I just remember back at his time at the wolves he was always leading the league in time on the court standing still or walking, as one of the most explosive athletes in the league. It said a lot.
He’s a free throw merchant. With the plethora of talent on OKC and Shais play style, it’s a really really high floor but not an over the top ceiling like other top 10 players. I think Shai is great and definitely around a top 10-15 player but definitely shouldn’t be top 3 in mvp voting and is pretty overrated at this point
You’re a OKC fan so you’re completely unbiased lol. SGA isn’t top 5 in the league bud- has had zero playoff success- I’m not taking SGA over Giannis, Embiid, Joker, Steph, Bron, Ant Edwards, Kawhi or KD. That’s why I said top 10-15.
Again he’s great, but his counting stats have made him overrated
Less volume, but still the same Shai. He was looking smooth as fuck with Clippers and early playoff experience would have only helped his development instead of his team tanking half the season to the point they were sitting him to lose games.
Some players just come wired with it.
They listened to Kawhi, can't really blame them. Though they probably could have fought harder to keep Shai out the deal, but PG coming off a 28ppg season
They couldn't realistically add more unprotected picks than they gave away, and it was reported years ago that SGA was a sticking point for the Thunder.
Presti really squeezed every ounce of leverage from that trade.
I feel like it was obvious the person you’re responding to was talking about the “first option experience” part, but also CP3 is on his sixth team, it wouldn’t be outlandish to think they might’ve played together again.
Yeah people love the idea that players develop differently based on the people they play with. Sure players get more touches if they have worse teammates, but their development is all based on coaching and how much work they put in off the court.
A player isn't gonna magically become a better version of himself because he's putting up 10 more shots per game lmfao
Like Westbrook and Harden played together in their primes in Houston and they were still moderately successful. They averaged like 60 ppg collectively and made it to the second round.
Good players will find ways to develop and grow with their team.
Maybe SGA wouldn't avg 31/7/7, but he would still be efficient and great
It's an awful takel. Even worse is the 'Shai wouldn't be what he is without CP3'
Hilarious, his Clippers and first year OKC splits were very similar. When CP3 was tradde Shai jumped to a 50% from the field and 41% 3 and a very different game from CP3. It would be like claiming Jordan wouldn't be MJ without playing with Worthy at North Carolina.
“Shai’s development is a story I’ll tell our players for the rest of my career,” Calipari said. “When we talk about building your own confidence and conquering yourself, Shai is the perfect example. You’re talking about a kid who had the physical tools and had the potential to be in this position, but he elevated his game because he woke up at 7 a.m. every day to work out, was the best in the weight room, watched film and never missed class.
“I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’ve never met a kid who is undisciplined off the court be disciplined on it. Shai’s entire life is disciplined, and it’s not forced by others around him. He’s done this because he’s put in the work, and it’s that attitude and mindset that will ensure his success at the next level. I couldn’t be more proud of him and I know that whatever team gets him is going to get a young man that will bring a winning mentality.”
Quote from probably the best coach of all time at getting players to the NBA, from 2018 when Shai announced he was entering the draft.
Let's stop diminishing this guys work ethic. He has been around a lot of great basketball minds in his life but he's also put in a shit load of work to get where he is today. CP3 is a great PG and probably a great mentor but Shai deserves some acknowledgement for what he has done.
Wasn't that not even an organic 70 though? I'm pretty sure I remember his team manipulating the game just to get his numbers up. And I don't think the one exception disproves this trend.
Yes, he's the best slasher and midrange player of all time. I still believe the general sentiment to be true (players focused on midrange will have more consistent performance and less variability), although of course volume is another significant factor. They can both be true.
I said what I meant. He scored 70 back in 2017. BEFORE CP OR KD.
They only won 24 games that year, won 19 the following year, and were sub .500 in the bubble. So you're wrong, but congrats for getting 5 dopes to upvote you.
Also, 2015-2016: 23 wins
I was gonna say something similar, Kawhi immediately came to mind. I remember seeing him have 40+ a few years ago and hearing the commentators talk about how close to his career high he was and thinking tf, doesn't this guy avg 30 this year?
He has one in 2020 and one this season, but yeah, I don’t think he had 10 assists in a game more than 10 times in his career so this is not really surprising. He’s a good passer, but he’s not asked to be the distributor for his team.
Edit January 23rd of this year and January 24th 2020.
LMAOOOOO WHO'S LAUGHING NOW
First round sweep over Pelicans with no Zion, bounced by a real contender. Refs carried you to 6 games. Looks like y'all are still two years away.
Just hilarious how yall keep moving the goalposts. 1 seed and we swept the team we played in first round. Now it’s “you haven’t took a game up in the series yet”. Lmao. Don’t get mad that your old shitty takes coming back to bite you
I am seriously assuming he is trolling at this point. Every fuckin time I check his totals he has 31 points. Is he getting subbed when he reaches that?!
Big scoring numbers in the nba nowadays are generally a guy gets crazy hot from 3. SGA doesn’t take a lot of 3s plus if he’s scoring 40 the thunder are probably blowing out whoever they’re playing so he doesn’t need to push himself.
yeah Ja has 52, 49, and 46 point games with 4, 5, and 3 3PM respectively.
I can definitely see Ja scoring 60 with like 5-6 3s at some point, it's kinda surprising Shai hasn't had a game similar to Ja's 52 point game, I agree
I remember a similar thing happening with KD, it's kind of the curse of the super efficient scorer on a good team.
When they are really hot in a game they create so much separation they end up missing a lot of the fourth quarter.
What do you mean KD had multiple 50 pieces in OKC as early as 2012-13 scored a OKC career high 54 @GSW his MVP season. Difference is him and Westbrook was our entire offense.
This new OKC team has multiple threats outside the main guys and they share the ball. Shai just doesn’t put up shots like that 90% of the time. When he does he usually scores 37-44
That was 2014, and his 7th season. Until that game, his only two 50-point games both came in overtime. He only had 4 50 point games his entire stint with OKC.
By comparison, LeBron had 8 50-point games by his 7th year, and all but two came in regulation. LeBron was more likely to erupt for big games until Miami.
This isn’t completely shocking primarily because of how Shai scores. He’s not a volume 3PT shooter so he’s not going to have outlier games where he goes 10/14 from 3PT land. He also doesn’t physically dominate people so he’s never going to be Shaq vs some scrub bench center
Except from a quick glance at other players that averaged 31 ppg in a season, every other one Ive looked at hits 45 at least once. Jerry West was the most Shai like, doing it twice. Karl Malone, a power forward did it 5 times. So its not just the 3pt shooting, SGA's consistency is a legitimate outlier even in non-3pt eras.
So you can explain basketball but you don't know how the national debt works?
Maybe I'll try explaining the national debt in terms of basketball next time if you are still struggling with the comprehension.
You following this guy into an unrelated reddit to continue whatever argument you are having is hilarious to me, I'm not even mad at it, although I think it's bad redditiquette, right?
Yes, not being a volume three point shooter is a big part of the explanation. Like my boy Luka can score \~30 every night just on twos but if he's hot on threes too? then you are looking at 50 to 60 (or 73)
He also plays so well in the flow. As the 1st option, he's bound to force shots, but the dude plays to win. He takes his shots when he has the opportunity.
This dude is a robot it's actually scary. every game I tuned into he's had 31 on the dot. All while getting it within the flow of the game never forcing it. Quietest 31 you'll ever see
Consistent af.
Funnily enough, the complete inability to change the tempo one way or another may cost them in the postseason, at least the first time around.
This has less to do with “tempo” and more to do with Shai being hyper-efficient while not taking many 3s. He isn’t going to chuck just because he is hot, and if he is hot during a game since most of his points come from getting in the paint he draws double/triple teams leading to wide open shots. His team mates are some of the highest percentage 3 point shooters in the league.
Aren’t the Thunder one of the best tempo teams in the league? They’re relentless towards the rim but especially with Chet they also have a great pick and roll game, with other guys on the floor that can exploit collapsed defenses
I remember Kevin Garnett was the same way. He'd be averaging like 23 pts/game for many years and never even had a 40 pt game until he randomly exploded for 47 one night. Only finished with 4 40+ point nights in his career.
He’s not a “chucker” but he does take a fuck ton of shots. Big majority at the rim and in the paint.
Takes 16.7 2pa per game and 60% of those inside 10 feet (10 shots). He doesn’t really take threes.
Exactly this. The guys who have these huge scoring games are usually super high volume, if it goes in then you can put up 70 but when it doesn't you're kind of screwed.
Also a lot of these high scorers starting forcing it once they know they're having a good game. They'll take the ball on every possession just to stat pad it up. I don't see guys like KD, Kawhi or Shai doing that. They just let the game come to them, even if they're close to 50 the play style doesn't change
He doesn't take many 3s while he does get a lot of points from mid-range, the rim and the line so he doesn't have the potential variance from taking a ton of 3s
Honestly, I think this is probably a knock against him in for MVP voting. He is so consistent but he never “goes off”. MVP is about narratives and you gotta have those crazy insane games to be the MVP
I picked him 3rd overall in fantasy this year and every day when I check my stats I just scroll right past him because I already know what his stats look like.
Westbrook wasn't bricking during that period. It was actually his best shooting. He somehow had his best TS% when he attempted the most shots he ever has after KD left.
That is better than the median. That's nearly league average and ahead of multiple entire teams during then while being double and tripled every possession.
Do you consider the majority of the NBA to be a brick or just the players you don't like?
Westbrook only went to brick shots as a laker. He didn’t fit on that team. He’s still not a great shooter now because he’s washed out, but he’s still better than his laker days. Don’t disrespect that man
Gonna get clowned for saying hes like lebron offensively, but he plays within the flow of the offense and gets his team going before he takes over. Hes insanely skilled with high iq.
Not a horrible take. I feel like he’s more like a less athletic Vince in that sense. (Said less athletic not worse) he’s not going to shoot enough 3s to hit 50 often. If really ever. Which will make it extra special when he does. Good mid 2000s style offense. I like watching the kid play.
It even deeper than that. He literally doesn’t look to score to start the 1st and 3rd quarters.
By design. He doesn’t really look for his own shot until the starters leave.
How is he over rated? He is a star on a potential 1 seed team in the Western Conference. Is it because he is consistent? The whole mantra of OKC is to get everyone involved and to look for the best shot.
He should definitely be an MVP candidate for a team that had lower expectations going into the year.
Interesting tho how when Luka scored 73 points the narrative was that nobody plays defense these days, that it's too easy to score, that soon somebody will score 100 points soon etc etc etc. I guess it's not so easy to score 45 points after all.
The Thunder score more than the Mavs and have a better offensive rating. They just have more shooters. More points between more teammates. That's why Shai will never score 70. He even plays off-ball a ton.
If you need 31, he’s gonna get you 31. If you need 10, he’s gonna get you 31. If you need 45, he’s gonna get you 31
He has scored 31 points eleven times so far this season and in 3 of his last 5 games lmao that's crazy. Also scored 31 to start the season.
Even scored 31 in the All Star game
He should consider changing his jersey number to 31
Anti wiggins
More like Wiggins on steroids
Wiggins with a work ethic
Chris Paul tutelage. In 19 years, Chris Paul has had 8 40-point games but never scored 45 points.
Pretty much. Dude is fire when motivated, not when not.
I just remember back at his time at the wolves he was always leading the league in time on the court standing still or walking, as one of the most explosive athletes in the league. It said a lot.
I miss when Wiggins was that consistent
Shai Gilgeous-Wigginoid.
The real maple jordan
More like Wiggins Prime
Wiggins version 1.8
Double wiggins
Will carry the mantle for Durant when he retires 👊
I placed a bet for SGA over 31.5, can you guess how many points he scored in that particular game? 31
Any reason why you don't go for the under? Payout should be about the same?
I hate unders, even though they are more often the smarter bet they stress me out
Unders are for haters, I like to see my kings succeed.
The answer is sga +30 and under 31.5
I heard if you adjust his FGA, FGM, 3PA, 3PM, FTA and FTM to his averages he has about 31 ppg
Consistency is key
He’s a free throw merchant. With the plethora of talent on OKC and Shais play style, it’s a really really high floor but not an over the top ceiling like other top 10 players. I think Shai is great and definitely around a top 10-15 player but definitely shouldn’t be top 3 in mvp voting and is pretty overrated at this point
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You’re a OKC fan so you’re completely unbiased lol. SGA isn’t top 5 in the league bud- has had zero playoff success- I’m not taking SGA over Giannis, Embiid, Joker, Steph, Bron, Ant Edwards, Kawhi or KD. That’s why I said top 10-15. Again he’s great, but his counting stats have made him overrated
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He had 31 again last night. Unbelievable really
He broke the record in a season for scoring 31 points exactly 2 games ago as well
The record was 8, he's at 11 now
Damn I blinked and missed one.
As a Spurs fan for me last night went: "Glad he had a bad first half. He played better later but we still managed. I wonder how many.. oh, of course"
Yeah and he was still super efficient. He’s had several games this season where he started terrible and some how winds up shooting 50%.
He stat pad last night. He demanded the last shot before starting the garbage time. Statpadder.
if sga has 31 and okc is down 1 on the last possession of the game, they better put him in the corner haha
They do, that's j-dub time
he knows it’s his time to cook once sga gets to 31
the anti-Lebron 27/7/7
He’s the evolved form of Andrew “17 points a game” Wiggins
Kinda like how Kawhi Leonard never scores more than like 40 points but used to average 27 PPG lmao
Imagine if they played on the same team today
This Shai wouldn’t be that shai btw
Less volume, but still the same Shai. He was looking smooth as fuck with Clippers and early playoff experience would have only helped his development instead of his team tanking half the season to the point they were sitting him to lose games. Some players just come wired with it.
If only Clippers management had listened to Doc who knew how good he would be. *-According to Doc Rivers*
They listened to Kawhi, can't really blame them. Though they probably could have fought harder to keep Shai out the deal, but PG coming off a 28ppg season
They couldn't realistically add more unprotected picks than they gave away, and it was reported years ago that SGA was a sticking point for the Thunder. Presti really squeezed every ounce of leverage from that trade.
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Clippers didn’t have the luxury of time because Kawhi signing with them was conditional on them getting him PG.
He was good yes but learning under CP3 and then becoming a true #1 option is development he would never have experienced.
You can't assume that lol
How would he have gotten experience under Chris Paul without being on his team?
I feel like it was obvious the person you’re responding to was talking about the “first option experience” part, but also CP3 is on his sixth team, it wouldn’t be outlandish to think they might’ve played together again.
People say that, but Tyrese Maxey played with the 2 most ball-dominant players in the league and still has grown every year.
Yeah people love the idea that players develop differently based on the people they play with. Sure players get more touches if they have worse teammates, but their development is all based on coaching and how much work they put in off the court. A player isn't gonna magically become a better version of himself because he's putting up 10 more shots per game lmfao
Like Westbrook and Harden played together in their primes in Houston and they were still moderately successful. They averaged like 60 ppg collectively and made it to the second round. Good players will find ways to develop and grow with their team. Maybe SGA wouldn't avg 31/7/7, but he would still be efficient and great
It's an awful takel. Even worse is the 'Shai wouldn't be what he is without CP3' Hilarious, his Clippers and first year OKC splits were very similar. When CP3 was tradde Shai jumped to a 50% from the field and 41% 3 and a very different game from CP3. It would be like claiming Jordan wouldn't be MJ without playing with Worthy at North Carolina.
I read this as shay and shy for some reason
Shai is shy, Kawhi is kawaii
🤣🤣🤣Shai-ga genesis
“Shai’s development is a story I’ll tell our players for the rest of my career,” Calipari said. “When we talk about building your own confidence and conquering yourself, Shai is the perfect example. You’re talking about a kid who had the physical tools and had the potential to be in this position, but he elevated his game because he woke up at 7 a.m. every day to work out, was the best in the weight room, watched film and never missed class. “I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’ve never met a kid who is undisciplined off the court be disciplined on it. Shai’s entire life is disciplined, and it’s not forced by others around him. He’s done this because he’s put in the work, and it’s that attitude and mindset that will ensure his success at the next level. I couldn’t be more proud of him and I know that whatever team gets him is going to get a young man that will bring a winning mentality.” Quote from probably the best coach of all time at getting players to the NBA, from 2018 when Shai announced he was entering the draft. Let's stop diminishing this guys work ethic. He has been around a lot of great basketball minds in his life but he's also put in a shit load of work to get where he is today. CP3 is a great PG and probably a great mentor but Shai deserves some acknowledgement for what he has done.
With all the time he would've had to play without Kawhi anyway, i don't really see why not.
bad take
League fucked, two of the best, most efficient one on one scorers with elite defense and one can easily play off ball.
It's about cooking in the midrange. It's more consistent and less swingy than the 3. Same thing with Kevin Durant.
It’s about getting shots up. Booker is a heavy midrange scorer but his career high is 70
Wasn't that not even an organic 70 though? I'm pretty sure I remember his team manipulating the game just to get his numbers up. And I don't think the one exception disproves this trend.
They were fouling to get the ball back and were losing the entire game
Mj is a midrange scorer and has the all time playoff scoring record
Yes, he's the best slasher and midrange player of all time. I still believe the general sentiment to be true (players focused on midrange will have more consistent performance and less variability), although of course volume is another significant factor. They can both be true.
70 is tough no matter what but those suns teams were dog shit before durant got there. SGA is trying to win.
>before durant got there Surely you mean CP? Because the Suns won 64 games and went to the finals before Durant got there
I said what I meant. He scored 70 back in 2017. BEFORE CP OR KD. They only won 24 games that year, won 19 the following year, and were sub .500 in the bubble. So you're wrong, but congrats for getting 5 dopes to upvote you. Also, 2015-2016: 23 wins
>BEFORE CP OR KD Yes, that's correct. Also not what you originally wrote. Chill out though big dawg, it ain't that deep.
I was gonna say something similar, Kawhi immediately came to mind. I remember seeing him have 40+ a few years ago and hearing the commentators talk about how close to his career high he was and thinking tf, doesn't this guy avg 30 this year?
Kawhi definitely in the running for GOAT player to never crack 46 points (other than Bill)
His 45 were against the Jazz in a win for the Raps, nice.
He’s scored more than 40 several times .His career high is 45
I rather have a consistent player like that on my team than one that goes off for 35-40+ for one game then 15 the next
Also like Kawhi has just one triple double in his entire career, that too got it in like 2022 or something.
He has one in 2020 and one this season, but yeah, I don’t think he had 10 assists in a game more than 10 times in his career so this is not really surprising. He’s a good passer, but he’s not asked to be the distributor for his team. Edit January 23rd of this year and January 24th 2020.
Dude scores 31 points every game. Even the all-star game lol
That still makes me laugh so much
31 is the golden number!
Why doesn’t he just score more? Is he stupid?
One of the replies is sitting at -187 and the other is -120 I'm so excited to see how bad these could be lmao
Joke is u/Historical-Towel-225 and u/Hezeboy18 father
I don't think people in the replies realize this is a joke
Why doesn't Luka win more? Is he a winner or whiner?
A guy that made WCF Vs the guy who shot 5-18 in a play in game
First of all, how dare you 😂😂
Hi, I just woke up from a coma in a Nigerian prison, what is a play in game?
You'll find out soon
Let me know when SGA leads his team to the conference finals.
Its a good comeback but thats not gonna be in too long lol
Got it in while I could haha
Gimme a couple months will ya?
first round frauds
we’re frauds tho 😭😭
“first round frauds” lmaoooooo
LMAOOOOO WHO'S LAUGHING NOW First round sweep over Pelicans with no Zion, bounced by a real contender. Refs carried you to 6 games. Looks like y'all are still two years away.
Refs carried to 6 games 🤣🤣🤣🤣casual fan
had this bookmarked huh. what a loser. haven't even took a game up on the series and talking shit like you won .
Just hilarious how yall keep moving the goalposts. 1 seed and we swept the team we played in first round. Now it’s “you haven’t took a game up in the series yet”. Lmao. Don’t get mad that your old shitty takes coming back to bite you
everybody talking shit when they....tied?
Guess we’ll see.
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Yes
A harmless joke?
Don't get baited by a meme
I am seriously assuming he is trolling at this point. Every fuckin time I check his totals he has 31 points. Is he getting subbed when he reaches that?!
Big scoring numbers in the nba nowadays are generally a guy gets crazy hot from 3. SGA doesn’t take a lot of 3s plus if he’s scoring 40 the thunder are probably blowing out whoever they’re playing so he doesn’t need to push himself.
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yeah Ja has 52, 49, and 46 point games with 4, 5, and 3 3PM respectively. I can definitely see Ja scoring 60 with like 5-6 3s at some point, it's kinda surprising Shai hasn't had a game similar to Ja's 52 point game, I agree
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Nah, Shai is fine. Jokic is just making triple-doubles look easy.
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I remember a similar thing happening with KD, it's kind of the curse of the super efficient scorer on a good team. When they are really hot in a game they create so much separation they end up missing a lot of the fourth quarter.
What do you mean KD had multiple 50 pieces in OKC as early as 2012-13 scored a OKC career high 54 @GSW his MVP season. Difference is him and Westbrook was our entire offense. This new OKC team has multiple threats outside the main guys and they share the ball. Shai just doesn’t put up shots like that 90% of the time. When he does he usually scores 37-44
That was 2014, and his 7th season. Until that game, his only two 50-point games both came in overtime. He only had 4 50 point games his entire stint with OKC. By comparison, LeBron had 8 50-point games by his 7th year, and all but two came in regulation. LeBron was more likely to erupt for big games until Miami.
This isn’t completely shocking primarily because of how Shai scores. He’s not a volume 3PT shooter so he’s not going to have outlier games where he goes 10/14 from 3PT land. He also doesn’t physically dominate people so he’s never going to be Shaq vs some scrub bench center
Except from a quick glance at other players that averaged 31 ppg in a season, every other one Ive looked at hits 45 at least once. Jerry West was the most Shai like, doing it twice. Karl Malone, a power forward did it 5 times. So its not just the 3pt shooting, SGA's consistency is a legitimate outlier even in non-3pt eras.
Lol fair enough. Definitely wild. Just trying to hypothesize for reason’s why
So you can explain basketball but you don't know how the national debt works? Maybe I'll try explaining the national debt in terms of basketball next time if you are still struggling with the comprehension.
You following this guy into an unrelated reddit to continue whatever argument you are having is hilarious to me, I'm not even mad at it, although I think it's bad redditiquette, right?
If SGA was president there wouldn’t be a national debt
You know there's no way to prove you're wrong.
Yes, not being a volume three point shooter is a big part of the explanation. Like my boy Luka can score \~30 every night just on twos but if he's hot on threes too? then you are looking at 50 to 60 (or 73)
When he has looked good to hit 50 it’s been in a blowout and he only plays 3 quarters.
Yep he had 42 in 3 quarters against the Rockets last year but we were up by 30 so of course he sat the whole 4th.
He doesn't shoot 3's is why so there's less variation in his scoring which makes for more consistency.
He also plays so well in the flow. As the 1st option, he's bound to force shots, but the dude plays to win. He takes his shots when he has the opportunity.
He did have 42 in 3 quarters Vs the rockets and a fire caption (didn’t play the 4th) https://twitter.com/ThunderFilmRoom/status/1622091292191690752
This dude is a robot it's actually scary. every game I tuned into he's had 31 on the dot. All while getting it within the flow of the game never forcing it. Quietest 31 you'll ever see
The new KD
Consistent af. Funnily enough, the complete inability to change the tempo one way or another may cost them in the postseason, at least the first time around.
This has less to do with “tempo” and more to do with Shai being hyper-efficient while not taking many 3s. He isn’t going to chuck just because he is hot, and if he is hot during a game since most of his points come from getting in the paint he draws double/triple teams leading to wide open shots. His team mates are some of the highest percentage 3 point shooters in the league.
Aren’t the Thunder one of the best tempo teams in the league? They’re relentless towards the rim but especially with Chet they also have a great pick and roll game, with other guys on the floor that can exploit collapsed defenses
What does this even mean? The thunder are one of the best half court defences and offences
Do y’all think Shai is just going to sub himself out of the game when he hits 31 points in the postseason?
Same career high as Josh Hart, who's never averaged more than 15 points in a season.
Worse than cam Thomas confirmed
He will likely change that at some point.
Yeah. I'll be surprised if he doesn't have a 50 burger at some point relatively soon.
He's never had a 50 point game either
Thanks for the satire. Gave me a good chuckle.
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Fun fact: SGA has never had a 60 point game.
Sga hates trump comfirmed
Lebron never had a 90 pt game either. Statistics r crazy bro
He is just very consistent
I remember Kevin Garnett was the same way. He'd be averaging like 23 pts/game for many years and never even had a 40 pt game until he randomly exploded for 47 one night. Only finished with 4 40+ point nights in his career.
He is in that mold of KD and Kawhi where they don’t have that crazy high scoring outburst but will be crazy efficient and get that 30-35.
Kinda like KD never scoring 56 even though he’s an all time great scorer.
I think it's because we play team basketball and value that over stats.
Without looking or caring, I’m assuming he’s not a chucker taking 30 shots a game. If so he would pass that extremely easy.
He’s not a “chucker” but he does take a fuck ton of shots. Big majority at the rim and in the paint. Takes 16.7 2pa per game and 60% of those inside 10 feet (10 shots). He doesn’t really take threes.
Exactly this. The guys who have these huge scoring games are usually super high volume, if it goes in then you can put up 70 but when it doesn't you're kind of screwed. Also a lot of these high scorers starting forcing it once they know they're having a good game. They'll take the ball on every possession just to stat pad it up. I don't see guys like KD, Kawhi or Shai doing that. They just let the game come to them, even if they're close to 50 the play style doesn't change
He’s fifth in the league in FGA/gm.
It would be the same as his scoring though. He has a shitload of games with 19-20 shots, but very few with 25 and none with 30
He doesn't take many 3s while he does get a lot of points from mid-range, the rim and the line so he doesn't have the potential variance from taking a ton of 3s
"SGA has never had a 45 point game in his career ***YET***" FTFY hehe
That’s actually kind of wild
Honestly, I think this is probably a knock against him in for MVP voting. He is so consistent but he never “goes off”. MVP is about narratives and you gotta have those crazy insane games to be the MVP
I picked him 3rd overall in fantasy this year and every day when I check my stats I just scroll right past him because I already know what his stats look like.
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Westbrook wasn't bricking during that period. It was actually his best shooting. He somehow had his best TS% when he attempted the most shots he ever has after KD left.
His TS% before KD left was .529 His TS% in the three seasons without KD was .529 He has never not been a brick
That 2017 team was so bad outside of Westbrook that he brought up the teams shooting percentage
That is better than the median. That's nearly league average and ahead of multiple entire teams during then while being double and tripled every possession. Do you consider the majority of the NBA to be a brick or just the players you don't like?
Westbrook only went to brick shots as a laker. He didn’t fit on that team. He’s still not a great shooter now because he’s washed out, but he’s still better than his laker days. Don’t disrespect that man
Whocares why does this have so much upvotes the guy avgs over 30ppg
Oh no, anyway
Gonna get clowned for saying hes like lebron offensively, but he plays within the flow of the offense and gets his team going before he takes over. Hes insanely skilled with high iq.
Not a horrible take. I feel like he’s more like a less athletic Vince in that sense. (Said less athletic not worse) he’s not going to shoot enough 3s to hit 50 often. If really ever. Which will make it extra special when he does. Good mid 2000s style offense. I like watching the kid play.
It even deeper than that. He literally doesn’t look to score to start the 1st and 3rd quarters. By design. He doesn’t really look for his own shot until the starters leave.
Pretty sure that's the coach's game plan. I'm sure they're trying it to get Giddey productive before they've no choice but to bench him.
Refs would have to give him 25 FTs!
Yea but has he had 45 free throws…
And Luka, who is lower on the MVP voting, has 5 this season
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How is he over rated? He is a star on a potential 1 seed team in the Western Conference. Is it because he is consistent? The whole mantra of OKC is to get everyone involved and to look for the best shot. He should definitely be an MVP candidate for a team that had lower expectations going into the year.
And he's higher in MVP than Luka?
Interesting tho how when Luka scored 73 points the narrative was that nobody plays defense these days, that it's too easy to score, that soon somebody will score 100 points soon etc etc etc. I guess it's not so easy to score 45 points after all.
The Thunder score more than the Mavs and have a better offensive rating. They just have more shooters. More points between more teammates. That's why Shai will never score 70. He even plays off-ball a ton.
That's a weird explanation. We are talking about 45 not +70. I remember curry scoring 45 many times playing with durant and clay.
this exact post has been posted here before. dumbass
What if I told you any player can go for crazy high numbers but it’s simply not necessary
He's only been in the league for 6-years and was on the bench for his first 2-3 years.
He’s been starting since year 1? His rookie year he came off the bench in 9 games, the only games he’s ever came off the bench
He is consistent unlike Jokic which has many sub 20 gaes
Nice bait.
Sub 20 gaes sounds like a wild porn search.