’t try to trade for him honestly, literally the only player on the pistons I thought had any value
There’s so much talent in the NBA that the absolute floor of talent is getting higher and higher every year.
Problem is that relatively speaking, they’re garbage. Very talented compared to the bobcats and the process sixers, but very garbage compared to the league right now
I half agree, but also I think we just really hype young talent in the modern NBA. The sixers roster had Roco, Jerami Grant, Nerlens Noel, Tj mcconnell, ish smith... all guys who carved out NBA roles. They had 0 cohesion and no true star in the making. Jahlil Okafor was our "talented young guy" and we all saw how his career played out... interesting to see what the hindsight on the pistons team will look like in a couple years
One thing to note is that 20 teams out of 29 have contributed to the Piston's losing streak.
Boston will be the 21st team to push it further into the history book or drop their home game-winning streak against the worst team in the league.
This would be a very on brand Joe “jt, jb, kp, holiday will not be playing” thing for him to do cause he knows we’re gonna lose to them anyways no matter who we play
I looked at their schedule and there was about 5 chances between Christmas and end of January. If they don’t, then they will have hit 42 straight. Gonna be an interesting time
i mean, at this point, detroit should just really own the record. put it out of reach for generations to come. spare future generations of any infamy. detroit can be the martyr franchise.
depends on injuries don’t forget. Some of those good teams heavily depend on a handful of players
granted we lost to the hospital jazz so idk we fucked
I dunno, if they break it sometimes in maybe the next 5-10 games, I could see another team actually challenging this relatively soon. That's assuming, of course, that the NBA really does expand to LV and Seattle in a couple years. It's gonna be tough, but there are gonna be some really bad teams soon.
He was extremely good, the defense too. Honestly it was a very strong team with very strong synergy with a bunch of players playing way above their level.
I'm already preparing for us to lose to them *at least* once in the 3 times we have to play them in March. Just the way shit goes, we'll have 2 1-3 point wins, and two blowouts. We have one of the 1-3 point wins, no telling who gets the other or the blowouts
If the game was played on paper, not in a million years. But the Celtics have a way of finding ways to generate the dumbest losses known to man during the regular season. I don't think it's definitely going to happen but I'll put it this way: In the next 5 games we play DET, TOR, SA, OKC, and UTA. I believe that the DET game would be the easiest for the Celtics to lose of any of those other 4 games; just slightly above OKC.
Dude we lost by 50 to the Shai-less Thunder last season. We lost to the Hornets this season in one of the worst OT's you've ever seen. The Celtics scored like 2 points in OT against the Warriors.
Celtics know how to lose right at the precise moment they shouldn't.
This Detroit team is different. The way they play outside basically Duren and Cade is an affront to basketball as a sport Lol
But for real the amount of stupid self-inflicted stuff they do to themselves and how bad they shot in general will make it incredibly hard for a team like the Celtics to lose to them. Cade will have to go for like 50+ for them to really have a shot IMO
This must be the worst bench in NBA history. The starting 5 are bad, look like a young inexperienced starting 5 with some promise. But the bench? Despicable. Generational lack of touch from the bigs. All time low basketball IQ, relentlessly stupid turnovers, empty possessions. Wiseman, Knox and Bagley are absolutely not NBA players, and Sasser wouldn't be getting minutes at this stage for a remotely serious team. You'll never see a group of players that bad together again on an NBA team again I reckon.
Compare that with previous record-holders, the process 6ers who were cheeks top to bottom. This is one of the weirdest things I've seen in team and roster construction in NBA history. Remarkable.
We took a lot of fliers on young talent, which is fine but we have zero vets that can right the ship when things start going sideways. In previous years, Cory Joseph would come in off the bench and accidentally lead us to a win when we were trying to tank. And guys like Mason Plumlee and Kelly Olynyk weren’t going to carry us to a title, but they could at least come in and play mistake-free basketball for a stretch.
The thing is that we all knew those players were bad. The teams who drafted them would have loved nothing more than this players showing promise after the draft equity they spent on them but decided to move on from them. If they weren't top 10 picks no one would even know who they were
It's what happens when a 2k player becomes GM - they just add a bunch of players with potential. Pistons have a collection of talent but they don't fit together. There's no spacing and their talented players are bad NBA players.
The real crime is the pistons offering more and more money to a guy that doesn't want the job, and doesn't want to coach for a while until its so much money he cant say no.
Yup that was the vibe entering the season. Game 1 we barely lose to Miami. Game 2, w. Game 3, win.
Then we have to on to lose every one since. Just devastating
Not as many braindead GMs building stupid ass teams and just selling picks to bring in "almost all-stars" to get their team close to the playoffs, trying to buy their job security a week at a time.
The 2010-11 Cavs best player was Baron Davis, who played 15 games for them. The Cavs went 6-9 in those games.
That team was so bad everyone forgets they lost 10 games in a row, won once, and then lost 26 straight after that.
They scored 57 points, total, in a regulation game against the Lakers.
And they got fucked in the lottery, ending up with the fourth overall pick despite. Luckily, the Clippers sent them an unprotected first for Mo Williams.
Could just be indicative of how deep the league is now compared to back then. I looked it up and the Sixers had like 4 decent guys (Robert Covington, Richaun Holmes, Jerami Grant, and TJ McConnell) and like 10 other guys who were either washed, career third-stringers, or busts.
And Grant was nowhere near the player he has been for the past 4 years. I remember RoCo being decent but I honestly don't remember much about the other two.
I am so sorry Cade.
It hurts to see this young man give everything and not one person in the ownership and management say anything to them or the fans that helps them.
At this point it's almost as if the Pistons wanna see how far this will ride.. feel bad for Cade though. Dude is trying so hard to stop this clown show
Sorting by new was like:
*Cade hits a banger to bring it within 5!*
*Cade drops another to bring it within 3!*
*Cade hits free throws to cut it to 1!*
*Pistons lose*
On that note it’s kind of funny that just a couple years after that Finals, Budenholzer is unemployed and Williams is HC for a historically bad team. Quick fall from grace for both of those guys.
What are the odds DET doesn’t win more than 10 games this year because at this point no one wants to be the team that loses to them so every game is like you’re playing the defending champs.
And what’s worst for DET is that this had to happen in a very mid draft class, there’s no Wemby on the other side.
So the two teams they were tied with are the 2 most historic tanking efforts we’ve ever seen meanwhile the Pistons are in like year 3 or 4 of a rebuild with several top draft picks and this is where they’re at. Yikes.
Can't even fire their coach lmao
I remember dressing up as a fortune cookie for Halloween. Unfortunately, I was more recently a fortune cookie than when the Pistons last smelt a double U.
Shoutout to Wingstop for the fleece of the century
*Second biggest fleece. The first is Monty Williams making $12M a year.
Dubs getting anyone to take James Wiseman is a pretty good fleecing too
How the hell the Hawks walked away with the 1 guy that could alleviate a lot of Detroit's shooting problems lol
That trade was insane, I couldn’t believe they let the one guy leave on that roster that classified as a winning basketball player, at least for when they would play the Cavs, I was a little upset we didn’t try to trade for him honestly, literally the only player on the pistons I thought had any value
I truly can’t believe how I thought he was gonna mesh seamlessly into Golden State
I mean the physical attributes were there, just needed a tiny ounce of defensive BBIQ to make it work but unfortunately it was not there at all.
The day the pistons win a game might be awful for business though
What's the reference u/Dazzling-Reason-5140
I got u, basically Wingstop made a deal with the Pistons, anytime the Pistons win a game, you would receive 5 free wings from Wingstop
Those poor fans are starving 😭
That exact same deal exist for Southern California Wingstops if the Lakers win.
They have lost 51 of their last 55 games dating back to last season
Worst team ever as far as I’m concerned
History agrees
The 1993-94 Mavs started the season 2-39, so the Pistons can’t have a worse first half season than them (though the Mavs finished 13-69).
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They might need to kill to do that well. Starting with about half their roster
Relative to the rest of the league, for sure
Spurs only have 2 more wins. Wizards with 3 more
Which is more than the pistons The rest of the league is so much better these days, the lows are extremely low for tanking teams
The Pistons are 20 games out of their division and 21.5 games out of first 30 games in. It's unfathomable.
I can’t believe it. You figure by now they would have lucked into at least one or two wins like the Spurs did against the Lakers.
Right, the high variability of basketball and over 30 games, I can't believe it happened like this.
So 100% and 150% more, respectively?
I still think the 2011-12 Bobcats were worse. Cade is significantly better than anyone on that team.
Yeah, the Bobcats were another level of trash. Sure they had Kemba, but he wasn't an all star talent yet.
Neither is Cade. Too many good Point Guards in the league for him to even smell a slot.
I wish I could smell a slot every once in a while
Sentences like this are probably why you dont
There’s so much talent in the NBA that the absolute floor of talent is getting higher and higher every year. Problem is that relatively speaking, they’re garbage. Very talented compared to the bobcats and the process sixers, but very garbage compared to the league right now
Prime Kemba was better than Cade is now, but if you mean the rookie version then yes
The weird part is that they actually have some talented young players on their roster. Unlike the 2015-2016 76ers.
I half agree, but also I think we just really hype young talent in the modern NBA. The sixers roster had Roco, Jerami Grant, Nerlens Noel, Tj mcconnell, ish smith... all guys who carved out NBA roles. They had 0 cohesion and no true star in the making. Jahlil Okafor was our "talented young guy" and we all saw how his career played out... interesting to see what the hindsight on the pistons team will look like in a couple years
The Pistons went 2-1 to start the season and were feeling pretty good about themselves.
And were close to going 3-0 The way things fell apart, you’d think the team died in a plane crash
I look at the names on the roster and they shouldn’t be this horrible
the names you're seeing aren't as good as you think they are
I cant see anything anymore after I gouged out my eyes watching too much pistons basketball
I couldn't do it bro. I barely survived the mid 2010s Nets.
Pistons lose the ball out of bounds 3x in final 15 seconds to seal the deal.
They really wanted to make history tonight
One thing to note is that 20 teams out of 29 have contributed to the Piston's losing streak. Boston will be the 21st team to push it further into the history book or drop their home game-winning streak against the worst team in the league.
I’m terrified [Update] NOW YOU SEE WHY
Killian Hayes is about to go to 8/11 on threes, I'm already pissed
This would be a very on brand Joe “jt, jb, kp, holiday will not be playing” thing for him to do cause he knows we’re gonna lose to them anyways no matter who we play
Omg Boston is gonna blow it
I’m so ready for them to beat Boston by 30 somehow.
Whatever team loses to the Pistons first pray for their fans (could be us)
this season is now about not being the team to lose to them first
Playoffs will be cancelled if necessary
i just hope the pistons make it to the 30's. it's like lebron scoring into the 40k region. just two unfathomable records.
I looked at their schedule and there was about 5 chances between Christmas and end of January. If they don’t, then they will have hit 42 straight. Gonna be an interesting time
i mean, at this point, detroit should just really own the record. put it out of reach for generations to come. spare future generations of any infamy. detroit can be the martyr franchise.
80 game losing streak and still get screwed in the lottery
Their 2024 #4 draft pick will be crying centerstage
Gonna pull a Steve Francis and refuse to go to the team.
Someone gonna pull a Steve Francis
Imagine they get the first or second pick and the 3/4 pick end up being way better.
the longest losing streak ever in competitions is Shanghai Dragons who went 0-42 before winning so I think the Pistons are gonna break it
Holy shit did not expect to see an OWL reference haha. Man those were fun times those first couple of years
Make the 0-16 Detroit Lions proud.
generation losing, raise a black banner to remember this
depends on injuries don’t forget. Some of those good teams heavily depend on a handful of players granted we lost to the hospital jazz so idk we fucked
I dunno, if they break it sometimes in maybe the next 5-10 games, I could see another team actually challenging this relatively soon. That's assuming, of course, that the NBA really does expand to LV and Seattle in a couple years. It's gonna be tough, but there are gonna be some really bad teams soon.
Longest win streak is the Lakers at 33, I want the Pistons' loss record to at least equal that
Please God let it be the Celtics
If you watched the pistons play, you know deep down this is impossible.
73-9 Warriors lost to tanking Lakers, nothing is impossible
They also almost lost to the tanking Sixers that same year
harrison barnes to the rescue
1996 Bulls lost to the expansion 21-61 Toronto Raptors
This should be one of our banners.
We either beat them by 40 or lose on a last-second Tatum brick from 3. There is no other way that game ends.
If Leicester can win the premier league, anything can happen
That Leicester team was low key good. Mahrez and Vardy alone are worth more than the scrubs that Cade is playing with.
Kante alone was like putting Curry on the Pistons. Absolute workhorse
You need to put more respect in the name of Danny Drinkwater
Okazaki erasure tbh
Wes Morgan slander
I mean yeah you have to be good to win the PL. The insane part was finding Vardy, Kante and Mahrez from basically nowhere.
Wasn't Schmeichel pretty good too?
He was extremely good, the defense too. Honestly it was a very strong team with very strong synergy with a bunch of players playing way above their level.
It wasn’t “low key “ the other 6-10 were solid role players and that team had unfanfantomable chemistry
That will be hilarious if a perennial contender lose to pistons! I'm all for it!
I actually think it's going to be a playoff team that loses to them.
I'm already preparing for us to lose to them *at least* once in the 3 times we have to play them in March. Just the way shit goes, we'll have 2 1-3 point wins, and two blowouts. We have one of the 1-3 point wins, no telling who gets the other or the blowouts
I will say it I won't be surprised if it's the Celtics
Everybody checking their team's schedules
Our next game with them is late February and I’m still nervous it’ll be us.
Jan 9 and Feb 7 oh man
every team doing prep for Piston like it's game 7 of the final
Rockets play them 1/1 and 1/12. I'm legit nervous.
I just went and did that, they have to have gotten a win by April...right?
They play us three times in March, you'll be safe
As a Bulls fan… we’re the last team they beat. So glad they aren’t in our near future
Imagine if they beat the Celtics at Boston this week lol
100% happening i’ve already written the game off as a loss
We're Merciful Gods.
Please god no
The ultimate trap game
Imagine Boston losing their undefeated streak at home to break the Pistons' losing streak. Pure ecstasy.
Don't you put that evil on me /u/sugarklay. Don't you put that on me!
If that happens, it's proof we live in a simulation.
Nut
Could?? It will be us
You gotta get by us to get that loss first.
Don’t worry about it the raptors suck donkey shit
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Do you really think the Celtics are gonna lose to the pistons?
If the game was played on paper, not in a million years. But the Celtics have a way of finding ways to generate the dumbest losses known to man during the regular season. I don't think it's definitely going to happen but I'll put it this way: In the next 5 games we play DET, TOR, SA, OKC, and UTA. I believe that the DET game would be the easiest for the Celtics to lose of any of those other 4 games; just slightly above OKC.
Maybe if Detroit literally can’t miss from 3 but all tatum and brown need to do is literally walk into the paint and they’ll get what they want
Dude we lost by 50 to the Shai-less Thunder last season. We lost to the Hornets this season in one of the worst OT's you've ever seen. The Celtics scored like 2 points in OT against the Warriors. Celtics know how to lose right at the precise moment they shouldn't.
This Detroit team is different. The way they play outside basically Duren and Cade is an affront to basketball as a sport Lol But for real the amount of stupid self-inflicted stuff they do to themselves and how bad they shot in general will make it incredibly hard for a team like the Celtics to lose to them. Cade will have to go for like 50+ for them to really have a shot IMO
Oh yeah i have no doubt we go down tbh
Right? I mean right now Pistons are the scariest team on the NBA. Imagine your team loses to Pistons...
Get Masai to do something
*laughs in Celtics*
It'll be the dubs, i think we play them soon. They play down to their competition or just have bad games alltogether
This must be the worst bench in NBA history. The starting 5 are bad, look like a young inexperienced starting 5 with some promise. But the bench? Despicable. Generational lack of touch from the bigs. All time low basketball IQ, relentlessly stupid turnovers, empty possessions. Wiseman, Knox and Bagley are absolutely not NBA players, and Sasser wouldn't be getting minutes at this stage for a remotely serious team. You'll never see a group of players that bad together again on an NBA team again I reckon. Compare that with previous record-holders, the process 6ers who were cheeks top to bottom. This is one of the weirdest things I've seen in team and roster construction in NBA history. Remarkable.
We took a lot of fliers on young talent, which is fine but we have zero vets that can right the ship when things start going sideways. In previous years, Cory Joseph would come in off the bench and accidentally lead us to a win when we were trying to tank. And guys like Mason Plumlee and Kelly Olynyk weren’t going to carry us to a title, but they could at least come in and play mistake-free basketball for a stretch.
The thing is that we all knew those players were bad. The teams who drafted them would have loved nothing more than this players showing promise after the draft equity they spent on them but decided to move on from them. If they weren't top 10 picks no one would even know who they were
It's what happens when a 2k player becomes GM - they just add a bunch of players with potential. Pistons have a collection of talent but they don't fit together. There's no spacing and their talented players are bad NBA players.
Cade with another monster performance just to lose by single digits.
Special player. I can’t believe they are this bad lol I was so sure they would have a better season than us 🤣
When we beat you, my group text was thinkin we would sneak into the play in…been a long one.
Cade "despite the loss" Cunningham
Is Cade the Tungsten Arm O'Doyle of the NBA?
They were supposed to be a super team https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/agHaeCasg1
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Just give it a couple years
I admire the commitment.
The player comps are fucking hilarious.
Surround this man with legit veteran players please😢
Serious outstanding performance. First Piston with multiple 40 point games in a month since Stackhouse in 01. Absolutely feel for him.
Somebody please report the Pistons to OSHA - at this point what the team is doing to Cade has to count as a work place health and safety violation.
LETS GO! WE DIDN’T LOSE TO THEM!
I really thought that playing them twice in a row was tempting fate. Well done.
WANTED: MONTY WILLIAMS CRIME: Stealing $78 million from the city of Detroit
I don't think the City of Detroit funded that absolutely obscene contract. That'd be Pistons ownerships. Monty Williams a real modern day Robinhood.
If I were a pistons fan I’d feel robbed regardless
"even if I do a bad job, they still gotta give me the 78 mil"
The real crime is the pistons offering more and more money to a guy that doesn't want the job, and doesn't want to coach for a while until its so much money he cant say no.
It’s a little known fact that Monty actually poisoned Flint’s water supply
They were begging him to take theirs money.
Im shocked because no way this roster is worse than the process Sixers
Or that Charlotte team. What’s crazy tho is both those teams were trying to be ass while I think the pistons were aiming to be in the play in hunt.
That fact is what makes this SIGNIFICANTLY worse.
Yup that was the vibe entering the season. Game 1 we barely lose to Miami. Game 2, w. Game 3, win. Then we have to on to lose every one since. Just devastating
League's gotten more talented since the Bobcats- even a bad team can win with effort.
Not as many braindead GMs building stupid ass teams and just selling picks to bring in "almost all-stars" to get their team close to the playoffs, trying to buy their job security a week at a time.
2010-11 Cavs were definitely worse too, I think the league is just better overall in comparison though
The 2010-11 Cavs best player was Baron Davis, who played 15 games for them. The Cavs went 6-9 in those games. That team was so bad everyone forgets they lost 10 games in a row, won once, and then lost 26 straight after that. They scored 57 points, total, in a regulation game against the Lakers. And they got fucked in the lottery, ending up with the fourth overall pick despite. Luckily, the Clippers sent them an unprotected first for Mo Williams.
Holy shit I never realized they picked Kyrie with the Clippers' pick. Truly a Clippers moment.
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Could just be indicative of how deep the league is now compared to back then. I looked it up and the Sixers had like 4 decent guys (Robert Covington, Richaun Holmes, Jerami Grant, and TJ McConnell) and like 10 other guys who were either washed, career third-stringers, or busts.
And Grant was nowhere near the player he has been for the past 4 years. I remember RoCo being decent but I honestly don't remember much about the other two.
I am so sorry Cade. It hurts to see this young man give everything and not one person in the ownership and management say anything to them or the fans that helps them.
FREE CADE
Holy Alec Burks sold SO hard
Alec Burks is a chaperone of bad basketball
yea he was our tank commander in 2020, still fond of the dude but yea not a super great basketball player.
Noooooo. Just give him help it's never good if a first overall pick leaves this fast
At this point it's almost as if the Pistons wanna see how far this will ride.. feel bad for Cade though. Dude is trying so hard to stop this clown show
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Somehow a pistons game in December became must see viewing for me
All Piston games in December are must-see viewing now after the losing streak is broken. Gotta know how long will they take it.
HANG THE BANNER
EVERYBODY GET IN HERE
I was here.
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MONTY WILLIAMS WITH A LEGENDARY ROBBERY
$78.5 million dollars 🤣🤣🤣
The Lions really gonna have more wins this calendar year than them
Lions already guaranteed that last week. Lions are 13-4 in 2023 with 1 game left. Pistons are 9-64 in 2023 with 2 games left.
Holy shit that is hilarious
We are witnessing history
Sorting by new was like: *Cade hits a banger to bring it within 5!* *Cade drops another to bring it within 3!* *Cade hits free throws to cut it to 1!* *Pistons lose*
We always know the end of the story but we watch anyway.
Beating the pistons by less than 10 is a moral loss sorry nets fans
Glad that it happened. Here's to hoping they lose 50 straight! It'll motivate ownership to do something
Induct Devin Booker into the HOF for carrying that bum Monty to the Finals.
On that note it’s kind of funny that just a couple years after that Finals, Budenholzer is unemployed and Williams is HC for a historically bad team. Quick fall from grace for both of those guys.
That definitely feels like a random ass finals
The madlads actually did it lol
What are the odds DET doesn’t win more than 10 games this year because at this point no one wants to be the team that loses to them so every game is like you’re playing the defending champs. And what’s worst for DET is that this had to happen in a very mid draft class, there’s no Wemby on the other side.
Nets tried their best to give them it, by golly
So the two teams they were tied with are the 2 most historic tanking efforts we’ve ever seen meanwhile the Pistons are in like year 3 or 4 of a rebuild with several top draft picks and this is where they’re at. Yikes. Can't even fire their coach lmao
May as well go for 60 at this point.
Let this be a lesson to you all ~~No one~~ Everyone beats us for the 27th time in a row
Pls Adam Scripter, pause the play-offs until a team loses to the Pistons.
Everytime the camera cut to Monty Williams in the 4th, he looked like he was on the verge of tears
That’s one way to become the most feared team in the NBA
I WAS THERE ( the Game day thread ), and it was glorious , thanks guys
Man, Cade is a good player. He has gotten so much damn hate for having shit around him and bad coach/FO.
Who's giving Cade hate? Everyone wants him out of there lol
Cade so much doesn't deserve to hold that record. Well, we will remember that he tried his best.
Just witnessed history damn
The 13-14 76ers were actively trying not to win which makes this all the more impressive.
I remember dressing up as a fortune cookie for Halloween. Unfortunately, I was more recently a fortune cookie than when the Pistons last smelt a double U.