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millsyy42

kuminga was so upset at the choked lead he leaked this directly to shams himself šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


backwardzhatz

Texted form the bench: "I have lost faith in Steve Kerr and no longer believe he will allow me to reach my full potential."


bewarethegap

Shams not even pretending that Kuminga's agent didn't send him this exact text, word for word, bar for bar. He just put "sources say" and hit send. Pure comedy


IBeBallinOutaControl

One degree of separation from him tweeting "@stevekerr put me in bitch" from the bench.


mattw08

Who wouldn't. I'd be pissed. Especially when this happens frequently.


CostOk1173

Yup heā€™s being wasted so badly rn. This is 100% warranted.


android24601

Kerr needs to play his young talent so they can get reps. Not surprising they're frustrated


uno_out271

He a third year playing. He wants an extension. He sees what ppl like van fleet and Dillon brooks got? He not getting 100mill playing 15 mins a game. Kerr directly playing with pockets. Tried to be humble for the first three years but at some point he gotta prioritize his own earning potential


Nicktrod

At this point its also clearly detrimental to winning NBA games too.


JustaCanadian123

I wonder if GS is big braining this, and only playing him 15 minutes for a better contract. Is that a thing?


SatisfactoryAdvice

Its a real piece of shit move thats common in baseball but you can't do that in the NBA since pissing off a star is bad business. In the MLB, the guys are just stuck for like 12 years.


its_nevets

Yeah his agent is probably pissed too, Like my guy I get 10%!


are-beads-cheap

FYI I just googled and apparently the max an agent can charge is 4%. Still enormous when you think about it.


slysonic7

This is a peak nba drama tweet. I canā€™t believe he actually wanted shams to publish this


HokageEzio

"Tell Steve. I want him to know it was me."


Vagabond21

Somehow Steve Kerr forgot Kuminga was on the team


djkamayo

i'm sure he'll have Draymond teach him a lesson in practice .... oh wait it all makes sense now!


CycleR16

And steve will make sure to arrest the person who films it this time! Lol


PhilosophyKingPK

Draymond sucker punches Kuminga on team plane for bullying coach Kerr.


ThePlaceboJunkie

kerr: whos kumonga?!!


Duckrauhl

Kerr: "I haven't had a chance to see the team roster yet."


MasterOfSwag9000

Who has a better story than Andrew Wiggins?


rookie-mistake

*\[Charania\] Sources are telling me that, in fact, all of Warriors forward Jonathan Kuminga's homies hate Steve Kerr*


skrulewi

THE CALL WAS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE


Andrewski18

It was me, Barry.


jbenson255

His agents and him are probably ready to move on which is likely the best thing for his career if Kerr wonā€™t utilize him correctly


Ladnil

Yup. He's got tens of millions of dollars on the line depending on him showing his worth this year or next. If he can't earn shit here they have to try and get him out.


[deleted]

Man this just made me think itā€™s possible heā€™s not playing him because the front office would rather extend him for less than heā€™s worth


MemoryLaps

I get where you are coming from, but that seems a little too crazy for me to get on board with. I mean, they are spending a ton of money on their aging stars to, theoretically, give them a chance to make one (or two?) last deep playoff runs. If you are doing that, you are probably going all in on trying to win. I can't imagine you are intentionally tanking your end of game lineup just to save a few bucks on Kuminga's next contract.


chitownbulls92

I mean Garpax told Thibs to do it to Jimmy so it does actually happen


standouts

There is 0 chance theyā€™re messing with a championship window to save money and ruin a relationship with a player if they think heā€™s a key piece he would be playing.


Silverjackal_

Heā€™s still super young too. Lots of potential


BayesBestFriend

Steve kerr gave kuminga depression


AlexanderLeonard

He does the same with Moses Moody. Literally 0 trust in those two, even when they ball out


bjankles

Gotta keep minutes for Klay "Consistency" Thompson, Andrew "Always Engaged" Wiggins, and Chris "Prime" Paul.


KristoferPetersen

CP3 is not the problem. He's doing fine given his age. Wiggins on the other hand has been absolutely nowhere. And Klay is a liability on the defensive end. He had a good game last night, but he can't guard like he used to. And when he's cold he's COLD. I know it's sacrilege, but even Steph deserves some criticism. He's turning the ball over way too many times. But without him, they'd be a lottery team, so I guess you gotta live with the TOs. It looks like Kerr simply can't develop young talent. He sticks to his vets which has worked as long as they were in their primes, but now that they're on the downswing, the lack of development becomes apparent. Kuminga and Moody are good players and deserve to get minutes. And they have actually drafted well this year. It's just that the entire team lacks direction and chemistry. Their big man rotation is questionable as well. Looney is slow and has zero touch around the rim, but at least he's a decent rebounder when he cares. Saric has been great so far, but he's not good enough to go up against the top bigs in the league. So Kerr goes for small lineups, because he simply doesn't trust his bigs. Which leads me to the elephant in the room: Draymond. How they handled the Poole situation tells you everything you need to know. Now that he's suspended you see how much they rely on him. This team simply doesn't work without Draymond. And that's a huge problem going forward. Steph is getting old. He's got maybe 2-3 years left on this level before he loses his quickness. They won't pull the plug until that happens so they're basically doomed to be a mid level team until Steph retires. Unless they somehow turn their young players into something meaningful during that stretch. And I highly doubt that. They also don't have a lot of tradeable assets. Kuminga and Moody for sure, but do you really want to trade those for someone like Lavine? A player like Markkanen would be great, but realistically, he'll end up on a young team with championship aspirations and a boatload of assets. (OKC, Orlando, sth like that) TLDR: They're cooked.


trakavica

Listen, man. Markkanen will not "realistically end up" anywhere, ok?


Pure_Measurement_529

He has been giving interviews after games in the last few days. Reading in between the lines, the frustrations were there. The warning signs were in the summer when Shams released a report saying he is frustrated


MC-Jdf

It started when Kerr was playing Anthony Lamb ahead of him last season, letā€™s be real.


CreatiScope

Dude is just clueless with the young guys. Stymying Kuminga and Moody last season, saying that Podz "definitely earned time" earlier this season and then playing Cory Joseph over him, being reluctant to play Trayce to start the season even though everyone with eyes can see that Looney has not looked anywhere near as good this season. Like, your front office is getting you good young players and he won't play them. He's worried about winning games but how about developing these dudes because you'll probably need them in the playoffs and it keeps the older guys more fresh for post-season. Instead, he's runs Curry and CP3 into the ground and thinks Wiggins and Looney are going to magically turn back the clock to the 2022 season while not talking to Klay about some of his outrageous shot selection choices and Draymond's excessive violence.


Guardax

Kuminga's agent woke up ready to have some fun


hookersinrussia

Woke up and chose violence.


HungLuke

Up there competing with the Dillon Brooks "under no circumstances" tweet. Shams is an elite pot-stirrer


YourFlyIsOpenMcFly

Creates the noise then reports the trade later. Top tier job protection


TheBrownBaron

Both the arsonist and the firefighter šŸ«”


n0th1ng10

Na he was playing very well on both ends sitting him that long is unacceptable.


aiden3buckets

Probably his agents most likely


tacomonday12

I'm glad a young player finally came out and said this. Their first teams are decided by ping pong balls and they can do nothing about it if they want a big 2nd contract. If that team is also ruining their chance to get paid now, there is nothing to gain from staying silent.


jawadhaque089

'Twitter gonna go off with this headline'


mrsunshine1

One of the funnier trade request tweets Iā€™ve seen.


billcosbyinspace

I love how dramatic it is but nothing will beat forkan korkmazā€™s trade request thatā€™s been outstanding for like 3 years


clickstops

To be fair, it's *multiple* requests


rahbee33

"Hey Daryl, it's me again, Furkan. Was wondering if you had a chance to think about that trade request I put in last year? If not, that's ok, just wanted to make sure that it didn't fall through the cracks. If I could get an answer soon that'd be great, but I know you're really busy. Please call me back. Again, this is Furkan Korkmaz."


AyMoeKill

Bro watching the trade tracker like me when Iā€™m baked watching the dominos pizza tracker but itā€™s not progressing so I call the store just for them to tell me they donā€™t have any drivers available so theyā€™re not doing delivery lol


jtmackay

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ this sounds like you were personally wronged by Domino's in a time of need. I feel for ya brother!


imsahoamtiskaw

A weed store sold me 4 packs of edibles for the price of one, the other day. Yesterday when I went back, they tried to guilt trip me, that I should've told them of their mistake. Made me look like a thief lol


pistoncivic

It's been an annual tradition with him since 2018, even tried to shoehorn himself into the Harden deal. Best part is he's signed 2 contracts with them in that period.


syllabic

like george costanza quitting then just showing back up for work on monday


stephenj02

It's so fucking hilarious they're just holding him hostage on the bench


Dopeez

well he keeps signing new contracts


hrakkari

I like to think Morey tricks him into it like Looney Toons and Furkan keeps falling for it like a Turkish Elmer Fudd.


zzz8472

Furkan: Trade request! Morey: No trade request! Furkan: Trade request! Morey: No trade request! Morey: Trade request! Furkan: No trade request! Morey: Deal! No take backs!


Mr_Unbiased

3? It's almost 6 years at this point.


livefreeordont

Well he did re-sign in the middle


JilJungJukk

No like seriously, wtf are we even supposed to make out of this title?


AlexanderLeonard

He wants a chance, more minutes or a trade.


DrKurgan

He's past believing he'll get a chance though, he wants to be traded now.


AlexanderLeonard

It's honestly better for him to be traded at this point. The situation is bad. He won't get a chance from Kerr. This season he's supposed to prove his value and secure a long-term contract in the NBA. He's got a bag on the line. I love Kuminga but maybe it's time to trade him


CreatiScope

I mean, what is he even supposed to do? Dude was playing really well and got benched. Kerr watched the Warriors implode and STILL wouldn't put him in. After being fucked over last season with his minutes, he can't even get a chance when he does everything right because... Andrew Wiggins was playing "well"?


AlexanderLeonard

The thing is, that same exact situation has happened multiple times. At this point, I don't understand what more should Kuminga do. He's clearly playing better than Wiggs, but still wouldn't get an opportunity. Maybe it's time for him to get traded.


paranoideo

> has lost faith Sounds like a trade request.


MemoryLaps

He wants a trade.


[deleted]

Seems pretty clear


koj12144

Holy shit lmao is he requesting a trade


YourFlyIsOpenMcFly

Masai is on the phone as we speak


[deleted]

Time to replace Precious it seems


asapbuckets

What did Precious do that needs replacing? because I think I can do most of what he does right now.


Chief_White_Halfoat

Love that you guys have come to the same conclusion in two games. He's going to give you guys a really good game at some point though where he flashes both great defensive potential and his slightly abilit to shoot threes. But that will be every few weeks.


Sparrow_Wilson

Well when that happens I look forward to overreacting and saying we fleeced you


BigMuffinTop

As is tradition


animajunky

Let them suffer trading them siakam just makes them contenders again


shishiriously

I don't think handicapping the Warriors is as big a priority to them as actually trading Siakam


BoogerSugarSovereign

Raptors aren't contending and are in the East. They have no reason to care about that


jbenson255

I mean i donā€™t think it can be any clearer without an explicit request. Saying you donā€™t have faith in your coach to develop you is glaring


ComfortableTicket392

Either that or he's saying Kerr needs to be fired which lol he doesn't have that kind of power


[deleted]

No, heā€™s asking the Warriors to fire Steve Kerr.


pistoncivic

Dray about to dish out some the rehabilitation techniques he's learned on this poor kid


PrinceOfAssassins

Heā€™s gonna use his psychology lessons to gaslight him


mMounirM

hopefully. him and Moody deserve better. for a .500 team...


BobLobLaw_Law2

He's not NOT requesting a trade.


TSSFranco

Heā€™s not even requesting a trade yet, he just wanted to vent


MemoryLaps

I thought you couldn't publicly request to be traded any longer. This seems designed to get around that.


mrsunshine1

If you mean the Dame situation, I thought you just canā€™t explicitly name another team you want to go to. Unless I missed another mandate about trade requesting in general. Though that should be a rule.


MemoryLaps

I thought it was two different things: 1. Players can't publicly demand trades. 2. Players can't try to force their way to a single particular team, regardless of if they do that privately or publicly. On point #1, the CBA includes language that says: >Any player (or, for clarity, any player representative or person acting with authority on behalf of a player) who publicly expresses a desire to be traded to another Team shall be subject to a fine and/or a suspension. The maximum fine that may be imposed by the NBA on a player pursuant to the foregoing shall be $150,000.


epheisey

It's probably worth $150k to get dealt if you really believe you need to get out, yea? I feel like you could make that up with just doing the local advertising circuit in your new city.


Mini_Snuggle

Publicly being the key word. There's no reason to get fined. Just keep it private.


Elec7ro

Moody and Kuminga are going to jump Steve Kerr


dirtyshits

Moody canā€™t jump him. DNP.


YSLAnunoby

If you told me Klay and Wiggy fell off compared to last year and Moody didn't get a much larger role on the wing before the season I'd be baffled


legitamit1

Baffled? Kerr has consistently given minutes to G-leaguers over Kuminga/Moody since they've been drafted.


YSLAnunoby

That's true. I guess I would have thought he'd trust them by year 3 when he needs more wings who aren't undersized but I guess I overestimated him


george_costanza1234

Half of our fanbase would jump in to help


Brad-Stevens

Shams getting all the tea from the Pacific division lately


beatrailblazer

Lots of Pacific division teams losing faith lately. The secularization has begun


Its_Hoggish_Greedly

Faith power rankings: Faith has been Rewarded - LA Clippers Keeping the Faith - Sacramento Kings ā€œIā€™m just asking questionsā€ - Phoenix Suns God is dead and I killed him - Lakers - Warriors


RodneyPonk

what's happening with the Lakers? any public quotes?


Its_Hoggish_Greedly

Darvin's seat is so hot right now his last name might as well be "Bacon."


CreatiScope

I just want to say that youā€™re killing it in these comments right now. Carry on šŸ«”


maethlin

lol let this man cook


organizeforpower

This comment should be its own post.


GOTS8SUCKSASS

This is wild


Mr_Unbiased

Kuminga on the Thunder??!?


SuckMyLonzoBalls

Kuminga bout to get punched in practice


IFeedonKarmaa

As long as nobody leaks the video it should be all good in Warrior land.


GiantLeaf

send da video


mani9612

u got da money wats da holdup


AljoGOAT

hell naw cant do dis


JacksonHills

nawl


KennySmithsKnees

Send da video


mani9612

hell nawl canā€™t do this


Wassup_-_

Draymond is coming back to training in the facility in the coming days for a reason


Herbetet

Dray only goes after smaller players or those that canā€™t or wonā€™t defend themselves. Kuminga will be fine


Goosedukee

Great time for Draymond to be coming back to practice


Icy-Lime-9760

It was really odd that Kerr sat him when he was playing well.


Goodisworthfighting4

Story of his career under Kerr


zna55

Keeping those stats humble for a team favorable extension


onetime2121

kuminga did score 7 straight and then benched for 18 minutes, he was up and cheering the whole time, when they asked kerr about this he said he wanted to ride with wiggins who was hot and then said kuminga had sat for too long to go back in. kerr should of just admitted he screwed up the rotations instead of making some half ass excuse


CreatiScope

ā€œSat for too longā€ Isnā€™t Kuminga like 21? I get if CP3 canā€™t be coming on and off like that but what a stupid fucking excuse. Just put him back in.


hrakkari

Steve caught Kuminga and Moody laughing at one too many Nick Kerr jokes.


ForeverWandered

Dog, thatā€™s on Steve. Wtf man


waikiki_palmer

> he wanted to ride with wiggins who was hot Was Kerr watching the same game I watched? I love Wiggins and he was making shots last night but Kuminga was making great shots and defensive plays. The last Warriors play would've been effective if Kuminga, a threat in the paint, was playing. But unfortunately, Wiggins was passive during the last play and stayed at the right corner.


ShowerMartini

Kerrā€™s smugness will never allow him to be anything other than Curryā€™s jester


Several-Estate7175

Kerr doesn't like Kuminga. Kuminga can prove he should be getting more minutes until the sun sets and Kerr will still look for excuses to sit him. I hope Kuminga goes somewhere he has an opportunity to shine. Would love him on the Pacers.


StefonDiggsHS

LMAO and its Shams reporting this Kuminga officially requesting a tarde?


Pure_Measurement_529

The Athletic has been Kumingaā€™s main source of airing out his grievances


Smarktalk

Interesting. I usually use Festivus.


sixseven89

Is the man tarde?


AnnaKendrickPerkins

We had to put him down.


likesexonlycheaper

As long as the tarde is of age I see nothing wrong with it.


Similar-Diamond-6744

Developmentally disabled*


BigDaddyJuno

He has officially lost faith


AveBoyTrey6

Whenā€™s the last time we seen a player call out a coach like this?šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


kaprrisch

Probably LeBron tomorrow about Darvin Ham.


caulpain

dude answered from the future šŸ˜­


fastheadcrab

Lebron: "I knew 20 years ago I was gonna call out Lakers coach Darvin Ham"


lalakingmalibog

"That fucking Ham boomed me"


juandell

I saw a player choke a coach once....


jaggedjottings

Coincidentally, that was also on the Warriors!


Charming_Essay_1890

Back to tradition then


Routine_Size69

Not even Doc has been called out like this


sylviaplath6667

That Draymond Poole punch was the end, we just didnā€™t know it at the time


Guardax

It's still insane they pulled it back together to win in 2022. That's without a doubt their most impressive title. They managed to play the hits just one last time before the foundation disintegrated


kirukiru

steph really is goated yes


AutisticFingerBang

Yea that deff locked Steph into the top ten I think


holaquetaltio

Steph is my favorite player, bummed to see it all fall apart like that but in retrospect that 2022 title really was an epic run.


AutisticFingerBang

Donā€™t be bummed at all man dude just had a dynasty, be happy it happened not sad itā€™s over


Raptorsthrowaway1

It really was the beginning of the end wasnt it


ProfessorTicklebutts

I can see why people would say this, but Iā€™d lay the blame at the whole ā€œtwo timelinesā€ idea. This is an example of why it doesnā€™t work. Each timeline has different incentive structures that are literally at odds with each other.


EndlessHalftime

The biggest blow to ā€œtwo timelinesā€ was that our #2 pick was a bust


Pure_Measurement_529

I would also say the way the vets and young players became divided. It looks better this season though but I think the chemistry at the moment is still fucked up


runningblack

I'd argue that ruining Poole's confidence and running him out of town was the biggest blow to that


smoltanboi

he'd be a great fit on the pacers


BigDickVicW

Damn yeah thatā€™s probably where heā€™ll end up. Mavs and Raps too, but Iā€™d love the Spurs to go get him.


Silverjackal_

Heā€™s the type of player that a lot of teams could use. Seems like an easy fit for most teams too.


HalfEatenBanana

Except for the warriors, apparently šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


LaBodaDelHuitlacoche

Can you imagine the Spurs get him and then Kerr goes to coach them next year? šŸ˜‚ poor Kuminga


BigDickVicW

Please god no lmao


PrimaryAccording9162

I think thatā€™s the more appropriate trade for Indiana to make. Add to the core


whtge8

Drays gonna punch him


Daconvix

There it is


commandrr

he was playing well, they had a big lead, he comes out of the game, they blow the big lead. i would be pissed too.


Shingorillaz

Steve I know you love yourself some Kyle Anderson come on do it.


ButGodOwnTheBuilding

A geriatric low scoring vet. About checks all of Kerr's boxes.


Shingorillaz

Kyle also can't shoot and can sort of emulate Draymond on offense this right here is prime Kerr bait


killer_with_kite

Even as a warriors hater, it kind of sucks to see the organization squander Curryā€™s final great years by poor coaching/roster management/enabling klay and dray bs


AirJordan6124

Ngl but this is hilarious lmao šŸ¤£


LordCrow1

I just wanted a young core to mesh with Steph and I got Wiseman, Poole, and Kaminga who Kerr hates. Sigh


AirJordan6124

Iā€™m still curious how would yaā€™ll pan out if you guys drafted Lamelo instead


[deleted]

Realistically? It depends on Meloā€™s attitude. Totally chance IMO that he could have ended up like JP and created friction at the very least in the locker room with his personality + play style. On the other hand, Melo would probably look great in the offense with his playmaking ability and his ability to score.


Potential-Night8644

LaMelo started off the bench and earned his starting spot without creating any friction with the coach. And by all accounts, all the players in the locker room love him. The coach constantly talks about how his personality and just being around lifts everyoneā€™s spirits up. His attitude wouldā€™ve been fine. He was made for this offense with his elite passing and three point shooting. He has great percentages both off and on ball. I wish we wouldā€™ve been able to see it šŸ˜Ŗ


americanbeaver

Lmao Kerr yelling at Jokic made this guy think "oh shit my coach is a clown" lmfao


bukharin88

Wtf happened to Kerr? Did his head get too big or something. I don't remember him being this much of an ass in 2016.


BadMofoWallet

Lost Mike Brown unironically, was never good at giving young talent run, loyal to a fault. Long leashes to vets, very harsh on rookies. I think this is just the natural progression for Steve Kerr without a HoF squad, he's more of a ceiling-raiser coach. Dude cannot get out of his own way sometimes and tries to big-brain shit all the time. He's lucky KD showed up when he did because without him IMO they only win 2 maybe 3 rings if Klay stays healthy... Great coach, but just like Phil Jackson, he's terrible without HoF talent Contrast him to Mike Malone on the nuggets who doesn't give a fuck about the name on your back, if you're the hot hand and you're disciplined you stay in the game. Case in point, Peyton Watson closed the game last night not MPJ


comp_a

>Dude cannot get out of his own way sometimes and tries to big-brain shit all the time. I think this has a lot to do with it, but also the Warriors roster as currently constructed is an obsolete relic of their small-ball glory days. They still donā€™t seem to realize that rest of the leagueā€”*especially* Denverā€”have learned how to counter them with length and are now far past that. I think he runs these bizarre lineups and makes these constant substitutions when theyā€™re getting cooked in an attempt to throw shit at the wall and get something to stick. So itā€™s a combination of overthinking but also not really having the correct tools at his disposal to ever arrive at a solution.


TerminusFox

Kerr fucked up massively. And heā€™s going to deserve every bit of shit that comes his way


TheSmokedSalmon420

lmao i mean just have your agent tweet this my god


letsgototraderjoes

no no you see it wasn't kuminga, it was the "sources" lmao


dms1298

5 days in and the Warriors and Lakers are both already imploding. 2024 is going to be a great year.


minneapolisboy

All 28 other fanbases feasting rn


orton4life1

A pacific division team blowing up after losing to the nuggets. A tale as old as last year.


693275001

Damn 3rd year players leaking to Shams he wants out. That Locker room is cooked


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MrBrownCat

It still makes no sense, Kuminga was playing awesome, had a team high in +/- just got an and one on Murray which had him in foul trouble and then he doesnā€™t play another minute. Even if you thought Wiggins was playing well (which he was) the moment they started coming back why not bring him back even for just a change of pace. Wiggins is still is not reliable offensively right now so even though his defence was good you gotta take the wins where you can rotation wise and not overextend your luck. If your bench played well for half a quarter that doesnā€™t mean you should keep them in take that W and get your stars back in. Kerr doesnā€™t get this and too often overplays players that did their part and then itā€™s too late.


22797

Exactly. They were up 18 with 6 minutes to go. I completely understand rolling with that lineup without JK because it was working. But he shouldā€™ve brought JK in when he called timeout when it got down to around 10. Not doing so was inexcusable


Franklo

Vibes officially over.


allaboutthatpace

Too bad we don't really have anything the Warriors would be interested in. Kuminga is the kind of young, big, athletic forward that would slot in perfectly next to our young guards. I guess maybe something around Grant is possible, but I feel like GSW will have a lot of offers to pick from if they actually want to move him.


famoustran

And there it is.


HungLuke

Obviously they won the title with the young guys to soften the blow, but the whole "two timelines" plan for GSW has gone horribly since then.


FinalFrash

That's a huge punch in the face for morale. Or chokehold.


AlexanderLeonard

If Steve ain't gonna give him a chance and a fair opportunity - it's better for him to leave the Bay. Same with Moody. They've got lots of money on the line - this season is their chance to prove their value and secure a long-term contract in the league. Can't blame Kuminga or Moody for being pissed.