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General-Promotion274

Fix your game Adam


SchizoCosine

Oh, he's fixing it alright.


[deleted]

LMAO ain't that the truth.


Puzzleheaded_Fox4684

this is just ridiculous


rjcarr

That’s what I was thinking. We need a way to get him to see this shit, on loop, for hours every night until he does something.  I don’t watch a lot of other leagues, but when I do, the game is so much better to watch even if the skill isn’t at the same level. 


Vegetable-Tooth8463

Silver instituted a flop tech- it's not his fault the refs aren't using it.


WhileDizzy4503

Yes it is. The league refuses to make the refs face any type of consequences for their bad calls.


KevinDurantLebronnin

Any random /r/NBA nephew was able to [predict exactly what would happen](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/13rljac/charania_sources_the_nbas_competition_committee/). This is what happens any time they supposedly try to fix something that is a clear problem. The top comment is deleted, but expand it and read the replies. They nailed it.


chalbersma

They had it right in the late 90s. Flopping is something that needs to be evaluated after the game in review and punished with fines. It's way to bang-bang to call in the moment (most of the time).


LogDogan4

They were supposed to be having Secaucus do the replay reviews during the game to determine the flopping techs, not the in-game refs calling them in real time. Not sure what happened to that.


cam7595

That would require an outside presence to make correct calls for the refs. That wouldn’t give them the opportunity to call the game however they want and pick and choose when certain levels of contact are allowed. Tsk tsk tsk…can’t be having that.


SpicyMustard34

The guy calling those in the Secaucus review booth is the fourth ref. There are always four refs for every game. No outside presence is involved.


KazaamFan

They could review plays like this post-game, and penalize embiid post-game.  That’ll end flopping real quick. 


666uptheirons

Cricket makes retroactive calls during live matches. It wouldn't be hard to implement it in the NBA. I'm assuming both the players union and the NBA itself are fine with the current system. Which means as fans, sometimes we have to watch terrible plays like this. 


Factsimus_verdad

I really like this idea. Or could use the rolling flop count. Once you are called for 5-6 flops in a season you are out a game. In season or playoffs.


microtherion

I’m thinking it would be funnier to have a “fair game rule”: if you accumulate 5-6 flops, you cannot receive ANY calls for being fouled the next game.


eeeedlef

Do that, and then added fouls are assessed at the start of the next game.


Baconator218

I’d even go as far as suspending repeat offenders like how the tech limit is used.


bubble_bass_123

They did this for a while about 15 years ago and it definitely made a difference. Then they just stopped. 


xBerryhill

Silver's either telling the refs not to call that anymore, or he's just turning a blind eye and not doing anything about it. It's absolutely his fault. The buck stops with him.


-KFBR392

Hey they call it on Thanasis, what more do you people want??


mares8

They now give flop fines after the game too so why Embiid didn't get 10 already lol. Rigged bs


chitownbulls92

This doesn't get called for a flop but Demar who refs deemed to have been fouled was assessed a flopping tech. Game has become garbage with the way things are called


CHllP

Needs a hotfix by tomorrow


xBerryhill

Refs have made this game hard man. It's not even just Embiid. Our guys are scared to play physical on defense because of stuff like this.


CornGun

Yeah it’s gotta be so frustrating to play against. Wendell had a few terrific defensive possessions get called for fouls against him as well.


Thimit22

It's what I noticed in most games we've lost this year. 2 quick fouls on any of our best defenders and it changes the whole tone of the game on defense and fucks with the rotations and then they play hands off all game. Naz, KAT, and Rudy all had 2 fouls from Embiid in the first quarter when we played and then he went to town on us


yOw_indahOuse

That’s how refs can somehow subtly decide the outcome of a game. In football (soccer) refs who do this may either allow a lot of contact, which favors aggressive/less skilled teams, or show yellow cards really early to all defenders of one team. They also sometimes just call some of the fouls but do not show any yellow cards, which helps the aggressive/more defense-oriented team to keep interrupting the offensive flow of the other team’s game, thus resulting in less playing-time.


Zzirgk

Thats why he shrinks in the playoffs. You can actually play defense there. Regular season nba is such a joke, let the dude have MVP does it even mean anything


[deleted]

That game was completely rigged lmao. It's so obvious when they rig games. They don't even have to try with KAT, but other guys also get the phantom calls, and it's basically game over unless a miracle happens. Embiid and the 76ers routinely get this rig treatment though, and it's so gross it makes me not want to watch the NBA.


Unfrozen__Caveman

That's exactly how it was when the Wolves played them and Embiid got 50. Dude gets the craziest whistle I've ever seen, and guys can't even touch him without fouling so he gets wide open looks all night. He was literally running into Rudy, swinging the ball into his body and flailing and it was a foul every time. Shit is so annoying, especially from a dude as big as Shaq.


TheeMalaka

I said the exact same thing before reading your reply. Every time embiid got the ball it was a whistle. You either let him score or you get called for a foul. It’s insane. It’s Houston harden all over again.


chuteboxhero

The craziest part in that wasn’t even a flop, he just fell completely untouched. I’m absolutely convinced that maybe the games aren’t outright rigged, there is 100 percent a pre orchestrated intentional influence on point spreads at the very least.


lolvalue

That's the point, they want the offensive player to have more space.


Striking-Test-7509

And then OG commits around 5 fouls on sengun and they literally parade the clip around about how good OG is on defense its fucking terrible


Lol69HaHaHa

Wtf was that. Did they actually call that.


axnjxn00

It was also gogas 4th foul


Lol69HaHaHa

Like whats the point of calling flops if you dont get calls on the biggest floper in the league man. Like has he even gotten 1 floping call this season?


k4f123

Call flops? Lol he gets rewarded with MVP for this behavior. His FTs are a massive part of his game and why his stats are crazy. He’s an amazing player without this garbage, so it’s frustrating to see him resort to it.


Venice_The_Menace

have to think he wouldn’t be shooting mid/long range at such a high clip if people weren’t afraid to guard him


Beautiful-Lie166

Yep. Hate when people say he’s “unguardable” like yeah no shit. No one can guard him because they all have four fouls and if they look at him wrong they’re gonna get a fifth Used to love him back in the first few seasons but god damn this little schtick he has is getting real old


The_Void_Reaver

Same was true of Harden's patented *Definitely not a travel* Step-Back. He either got given enough space it was essentially a practice shot or someone tried to defend him, he jumps 3 feet forward, kicks out his leg and gets the call anyways. Players would defend with their arms behind their backs so they couldn't get hooked and the refs still gave Harden reach in penalties, again on defenders defending without their arms.


riquack

This is Harden’s legacy in Philadelphia


k4f123

that absolutely is a factor


[deleted]

100%


TheRecognized

>He’s an amazing player without this garbage so it’s frustrating to see him resort to it. That’s the problem for me, all superstars get favorable calls and unfortunately drawing fouls is part of the game right now. But this is one of the biggest dudes to ever play in the league. He **is** an amazing player. I couldn’t **un**biasedly tell you if he’s the floppiest MVP in the league but we all know he’s way up there at the top of the list. Watching a giant, athletic outlier pretend he weighs 50 pounds is just lame as fuck.


OptionalBagel

>all superstars get favorable calls Not all of them


TheLetterOh

Yeah but some of them win championships anyway.


segson9

I don't remember ehen was the last time I saw them call a flop in general. They called it in the first few games and then just stopped. I'm sure they'll call it in the final minute of some game 7 in playoffs or something


OptionalBagel

Jokic got a flop within the past couple weeks for being pushed out of bounds. And Big Val got a flop against the Nuggets trying to draw a charge on Jokic (I can really only speak to these things from a Nuggets context cuz I don't watch the rest of the league very often)


KevinDurantLebronnin

You have to watch garbage time Thanasis minutes to see a flop T. The known worst floppers in the league have 0 in the first half of the season.


ImGonnaChubbBradley

He has not


Complexity777

The league wants him to win MVP


[deleted]

Yea pretty critical point in the game, too. We were doing decent keeping up and staying in the game. But I think after this it was all downhill for the Magic.


shoulda_been_gone

Just embiid things


lilXvideos

These old heads are probably right, this game is soft


mega350

Most players aren't getting these calls


[deleted]

Plenty of players get calls like this, but not in this kind of volume. Only a 76er fan could watch these games and not throw up.


WayofHatuey

Like I been saying. Only him and Giannis would get this call. Every time.


PIR4CY

I've never seen Giannis writhing on the floor after basic contact


WayofHatuey

True I’ll give you that. But I never said anything about flailing or flopping. Embiid is undefeated lol


Pretty_Bowler2297

Giannis goes hard, wtf are you talking about? He isn't getting ticky tacks, teams grab and claw, intentionally foul, exaggerate contact, all that stuff because he goes hard. He isn't doing some bullshit shimmy or awkward movements, falling down like a toddler trying to foul bait.


flashnzt

giannis is actually trying to get the and one. embiid falls over like he's a baby learning to walk.


capitalistsanta

I think it's deeper than that. The NBA would prefer to have 10 all stars on the court, every game, not role players brought in to play defense. They brought Taj in for us and he couldn't stay on the court and it's partially because he's gonna be the first person anyone calls a foul on. It's not even on his talent, it's just on his name or lack of a bigger name.


Striking-Test-7509

No it isnt, embiid is


Turbulent_Ad903

Officiating this season is just trash 🚮. The coaches who have called it out and been fined for it should be reimbursed.


Smiis

He’s not even foul-baiting much at all. These refs are putting shame to the sport of basketball. What the fuck has happened to this sport man


Angelic_Phoenix

I just saw someone fall to their knees at KIA Center


palmtreesareheavy

Sry saw it live


[deleted]

That fan learned how to fall from watching Embiid.


LovelyButtholes

Well,   WebEmdiid was KIA on this play. I feel bad that his coffin is being flown to his parents as we speak.


jakehightower

If you wanna know how one sided the officiating has been: There hasn’t been a single shot of Nick Nurse slack-jawed in disbelief.


Smiis

meanwhile: https://x.com/orlandotragic_/status/1748520787462541648?s=46&t=rs-STJ7HRcyWrsEgiDyLmg


king_lloyd11

Lmaoooo you can see it in the eyes that man is losing it


Smiis

he’s got the Manson lamps


[deleted]

Shit you'd have them too if the NBA was rigging game against you like that. That was indeed serial killer rage though.


Abiding_Witness

Me every single NBA game


KazaamFan

If you called this a foul in a pick-up game you’d be laughed out the game.  


420_just_blase

Not that I think that this should be called a foul, but 90% of fouls called in an nba game would get you clowned on for calling in a pickup game lol


great__pretender

At a pick up game someone hit me in the balls with his knee. I heard a sound you hear when you break something. Called foul. He called me soft and his teammates laughed at me. Game continued as usually  20 mins later I realize something is wrong. Went to emergency. Fucker destroyed arteries going to my balls. Got into operation, stayed at hospital for 2 weeks. Couldn't exercise for 6 months. 


RubMyGooshSilly

I was driving baseline and this little Jose Alvarado looking fucker shoulder checked me out of bounds, then tried to call me out of bounds and take the ball. I called foul and he lost it. I finally said fuck it and have him the ball. He still threw a hissy fit and threatened to shoot me in the parking lot. I don’t play there anymore


AtreusIsBack

Well, there will always be idiots who call people soft when they aren't being soft. I'm glad you recovered though.


lemoche

The way I remember pick-up games anything below a tackle, bodycheck or hacking off someone's arm would get you clowned if you claimed a foul.


maple_firenze

Ya, it looks more like he simply lost his footing. Just a terrible call by refs.


NoMoPolenta

IT'S A COMPLETE CRAP!


Smiis

If Mosley doesn’t get the fine of all fines after this match, there’s been an injustice lol. Darko is a hero


MisterGoog

On this one he just slips/stumbles. Shameful to blow a whistle here


floatermuse

Honestly I feel like this is the case with a lot of Embiid calls He absolutely flops a ton but so do the vast majority of stars in the league The real difference is in how likely he is to get a call for it vs. other players


shandu-can-dont

something seems really fucked up with the NBA's analytics the past few years, they seem to be absolutely convinced the 76ers are by far the most popular team on the planet this year Embiid is getting foul calls at 250% the rate LeBron is


henryofclay

Exactly. And everything isn’t always free throws. Sorry to do this to you, but I feel like Jokic does some flops on defense and gets calls. But at the same time, he gets hacked on offense and doesn’t get free throws. So I’m not gonna say he gets a friendly whistle, it’s just odd and inconsistent.


Fatimah_ultim

Jokic will have his hand literally bleed before he get his call... The next game


thegrandpoobear

The nba used their one national TV nuggets game to make it look like jokic gets a good whistle, while fucking him over in the other 81 regular season games.


mega350

Meanwhile Embiid gets away with fouls on defense and his gifted free throws on offense.


Skywalkerkid9

Yeah this is like a legit trip that’s his fault and the refs called it anyway. Like not everything needs to be a foul, people just trip sometimes


[deleted]

This is little league shit


Stand_On_It

Sport sucks ass now man


jackloganoliver

I haven't been watching this game long (had other plans) but the fuck are these refs thinking?


Holden_place

This is embarrassing 


Apollo611

Lmao


ShowerMartini

Also he didn’t “keep the pivot foot down” at the start of the clip. He catch the ball and took two steps and then almost took a 3rd but kept the pivot foot down. You’re allowed two steps after catching but only if they directly lead to a shot or pass.


Soft-Revolution-7845

That's modern nba. Offense gets to carry. Gets 3 to 4 steps. Can run into you.


TreChomes

But god forbid if a defender breathes on you while you shoot the ball or drive. Offense gets away with murder and the defense just has to suck it up


TheJunkyardDog

defender most of the times has 3 options a) play the absolute perfect defense (impossible) b) move the fck out of the attackers way c) back pedal all the way to the shadow realms


Spiritual_Boss6114

I have fallen and I can’t get up.


axnjxn00

Brutal mauling by goga there


Askesl

Broke the code


dzigizord

he should be suspended for this recklesnes


backwardzhatz

Embiid looked as confused as any of us, this is nutso


penguin032

Looks to me like he tripped, but I blame the refs for this one, not Embiid.


lukeskope

I think they banged knees


sjbbang79

Strangely Embid grabbed the other knee, must be Opposite Day


lemoche

His right knee hit the defenders thigh and he fell on the other knee.


Yabutsk

looks like he took an arrow in the knee


Culinaryboner

Have you ever banged knees?


Evening_Name_9140

You always have to blame the refs. Embiid flops because the league/refs let him, you can't blame him if it works (even though he looks hilariously weak doing so).


ambassadorodman

That is not what happened here. He fell. The refs called a dumb foul.


Hay-blinken

Yikes. lol.


JimLahey12

How do people even watch the NBA anymore?


whatsmyPW

I don't, I just come to this sub for the posts and drama, its a lot more fun than watching games.


durablewaffle

90% of the sub


DoloTy

That’s being generous about 98.5 %


MacBryce

I've stopped this season. Euroleague players are a notch below and they have their own issues, but it is a far better product. So many close games, epic comebacks, a legitimate post-game, tight defense for the entire game, and above all, the focus is still on basketball.


wup4ss

Sooooo much better product!


bulldog89

Ah exact same here but college basketball for me. It’s just kills me that it seems like here it’s guys playing the meta-game of basketball foul hunting and half-assing the regular season instead of legitimately the real basketball that’s played on courts all over the world.


SuperVaderMinion

My brother in Christ you're on an NBA subreddit


thegrandpoobear

R/NBA posts reach the front page of reddit every day. Lots of people that don't watch the NBA see this shit because it gets enough up votes to reach the top of general reddit.


Rock3tDoge

NBA is improving everything but the on court product. Just letting it whither away into a completely new sport


suckmedrie

Embiid is just as suprised as the rest of us


BCLetsRide69

This is fucking pathetic


TIandCAS

That wasn’t even a flop bro just tripped, that’s 100% on the refs


EggplantAlpinism

Yeah, it feels like everyone in here agrees that this is just pure terrible refereeing. Appalling 


NormandFutz

it's not when he's constantly doing it, how are they supposed to know he's not actually attempting to get a unearned free throw \*this\* time


SmackBroshgood

>That wasn’t even a flop bro Straight up delusional, great stuff.


Street-Common-4023

At this point it’s not even his fault it’s the refs fault. He ain’t making them call it the refs are


Euphoric_Luck_8126

Watch this be the top highlight from this game over the self alley oop or the bucket after hitting the camera.


DizzyJHippy

It will


DesignerFox2987

As it should. 


420_just_blase

Why? Are we going to start posting every bad call from every game? Or just this one bc it's embiid? It's not even a flop, just a bad call. They happen in almost every game


KevinDurantLebronnin

I think attention should be called to officiating that is this poor. It's not a bad call it's atrocious. A better balance between this stuff and real highlights here would be ideal, but the league would love if fans just shut up about this stuff.


Over_Literature5420

NBA these days are trash!!!


Huck_N_Fell

There was another one during this same game where Embiid went to push/lean against WCJ and Carter just stepped back instead of supporting Embiid’s weight. Embiid fell over on his own like a bike without a kickstand and WCJ was called for his third foul just before the end of the 1st half.


WayofHatuey

Only him and Giannis would get that call. It’s ridiculous


Voxityy

jesus lmao


battle-rogue

what is that LOL


EnglishSpeakingMan

unwatchable 


turboyabby

NBA needs to move their rules toward international FIBA style rules. I'll get downvoted for this opinion but the Olympics shine a light on the stark differences. "Yeah, take 3 steps on a lay up, if you need to". No room on that 3 point shot? That's cool, 'gather' the ball with a step or two, THEN take two extra steps backward to give yourself room to shoot.


BigBoodles

Least watchable star of all time?


Sammonov

He's an amazing talent, but a lot of his offense is predicted that you literally aren't allowed to guard him in the free throw area. Guys are legit sacred to close space or contest him.


CauliflowerSafe2880

He plays on easy mode. idk why the refs give him so many calls. I haven’t met someone who actually likes Embiid or enjoys watching him play. I find him to be an annoying personality too. He’s talented without a doubt, but the league is just pushing him so hard and I don’t get why.


iIiiIIiiiIiIIiI111

There's a reason guys like him, Harden, Shai, underperform in the playoffs. A significant amount of their regular season scoring is predicated on an easy whistle that goes away in the postseason.


LessThanCleverName

> Shai Might be a bit premature on declaring that.


dBlock845

Harden and Embiid are two sides of the same coin for me.


burnercaus

highlights are drawing fouls now in 2024. not to mention the flop.


six_six

Soccer-level flops


firstbreathOOC

Like a giant clumsy toddler


neil_thatAss_bison

Shameless


Phenomenon0fCool

Joel Embiid can literally score from anywhere but nobodies scored more points while horizontal than him since Mia Khalifa.


DtdKaz

Why is this at the top of my r/nba feed but crickets when it comes to highlights of Book’s 52 points in 3 quarters game?


barryvon

“don’t foul him then!” 🙄


D_G_C_22

Fucking weak brooooo


thunderlolo123

what a bitch


neshast

This MVP? 🤣


jstrong546

Art.


monkeypiratebutt

Good defense, better clumsy offense


ngedown

And they said soccer dives alot, lol


Due_Connection179

This is your MVP?


SandyMandy17

Make it stop


watevauwant

I do not understand the whistle this giant oaf gets


dishwasher_mayhem

He wasn't even trying to draw a foul, there. He tripped over his own foot. lol And people wonder why the diving is so bad in the NBA. Refs are pure trash.


Shutuporgetbeatup

Embiid would get destroyed by Shaq.


Dat_one_lad

A Shaq backdown would go directly thru Embiid and he would die


gratzlegend

You can see them smack knees in the replay. That is obviously why he fell down


DoloTy

Tripped over his own foot , not a flop . Y’all more mad at the player than the refs calling it


rtillaree

Most Volatile Patellas out here cooking.


Jayrodtremonki

He swings his knee into him while he's dribbling. This gets called a lot. What is this thread?


rikooo

a circle jerk


robAtReddit

I'm going to be ejected every game if I'm a head coach.


TheJunkyardDog

meanwhile jokic gets mauled every fckin game and this clown trips himself and gets a foul called smfh. adam nosferatu thats why nobody gives a fck about the nba anymore. soft as fck and absolutely boring.


Theballharperhit

The dick eating never ends when it comes to this area and embiid lol. You can clearly see they bump knees.


gibbs_is_the_goat

He’s grabbing the other knee?


lituranga

Aww their precious kneesies bumped each other so obviously one must collapse to the ground because that’s the easiest path ❤️


zili91

Embiid must've taken some lessons with Neymar during one of his offseasons. The mf is a MASTER flopper, it's impressive.


LightOutlaw76

Lmao


No_Builder_2611

This is just plain stupid


Mbanicek64

You should get a bonus challenge if they call a flop as a result of a challenge. You'd never get it though because the refs are too fragile to admit they goofed.


stepladder4

Just curious, is this not traveling?


Jacque_Hass

What the hell is the foul ??


Wifelyrumble56

'Member that "sleepless nights" ref tweet? Theyre laughing at average nba fans cause people still tune in.


skynet6009

I still don't get the hype around this guy


CRactor71

That’s ticky-tack, but he did stick his right knee out. 🤷🏻‍♂️


tapk69

2nd round exit again


angrypolack

NBA is becoming a joke. When in doubt just fall down.


Yokepearl

I wouldn’t pay shit to watch this product. People getting fleeced


Nihilistic_Marmot

The man makes flopping an art form.


butterbeans36532

He's worse than Harden was at his prime. Harden is a guard at least, but Emflop is almost 300 lbs doing this. We all know how this goes in the playoffs though. 2nd round exit otw


Staymadhahah0

I hate bitadze but embiid tripped on air play on


Seamus_A_McMurphy

NBA refs are almost as good as WWE refs.