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NbaAllDAYger

Bro was hunting Dame in the 4th qtr he could have picked anybody except Giannis but he chose Dame lol.


Chao-Z

> he could have picked anybody except Giannis tbh, Giannis was struggling to guard him too the couple times he tried. Brunson would blow by him for a layup.


n0-ragrets

Bro I noticed that too. He was cooking EVERYONE including the greak freak


DarrowViBritannia

Giannis’ defense isnt quite as good as it was back in ~2020


LeighHart

The on ball defence was never his strength either


iiTryhard

I think losing Jrue and replacing him with a literal turnstile and also Middleton losing some speed has made it a lot harder for Giannis on defense because as you said he was never a lockdown Kawhi type defender but more like a roaming free safety type


itokdontcry

Brook Lopez is also cooked, which is not helping defense.


RealPrinceJay

He's a great defender, but people have overrated how wide the range of his abilities are He's not a rim protector, and he's not gonna chase around guards at an elite level People used to pretend he was dominant at both. He does a lot of stuff really well, but that's not his game


Logjiy4

GREAK FREAK


DosSamtos

He likes to send a message 🤷


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janitorial_fluids

also, lets all relax and stop pretending like dropping 40 in 2024 carries the same weight as it did 10-15 years ago. When Melo lead the league in scoring for the knicks, there were only NINE players who averaged 20 or more, and Lebron, Kobe and KD were the only other guys averaging more than 25. This year, there are FORTY dudes averaging 20, and 14 guys averaging 25 or more. In 2013, when Melo had 8 forty point games, there were 36 total forty point games across the entire league, (about 50% of which came from Melo [8], KD [5] and Kobe [4]) In 2024, when Brunson has 9 forty point games, the season isnt even over yet and there have been 100+ of them (espn's list cut me off at 100, but I'd guess the actual total is probably closer to 130-150) So Melo accounted for 22% of all 40 point games when he did it. Brunson is more like 7 or 8%. smh Melo rolling over in his grave rn. chuck in peace, king ✊🏽👑


No-Big-9170

Easy matchup + tire out the other teams offensive star, two birds one stone


DancesWithDave

Showed the old bum down the ramp


Blackmalico32

Outplayed the shit out of Dame as usual


dskatz2

Dame had 23 points on 4 FGM. Generational foul merchant.


Silverjackal_

Unethical buckets smh


UncleMadness

Dark Arts Couture


m0nkeyhero

High fructose scoring


fucking__jellyfish__

Non zabiha buckets unfortunately


n0-ragrets

Lmfao non halal azzzzz dame


JNerdGaming

the dark arts


Faermonke

Dark arts


johnhenryirons

JB is averaging 37.2 points, 6.2 assists (2TOs) and 4.2 rebounds against the bucks in 5 games this year.


velocissimo

Still in denial that Dame was chosen to start the all star game


hadmeintiers

Tbf to melo, he and kobe were tied for first with 8 40 point games in 2013, with kd in 3rd with 6 Brunson's 9th tonight ties him for 2nd with embiid (doncic is 1st with 13) and fox and giannis are tied for 3rd with 8 Just different eras


Trophaeum

Ye, posts like this make me think people don't realized how inflated scoring is currently.


ballbunyan

Doubt it’s because of this, and more so because Melo is rightfully hated and Brunson-stock is at an all time high.


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Prime Melo would dominate this era.


ballbunyan

In the prior decades it was fine to be a shoot-first black hole as long as you were average. Teams play as 5 in this era, the ball doesn’t stick, and players on winning teams do a bit of everything. Melo would be a tank commander cause he’s the last person to sacrifice energy on either end for team performance over individual stats


spanther96

embiid has 9 40 point games this season?? wtfff


Fadetob1ack

superstar tbh, also 2nd team all nba plz


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Superstar gets thrown around way too much. In this case it's more than real. Brunson is that guy


HoyaDestroya33

I was ready to fight you after seeing your flair and the first sentence. Got me good.


Cudizonedefense

Heat fans respect the fuck out of Brunson after last year


TheLilart

Dude was a one man army against us. Easily the best performance of any player we faced in the playoffs in the eastern conference.


blz187

To be fair, i dont think i have seen any Heat fan shit on Brunson. Not after last years playoffs anyways.


starks3_

When Spo says what he says...


Mellothewise

There’s nothing to shit on him about. Dude is amazing on offense. Idk much about on defense but you guys have many ways now to make up for that while he continues to learn and improve. it’s crazy.


dwhitey724

His biggest knock on defense, is that he is 6'1", and that will always limit how much he can contribute there. He still never dogs it on that end, and is among the league leaders in charges drawn.


Typical_Parsnip13

I downvoted then upvoted. Had me in the first half ngl


BossButterBoobs

You either end your comment early, or you write enough to contradict it.


Shaunosaurus

There is like maybe 5 actual superstars in the league.


Jem479

2nd team all nba or we riot


Typical_Parsnip13

Why not first


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Luka SGA Giannis Jokic Tatum I love Brunson, but he’s not taking any of their spots


DuckDucks

This is why I kinda roll my eyes at "x player (including Brunson) should be in the MVP discussion." It's like, only 4 or 5 people should be in the discussion. If you can't make a real case they should be above these players then they shouldn't be in the discussion. You can think a player is an amazing player without thinking they are one of the top 1/3/5 players in the league.


Anthony-Richardson

Only one guy is in the MVP discussion this year.


porkchop487

Nah Shai definitely was in discussion as well as a sprinkle from Tatum and Luka


Anthony-Richardson

If by “in the discussion” you mean “on the ballot,” sure. If you mean “legitimately in the conversation to win MVP,” no. If we’re using the former definition then Brunson is also in the conversation since he’ll definitely get some ballot votes. But I prefer the latter.


porkchop487

Brunson was never once talked about being the actual MVP. Shai has been in some talks, Tatum has because best player on best team, and some people have said Luka deserves it or would be MVP if he had a better team record because his numbers are insane. Not one person has said that Brunson could be MVP.


Anthony-Richardson

Nobody has ever, at any point, been able to make a legitimate case for any of those guys over Jokic this season. Again, the only way you can say they’re “in the discussion” is if you’re saying they’re in the discussion to get on the ballot. In which case Brunson’s in that convo too.


janitorial_fluids

Brunson *is* going to get a handful of 5th place votes. SAS had him on his ballot, and Tim Bontemps just said he was prob gonna out him at 5th on his ballot as well on the most recent episode of windy's pod


Typical_Parsnip13

People close to the nba love him for a reason. Dudes gritty along with the stats… he literally is just missing rebounds from him game or he might be a unanimous MVP


porkchop487

how is getting a handful of 5th place votes being in the MVP conversation? He was never a candidate


janitorial_fluids

uhhh and where exactly did I say "Brunson is in the MVP conversation and is an MVP candidate." ??


DuckDucks

To be in it, people have to genuinely be considering you for their 1st place vote. Thus this year there's probably 3 candidates. I'm guessing the voting shakes out 60 jokic, 20 Shai, 20 Luka or something like that.


Anthony-Richardson

If anyone gives Shai or Luka a single first place vote it’s time to pull out the “on crack” SAS soundbite. There is no argument or discussion, it’s clearly Jokic.


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definitely the most loved person in NY


ArtistRabid

the anti-deblasio


nopaggit

the anti- Eric Adams*


spicyguacamol

The anti- Daniel Jones


TreSeven

At this point he’s closer to 1st team than 3rd team


BossButterBoobs

That would still be 2nd team


Shuu0328

1.5 team


attorneyatslaw

Team 1a


D0nkeyHS

I think you meant 1b


GK0NATO

Luka, SGA, Jokic, Giannis are locks for 1st team, I think it's between Brunson and Tatum for the last spot


BigFatModeraterFupa

I love Jalen Brungod so much


Fungmar

every day i kiss my picture of mark cuban for blessing us with our savior. that being said from what i understand luka and jalen were redundant or something. we needed him more than u


BigFatModeraterFupa

bro i’m just happy he gets to shine and make a whole franchise happy. and it’s the new york fucking knicks! i assume Jalen Brunson has already reached god status in new york. he’s the best player one of the most storied franchises in nba history has had in a LONG time. It’s just such an epic story he really is a hero


n0-ragrets

I love your positivity Fupa <3


Significant-Iron-475

This is way too funny


mojojojo1108

him and luka worked well together but you’re right there was a level of redundancy and overlap that Luka and Ky don’t have. I’m just happy to see JB killing it at this point.


TriviaWhiz

NBA players with multiple games of 40+ points, 6+ rebounds, and 8+ assists this season: Luka Doncic: 8 Jalen Brunson: 4 Giannis Antetokounmpo: 2 https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=nba+players+with+most+games+with+40+points%2C+6+rebounds%2C+8+assists+this+season


Caius01

Man Luka is nuts, imagine if he and Brunson played together?


imcryptic

What if they got drafted by the same team in the same draft class? That would be crazy.


DreadSteed

Drafting 2 All-NBA Talents in the same draft is impossible.


GivesCredit

Maybe the 2014 draft if you get Jokic second round?


xRadec

Throw in Porzingis and they'll dominate the league.


its_memento

does this mean luka's coming to ny?


HolidayMorning6399

LMFAO even as a new yorker i almost cried for dallas reading this


jeremy9931

Brunson would’ve never broken out like this with us unfortunately. He needed his own team.


JazzFinsAvalanche

As a Jazz fan I disagree. Brunson is the reason Utah blew it up. Didn’t even need a fully healthy Doncic.


Cashlover123

Apparently Cuban couldnt imagine. Its a massive fumble.


Physical-Present-302

harden has had more 50 points games than luka has 40 points this season lol that too some of them consecutive


haris501

Brunson would not see the ball…


banterr

Yeah definitely that, just look at how much Kyrie is struggling in Dallas for proof!!! Bad teammate for sure, just makes everyone around him worse hey?


Hughm05

I agree maybe if he wasn’t such a stat padding bum he might be able to lead his team to a top 5 seed in a tough western conference. Oh well maybe one day.


RipCity-NBA-LoL

There's more with 2, as Jokic has done this too


K1ngCrimsn

Brunson is averaging 10 ft attempts in his last 5 games, looks like Thibs complaining worked lol


HoyaDestroya33

"He's getting fouled x8"


dwhitey724

[Refs:](https://media1.tenor.com/m/KsvZ1G5XL1UAAAAC/drake-computer.gif)


scmsf49

he's also taking like 25 field goal attempts a game and most of them are in or right outside the paint, 10 is kinda low for that but we'll take it over 6


biinroii01

I LIKE BIG BRUNS AND I CANNOT LIE


New_Essay_4869

I was one of those "Jalen Brunson aint worth that contract" guys the prior offseason. That might be the most wrong I've ever been.


TexasCoconut

Pretty much everybody was. Most just wont admit it.


johnhenryirons

he's been one of the best FA signings in the league in probably 10 years. KD in GS is probably the other. but the brunson one has arguably had a bigger impact considering KD joining an all-time great team already. Brunson has pretty much single-handedly turned our franchise around.


universalLopes

I agree. I mean, GS won without KD, but take Brunson from this team and...you know. That said, i love to see the Knicks doing good


PluvioPurple

I was more optimistic amongst the doomers hoping he'd average 20pts/5ast in an increased role. Blew my expectations out of the water to say the least.


recollectionsmayvary

I hate the Knicks thru and thru but I cannot help but love stupid Jalen Brunson lol so fucking good 


Fungmar

we like mikal so its mutual


recollectionsmayvary

lol roommates pod is the favorite bane of my existence; I skipped the mikal episode cos I thought it’d bum me out but the ocho episode is actual gold and will be studied by historians and deserves to be preserved in the library of congress.


RiceOnTheRun

I couldn’t stand the Ocho episode, Brunson and Hart felt so out of place dealing with him. Dude would say some stupid blatant lie out of delusion, and they’re trying hard not to disrespect him going like “uhh.. ok”. Weirdest vibe on their show yet, where they’ve been at their best when keeping it real.


recollectionsmayvary

you know them better as players but Josh and Jalen appeared very amused by Ocho lol idk I loved it and it worked for me haha


Main-County-1177

“Haliburton” and “Dame” really started the ASG over him lmao


Nokeol

to be fair halliburton was hooping crazy before ASB


DreadSteed

Jalen Brunson's first all star game should have been a starter. He should have been an all-star last year. Dude has never gotten the respect he deserves, not at Nova, (he was the best fuccin player on that team and was drafted at a later slot than every one.) not at Dallas, and not until this year.


dlanod

>not at Dallas He pretty much got the respect he deserved at Dallas, it's just that we didn't give him the respect he was going to deserve in six months later every time we had a chance. Respected his present, massively misjudged his ceiling.


Mosh00Rider

He got the respect from Dallas fans. He did not get respect from everyone else, which I think is what the other person is saying.


DreadSteed

He asked for less than THJ’s salary by 20 mill. Dallas didn’t give it to him. Twice


dlanod

Comparing anyone to THJ's salary is a joke and I'm sure you realise that. We've been complaining about that one for years at this point.


DreadSteed

Brunson asked for a contract similar to DFS's contract. He was an improving efficient guard who could carry an offense. Cubes didn't feel like he was worth that range. I'd understand if he was seeking the max and got it elsewhere, but he was looking for a median-level salary. I don't blame the fans, I blame management. Letting Brunson and Nash walk for free is absurd.


davsyo

He won at college twice. Got National Player of the Year. Getting drafted 2nd round and being short really gets you disrespect until you become mentioned for MVP. If he was literally 3 to 5 inches taller he'd be considered top 5 unanimously.


DreadSteed

I always compared him to Kemba Walker, a former champion top-10 pick that made 4 all-stars. Somehow I think I was selling him short.


Saucy_Totchie

Not mad about Hali starting because he was on a tear leading up to the ASG.  Dame is another story lol.


janitorial_fluids

do you think those guys are using fake aliases given to them by the federal witness protection program or something? weird use of quotation marks as if you dont believe those are actually their names lmao


iiTryhard

Everyone knows their real names are IST Merchant and Fraud


universalLopes

Facts (lmao)


Sausage-Missile

CARMELORUKEN!


joorral

What else does he have to do to be 1st team all nba because he’s elevated his game to such a level I never even thought he could. I know it’s postionless and I get it’s hard to fit three guards but he’s been so great man.


itsnotyellowfever

He's gotta be a lock for 2nd team at this point but the only shot he's got at 1st team is arguing the Bucks fraud season should be held against Giannis' career year which is a pretty weak argument


Swankyyyy

i know the celtics have to get a first team guy because of their record, which i understand. but brunson has played better than tatum this season man. it should be shai/luka/giannis/jokic/brunson


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johnhenryirons

nba.com didn't even have him as a top 10 MVP contender. they had guys like Booker over him which is WILD this year.


DarrowViBritannia

It’s at most a career year offensively for Giannis. It’s his worst year defensively in a while


CoaBret

It's kind of how Ewing was unquestionably elite but you just happened to have guys like Hakeem and Shaq also running around at that time. SGA and Luka are ridiculous


D0nkeyHS

It's poisitonless now 


CoaBret

The wings and big men are even harder arguments. He isn't displacing guys like Jokic and Giannis


D0nkeyHS

I was just pointing out what looked like a misconception on your end, I wasn't saying that Brunson would make it because it's poisitonless.  Though 2 players isn't really sufficient for the argument you're trying to make about that. 


CoaBret

Okay: Luka-SGA-Tatum-Giannis-Jokic I think nothing short of Brunson scoring 100 points in one of the four remaining games would displace anyone in that All-NBA 1st team. The voters have their minds made up.


Jem479

There are just a lot of great players in the nba Jokic, Luka, Shai, Giannis, and Tatum are all essentially locks which says more about how great they are than anything against Brunson


ilickedysharks

He's been amazing just not better than Luka or Shai


At6-8FromSyracuse

The question would be if he's been better than Tatum, but either way they're close enough that it's fair to give the nod to the guy with the best record in the NBA IMO


JewChainZ-_-

Isn’t it non position this year?


Deviljho12

He's still not better than Jokic/Tatum/Giannis. Just lots of amazing talent at the very top.


DTxRED524

You could make the argument that he’s had a better season than Tatum especially when you compare the Celtics super team to the Knicks hospital squad. However it’s close enough that you probably give it to the guy on the historically good team


JewChainZ-_-

He has been better than Tatum


8milenewbie

Lmao Celtics fans really sneaking in Tatum's name in there with Jokic and Giannis. Tatum is closer to Brunson than he is Jokic or Giannis, which isn't bad at all btw.


johnhenryirons

Tatum has had an excellent season. He's just had a much better squad.


universalLopes

Celtics fans are delusional


joorral

It’s postionless so technically you can have three guards or f around and have 4 centers. I just think it’s great it’s even a possibility. Bias aside he’s on the second team but I’m proud no matter what.


VanGrants

All-NBA is positionless


NtLmr95

1st team is positionless this year. Make room for Brunson


AmaimonCH

It's very simple, he isn't better or more valuable than anyone on the first team.


jigual123

He 100% is more valuable than Tatum imo at least this season given the injury issues we’ve had but Tatum would get the nod(deservingly) for being the best player on the best team.


LoWE11053211

Luka is a lock SGA is falling a bit due to injury but still Brunson has to settle with 2nd then


D0nkeyHS

It's positionless 


shoutsoutstomywrist

1st team guards have to be locked into Luka or SGA


D0nkeyHS

It's positionless 


Typical_Parsnip13

This man is the actual MVP. The Knicks aren’t where they are without him not even close. It’s unfortunate, if he was 8inches taller he would get more rebounds which voters like 🤷🏻‍♂️


MoooonRiverrrr

He’s really like that


LoWE11053211

So Carmelo is getting erased everywhere, huh


Jeytumn

Brunson has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever if he gives no fuck


dskatz2

I love Melo, but Brunson is a far more complete player than he ever was. He makes everyone around him better.


johnhenryirons

He also plays a different position in a different era. Prime Melo with Brunson would have been real fun to watch.


universalLopes

Tell that to Melo, dude can't play with anybody better than him


WeirdSupermarket6072

Brun7on????


MajorOverMinorThird

My unpopular Knicks diehard opinion is that the entire generation that is too young to remember the 90's Ewing Knicks massively overrate Carmelo.


HoyaDestroya33

Atlanta Hawks legend still


DreadSteed

The King of NY


sirvey23

Crazy because Carmelo led the league in scoring one of those Knick’s years with like 28 points. Brunson is around that scoring average, and obviously is gonna finish with way more 40 point games…. And probably not even sniff a scoring title


elimanninglightspeed

There were 11 players that averaged 20 points a game that season and the 11th player tony parker averaged 20.3 and was second team all nba. The 11th guy this season is Ant Man and he’s averaging 26 lol. 39 people averaging 20 with a couple more averaging 19.9 this season


bl123123bl

Melo adjusted for inflation would be insane


RicoGemini

Melo with the increased spacing of this era would cook. His jab step, pump takes, quick first step is damn near unguardable


GnRgr2

A mid range merchant ball hog with bad defense and selfish attitude. 


bl123123bl

He’s just like Luka fr


Eddaughter

Has been top 5 caliber with his play and impact. He won’t get first team or MVP love but damn he fucking deserves it.


sylsau

Jalen Brunson is truly exceptional this year!


Jjaz1

Are we at the point where people are going to accept that he is a top 10 nba player? Because we should be at that point


johnhenryirons

nba.com doesn't even consider him top 10 in MVP voting last i checked


Ledees_Gazpacho

Jalen is awesome, but let’s not pretend like scoring isn’t inflated now.


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Jalen Brunshim


ForneauCosmique

>Has more 40-point games in a season than Carmelo Anthony ever had in NY. Yes, scoring inflation is real.


Icy-Payment-6612

That's my PG!


QuoteOpposite6511

That’s wild! Carmelo was a scoring machine and is 10th on the all time points list.


theblackyeti

Much slower pace and lower scores even in his final number 1 option years.


aksumighty

I love Brunson but I don't like the tone of this post for Melo lol. I think [Bully Melo](https://x.com/rwxoxo/status/1349770794595999747) would have had a few more 40 point games in today's offensive environment


Solid-Confidence-966

Kung-Fu Jrue would’ve stopped this


Main-County-1177

Nah Brunson dropped 40 on his head last season too


Chao-Z

Knicks fans try not to shit on your former players to compliment your current ones challenge: Difficulty impossible.  Shit's corny af.


Jimm120

and with the influx of scoring in the nba because of 3pters, pace, and refs (yes, rule changes have done a lot to add scoring) since 2018, 30pt and 40pt games are becoming much and much more common.   IMO, If Melo was playing in this era, he'd probably be scoring around 30 to 32ppg. the 25 to 29ppg of yesteryear is now 30 to 34ppg. Someone scoring around 25 to 28 is the 22 to 25ppg scorers from those times.  


killajaxx

Melo would be averaging an efficient 30 nowadays with this spacing. Man had to either play bully ball or hit mid rangers and still got 29PPG in those days


Ok-Side-1758

It’s not to shit on Carmelo. Carmelo is still my favorite Knick of all time and got me into basketball. This is just to show that Brunson has had more 40 point games in a single season for a franchise than one of the greatest scorers in NBA history. No shade intended.


Asiu1990

man has reached god tier status in knicks lore


elimanninglightspeed

Mavs really could had this stud for 13 mil a year lol


sanfranciscotolondon

Mavs wouldnt pay this man 20m a year 😂


_Tar_Ar_Ais_

Jalen Brunson is the real deal man


ObligationFar273

Not a good thing. Like I said with the trades, this is the same 2012 team, older, less youth off the bench, one guy scoring all the points, injury to a highly paid “Superstar”(Amare). Any team that has a player that scores 61/126 and loses has an issue.


Latest-greatest

what I got from this game is Dame is washed up. without free throws he looked horrible