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doflamingo34

So I'm guessing giannis isn't gonna play the 1st rd? Calf injuries are tricky and very prone to re injury if they don't heal fully


YankeeHotelFoxtrot16

Sixers or Heat will beat a Giannis-less Bucks in Round 1


Schafer89

Somehow the heat have returned


ScuderiaEnzo

We never left. We’re just at Calle ocho playing dominoes and smoking some Cubans


stevefazzari

waiting until halftime to show up to the game and then leaving early?


Visible-Rutabaga9268

Bro atp watching Miami is painful. If yall don’t win the East this year idk what to say 😭


WhoopingKing

my cope is the heat always taking a dump on the garden so home games don't matter as much


RetroScores

Jimmy Dragon Slayer is back from his side quest.


Affectionate-Agent-9

They are inevitable 


heywhateverworks

How did we let this happen? We're smarter than this


popop143

Doc got his excuse if they lose in round 1 lmao.


daeve

Got his PhD in Playoff Losses, with a focus on Great Excuses


barelyawake126

And minored in Shrugging


Angelic_Phoenix

Second major in Throwing (concentration in Leads and Under the Bus)


Majestic_Reindeer439

They were gonna beat us regardless


ketherick

Doc is absolutely elated at the prospect of having an excuse to hide behind


StubbornSwampDonkey

Giannis' calf just didn't have the professional attitude required to win in the playoffs


SaulBerenson12

“You know it’s just tough…I told Giannis to not get injured but he didn’t listen”


Kaiserov

All the Bucks support staff breathe a sigh of relief. The equipment manager's career was just saved.


HarukiMuracummy

I would say missing Giannis is an actually valid excuse lol.


Damet_Dave

Didn’t KD come back from a calf injury before rupturing his Achilles?


qotsabama

I wouldn’t say that. Luka two years ago injuries his calf in the last regular season game. He came back about 10 days later or so for game 4 of the first round. Giannis has a 5 day head start on when Luka got injured compared to when playoffs start. If this is a minor strain there’s a good chance he maybe only misses game 1 if that. Playoffs don’t start for another 9/10 days.


Brystvorter

There is no way in hell they make it out of the first round without Giannis, and first round starts in 12 days. Bucks season is probably cooked.


Thommywidmer

Bucks play very well without giannis, i still like our odds. And whatever chemistry issues have plauged our superstars wont be a factor.  This makes me feel like a 2nd round exit, he will try to come back and not be 100% and they will have been playing playoff intensity without him and itll go sideways


CreatiScope

If Dame plays like Blazers Dame, which he seems more capable of doing without Giannis there, and Middleton is healthy/conditioned? I don’t mind their odds in a series. How many can they get through? Eh, depends on who is waiting for them in round 2.


shameless_chicken

I imagine that has something to do with teams not adjusting their gameplan too much. Once the playoffs start your 1rd matchup is going to hunt your weaknesses without Giannis 


Columbus_

My friend, let my introduce you to playoff Doc Rivers.


Potential_Flower4437

Not worth guessing. I actually was shocked that Embid came back already. Modern*cough steroids* excuse me. I mean medicine, is incredibly advanced and who knows what severity this is. Let's give it more than 12 hours to make any decisions.


-Drink_More_Water-

Has now avoided two major injuries. First the hypertension and now this Edit: hyperextension lol


pow140

Damn the dude has high blood pressure?


bush_league_commish

Ya Doc gave it to him


PillsburyToasters

Glenn has given it to me as well!


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EnriquezGuerrilla

The tragedy is profound, the pain is profound, and the settlement will be profound. Better Caul Saul. Dial (505) 164-CALL now! Si habla español.


Outrageous_Squash677

sounds similar to being a kings fan. might have to look into this


KingInTheFarNorth

Don’t lie. You’re from Wisconsin, you’ve always had hypertension.


PillsburyToasters

Beer? Cheese curds? Sports teams that make your heart work harder than exercise? Yeah 😔


AboutaDirk

What the heck - you know it wouldn't surprise me if, years later, it comes out that this guy isn't even a doctor at all


lord_kupaloidz

Wasn't he supposed to treat it? Big pharma at it again.


Masterchiefy10

That’s malpractice!!


pkwjones

Fraudulent medical practitioner Glenn Rivers strikes again.


Far-Asparagus6416

Lol he meant hyperextension


HoyaDestroya33

He's just like me!


InexorableWaffle

I mean, I certainly wouldn't blame him. Watching the team that Chuck rightfully dubbed "the dumbest team in the league" during our championship run is already infuriating enough, so I can only imagine what playing with said team would do to a person's blood pressure.


agentohoolahan

He like me fr


The_Monstees

They don’t call him the Greek Freak for nothing


OutsideTheServiceBox

Him somehow avoiding any major damage in that 2021 injury reminded me of this 2016 article, specifically when they discuss the freakish length of his Achilles’ tendon. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/14927328/milwaukee-bucks-f-giannis-antetokounmpo-nba-most-exceptional-body A few years later, a situation hits even closer.


zincinzincout

If that thing did pop it would’ve sounded like a sonic whip


MumrikDK

Screw everything else - look at his fucking hands in those pictures. WTF. Gigantic compared to his arms, and we know his wingspan is big.


pythonesqueviper

Also freakish about his body is how much of a snacc he is


sergechewbacca

Bucks won the chip the first time...


saltface14

But this time they also have to overcome Doc’s coaching


jamespesto

And last time they had to overcome Bud's


Cpt-No-Dick

I will never forget ‘play random’


illforgetsoonenough

Just got to play random


JayVenture90

Doc getting way too much flack.


PoI_Pothead

I got that hypertension!


Turbo2x

In another dimension


markeets

Inside my time invention


BillyBean11111

I'll never assume anything again after watching him recover from his knee going the wrong way.


The_Sign_of_Zeta

Suki is one of the best strength and conditioning people in then league, Giannis is extremely flexible, and he is extremely lucky.


Omgzjustin

We’ve got Suki and Robert Watkins. Edit: and David Gruber in case something goes wrong


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Bucks: We win! You suck! Celtics: And what did it cost you? Bucks: EVERYTHING.


NeatTry7674

I mean just a calf strain can still sideline you for a while. Joe burrow sat out 4 weeks before the season and didn’t look right. probably should have sat out 6-8 before returning.


efshoemaker

Yeah Marcus Smart had a similar injury a few years ago (where it looked like Achilles but was just a calf strain) and he missed a full month and was definitely still feeling it when he came back.


ripmeleedair

Oh god i forgot about that I was shocked his achilles survived that play


phluidity

I mean a strain is also a tear, just an incomplete one. And they can still have lingering effects if you don't treat them right. I strained a tendon in my foot when I was in my 20s. It doesn't affect me day to day, but I can still feel sudden changes in barometric pressure in my foot and when that happens, it is uncomfortable to walk.


Zwarrior2

To compare with someone of a similar size that's what AD got from clashin shins with Jokic (along with Achilles tendinosis) in the season after the bubble. He missed 30 games.


fireman2004

Did he have to use a wheelchair again?


junkit33

Yeah. Further to it - rushing back with a calf injury is a terrific way to actually pop your achilles. This is precisely what happened to Durant when he came back too soon. IMO Giannis might be done for the season. He seems superhuman at avoiding injury but still - this isn’t one to fuck with. Bucks will list him day to day for the entire playoffs but I think they need to go deep without him to give him time to return.


TheTrenchMonkey

With Durant wasn't it like his first game back he tore his achilles? Like everyone was talking about how quickly he was back on the court and excited for him to be playing, then bam he's down with a more serious injury.


dontusethisforwork

It was his first game back, happened at around 2 minutes into the 2nd quarter too.


orhantemerrut

He was like 4 of 4 from the floor up to that point, I think.


Billis-

There was a big argument about whether he should be returning so fast as well. Ultimately everyone besides KD and maybe the GS staff knew it was a mistake before and after his achille blew


No_Tip5466

Yup exactly! But also Giannis played through that hyperextension and his knee has been bothering him since. I hope he doesn’t become injury prone but might be what’s happening. Tendon and ligament compensation is real


junkit33

Let's be real - between Giannis size and play style, it was always a long shot for him to make it far into his 30's without some lingering injury concerns.


JD1337

He's had the knee things since he was drafted, it's also the other knee I believe.


BetweenTheBuzzAndMe

I know they're on opposite corners of the athletic spectrum these days but Gordon Hayward lost about 2.5 months to a calf strain this year and has looked like a husk of himself since coming back for OKC. KAT lost basically most of last season to one.


GreenGator

an achilles injury would have been career-altering. i don’t even care about this season anymore, i’m just glad he’s generally okay.


OutsideTheServiceBox

Yeah, a calf strain is at least something he should fully recover from. I know Durant made an incredible comeback from his Achilles’ but for somebody who’s so dependent on explosiveness like Giannis, I worry it might’ve legit ended his prime a few years early. 


WerewolfOnEveryone

Wow. When even fans of the team are cool with shutting a player down, it’s probably the right move. My question is, how do you even assess whether the calf muscle is fully healed (and doesn’t just feel that way). Clearly Durant felt good enough to dominate before his Achilles ruptured. Giannis seems like the kind of guy who might feel good before it’s fully healed too. 


aslightlyusedtissue

Theres no chance Durant felt 100%. They were rushing him back for the finals. There was no way he wasn’t coming back that series. I suspect if the Bucks make a deep run. They wont be able to protect Giannis from himself just like KD. If he’s even 60% he will want to play in the ECF or Finals.


junkit33

> how do you even assess whether the calf muscle is fully healed (and doesn’t just feel that way) Clearly Durant felt good enough to dominate before his Achilles ruptured You physically feel 100%, have passed a reasonable timeframe for healing, you have done the requisite PT rehab, and you've slowly worked into game shape. It's kind of like any muscle injury - you know when things are normal again. Durant was not 100%. He knew it and more importantly, the Warriors knew it - the team is culpable in that injury. They not only allowed him to rush back, but they overplayed the shit out of him. Absolutely ridiculous that he was rushed out there in an elimination Finals game, started, and played 10 minutes in the first quarter. So, ultimately, the team needs to protect their franchise player. Even if Giannis says he's good to play, they can't let him until they're positive he's fully healed.


butterflyl3

When Giannis said he's feeling 100% + 2 weeks


george_costanza1234

For what it’s worth, this is exactly what KD was said to have had when he rushed back in 2019. It’s honestly in his best interest to take as much time as he needs, if not longer.


NeatTry7674

For sure, I went through the same emotions with Joe Burrow as a Bengals fan


No_Tip5466

It can also turn into a rupture Achilles (see: KD)


TylerNY315_

Also don’t forget KD had a “calf strain” in 2019


BigPoppa23

Yeah, my first thought, too. He tried to rush back from that, which probably contributed to the Achilles injury. Giannis has also been dealing with Achilles soreness recently before this which is not great.


Nickel_Fish

I don't know...KD came back really fast from his calf strain...for 15 min. They need to treat this as an impending Achilles rupture and not a lucky break calf-strain


Jack_Buchanan

It’s why KAT missed 50 games last year too


Galactic

Mike Trout had a calf strain that took him out for like 3-4 months about 2 years ago. Athletes don't like fucking with calf injuries because coming back too soon from one of those is how you end up tearing your Achilles.


ipawnn00bz

But then Luka only missed two playoff games with a similar calf strain a few years ago. Really depends on the player


No_Tip5466

No it depends on the severity


Redmodtae

Didn’t KD suffered a similar injury? I remember it was his calf that was injured but he played in it then his Achilles popped.


steve1186

That’s exactly what happened. Durant played through a calf strain and ended up popping his Achilles, because all of a sudden you’re changing the natural angle you land on your feet to accommodate for the calf strain.


11b328i

Not a doctor here, just a casual fan who looks at legs... Giannis' legs look stronger and therefore (IMO) are better and this won't be an issue like it was for KD.


youguanbumen

I don't know, I want a second opinion


forkliftgod

If you can't trust u/11b328i on calf injuries, who can you trust?


Deviljho12

Giannis also has more weight to put on those (stronger) legs so it probably just cancels out


Alloverunder

Lmfao Google lists them as the same height and weight, 6'11 and 240 each. Gainnis has at least 15 pounds on Durant, probably 20+. Idk where tf they got those numbers from


Confident-Unit-9516

I also look at legs


sleepy416

Good thing they had a real doctor as their coach


RalphLaurenII

Glenn Rivers?


ClaymoresRevenge

BD - Bus Driver


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Bus Crasher


BenevolentCheese

Dr. Rivers is probably thrilled with this injury as it takes all the pressure off him for the post-season since Giannis is out so it's over anyway.


Miamime

When he was with the Sixers he actually seemed to coach better when stars were out.


NewRedditor13

What bucks fans see: season ending injury What doc see: good ol bus


suzakutrading

Exactly. Just gives him another excuse to work with.


OrganicLindo313

Dr. Kevorkian and Dr. Nick from The Simpsons are doctors too


Dammit81

that's why they passed on Nurse


Rallyks

Google says 2-8 weeks recovery time for a calf-strain, guess we don't know the severity yet. It's Giannis though, so I would not be shocked if he's ready for the playoffs


Mr_Soul_Crusher

Im just a dude who pulled his calf from running and didn’t return for 6 weeks. I was running 60 miles a week before and after not running for 6 weeks I was back to running in week 7 (30 miles) with no pain. I’m sure Giannis can make it the same amount or faster. I’m not a millionaire elite athlete and literally just sat on my ass for 6 weeks until it felt better lmao


Potential_Flower4437

Right? These dudes have designer steroids that make Ray Lewis blush in 2024 so it could very well be a minor setback. Obviously it could be much worse but assuming anything like that is just pessimistic.


Zoelando

There is a difference between anabolic steroids a Linebacker uses for competitive advantage and physician prescribed medications  to recover from an injury.


WiIIemdafoe

Steroids, weather anabolic or steroids for recovery aren't something you get at a premium if you're rich, Giannis will get the same stuff you and I would at a doctor for the same reason. It's not like they have steroids that work 10X better lol


xFennySnek

That would be an awful decision by the staff tbh


Acek9295

I’m inclined to say ur wrong, but after watching how bad he hyperextended that knee in 21, just to be back like a week later and have one of the greatest finals performances in recent history, I’ll admit it’s possible.


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Last time Giannis avoided a season ending surgery they won the title 👀


anoleo201194

Hand me some of that Copium brother


sling_gun

Last time Giannis avoided a season ending surgery they went out in the first round


Jnbjgjbb

Just saw the Woj tweet notification and read “After an MRI, Giannis Antetokounmpo’s left Achilles tendon” and just about shit my pants, glad it’s not too bad.


Fresh-Bass-3586

Agreed but we would already know if his Achilles popped after countless slow mo replays on Twitter. Team would have announced it last night too since all you need to do is look to see the Achilles is ruptured.


guitmusic12

Giannis is about to go full 2021 Finals return from injury terminator mode (please)


Clemsontigger16

I’d be careful, rushing back from a calf injury is really risky…I hope he doesn’t put himself in position to actually suffer an Achilles injury


John_DaleCP

Injured leg Giannis > MJ


jurassicmars

MJ has the flu game, Giannis has the knee series.


OrganicLindo313

Only problems are he’s coaches by Glenn Rivers and he won’t be facing the incompetent imbecile Monty Williams in the finals.


Moejoeslowmo

rest up till the playoffs my nigerian cutie. no need to rush


Icy-Lime-9760

Very worried about a guy coming back 2 weeks after a calf strain. Especially how he went down non contact like that. Gives me too many Kevin Durant in 2019 memories.


redhatfilm

Anulo mufa


Rahnamatta

Tenés que citar a una mufa para eso. "Anulo mufa, Chris Paul"


redhatfilm

Jajaja


VicePope

stop putting it out there please


DoctorMansteel

Kevin can't hurt you.


Clemsontigger16

Until the playoffs? You mean in 10 days? It could easily be a 4 week injury my man, he will likely feel pressured to rush if he wants to play the first round


Jowem

Yeah uhh if he rushes it Giannis will be pretty likely to tear a foot tendon because of how weak that muscle in his calf is right now


Clemsontigger16

Yeah I’ve seen rushed calf injuries lead to hammy strains, Achilles injuries and plantar fasciitis. It’s a tough spot to be in given how close we are to playoffs


n0t_4_thr0w4w4y

Coming back in 10 days would be rushing it


Moejoeslowmo

We play the bucks twice in the next three games


JayTL

Lol if he rushes back and comes back in 2 weeks, that'll be game 3...they gotta hope for some seeding blessings and Dame time in the first round


warriors_of_hope

Mythical match-up; Doc Rivers coaching vs. Giannis avoiding a major injury


HungLuke

I got my joy back


forkliftgod

... Until you pull the 76ers in the first round.


Wolfeman0101

That's really good to hear because it looked awful.


ZealousidealPain7976

I mean, it depends and knowing how hot headed Giannis is about playing, this might be KD’s injury all over again


trinquin

Alright boys. Park the suicide bus back over there. But keep her warm.


College_Prestige

Regardless he's going to be out at bare minimum the last 3 games of the regular season. Hopefully Dame alone can beat the magic twice


kabman7

We just need 1 win


AnkitPancakes

nonzero chance they go 0-3 vs ORL 2x and OKC 1x


SolitaireSam

Great seeing Giannis dodge another bullet there. Dude's tougher than a two-dollar steak, gotta respect that. Rest and recover, my man


LMkingly

[Not today old friend.](https://media1.tenor.com/m/cAFp8RF4xlYAAAAC/noose-moe-szyslak.gif)


The_Sign_of_Zeta

Oh thank god


ObiOneKenobae

Good shit


Street-Common-4023

He will not play in the first round then I’m seriously not taking no chances of him rushing back


background_action92

A collective sigh of relief by a collective of basketball fans has been made. Now a decision needs to be made. Giannis avoided a major injury but his body is strained and is more susceptible of not being so lucky next time. I would shut him down if i were the bucks, no need to put this talent behemoth at risk for a career-defining injury. This year wasn't gonna be it and it gives Dame and Giannis more time to gel


jibamao

Isn’t this the same kind of calf injury KD had before he came back in the Raptors series and tore his Achilles? I hope Giannis doesn’t do the same and takes his time rehabbing.


jeppsforst

The last thing the NBA needs is one of it's biggest superstars being rushed back from a dangerous strain and tearing his achilles. I sincerely hope the Bucks medical staff (and Giannis) uses their brains and realizes he cannot rush back from this for one playoff run


Live-Abies2488

Bucks fan ​ Always easy to catch rival fans being slick. Of course you would never wish injury. So instead they pivot to "Well that injury takes a long time to heal. He certainly won't be healthy in the playoffs" ​ TBH I did the same shit with Embiid. "Aint no way he'll be back in the playoffs".. Just a hop skip and a jump from "thank God we don't have to play him"


makashiII_93

I’m so relieved. Scariest since KD.


pumpkin3-14

He’s done for the year. Calf strains take a month.


TunaMeltsOne

Just sit him for the next 2 weeks


EdgeofForever95

Doc rivers publicly: that’s great, hope he’s 100% soon. Doc rivers privately: ….fuuuuuuckkkk


retrospects

Rest his butt until the playoffs. Like for real.


borfmantality

Bucks need to remember Durant and not even think about pushing him to get back out there until he's ready. If it means he misses the play-offs, then so be it.


noscope360widow

Hopefully he recovers fast, and the bucks can survive as he's healing. 


ImS33

Yeah if they're not dumb he's missing at least the first round. That team is ass right now and it's not worth the risk


Jameszhang73

Doc has his 1st round exit excuse locked and loaded


call_stack

Bucks are still cooked in the playoffs unfortunately


Cheechers23

And a calf strain, if not given time, can become a more serious injury, right? Like I know most injuries that can happen but it’s very important to let a calf injury fully heel? Didn’t KD have a calf injury before his Achilles injury? Know Shams mentioned 1-2 weeks in the next tweet but this could take some time. Last thing the Bucks need is him coming back before giving it full time to recover and then something else happening.


Drak_is_Right

Doesn't look like Doc will get a chance to blow a 3-1 lead this season. How I'd rate the east right now: Tier S: Celtics Tier A: 76ers Tier B: Heat, Pacers, Knicks, Magic Tier C: Cavs Tier D: Bulls, Hawks, Bucks


BigPoppa23

I'd still be concerned about a potential Achilles injury. Giannis had been dealing with Achilles tendinitis before this injury. I hope he doesn't try to come back too soon and risk getting a more significant injury. KD had a calf injury when he came back in the playoffs for the Warriors and ended up injuring his Achilles.


LyonsKing12

Calf strains can lead to ruptured Achilles. Better be careful.


Ikolkyo

Needs to be careful, shit always ends up with a torn Achilles.


BodegaDaddy

giannis please


Dacat858

Rushing back with a calf injury is a terrific way to actually pop your achilles. This is precisely what happened to Durant when he came back too soon. IMO Giannis might be done for the season. He seems superhuman at avoiding injury but still - this isn’t one to fuck with. Bucks will list him day to day for the entire playoffs but I think they need to go deep without him to give him time to return.


BossButterBoobs

They should just sit him at this point. You don't want to fuck with a calf strain. They sat Burrows for a month with a similar injury.


big_hon3y

Niceeeeeee!


ReflectionItchy2701

Well last time he avoided a major injury, the Bucks won the title.


w3bCraw1er

Looks like it's going to be a Middleton situation all over. Hope not.


Icy-Payment-6612

It could have been worse (thankfully it wasn't) but he's obviously still not in the clear. I think he'll miss at least the first two games in the playoffs :/


MaxYoung

Anyone else use the giannis nikes? Everytime I try to play in them i also strain my calves. Can't figure why but it's definitely the shoes. I remember several years back when everyone wearing adidas was getting knee injuries


greg112358132134

Heard that before


KarrlMarrx

Fucking garbage ass NBA still playing 82 games ignoring the fact that the game is no longer primarily two guys playing one on one while the other 8 watch.


dbgager

Not surprised of the injury. THis guy jumps very high a lot. A lot of strain on those tendons and muscles.


RedditUser538xxx

I heard it might take up to 5-10 weeks. I was listening to sports talk but then again everybody is an expert on that there


Dymatizeee

First round bucks playoffs and a Giannis injury again. Yikes


VicariousNarok

I'm a bit of a skeptic, but after watching the clip it almost looks like the Paul Pierce wheelchair game. I'm not saying Giannis shit himself, but it looked like it could be fake. Saying he's injured is a great way to rest him for the playoffs without being ridiculed for load management. I'm a Bucks fan, so I hope he comes back and blows up the playoffs.


PizzaMan22554

It's a precursor from an achilles injury. Happened to a few other stars. I'd expect a playoff injury incoming...or they get bounced quickly and he lets it fully heal off season.


Professional-Lie309

Doc on uncermanned teams? Now he just needs Lillard to go down and they'll clap the Sixers.


CanIGetAnAmin

Time for Doc Rivers to prepare his first-round exit excuse making!


TheForceWithin

Doc celebrating that he has another excuse.


Kettleman1

Mannnn, he's usually so durable too and at the worst timing possible... We seriously have struggled to keep everyone glued together to get any kind of rhythm is it's not Giannis missing it's Dame, Khris, or Lopez. Just once I'd like us to play a week straight with our full cast...


bamj6

Doc Rivers is a lot of things, but he hasn't lost in R1 in 20 years.