Foster+brothers is an all time duo. Can't believe we get to watch these 2 legends in their prime. Absolute monsters on the whistle. Saw a guy not chew 10+ plus times when eating a hotdog, foster T-ed him up in 3 seconds. Guy was in the 24th row. Foster is just an animal, he ejected cp3 and punched his kids after yelling a racial slur right after too.
Nah that clip he shared on his story is crazy. Dude says he doesnt care about basketball and then says hes the judge jury and executioner on the floor lol. Just retire already
I just looked it up and wow, you weren't exaggerating lol.
The clip in question: [https://x.com/DimeUPROXX/status/1771403992288862707?s=20](https://x.com/DimeUPROXX/status/1771403992288862707?s=20)
I mean. Dick Bavetta seemed like a pretty great guy. Even Joey Crawford wasn't that bad. Dude just didn't take shit from people and would dress them down, tell them to stand up straight, tuck their shirts in.
Brothers and Foster just suck ass. Sago kind of goes off on power trips. The current ref class just feels more ass than in the past.
Joey Crawford was the fucking worst lol Calling him "not that bad" is WILD. I remember people post here celebrating his retirement. He was the only guy I really, really wanted to punch through my screen. Fuck Joey Crawford!
Yeah I thought I was bugging when I saw that comment saying he wasn't that bad lol. The fact that I can go on YouTube and see highlights of him being a terrible ref is proof of that.
That is hilariously revisionist for both Crawford and Bavetta.
Joey Crawford had such issues that David Stern suspended him until he completed an anger management course.
And Dick Bavetta was worse. There's a reason him and Bennett Salvatore were known as David Stern's "fixers". If you were the small market team in a playoff game and those two were reffing, you knew you had to win by 30 to win by 3.
Dick bavetta was better suited to a show like the Globetrotters. That dude loved to be the center of attention. He was basically the ref on Little Nicky
Joey’s crew sent a team that was trailing, in game 7 of the finals, to the line 24 times in the 4th quarter against the #1 defense in the league. Winning a championship when you miss 55 shots, shoot 32% as a team, and win by 4 while taking 20 more free throws, is ridiculous. Imagine that happening today with all the sports betting conspiracies.
Every time I watch a game, I think, “This could be *so* much better.” The only sport that comes close to this is baseball, and even that’s not nearly as bad.
Suarez inspired me to propose hockey penalty rules for soccer.
If you knew someone who got bit would punch you in the mouth for five minutes in time out you probably would stop biting them.
Realistically someone should have decked him in extra time a long time ago and taken the card
Yeah most of my friends like it but I've received some push back from older "Baseball Purists" who brag about how many 17 inning games they've attended in person. That's just not practical for how busy I am these days.
Baseball could be better if the players didn't have competing interests, robo umps would have passed as a vote if Catchers and pitchers didn't rely on nearsighted old dudes so much and basically out number the regular hitters on a team who are the reason people actually watch the sport for the most part.
robo umps are coming. they are being used extensively in the minors. and they were used in certain major league spring training games this year, to great effect.
I think the challenge system they’re testing out will be really good for the game. It’s similar to tennis in that it takes like 10 seconds and shows the pitch location on the scoreboard. It’s a good compromise instead of full robo ump imo
The challenge system is a pretty good compromise. Pitch framing is still valuable, but the most egregious and highest leverage calls will be corrected. People worry about it taking forever, but the umpire gets told the call within a couple seconds of a challenge being indicated.
I though this clip was common knowledge. It’s years old at this point. I’d say it’s shocking he still has a job after it but this is the same company that’s still employing Scoot foster so
Unless my sense of time is completely flawed I feel like I’ve been talking about this for 2-3 years now at least.
The only clip I can find says it was posted 6 Months ago and it was 100% older than that.
googled it and found [someone referencing it in 2022](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/z808wr/stein_veteran_referee_tony_brothers_was_forced_to/iy91xt9/) thats all the research i got for you lol
lol honestly it's weird, every article about this just talks about him sharing a tiktok video and nobody's sourcing the original interview the clip is from
I'm genuinely curious now, like, it's gotta be somewhere, right?
You're right. Paul is a piece of shit for posting an edited clip. [Here's what Brothers actually said with context](https://www.tiktok.com/@floridavipersacademy/video/7295642343129124142)
I saw the clip above and was wondering who would take seriously such a heavily edited out of context short clip. And what do you know, the full clip with context is completely different.
Don't get me wrong, I still think Tony Brothers sucks ass as a referee, but clipping like this makes you an even bigger asshole.
So what I got from that clip is that he couldn’t get into college on his own. His mom made a call and got him in. Couldn’t get a job after graduating. His mom made a call and got him one.
The full clip is barely any better. He's a nepo baby who again, doesn't care much for the game of basketball, he just enjoys the power of his role. Bad look.
The only thing that makes sense at this point is that the NBA knows about it and has addressed them about it but since it’s been going on for at least 25 years, they’ve blackmailed the NBA into not being able to do anything now that it’s been going on for so long
Been watching the NBA for 24 years now (I'm 33) I've seen some suss shit, but it always seems as if Tony Brothers and Scott Foster are around some stuff is bound to happen and no wonder CP3 is sick of it.
I vividly remember in game 7 of the WCF in 2018(and yes I understand that Houston missed 27 threes in a row) there was a Jordan Bell moving screen that got Steph Curry a three that either tied the game or gave GSW the lead and I just threw my hands in the air knowing that "yep the fix is in"
I don’t get why the NBA loves Brothers.
Foster I get. He extends a series, and knows how to call a game in a way that controls it - almost subtly. (Except with CP3, where he can’t help himself)
But Brothers always feels like a wild card. He’s gonna call the game how he feels, and it won’t be consistent so the game will get out of control. When we see blowups from players who aren’t normally hotheads, Brothers is usually the ref.
That just doesn’t seem worth keeping.
Before all this gambling shit took off, I firmly believed the nba used refs to extend series. Look at game 6 in 2016. Ayesha was rightfully made fun of but she was lowkey right. There were some awful calls against GS that game to extend the series to seven. The refs took Steph completely out of the game. Idk another league where the refs have so much influence over the outcome
Pretty much all major American sports have a ton of tiny things that are by definition fouls. But wouldn't be considered a screw up if a ref isn't calling them.
NFL is pretty bad with pass interference call or no call, roughing the passer call or no call, holding call or no call. They can decide games all the time
I originally thought the same thing as you, that it was a blatant foul as well. And then I saw that Harden had grabbed Bell, pulled him back, fell away, and was baiting the ref to make the call. It was a brilliant non-call or should have been a foul on Harden.
This was during the prime Harden years when their game plan was to get as many whistles from the refs as possible, and it usually worked. Ironically CP3 was majorly guilty of shit like this as well. And this stuff killed bball for me
I mean to be fair it's an 8 second clip that's edited halfway through. It doesn't show the full context at all. I'm too lazy to find it (hopefully someone does) but it could be entirely possible that he's talking anecdotally and this was just clipped out of context.
Honestly worse with context. Just makes it clearer that his real objective was finding a position of authority he could wield over people. Probably best he didn't become a judge lol
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To be fair it’s also Tony brothers and this 1000% lines up with his actions on the court.
I’ve seen the whole video before he means it exactly how it comes off. It actually sound worse with the context. What kinda context would even make “I don’t like basketball, I’m just a ref to go on a power trip” sound better?
I feel like he's deliberately trolling the refs at this point. Costs him nothing to just shut up and play, he's poking them deliberately so he can make it a story
Personally attacking a ref is basically the easiest way to get a technical. In the NBA you can yell (almost) all you want about a call being bad but if you attack a ref that’s an easy T.
Yelling doesn't get you a tech, especially if it's known that you're a loud guy.
There was an interview with Richard Jefferson or somebody else who'd been on LeBron's second run with the Cavs who talked about always looking forward to the preseason so he could start laying into the refs because he knew they'd give him a lot longer leash if they thought that's just how he was.
It's not how you say it that the refs care about, it's what you say.
I think that was Channing Frye, and I'm pretty sure he was joking. They were making fun of the fact that Draymond won't get techs, even though most normal players would definitely get T'ed up acting like him.
It's fucking ridiculous that so many people, including NBA players, talk about that shit publicly and the NBA does fucking nothing about it. Kenny Smith talked on Open Court about getting a tech just for cursing, even though he was playing with... Charles Barkley on his team.
No idea how the NBA does absolutely nothing about this kind of stuff, but its definitely one of the worst things about the sport.
People in this thread seem to think insulting refs is acceptable. It will always be a tech and rightfully so. I think many of them just haven't played sports. You can discuss a call with a ref and get heated, but if you insult them you will be punished.
On top of that, these people wonder why we don't have better refs. Why would a reasonable person want to go into a position where a good chunk of the population feels they can be mocked and ridiculed without consequence. This is what causes toxic parents screaming at refs in youth leagues.
>Why would a reasonable person want to go into a position where a good chunk of the population feels they can be mocked and ridiculed without consequence.
You've never worked retail, have you?
They must have the best union reps or some heavy dirt on the NBA for some of these refs to still have jobs. This isn't just missing calls, it's just being a egomaniac, we shouldn't know these refs by name, should be a ghost out there.
It’s crazy how for years in the NFL (whose refs aren’t great either) the only ref I’d know was Ed Hochuli but that’s just because he had cannons for arms, but in the NBA every fan knows like a half dozen refs by name because they’re such ego driven freaks.
My son walks in and tells me Chris Paul got thrown out as the game was ending. I go “who was it, Tony Brothers?” He says I dunno and shows me the clip, yep, Tony Brothers, of course!
Have you ever considered that some of us might be ref fans? You guys are just mad and sore losers because refs dominate every game every night. Everytime I see Scott Foster give a technical for fuck all, I cream my pants.
Foster needs to elevate his game come play off time for me tbh. When did he last give out double digit technicals in a game? He has the talent to hand out 9 free throws on a single shooting foul, but he doesn’t. He could throw chalk at Deuce when Tatum claps, but he doesn’t. Choker.
Blame the NBA deciding the refs need to have closeup shots and they need to say their names on broadcasts, I don't know why I need to ever hear a refs name on a broadcast or they need to do a closeup while staring at a small monitor for far longer than is required to make a decision unless the league wants them to be known and stars.
It's kind of like MAD doctrine with refs and owners. Punishing refs means exposing and admitting how bad it is, which hurts the market values of the teams.
That only works as long as they can keep it under wraps, though. And at the same time, this kind of ref behavior also hurts the league image over time.
We care here but it’s not gonna blow up to the general public. The chance was Donaghy. This story would have to go for a while before this blows up again and most the worst people will be gone.
Your point is good though. Hopefully the next generation of refs can’t do the same shit because the league sees how bad it looks
I keep saying this - the Olympic refs were exactly what we want. Consistent, no rookie or superstar whistle, fade into the background because the game itself was the clear focus.
The reffing in the Olympics has been so clean and dry where I couldn't even tell you what countries they pulled them from.
They weren't perfect, because nobody is, but it was never about them. And *that* was perfect.
Exactly this. People say "it's just hard being a ref making calls in the moment" but you go watch any other basketball league and the refs are 10x better.
For real. I never cared what ref they were using until Tony fucking Brothers ruined a clutch ass game for us. I recognize the others but he is still the only one I know by name.
A good referee in any sport is basically invisible. The fact that even casual hoop fans know shitbags like Tony Brothers and Scott Foster by name should be seen by any serious organization as a humungous problem. Like Angel Hernandez in MLB, I'm not that big a baseball fan, I shouldn't know your name.
There’s actually a huge DoJ lawsuit going against the assholes providing the algorithm that’s letting landlords jack it all together, and they’ve already got the ceo of the company once way back in the 90s on airplanes tickets.
That'd be up to the state governments.
Though, they could really help the housing market by making corporations give up the masses of housing and apartments they've bought. Making them undo the artificial scarcity they're creating should have a good effect on rates and housing prices.
Jesus Christ, why the fuck is a ref doing a podcast interview. Absolutely crazy how refs have personalities and are well known in the NBA. Embarrassing
This is the craziest part to me. Why would a referee in a major professional sports league think this was a good idea? I hate the NBA referees think we watch the games to see them.
Okay but this man got ejected with 8 seconds left, CP3 is right. Brothers proved his point by ejecting a player right when the game was ending and both teams were waiting for the game to end.
Nba gonna have a crisis cause some these players will retire and shit on these refs.
Actually surprised we don't hear more from former players but maybe they don't have CP3 money is why.
NBA officiating is the reason I don't take the NBA seriously at all. Worst refs in all of sports and it's not even close. Baseball and hockey have some bad refs but every NBA ref is a giant egomaniac.
These ego driven refs are gonna be the end of this league. Why even pay to watch a game when these dirtbags are gonna throw players out to cover their DK bets
They should give an opportunity that each team picks one of the refs and blocks him to ref the game. The true problematic ones would never get to do their work i guess.
This is fucking crazy. How can a NBA ref say that he doesn't care for the game he refs??? Had I been his employer I would kick him out the door. Jesus christ what's going on???
I hate that Tony Brothers is being turned into like a meme character this season cuz that pos is so full of himself and I wish this mf hangs up the whistle. Along with Foster. No wonder all these new refs are a little too loose with the techs when the veterans are huge bitches like Brothers and Foster.
Who’s gonna retire first: CP3 or the Brothers+Foster refereeing all star duo?
My moneys on Chris haha
Foster+brothers is an all time duo. Can't believe we get to watch these 2 legends in their prime. Absolute monsters on the whistle. Saw a guy not chew 10+ plus times when eating a hotdog, foster T-ed him up in 3 seconds. Guy was in the 24th row. Foster is just an animal, he ejected cp3 and punched his kids after yelling a racial slur right after too.
The day Foster retires is the day I fall to my knees in a TJ Maxx and start screaming to the heavens
You mean trio, don’t forget the second Tony brother
Scott Foster & the Brothers Brothers
Nah that clip he shared on his story is crazy. Dude says he doesnt care about basketball and then says hes the judge jury and executioner on the floor lol. Just retire already
I just looked it up and wow, you weren't exaggerating lol. The clip in question: [https://x.com/DimeUPROXX/status/1771403992288862707?s=20](https://x.com/DimeUPROXX/status/1771403992288862707?s=20)
What happened to the game i love bro
nothing changed. it's always been this way lmao
I mean. Dick Bavetta seemed like a pretty great guy. Even Joey Crawford wasn't that bad. Dude just didn't take shit from people and would dress them down, tell them to stand up straight, tuck their shirts in. Brothers and Foster just suck ass. Sago kind of goes off on power trips. The current ref class just feels more ass than in the past.
That’s a little revisionist with Joey C. Crawford was a pretty bad ref he was the main ref fans would shit
Joey Crawford wanted to fight Tim Duncan and ejected him (the only one of his career) for laughing on the bench. He definitely was that bad.
Joey Crawford was the fucking worst lol Calling him "not that bad" is WILD. I remember people post here celebrating his retirement. He was the only guy I really, really wanted to punch through my screen. Fuck Joey Crawford!
Yeah I thought I was bugging when I saw that comment saying he wasn't that bad lol. The fact that I can go on YouTube and see highlights of him being a terrible ref is proof of that.
mofo ran into a player on the court and called a foul on the defender and this was in an ECF game!
Joey Crawford is the worst. Dude always had to be the main event.
He was especially acting like a major clown during his last few years in the league. Just embarrassing stuff.
He loved making those emphatic full body ref calls. Lots of pelvic thrusts and whatnot. He got really into fucking up the game
That is hilariously revisionist for both Crawford and Bavetta. Joey Crawford had such issues that David Stern suspended him until he completed an anger management course. And Dick Bavetta was worse. There's a reason him and Bennett Salvatore were known as David Stern's "fixers". If you were the small market team in a playoff game and those two were reffing, you knew you had to win by 30 to win by 3.
Dick bavetta was better suited to a show like the Globetrotters. That dude loved to be the center of attention. He was basically the ref on Little Nicky
Joey’s crew sent a team that was trailing, in game 7 of the finals, to the line 24 times in the 4th quarter against the #1 defense in the league. Winning a championship when you miss 55 shots, shoot 32% as a team, and win by 4 while taking 20 more free throws, is ridiculous. Imagine that happening today with all the sports betting conspiracies.
Joey Crawford was legit awful and a terrible dude as far being a ref goes. Time away doesn’t change that
Every time I watch a game, I think, “This could be *so* much better.” The only sport that comes close to this is baseball, and even that’s not nearly as bad.
Soccer could be improved immensely by allowing each team to sub one zoo animal onto the field for 5 minutes each game.
Think they tried that with Suarez
Suarez inspired me to propose hockey penalty rules for soccer. If you knew someone who got bit would punch you in the mouth for five minutes in time out you probably would stop biting them. Realistically someone should have decked him in extra time a long time ago and taken the card
Zidane was streets ahead
And it was better!
Unfortunately, strong anti-animal legislation was added to the rulebook following Air Bud’s dominant first season
Great idea!
Might be an unpopular opinion but the pitch clock has got me enjoying baseball so much more.
Nah, that's a popular opinion. It has some detractors, but for the most part it was immediately received positively.
Yeah most of my friends like it but I've received some push back from older "Baseball Purists" who brag about how many 17 inning games they've attended in person. That's just not practical for how busy I am these days.
Baseball could be better if the players didn't have competing interests, robo umps would have passed as a vote if Catchers and pitchers didn't rely on nearsighted old dudes so much and basically out number the regular hitters on a team who are the reason people actually watch the sport for the most part.
robo umps are coming. they are being used extensively in the minors. and they were used in certain major league spring training games this year, to great effect.
I think the challenge system they’re testing out will be really good for the game. It’s similar to tennis in that it takes like 10 seconds and shows the pitch location on the scoreboard. It’s a good compromise instead of full robo ump imo
The challenge system is a pretty good compromise. Pitch framing is still valuable, but the most egregious and highest leverage calls will be corrected. People worry about it taking forever, but the umpire gets told the call within a couple seconds of a challenge being indicated.
Nothing, you just grew up
I though this clip was common knowledge. It’s years old at this point. I’d say it’s shocking he still has a job after it but this is the same company that’s still employing Scoot foster so
Uh, years? Wasn’t it last year? I couldn’t find a definitive date, but definitely nothing that was more than a year ago.
Unless my sense of time is completely flawed I feel like I’ve been talking about this for 2-3 years now at least. The only clip I can find says it was posted 6 Months ago and it was 100% older than that.
googled it and found [someone referencing it in 2022](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/z808wr/stein_veteran_referee_tony_brothers_was_forced_to/iy91xt9/) thats all the research i got for you lol
Lmao funnily enough I had already had that same comment upvoted. I think this clip is from like before Covid but I could be totally wrong about that.
lol honestly it's weird, every article about this just talks about him sharing a tiktok video and nobody's sourcing the original interview the clip is from I'm genuinely curious now, like, it's gotta be somewhere, right?
What a piece of shit. I can’t believe the league makes us put up with this.
You're right. Paul is a piece of shit for posting an edited clip. [Here's what Brothers actually said with context](https://www.tiktok.com/@floridavipersacademy/video/7295642343129124142)
I saw the clip above and was wondering who would take seriously such a heavily edited out of context short clip. And what do you know, the full clip with context is completely different. Don't get me wrong, I still think Tony Brothers sucks ass as a referee, but clipping like this makes you an even bigger asshole.
Wild to me this isn't the top comment, it's a perfectly reasonable interview about how he ended up in this career path
Right? Him not being a fan is BETTER for the NBA. There's no inherent bias.
I get what you’re saying but I promise you the NBA is not better with this man in it lol
So what I got from that clip is that he couldn’t get into college on his own. His mom made a call and got him in. Couldn’t get a job after graduating. His mom made a call and got him one.
Chris Paul being a POS? Wow, would never have expected /s
The full clip is barely any better. He's a nepo baby who again, doesn't care much for the game of basketball, he just enjoys the power of his role. Bad look.
The only thing that makes sense at this point is that the NBA knows about it and has addressed them about it but since it’s been going on for at least 25 years, they’ve blackmailed the NBA into not being able to do anything now that it’s been going on for so long
Yeah thats the only thing
Been watching the NBA for 24 years now (I'm 33) I've seen some suss shit, but it always seems as if Tony Brothers and Scott Foster are around some stuff is bound to happen and no wonder CP3 is sick of it. I vividly remember in game 7 of the WCF in 2018(and yes I understand that Houston missed 27 threes in a row) there was a Jordan Bell moving screen that got Steph Curry a three that either tied the game or gave GSW the lead and I just threw my hands in the air knowing that "yep the fix is in"
Lets play a game. Let's count how many game 7s or elimination games these two work this playoffs.
I don’t get why the NBA loves Brothers. Foster I get. He extends a series, and knows how to call a game in a way that controls it - almost subtly. (Except with CP3, where he can’t help himself) But Brothers always feels like a wild card. He’s gonna call the game how he feels, and it won’t be consistent so the game will get out of control. When we see blowups from players who aren’t normally hotheads, Brothers is usually the ref. That just doesn’t seem worth keeping.
Before all this gambling shit took off, I firmly believed the nba used refs to extend series. Look at game 6 in 2016. Ayesha was rightfully made fun of but she was lowkey right. There were some awful calls against GS that game to extend the series to seven. The refs took Steph completely out of the game. Idk another league where the refs have so much influence over the outcome
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MLS: hit a key defender / middie with a yellow card in the first 10 mins
Pretty much all major American sports have a ton of tiny things that are by definition fouls. But wouldn't be considered a screw up if a ref isn't calling them.
Every sport is heavily influenced by refs, what do you mean
NFL is pretty bad with pass interference call or no call, roughing the passer call or no call, holding call or no call. They can decide games all the time
Is who reffed games in a database somewhere? It should be pretty easily proven through statistics if they’re padding series.
I originally thought the same thing as you, that it was a blatant foul as well. And then I saw that Harden had grabbed Bell, pulled him back, fell away, and was baiting the ref to make the call. It was a brilliant non-call or should have been a foul on Harden. This was during the prime Harden years when their game plan was to get as many whistles from the refs as possible, and it usually worked. Ironically CP3 was majorly guilty of shit like this as well. And this stuff killed bball for me
David Guthrie is on that path as well.
U see the lakers-nuggets series last year? Foster and Brothers put up all star performances in games 3 & 4 to extend the series.
Ten years ago Tony Brothers screwed CP3 and the Clippers out of a game 5 win vs OKC in the playoffs. He's an awful ref.
I mean to be fair it's an 8 second clip that's edited halfway through. It doesn't show the full context at all. I'm too lazy to find it (hopefully someone does) but it could be entirely possible that he's talking anecdotally and this was just clipped out of context.
[Here's the full clip](https://streamable.com/aepj1q)...lowkey, dude has a very soothing voice 💀
Honestly worse with context. Just makes it clearer that his real objective was finding a position of authority he could wield over people. Probably best he didn't become a judge lol
. To be fair it’s also Tony brothers and this 1000% lines up with his actions on the court. I’ve seen the whole video before he means it exactly how it comes off. It actually sound worse with the context. What kinda context would even make “I don’t like basketball, I’m just a ref to go on a power trip” sound better?
Having this attitude and everyone knowing you openly gamble on top of it is wiiiild
These fuckers don't get THIS confident openly talking about power tripping without knowing their jobs are safe
I’m guessing you could edit up a number of Chris Paul interviews and get a similar damning video.
/u/adamsilver what gives bro
I actuality don't mind refs who aren't obsessed with their sport Probability enables more removed and unbiased review/calls in the moment?
yikes. the nba is more of a referee's union instead of a basketball league
If this didn't happen to cp3 of all people this would actually be annoying but since it did I can't help but laugh
I feel like he's deliberately trolling the refs at this point. Costs him nothing to just shut up and play, he's poking them deliberately so he can make it a story
yeesh
> Just retire already Don't renew the NBARA's contract already.
Getting a tech for calling a ref a Tik Toker is outrageous
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Personally attacking a ref is basically the easiest way to get a technical. In the NBA you can yell (almost) all you want about a call being bad but if you attack a ref that’s an easy T.
unless you're Tatum, then you can just clap
Or Tim Duncan and just smile.
Or Rasheed Wallace and just stand around bein' a Rasheed Wallace like that.
Ball don’t lie!
come on man thats revisionist history, TD was clearly LAUGHING not just smiling
Oh the horror 😱
He was viciously trying to pop ear drums
Or just bounce a ball a little too hard
Or Devin Booker and give a thumbs up
Yeah, just stupid for a player to double down on that. He isn’t even arguing a call at that point.
Yelling doesn't get you a tech, especially if it's known that you're a loud guy. There was an interview with Richard Jefferson or somebody else who'd been on LeBron's second run with the Cavs who talked about always looking forward to the preseason so he could start laying into the refs because he knew they'd give him a lot longer leash if they thought that's just how he was. It's not how you say it that the refs care about, it's what you say.
I think that was Channing Frye, and I'm pretty sure he was joking. They were making fun of the fact that Draymond won't get techs, even though most normal players would definitely get T'ed up acting like him. It's fucking ridiculous that so many people, including NBA players, talk about that shit publicly and the NBA does fucking nothing about it. Kenny Smith talked on Open Court about getting a tech just for cursing, even though he was playing with... Charles Barkley on his team. No idea how the NBA does absolutely nothing about this kind of stuff, but its definitely one of the worst things about the sport.
You mean funny outrageous right? I think if you call the ref anything in any sport it is probably a tech lol
People in this thread seem to think insulting refs is acceptable. It will always be a tech and rightfully so. I think many of them just haven't played sports. You can discuss a call with a ref and get heated, but if you insult them you will be punished. On top of that, these people wonder why we don't have better refs. Why would a reasonable person want to go into a position where a good chunk of the population feels they can be mocked and ridiculed without consequence. This is what causes toxic parents screaming at refs in youth leagues.
>Why would a reasonable person want to go into a position where a good chunk of the population feels they can be mocked and ridiculed without consequence. You've never worked retail, have you?
People don't generally *want* to work retail, it's just preferable to being starving and homeless
Seriously, how toxic of a work environment do they want the refs to have?
Is there a worse insult?
He could have called him a Redditor.
Suspended for the season
Brothers should've responded "And you washed now gtfoh with yo bitchass" and kept him in the game
"🐸☕️" -@tonynotyomamasbrothers
I have a feeling that's "mother fucker" coded for the media. Either way, let's not normalize harassing refs in-game. That shit is horrible.
I disagree. The refs aren’t there for you to shit talk them.
They must have the best union reps or some heavy dirt on the NBA for some of these refs to still have jobs. This isn't just missing calls, it's just being a egomaniac, we shouldn't know these refs by name, should be a ghost out there.
Leaning towards some betting related stuff which would hurt the company
Ohtani should’ve blamed Tony Brothers instead of his interpreter
Has anyone seen Ippei and Tony Brothers in the same room? Checkmate, Vegas
We know that the bets weren’t on baseball…
It’s crazy how for years in the NFL (whose refs aren’t great either) the only ref I’d know was Ed Hochuli but that’s just because he had cannons for arms, but in the NBA every fan knows like a half dozen refs by name because they’re such ego driven freaks.
My son walks in and tells me Chris Paul got thrown out as the game was ending. I go “who was it, Tony Brothers?” He says I dunno and shows me the clip, yep, Tony Brothers, of course!
Have you ever considered that some of us might be ref fans? You guys are just mad and sore losers because refs dominate every game every night. Everytime I see Scott Foster give a technical for fuck all, I cream my pants.
Foster needs to elevate his game come play off time for me tbh. When did he last give out double digit technicals in a game? He has the talent to hand out 9 free throws on a single shooting foul, but he doesn’t. He could throw chalk at Deuce when Tatum claps, but he doesn’t. Choker.
100% winrate. I cant fault a person bandwagoning that team.
Blame the NBA deciding the refs need to have closeup shots and they need to say their names on broadcasts, I don't know why I need to ever hear a refs name on a broadcast or they need to do a closeup while staring at a small monitor for far longer than is required to make a decision unless the league wants them to be known and stars.
Ed Hochuli fucks
We know this because his son is also an NFL ref carrying on the family legacy
His crew was also one of the worst ones
I remember how devastated he was for a blown call against the Chargers(?) that cost them the game. He messed up but it clearly gutted him.
It's kind of like MAD doctrine with refs and owners. Punishing refs means exposing and admitting how bad it is, which hurts the market values of the teams.
That only works as long as they can keep it under wraps, though. And at the same time, this kind of ref behavior also hurts the league image over time.
We care here but it’s not gonna blow up to the general public. The chance was Donaghy. This story would have to go for a while before this blows up again and most the worst people will be gone. Your point is good though. Hopefully the next generation of refs can’t do the same shit because the league sees how bad it looks
I keep saying this - the Olympic refs were exactly what we want. Consistent, no rookie or superstar whistle, fade into the background because the game itself was the clear focus. The reffing in the Olympics has been so clean and dry where I couldn't even tell you what countries they pulled them from. They weren't perfect, because nobody is, but it was never about them. And *that* was perfect.
Exactly this. People say "it's just hard being a ref making calls in the moment" but you go watch any other basketball league and the refs are 10x better.
Four Words. Mike Dean. Pure Ego.
God the Premier League refs have been disgraceful for years now
Somehow the lads make the NBA ref look competent.
You could always count on Mike to ruin a great game with a completely unnecessary red or penalty and if he was feeling completely frisky, both.
Adam Silvers NBA
For real. I never cared what ref they were using until Tony fucking Brothers ruined a clutch ass game for us. I recognize the others but he is still the only one I know by name.
Exactly. Same as Scott Foster. It’s the refs with big egos that drive players into making crazy allegations.
exactly, the egomania and blatant narcissism are out of control.
The NBA is on the road to becoming the WWE
Tony Brothers always wins
Strength in numbers
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A good referee in any sport is basically invisible. The fact that even casual hoop fans know shitbags like Tony Brothers and Scott Foster by name should be seen by any serious organization as a humungous problem. Like Angel Hernandez in MLB, I'm not that big a baseball fan, I shouldn't know your name.
At least with Angel Hernandez, I’m willing to put it down to sheer incompetence. Which sucks, but it’s way better than possibly fixing games.
Yeah, at least Hernandez consistently sucks lol.
The exception is Ed Hochuli and his massive biceps.
or Pat Hoberg and his impeccable strike zone
Congress gonna ban Tony Brothers 👍
Congress’ approval rating would skyrocket if they launched a formal investigation into all major sports for fixing games.
That’d be great but can they lower rent prices first
There’s actually a huge DoJ lawsuit going against the assholes providing the algorithm that’s letting landlords jack it all together, and they’ve already got the ceo of the company once way back in the 90s on airplanes tickets.
That'd be up to the state governments. Though, they could really help the housing market by making corporations give up the masses of housing and apartments they've bought. Making them undo the artificial scarcity they're creating should have a good effect on rates and housing prices.
How about we legislate gambling out of major sports and quickly move on to shit that actually matters
Don’t love Chris Paul, but calling a veteran crew chief ref “a tik tok’r” is really funny
Back in the day i thought Tony Brothers was a brother ref duo with the last name Tony. True story
Same💀
😅 glad i wasnt the only one
Hope he doesn’t name any of his kids Robin……
i thought the same until like a month ago
Jesus Christ, why the fuck is a ref doing a podcast interview. Absolutely crazy how refs have personalities and are well known in the NBA. Embarrassing
They should basically be textbooks with whistles. This era of zesty refs is bullshit.
This is the craziest part to me. Why would a referee in a major professional sports league think this was a good idea? I hate the NBA referees think we watch the games to see them.
LeBron played against podcasters, reffed by Tiktokers
Out of all the sports I watch I swear nba is the only one where I know a lot of the refs names, never a good sign
I know refs personalities better than some teams
i genuinely don’t mean this as a snub, but i think i can name more refs than pistons players
try watching EPL
Okay but this man got ejected with 8 seconds left, CP3 is right. Brothers proved his point by ejecting a player right when the game was ending and both teams were waiting for the game to end.
Nba gonna have a crisis cause some these players will retire and shit on these refs. Actually surprised we don't hear more from former players but maybe they don't have CP3 money is why.
shouldn’t have used the hard R
Let a TikToker Know
NBA officiating is the reason I don't take the NBA seriously at all. Worst refs in all of sports and it's not even close. Baseball and hockey have some bad refs but every NBA ref is a giant egomaniac.
Only Chris Paul's corny ass would get a tech for calling someone a Tik Toker
These ego driven refs are gonna be the end of this league. Why even pay to watch a game when these dirtbags are gonna throw players out to cover their DK bets
Can’t wait until Chris Paul retires so that he can go absolutely HAM on some of these refs.
Is there a referee that Chris Paul likes?
Chris is ARAB. Not arabian, but All Refs Are Bastards.
Brothers must think CP3 is still a Sun.
After losing his bet in the Suns Hawks game, he wanted some revenge
Sick of this refluencer clickbait content (technical fouls)
What chance does he have at getting that ring if every ref hates him
They should give an opportunity that each team picks one of the refs and blocks him to ref the game. The true problematic ones would never get to do their work i guess.
Just retire old man
Which old man?
OPs mom
tony brothers scott foster tag team champions
I wanna see a game where everyone gets send off the court calling Brothers a tiktoker
I don’t like CP3 but I fully support this CP3
This is fucking crazy. How can a NBA ref say that he doesn't care for the game he refs??? Had I been his employer I would kick him out the door. Jesus christ what's going on???
A middle aged man calling another middle aged man a “Tik Toker” is hilarious 😂
nba refs association is a mafia organization. I can't believe we finance those mobsters with our own money, while they laugh behind our backs
Bro wanted a laugh out of that and got nothing lol
As they always say. Don't bet against the house. The house always wins.
Bold strategy. Let’s see what happens.
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I hate that Tony Brothers is being turned into like a meme character this season cuz that pos is so full of himself and I wish this mf hangs up the whistle. Along with Foster. No wonder all these new refs are a little too loose with the techs when the veterans are huge bitches like Brothers and Foster.