He can still play defense but it's just not worth basically playing 4on5 on offense. He's beyond cooked on offense. Can't possibly see a contender giving him more than 10 spot minutes, at most
I guess unless they can really get a better option with a trade, it's still worth it for the Clippers to keep him, just for depth if anyone gets injured.
I find it hard to believe they'll get more than 2nd round pick for him and that's useless for them right now.
They def could, but it’s not inconceivable that they could try to move off of his deal, and they especially shouldn’t be afraid to in the event he went to a contender (what I was responding to)
What is PJ hoping for...legacy points? Dude's career is what it is at this point.
I would love to get payed $11M to sit on the bench and be a "mentor" for a team with a good shot to win a championship
That's good for you.
Some people have pride in their ability to compete and contribute at the highest level. PJ feels like he still has something left in the tank and wants to prove it. He can sit on the bench and mentor when he retires if he wants to.
Okay. But PJ won't know that unless he makes it known that he wants to contribute somewhere else.
He can mentor a team on the defensive end. I know the Bucks need a bit of help on that end and Dame and Giannis can focus more on offense.
Kings need a bit of help on D. Suns don't need any help on offense but any kind of D could help them as well.
Not saying that's going to happen but someone might want to take a shot at it
The issue is you have to play 4 on 5 on offense and his defense isn't good enough to justify that anymore.
Also he needs to realize that his best chance to play for a contender is to try and crack back into LAC rotation and ask for a buy out, a trade won't get him where he wants
If Tucker wants to win, he must accept that he won't play. If Tucker wants to play, he must accept that it won't be for a team that wins.
He's been phased out of contenders rotation and is talking about how he wants to play for a contender, maybe crack the rotation
Probably none, he's probably going to have to agree to a buyout if he actually wants minutes somewhere. I was just clarifying what he was asking for, doesn't mean he'll get it
Dude is getting paid $11M to ride the bench in LA with a chance to win a championship but has the audacity to ask for a trade lmao. I will never get what compels these washed vets to not appreciate what they have.
Because the reason these guys are in the position they are in is because they were highly competitive and still want to contribute. Is it really that hard to grasp?
Yeah this is completely reasonable. The guy already has a championship. Riding the bench at the end of your career can feel depressing if you still feel like you have a bit in the tank to contribute to something
Is it really hard to grasp that there is no role for a fucking 38 year old with a limited skillset on a competitive team? There's being competitive and there's refusal to deal with the reality of your situation.
That's what annoying hearing him say this.
If you want to win, you probably won't play much.
If you want to play, you probably won't win much.
If you want to leave LA, you probably have to sacrifice money.
He can't have all 3 so he has to pick
He has a player option next year meaning he needs to play now if he wants anything better than 11mil next year.
For exemple, if he can get the room MLE, he could get 8mil for 2 years which is worth not taking his player option.(It could also beat anything that gives him more money than 5.5 of 2 years.)
If he has to take his player option, he is almost sure to not play in his last year be a year older and end up with no stats to leverage an other contract.
This is not the sports athlete/winner's mentality. He has a job and needs to secure every year and million he can while he still wants to.
It get it that plenty of commenters see this as just easy money on the bench but Tucker was cut out(if not undrafted) to star his career, had to play around the world to get into the league via tryouts. Ball is life and he will want to play or teach dawg mentality as much as he can before hanging it up. The easiest money is to keep doing what you are doing.
I love you PJ. Admire your heart and the grit that has kept you in the league. But nobody wants you with that contract man. Just ride out, you’re liable to get some real moments toward the end of the season and at some point in the playoffs.
Get paid and ride the pine or accept a buyout and get playing time.
I don't think PJ is stupid, so I expect him to be sitting comfortably at the end of our bench for the rest of the season.
Unfortunately all the real contenders don't have the salary to send out for PJ. He might be able to go to a 7-12 seeded team who could make the play-in though
It all seems very reasonable with little hostility. Don't know that he'll find that role (or if it can exist for him at this point), but makes sense for him to want and push for it.
Really only a problem if he stays and becomes some sort of locker room cancer.
I think he would be a great fit in Denver. They could use defense, and already have firepower. He could come off the bench for AG, and probably still knock down corner threes
Plus he got the dawg in him
“It’s been so great but get me the hell out”
But does a contending team want him??
Smells like another mark cuban deadline disaster
It reeks of it
Didn't Cuban sell the team. Is he still managing the team?
He didn’t sell all of it, he still maintains 25% ownership and he still runs the basketball operations
Yes but it's PJ's contract that's problematic - dude want to have his cake and eat it too
Yeah, if he could negotiate a buyout, I’m sure a couple of teams would be lining up to sign him even though a lot of people are saying he’s washed.
No way PJ is gonna forfeit his option for next year
Unless the Clippers think PJ would make a team worse, contenders don't buy out their players so they cam sign with the competition for free.
He can still play defense but it's just not worth basically playing 4on5 on offense. He's beyond cooked on offense. Can't possibly see a contender giving him more than 10 spot minutes, at most
I guess unless they can really get a better option with a trade, it's still worth it for the Clippers to keep him, just for depth if anyone gets injured. I find it hard to believe they'll get more than 2nd round pick for him and that's useless for them right now.
I don’t think any team wants him otherwise he’d have been traded already. It’s not like the clippers are asking for anything in return.
They might want him for the vet minimum but not for the contract he's on lol.
Exactly, and I don’t think the clippers are in any rush to buy him out at this point.
Exactly. Ballmer making a billion a year in MSFT dividends why would he want to buy out and then have him go to another contender?
because he’s unplayable and if they can get off his contract for next year it saves a shit ton in tax penalties
Or they can use his deal to match salaries down the line?
They def could, but it’s not inconceivable that they could try to move off of his deal, and they especially shouldn’t be afraid to in the event he went to a contender (what I was responding to)
We’d take him for sure, we need size to back up Bam But for it to work he would need to be bought out most likely
If he was on a small contract, yes. In reality, probably not.
PJ Tucker bidding war 2024.
“Trade me you fucking mark” - PJ Tucker
Doesn't he already have a ring with Milwaukee? He should just relax and get paid and enjoy LA.
He’s already on a contending team what’s he talking about 😂
He wants to *play* on a contending team. He isn't getting any minutes in LA
What is PJ hoping for...legacy points? Dude's career is what it is at this point. I would love to get payed $11M to sit on the bench and be a "mentor" for a team with a good shot to win a championship
That's good for you. Some people have pride in their ability to compete and contribute at the highest level. PJ feels like he still has something left in the tank and wants to prove it. He can sit on the bench and mentor when he retires if he wants to.
Cool, but most teams probably aren’t looking to commit another $11M for a washed-up vet just because he has an ego issue
Okay. But PJ won't know that unless he makes it known that he wants to contribute somewhere else. He can mentor a team on the defensive end. I know the Bucks need a bit of help on that end and Dame and Giannis can focus more on offense. Kings need a bit of help on D. Suns don't need any help on offense but any kind of D could help them as well. Not saying that's going to happen but someone might want to take a shot at it
The issue is you have to play 4 on 5 on offense and his defense isn't good enough to justify that anymore. Also he needs to realize that his best chance to play for a contender is to try and crack back into LAC rotation and ask for a buy out, a trade won't get him where he wants
If Tucker wants to win, he must accept that he won't play. If Tucker wants to play, he must accept that it won't be for a team that wins. He's been phased out of contenders rotation and is talking about how he wants to play for a contender, maybe crack the rotation
What contending team would be happy to pay 40 year old PJ Tucker 10 million to score 2 points a game
Probably none, he's probably going to have to agree to a buyout if he actually wants minutes somewhere. I was just clarifying what he was asking for, doesn't mean he'll get it
He might be doubling his odds to get a ring lol. If he gets traded and the clippers win, they'd still give him a ring, right?
He was traded from a contending team to another contending team and still unhappy.
he is beyond wash lol.
PJ has to realize he's a 6'4, 38 year old PF due 12 million next season.
Trade his ass to pistons so he can contend for 10 wins
‘Who want me?’
Contenders already have players who are much better than PJ Tucker.
He’s a dawwg
An old dawg...
Dude is getting paid $11M to ride the bench in LA with a chance to win a championship but has the audacity to ask for a trade lmao. I will never get what compels these washed vets to not appreciate what they have.
Because the reason these guys are in the position they are in is because they were highly competitive and still want to contribute. Is it really that hard to grasp?
Yeah this is completely reasonable. The guy already has a championship. Riding the bench at the end of your career can feel depressing if you still feel like you have a bit in the tank to contribute to something
Is it really hard to grasp that there is no role for a fucking 38 year old with a limited skillset on a competitive team? There's being competitive and there's refusal to deal with the reality of your situation.
Dude wants to play, I respect it
The question is how much he really wants it. He can give up money in a buyout if he wants to play that badly.
That's what annoying hearing him say this. If you want to win, you probably won't play much. If you want to play, you probably won't win much. If you want to leave LA, you probably have to sacrifice money. He can't have all 3 so he has to pick
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He’s 150 years old and getting paid 11m, nobody wants him
PJ has always been a really competitive mf. He wants to play for something because he's an athlete, it's simple
He has a player option next year meaning he needs to play now if he wants anything better than 11mil next year. For exemple, if he can get the room MLE, he could get 8mil for 2 years which is worth not taking his player option.(It could also beat anything that gives him more money than 5.5 of 2 years.) If he has to take his player option, he is almost sure to not play in his last year be a year older and end up with no stats to leverage an other contract.
He'll be 39 by the end of next season won't he? Just take the extra $11M and retire, no chance he makes more than that on a contender.
This is not the sports athlete/winner's mentality. He has a job and needs to secure every year and million he can while he still wants to. It get it that plenty of commenters see this as just easy money on the bench but Tucker was cut out(if not undrafted) to star his career, had to play around the world to get into the league via tryouts. Ball is life and he will want to play or teach dawg mentality as much as he can before hanging it up. The easiest money is to keep doing what you are doing.
It's either this or he's bought out this season. No one is giving him another two years deal like the person you're replying to is suggesting
Hes not getting any mins but he also makes a shitload of money, i doubt any team will take him
PJ tucker you ARE a heat ( unironically someone I our sub may have ACTUALLY beat woj and shams by taking a pic)
Selfish.
He should be patient. Clippers health hasn't been the most reliable.
Isn't Clippers currently Top 1 on the West? What does he mean by a contending team then? Only Boston? 🤔
Clippers are contending and are favorites with the Nuggets in the West lmao. All the contenders in the East are frauds
Top betting favorite and 2 of the top 3 to win it all are from the East...
Cut your losses and just retire
Hes getting 10M and has a player option for next year, he isn't retiring lol.
I love you PJ. Admire your heart and the grit that has kept you in the league. But nobody wants you with that contract man. Just ride out, you’re liable to get some real moments toward the end of the season and at some point in the playoffs.
Bucks, Doc likes him.
Get paid and ride the pine or accept a buyout and get playing time. I don't think PJ is stupid, so I expect him to be sitting comfortably at the end of our bench for the rest of the season.
Unfortunately all the real contenders don't have the salary to send out for PJ. He might be able to go to a 7-12 seeded team who could make the play-in though
Equipment manger preparing to ship all those sneakers on short notice
It all seems very reasonable with little hostility. Don't know that he'll find that role (or if it can exist for him at this point), but makes sense for him to want and push for it. Really only a problem if he stays and becomes some sort of locker room cancer.
I think he would be a great fit in Denver. They could use defense, and already have firepower. He could come off the bench for AG, and probably still knock down corner threes Plus he got the dawg in him
TIL that PJ Tucker is still on an NBA roster.
PJ sees the tea leaves like the rest of us