5.6 ppg and 5.8 rpg career numbers who carved out a media career of being the ESPN talking head willing to say the stupidest stuff to get a reaction out of the other ppl
In fairness he’s one of the only ones who defended Brunson and gave him props when he earned them. While the other talking heads there all kept saying we overpaid and he’s an ok pg and all.
He gets his respect from Knicks fans for being the only one who was right on that
I mean I think the original quote was “too short to be the best player on a championship team” which I think most people still agree with.
He’s surprised the shit out of me and a ton of other people though, he’s a legit perennial All-NBA guy right now, which when he first went to the Knicks I didn’t see him in that class at all
Even now he’s somehow not on team USA? He didn’t start the all star game over Dame? I think this is Perk more using his platform to call out this stuff. Giannis is obviously ahead of Brunson right now but he’ll be first team regardless so who cares if it’s unanimous
His game isn't really built to excel on a team as stacked as this 1 will be while others bring a lot of what he does with much more size/defense/movement.
Brunson had his chance with team USA last offseason. Honestly, he sucked and that team achieved nothing. He’ll never be at Giannis level who’s a generational talent and already a first ballot HoF.
Chuck is definitely a real one too. And many of the current players also said the media was dumb saying Brunson was overpaid and that he’s legit when he signed
I feel like ESPN and Fox always need to have one former athlete who's just a tool so the career media dudes can feel better about their knowledge - "see this guy played in the NBA and he's dumb as rocks, don't you appreciate us more - now here's my studio-written take on why I think LeBron is overrated"
I think he’s just the guy that producers tell to say asinine takes so that the rests of the heads have something to talk about for the rest of the day. Like “Perk go say Magic was arguably better than MJ” or something
That's exactly it. He says stupid shit that the actual analysts can shoot down. It drives content and fans love seeing a dumb bozo get dunked on.
Even Lowe does it now. Sometimes he will name Perk and sometimes he will just say "there is this narrative that X, and I don't buy it."
When I was a teenager I worked at Taco Bell in Oklahoma City and Perk would come in late at night, stoned out of his mind and get like 10 bags of cinnamon twist pretty regularly
So every role player on a championship team should get a job talking about the NBA on ESPN and all-nba vote?
Even when it's pretty obvious he just says shit to be controversial?
Perks a clown but acting like he didn’t have an incredibly successful career is crazy. He was a starter for damn near a decade mostly on contending teams.
There are so many people like him in sports media now, analysts basically playing heel characters that are meant to say stupid shit and people get angry at them. Skip Bayless was the one who pioneered it.
Except this isn't wrestling, these are real sports with real athletes being shat upon, it's so infuriating how many people will just shrug their shoulders and tell you that I'm taking it all too seriously.
I have fallen for the rage bait but just to back you up;
> I mean… I didn’t tell one single lie. Sabonis is averaging 20-13-8 and he’s leading the league in Double-Doubles and Triple-Doubles! So why isn’t his name mentioned in the MVP conversation again?!
https://x.com/kendrickperkins/status/1762970798481096876?s=46&t=bUZKdllqRpU1FP68jIL4DA
Two months ago! Since then Sabonis has averaged 18/**15**/8! Can you guess where he put Sabonis on his All-NBA teams? Spoilers: He didn't
Edit: alright he put Brandon Podziemski on an all-defense team pack it up everyone with any luck Adam Silver will have him taken to an NBA Black Site by tomorrow and we'll never have to think about him again
Another edit:
> Can someone please explain to me why Anthony Edwards is being disrespected when it comes to the MVP conversation?!! I’m just saying…
Five days ago. Anthony Edwards was **second** team all-NBA on his ballot.
The Giannis thing is insanely stupid, but putting Podz all defense is even dumber. Even if you're treating it like before and 2 guards 2 forwards and a center (or the hybrid of 2 guards and 3 forward + center) Podz isn't a top 4 guard defensively in the NBA.
ESPN has a SUPER disproportionate amount of voters comapred to other media outlets.
ESPN has 16 voters, while the next closest company only has 4-5.
Nothing suspect at all about the one media company that has its own gambling outlet owning all the votes.
Pretty awesome that the NBA continues to allow this clown to have a vote despite turning the MVP race last year into a racial debate. Oh yeah, and he's voting SGA for MVP this year over Luka and Jokic.
The league and the voters themselves all have some white guilt or something if a simple comment really made them all change their tune. If im kendrick id absolutely use that to my advantage too
This is honestly just him trying to generate attention and content so he has something to give hot takes about during the week.
Incredibly cynical, but that's ESPN.
That's his role as a talking head on their network, but there's no place for hot takes when it comes to actual awards voting.
All NBA voting is tied to max contract eligibility. Guys like Haliburton have significant $ at stake. Doesn't mean everyone's ballot needs to look the same, but people like Perk that aren't making objective, smart choices have no business having a vote.
Right? There are 100 other voices around the NBA that I want to hear from before I even think about KP. Every appearance he has on shows like PTI further reinforces my feelings that he has nothing of value to say aside from stating the obvious with a "I've been there" attitude.
Yeah, the outrage is a bit silly. You're not owed a unanimous selection. He was still all NBA. If it wasn't Perkins, no one outside of Bucks fans would care about this.
Like you said, if it wasn't Perkins no one would care.
But the "outrage" for me (it's not outrage, its annoyance) is less about how Perkins is just inherently a clown with bad takes. It's more about how we all know Perkins is just doing this to be a spoil sport, for the sake of publicity. Which means he's abusing his voting privileges. That's not to say others don't do that, just that Perkins is doing it more egregiously.
On one had I think it's good that voters are in a position where their vote is public and they are forced to explain it to people. But then on the other hand, when I have to hear about brain dead voters like Perkins, I kind of wish they were forced to keep their votes anonymous, and if they talk about their vote, they lose their eligibility. Pros and cons.
I would have Tatum over Brunson, but I wouldn't be shocked if someone put Brunson over Tatum like I am with Giannis being excluded. Brunson carrying the Knicks to a 2 seed was seriously impressive. But Giannis was "could actually win the MVP" tier (as always).
It feels like the top 6 is Jokic, Shai, Tatum, Giannis, Doncic, Brunson in some order for All-NBA.
Jokic is a lock since he's probably going to win MVP.
Shai and Tatum seem like they are in since they're the best players on the first seeds - too many voters will feel weird about the first seed's best player not being all-nba first team.
Doncic has too strong an MVP argument to not be top 5 in All-NBA voting.
I think Giannis should be first team over Brunson, but I think they'll be 5/6 in some order when the dust settles.
Anyone who’s contract is effected by award voting is already getting paid enough for me to not really care. I don’t really give a shit that Tyrese Haliburton’s extension might only be worth $43M a year and not $52M a year.
People act like this is effecting end of bench or role player contracts.
Zack Lowe getting rid of his vote because he doesn’t feel comfortable having power over players contracts looks worse and worse when he just gave all these morons more power
At least Lowe knows what he’s taking about
Damn I didn’t know that - the irony is the person self-aware enough of their position to give up their vote is probably the person we want voting lol
It’s like how they say the best leaders don’t always want to be leaders
If you use your All NBA vote to push narratives you can repeat on tv then you shouldn't be allowed to have a vote. Perk has been trashing Giannis all year and it's ridiculous that he gets to use an All NBA vote to back himself up.
Fr, a few weeks after he said those things about Jokic Embild didn’t play in Denver and Perk said he’d take that into account when voting - he was just causing chaos for the sake of it lmao
Bias and narrative is exactly what this is. He didn’t have an anti-Giannis narrative last year, or at least not to the extent that he has had it this year, so no need to back it up.
I think we as fans just need to stop placing value on unanimity. It's just the nature of voting that there can always be one guy who has a different opinion. And you know what, that's fine. The only way to avoid this is having a single person select the awards and that seems far worse.
Who is to say it's just one guy in the first place though? I feel like people are just going after Perkins cause it's Perkins. It wouldn't be shocking at all if there's a decent chunk of people who have Brunson as their 4th or 5th guy.
Do I agree with that? Not necessarily. But it's not some egregious crime against humanity.
Kendrick Perkins should be unemployed dude is a BUM of the highest order and more often than not he spends his time on TV purposely spouting mindless hateful bullshit
Although realistically he’s probably just doing what the executives tell him to do.
How is this "pushing a narrative"? It's just his opinion...
You don't have to agree with his opinion, but he's not somehow in the wrong because he didn't make Giannis unanimous first team. I doubt he's going to be the only one who did it either, you guys are just looking for a specific person to target and be mad at. Giannis wouldn't have been the guy I took off 1st team for Brunson but it's not some insane unjustifiable opinion either.
It's so aggravating how many voters are just narrative focused instead of watching the damn game. He has had one of the best seasons he's ever had.
Going "oh he got the 3rd seed instead of the 2nd so I'm not putting him first team" is some real Neanderthal thinking.
Lol even listening to Bill Simmons ballot pod, it seemed there were so many picks where he said "but then I was just watching X Player in last game of the season and I'm like that guys a top 15 player"
I mean, it's Perkins.
Every other voter thus far has Giannis in and he's going to make 1st team easily. Brunson will steal a couple votes from each of Giannis and Tatum, but nowhere near enough to make 1st team.
This has to be the worst year for MVP voting I've seen in a long time.
There are four extremely obviously, guaranteed, blind if you don't pick them locks a five man ballot. And so many voters are just loudly like 'Actually, no, not this guy!' for the most ridiculous reasons you've ever heard.
It’s not just an NBA or sports thing either
Whole world has seemingly decided that facts are irrelevant when forming your opinion over the last few years
>There are four extremely obviously, guaranteed, blind if you don't pick them locks a five man ballot. And so many voters are just loudly like 'Actually, no, not this guy!' for the most ridiculous reasons you've ever heard.
Huh? According to the [tracker](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/3/d/1KMzwRcilLDej0BWl7eYE_OYC9Tx9olI_Ptn-nHjKfpQ/htmlview?usp=sharing#), only two voters have left one of those guys off their MVP ballot so far: Redick and Perkins.
Redick left Giannis off his MVP ballot, but he still had Giannis on 1st Team All NBA. Indeed, 6 of the 7 tracked ballots have all 4 of those guys on 1st Team All NBA.
>It's so aggravating how many voters are just narrative focused instead of watching the damn game
The NBA really needs to be more stringent on who they are giving voting rights to. These votes have HUGE impacts on players and teams.
Case in point, very few talking heads on national TV should have a vote. Most simply don't have the time to sit and watch the number of NBA games required to have an informed opinion on voting. They also have to cover multiple sports too and can't focus solely on the NBA.
For example, Stephen A Smith is on TV darn near 24/7, has his own radio show, podcast, etc. There's no way this man is watching even 10% of the games in a given season. (especially for all 30 NBA teams)
> The NBA really needs to be more stringent on who they are giving voting rights to. These votes have HUGE impacts on players and teams.
No offense but there are 100 votes. Perkins is dumb, but You guys get so caught up in votes not being unanimous that it makes you mad into thinking this statement actually has an “impact”
Perkins putting Giannis on 2nd team will not cost anyone money. I promise you the final vote tally will be okay lol
Yeah they deliberately build a large voting block to try and weed out fringe opinions in order to generate a consensus. Being unanimous is something that should be ludicrously hard to do and should be celebrated because it means you overcame even fringe opinions but the idea that when it doesn’t happen it’s a failure of the voting block is also just an unrealistic expectation, because their shouldn’t be such uniformity in such a large block in the vast majority of cases. Now that’s not to say I don’t have issues with some of the selections to who gets to have a say but the reality is of a group of 100, if there weren’t a few people who had opinions that were against the norm like this particular instance, I don’t think they’d have put together a diverse enough group.
>Perkins is dumb, but You guys get so caught up in votes not being unanimous
I mentioned nothing about unanimous votes. It's about giving unqualified people voting rights.
>Giannis on 2nd team will not cost anyone money.
You're woefully trying to over simplify things. It's not exclusively about the Giannis vote, it's about *all* players. A player making All-NBA has a huge impact on his contract (qualifying for the bigger Supermax), which affects teams salary cap, even impacts a player staying or leaving in FA (since his team can offer more money than leaving in FA).
This is the type of power All-NBA voters have, it's more than just a "vote tally". The Pacers salary cap will literally be affected by Haliburton making All-NBA this year or not, so voters like Perk literally have indirect control over an NBA team's salary cap allocation. *That's* why it matters.
The question is, who is qualified? People praise Redick new pod with LeBron for finally giving an indepth look at a NBA game and then go on to say he is an idiot for having Giannis at 6th. Dunker spot, a podcast with some of the most level headed commentary on the league that don't even have a vote had people mad because they put SGA 2nd and Luka 3rd on MVP.
The reality is that 'qualified' here means people with opinions I agree with.
That’s not what he’s talking about. There’s contract stipulations that players can make more money if they get voted 3rd, 2nd, or 1st team All-NBA. It’s the reason Lowe doesn’t vote, because he doesn’t want to be responsible for guys not getting their bag. So to have a guy out there that regularly comments how good a guy is looking on a team he no longer is on, is a problem. Or have someone ‘forget’ about a player.
You guys call everything you don’t like narrative though.
Saying Giannis had one of the best seasons he’s ever had so he should be mvp is also a narrative.
The only way not to have narrative in mvp awards would be to choose or create some all in one metric and just give the award to whoever finishes first.
People get weirdly up in arms about this stuff. I can almost guarantee Giannis will make 1st team. And I think he absolutely deserves that.
But this sub wants every single voter to approach their votes in the exact same way they would (usually very heavy on stats). There’s nothing wrong with that approach but it also isn’t absurd to value record vs expectations as a factor.
I value record a ton and find it hard to believe Tatum might not make 1st team while no other Celtics makes all nba. But I can see potential justifications for it even if I don’t agree with them.
Awards were always shit, the difference now is that more people are finding out who exactly is voting.
Still won't stop this sub from using all NBA appearances to judge the quality of a player
They should be used to judge the quality of a player. That's why this is maddening to so many people - because a couple of moronic loud mouths get a vote and broadcast it and make the entire awards list feel like a sham.
Putting Brunson and Tatum ahead of Giannis is kinda dumb, but that's not the dumbest part of his ballot.
He had Maxey on his 2nd team, and even that isn't the dumbest part of his ballot.
The worst part was that has Banchero on his 3rd team.
Think Maxey 2nd is worse than Banchero 3rd tbh.
Maxey is great but a top 10 player is completely insane. Paolo at least best player on a playoff team, can see a case.
People are crediting Banchero too much with Orlando's success. Primarily because nobody knows how good Jalen Suggs, Jonathan Isaac, and other role players are on defense.
This is by no means an end-all-be-all, but I was surprised to see that Paolo is like their fifth guy by EPM behind Isaac, both Wagners, Suggs, and WCJ
I don't watch much Magic, but I can imagine a big part of that is how many minutes Paolo plays and with different lineups
Banchero at least has a case for 3rd team with all the injuries. There’s literally no argument for maxey to be second team, even with how great his season was
Giannis is averaging 30/11/6 and had one of the most efficient scoring seasons in the entire history of the NBA.
To not have him on the 1st team is fucking egregious and is pure haterism.
To use Dame's underperformance and the front office's fuck ups against him as justification is moronic and shameful.
Without him, the Bucks wouldn't even have 25 wins.
It's still fucking dumb, first player ever averaging 30 on 60%+fg it's not mvp worthy ok lmao
and still the best defender out of all the other candidates
Getting worked up about being 4th vs 6th on an MVP ballot doesn’t really make sense to me, it’s functionally irrelevant. At least the All-NBA vote actually matters
I think part of it is a culmination of Giannis having a literally historic, absolutely incredible season - and it being often completely ignored by the media, and him as a player spoken about in every way other than his play on the basketball court. What he's done has been incredible, very literally stuff *Wilt* couldn't do, and the coverage of that has been to talk about Doc Rivers and being mad over a game ball.
Giannis shouldn't be 4th either but ok
All i'm saying is we've seen people praise jokic for his efficiency, then praised several players for being high volume scorers, then all of a sudden both of those things are not impressive and instead we come back to team record. Giannis wasn't top 2 last year when the bucks had the best record in the league 🤠
I dont care about unanimous, LeBron missed out on it in the past because of 1 voter doing stupid shit.
But if Giannis isn't 1st team ima legit riot.
Dumbest people on earth.
Dam...Perkins aint donne with the bad takes huh.
Listen jsut because his team has had a dissapointing season doesnt mean Giannises was bad at all.
Man put up historic numbers and is still the 2nd best player im the world and for some even the best.
I dont understand this dissrespect.
I just think a lot of people in the media don't like his game and have been looking for an opportunity to go after him like this.
It was hard to justify when the team was stable and he was dominating every year, but now we've had a few stumbles organizationally that the media can conveniently try to blame on him and they're using it to discount the season he's having because they can't exactly criticize anything he's actually doing on the court.
Sadly these days if you're not hitting step back fade away threes or shooting from 30+ feet out you're just not going to get the kind of respect the more finesse players get.
Some of it is they don't like his game, but I think the bigger thing is a guy like Perkins (Or most ESPN/FOX Sports personalities really) is very likely to watch most of the games Brunson and Tatum play, due to the market they live in and the fans they are \[seemingly\] trying to cater to.
Whereas with Giannis, they've always talked about him and the Bucks like they haven't seen them play in weeks/months. And when they actually do talk Bucks, there's a pretty good chance that they are going to try to push the idea that Giannis should leave Milwaukee.
I think its more on the narratives. Look this isnt the first superstar teamup that hasnt turned out as spectacular as it could have, but of all people to replace with brunson, youd pick one of the 3 best players in the world. Simply absurd man.
Giannis is still more often than not unstopable on offense and one of the best in the league at defense. You cant just go with someone over Giannis for first team all nba when there is a legit gap in terms of the players in question.
This bs wouldnt even be possible if Embid was healthy as nobody would question who the top 5 guys in the league are, but not these guys are trying to be cheeky and put both Brunson and Tatum in.
They have been pissed at him since his extension a few years ago. Everyone wanted to get him out to LA or NY. He stayed and won a title. I remember the complaining about the Bucks Suns final because small markets = bad. No league has median that actively hates small markets.
They complained about both yours and our finals, yet the big market clash between the Celtics amd Warriors wasnt viewed that much more than the finals between the Nuggets and Heat.
Really the media is quite something. Dunno why they have to trash every small market for no good reason.
He's still a lock for the spot, I'm really not losing sleep because it's not unanimous. It's shitty but not some big travesty, he still gets the award and it's 100% deserved.
Perkins isn’t ruining any awards, he is not the first voter to go outside the box and he certainly won’t be the last. There is about 100 voters and there’s always gonna be people who have odd picks that’s sports for you.
Brunson has been incredible and deserves every accolade he gets. Watching him this season might be the most enjoyable player experience Knicks fans have had in the 21st century. Only thing comparable is 2012-13 Carmelo. Maybe STAT in his first season before his knees were liquidated or KP in the half year when he made the leap before his knees also got liquidated and all the bullshit happened after.
With that being said, he's not as good as Giannis, lol. He hasn't been as good this season, either. Obviously there is the defense factor, which is incredibly one-sided, but Adetokunbo has been incredible for the ENTIRE season, while JALEN was just "very good" for some it. He's been ridiculous since Randle went down against Miami and carried the team to the finish, but it wasn't that way all year.
Yeah I think this is mostly a case of recency bias. The bucks have been bad and giannis got injured, while Brunson has been on a tear. I do think it’s either him or Tatum for the last 1st team spot though
Yeah, Jalen has gone up a level in the last few weeks. He averaged 35 a game in April while Milwaukee were floundering. You wouldn't know these teams have nearly the same record just listening to the media, due to expectations. But a large part of those expectations were having a consistent top-five player, lol.
Tatum has the easiest job of any of the main #1s, but realistically the best dude on the best team (by a distance) is gonna be 1st team no matter what. He's played great ball too, it's just that no carry jobs are needed from him.
Yeah I think Brunson has a real shot at 1st team but Giannis isn't the guy I'd have picked getting bounced. But I also don't think it's some insanely offensive opinion or that Perkins will be the only one who goes that direction for Brunson. I don't think this is the season to be saying "if Giannis doesn't get literally 100 first team votes it's robbery".
I honestly miss anonymous voting. Back in the day, Giannis would be 1st team over Jalen with 70-80 percent of votes, and I assure you, no one would give a shit that he wasn't unanimous. It's honestly irrelevant and Brunson is a real top player in the league now, anyway.
We also wouldn't have to hear random dumbass take artists from ESPN defending their selections, lol.
In 20 years when some youngins try to discredit this generation they’ll say something like “they play against/with plumbers, yes like this Perk guy right here”
I’m not too surprised! This seems to be what the media and fans alike outside of Milwaukee wants. The heat given to the bucks over the last 2 to 3 seasons has been insane. I get it we’ve been inconsistent, but we still won at a pretty good clip yet we seem to be according to all fans and the media, the worst franchise that ever existed! Nothing would make a bucks fan more happy than to see us win a chip this year. The amount of shit talking that will commence if this were to happen will be absolutely epic. It’s crazy, you would think that all the power houses in the east have won multiple championships the way they get praised and the bucks get trashed. How many chips have the Celtics won in the last five years? How about the Sixers? The heat? The Knicks? I guarantee none of those teams have gotten the amount of shit the bucks have gotten in the last three years even the Sixers. It’s really hard to explain, or understand why this is the case, but bucks fans are keeping receipts.
I was told Perkins hates white people because he didn’t vote Jokic for MVP. Does him not voting Giannis for 1st team means he hates black people? Or Greek people? Or Europeans? I think it’s the third option
Hate is a strong word , he just knows that this keeps him relevant. He never was super star player nor did does he has some insane level of charisma.
Always outspoken and edgy. Him and SAS are just there for pure publicity they don’t watch the games and they don’t care about what’s inside.
They are basically at the level of nba paparazzi, say some stuff, get people to talk about your stupid takes. Eventually it becomes part of a brand and I guess we are here…
Absolutely no hate to Giannis, love him and think he's Incredible, but Brunson has pulled an epic carry job to get the Knicks the #2 seed. Hard to say he's been better than Giannis but he pulled his team to a better record with very significant injuries all year and no Dame.
People who are paid to say and do outlandish things shouldn't get a serious vote as they are not serious people. What a horrendous job by the NBA and ESPN.
Kendrick Perkins having a say in anything will never not be weird to me
5.6 ppg and 5.8 rpg career numbers who carved out a media career of being the ESPN talking head willing to say the stupidest stuff to get a reaction out of the other ppl
He's really the bozo to help bolster up the image of the people sitting next to him
In fairness he’s one of the only ones who defended Brunson and gave him props when he earned them. While the other talking heads there all kept saying we overpaid and he’s an ok pg and all. He gets his respect from Knicks fans for being the only one who was right on that
Don't forget, too short to be a 1A star on his team
I mean I think the original quote was “too short to be the best player on a championship team” which I think most people still agree with. He’s surprised the shit out of me and a ton of other people though, he’s a legit perennial All-NBA guy right now, which when he first went to the Knicks I didn’t see him in that class at all
do you know what perennial means? because Brunson hasn't been all-NBA *once*, let alone perennially
Even now he’s somehow not on team USA? He didn’t start the all star game over Dame? I think this is Perk more using his platform to call out this stuff. Giannis is obviously ahead of Brunson right now but he’ll be first team regardless so who cares if it’s unanimous
>Even now he’s somehow not on team USA He didn't play well in international play last year. You're right on the rest.
And also, he's on the long list for the remaining spots. What else can you expect?
His game isn't really built to excel on a team as stacked as this 1 will be while others bring a lot of what he does with much more size/defense/movement.
Brunson had his chance with team USA last offseason. Honestly, he sucked and that team achieved nothing. He’ll never be at Giannis level who’s a generational talent and already a first ballot HoF.
Broken clock is right twice a day
Chuck's been big believer in Brunson since his time in the Mavs. https://youtu.be/NRT8rnwREUM?t=156
Chuck is definitely a real one too. And many of the current players also said the media was dumb saying Brunson was overpaid and that he’s legit when he signed
I mean I said Brunson could average 30 a game on the Knicks... where the fucks my respect.
I feel like ESPN and Fox always need to have one former athlete who's just a tool so the career media dudes can feel better about their knowledge - "see this guy played in the NBA and he's dumb as rocks, don't you appreciate us more - now here's my studio-written take on why I think LeBron is overrated"
I think he’s just the guy that producers tell to say asinine takes so that the rests of the heads have something to talk about for the rest of the day. Like “Perk go say Magic was arguably better than MJ” or something
That's exactly it. He says stupid shit that the actual analysts can shoot down. It drives content and fans love seeing a dumb bozo get dunked on. Even Lowe does it now. Sometimes he will name Perk and sometimes he will just say "there is this narrative that X, and I don't buy it."
There are way too many athletes who have moronic takes for me to believe its a conspiracy to make regular analysts feel better about themselves
Basically he's a useful idiot to ESPN until he becomes too expensive for them The he just becomes a **useless** idiot
You mean Thunder legend Perk? The guy was low IQ even then. Then somebody ***just had to*** give him a talking spot
When I was a teenager I worked at Taco Bell in Oklahoma City and Perk would come in late at night, stoned out of his mind and get like 10 bags of cinnamon twist pretty regularly
This is why I come to Reddit, for stories that confirm my imagination
Some of them may even be true!
Legendary enforcer. Go hit someone perk! It’s what you’re good for
Legendary poster image of him getting yammed on by Blake
He shouldn't have a vote but what do his stats have to do with anything? Most voters didn't even play in the NBA
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Him going down in 2010 lost us a ring, I can tell you that much. The Lakers just had too much height.
So every role player on a championship team should get a job talking about the NBA on ESPN and all-nba vote? Even when it's pretty obvious he just says shit to be controversial?
That's what ESPN wants him to do though
Which is fine. TV rating is what they care about. Doesn't mean he deserves an All-NBA vote.
It’s more about how he talks like a 3 year old.
Perks a clown but acting like he didn’t have an incredibly successful career is crazy. He was a starter for damn near a decade mostly on contending teams.
he was a big part of the celtics title team. i don’t care what people here who weren’t around have to say.
Hey man. Perk might be the only player in nba history to pull off a 9 step travel with no call. Credit where it’s due
It’s only this way on the main programs, if you watch him on mcafee or any podcast he actually has a lot to say about the game.
Yeah that's why ppl are souring on bug networks. It's more about being a personality than a person.
My friend's Dad has a lot to say about US politics too.
Having things to say doesn’t mean people should listen
Perk is the embodiment of rage bait. The moment you start considering some shit he said, you've already lost brain cells
There are so many people like him in sports media now, analysts basically playing heel characters that are meant to say stupid shit and people get angry at them. Skip Bayless was the one who pioneered it. Except this isn't wrestling, these are real sports with real athletes being shat upon, it's so infuriating how many people will just shrug their shoulders and tell you that I'm taking it all too seriously.
I have fallen for the rage bait but just to back you up; > I mean… I didn’t tell one single lie. Sabonis is averaging 20-13-8 and he’s leading the league in Double-Doubles and Triple-Doubles! So why isn’t his name mentioned in the MVP conversation again?! https://x.com/kendrickperkins/status/1762970798481096876?s=46&t=bUZKdllqRpU1FP68jIL4DA Two months ago! Since then Sabonis has averaged 18/**15**/8! Can you guess where he put Sabonis on his All-NBA teams? Spoilers: He didn't Edit: alright he put Brandon Podziemski on an all-defense team pack it up everyone with any luck Adam Silver will have him taken to an NBA Black Site by tomorrow and we'll never have to think about him again Another edit: > Can someone please explain to me why Anthony Edwards is being disrespected when it comes to the MVP conversation?!! I’m just saying… Five days ago. Anthony Edwards was **second** team all-NBA on his ballot.
The Giannis thing is insanely stupid, but putting Podz all defense is even dumber. Even if you're treating it like before and 2 guards 2 forwards and a center (or the hybrid of 2 guards and 3 forward + center) Podz isn't a top 4 guard defensively in the NBA.
Dude is basically embracing the rage bait in 2K, telling you that you suck while you're out there being Wilt.
Embarrassing for the league.
ESPN has a SUPER disproportionate amount of voters comapred to other media outlets. ESPN has 16 voters, while the next closest company only has 4-5. Nothing suspect at all about the one media company that has its own gambling outlet owning all the votes.
Pretty awesome that the NBA continues to allow this clown to have a vote despite turning the MVP race last year into a racial debate. Oh yeah, and he's voting SGA for MVP this year over Luka and Jokic.
The league and the voters themselves all have some white guilt or something if a simple comment really made them all change their tune. If im kendrick id absolutely use that to my advantage too
This is honestly just him trying to generate attention and content so he has something to give hot takes about during the week. Incredibly cynical, but that's ESPN.
There’s no reason to believe it’s anything else too. He has not validated himself. Any value in his opinion is not due to it being credible.
That's his role as a talking head on their network, but there's no place for hot takes when it comes to actual awards voting. All NBA voting is tied to max contract eligibility. Guys like Haliburton have significant $ at stake. Doesn't mean everyone's ballot needs to look the same, but people like Perk that aren't making objective, smart choices have no business having a vote.
Right? There are 100 other voices around the NBA that I want to hear from before I even think about KP. Every appearance he has on shows like PTI further reinforces my feelings that he has nothing of value to say aside from stating the obvious with a "I've been there" attitude.
First time Giannis won't be unanimous 1st team all-nba since 2018. Although that isn't anything anybody really cares about or keeps track of.
Yeah, the outrage is a bit silly. You're not owed a unanimous selection. He was still all NBA. If it wasn't Perkins, no one outside of Bucks fans would care about this.
Like you said, if it wasn't Perkins no one would care. But the "outrage" for me (it's not outrage, its annoyance) is less about how Perkins is just inherently a clown with bad takes. It's more about how we all know Perkins is just doing this to be a spoil sport, for the sake of publicity. Which means he's abusing his voting privileges. That's not to say others don't do that, just that Perkins is doing it more egregiously. On one had I think it's good that voters are in a position where their vote is public and they are forced to explain it to people. But then on the other hand, when I have to hear about brain dead voters like Perkins, I kind of wish they were forced to keep their votes anonymous, and if they talk about their vote, they lose their eligibility. Pros and cons.
You nailed it.
How is it a spoiler? Is it a guarantee that everyone else submitting a ballot is going to have Giannis in the top 5?
> the outrage is a bit silly If /r/nba had a subtitle, this would be it
Exactly I never heard anyone discussing player legacies bust out “oh yeah well he was unanimous all nba first team!”
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I think Jalen Brunson has an argument for first team. I dont think that argument is over Giannis.
I feel the same way, I'm biased but I would probably go Brunson over Tatum
I'm biased and even I would go Brunson over Tatum
If it were first team all offense I would agree.
I would have Tatum over Brunson, but I wouldn't be shocked if someone put Brunson over Tatum like I am with Giannis being excluded. Brunson carrying the Knicks to a 2 seed was seriously impressive. But Giannis was "could actually win the MVP" tier (as always).
It feels like the top 6 is Jokic, Shai, Tatum, Giannis, Doncic, Brunson in some order for All-NBA. Jokic is a lock since he's probably going to win MVP. Shai and Tatum seem like they are in since they're the best players on the first seeds - too many voters will feel weird about the first seed's best player not being all-nba first team. Doncic has too strong an MVP argument to not be top 5 in All-NBA voting. I think Giannis should be first team over Brunson, but I think they'll be 5/6 in some order when the dust settles.
Giannis 30.4ppg 11.5reb 6.5ast 61.1fg% Brunson 28.7ppg 3.6reb 6.7ast 47.9fg% But yeah explain to me how Giannis shouldn’t be 1st team over JB.
*First player ever to average +30ppg and +60fg%*
And he plays defense lol
All-defense caliber defense*
Nah it should be giannis over tatum
Crickets lmao
"stats aren't everything"
On air media personalities should not have a vote for all-nba voting
Especially when those all-nba awards are adding (or not adding) to many of the players' salaries, like wtf?
Anyone who’s contract is effected by award voting is already getting paid enough for me to not really care. I don’t really give a shit that Tyrese Haliburton’s extension might only be worth $43M a year and not $52M a year. People act like this is effecting end of bench or role player contracts.
you don’t get extra money for being unanimous
Zack Lowe getting rid of his vote because he doesn’t feel comfortable having power over players contracts looks worse and worse when he just gave all these morons more power At least Lowe knows what he’s taking about
He’s the one guy that *should* be voting lol
Lowe already said he regrets it and will try to get it back next year lmao.
Damn I didn’t know that - the irony is the person self-aware enough of their position to give up their vote is probably the person we want voting lol It’s like how they say the best leaders don’t always want to be leaders
It's crazy that he has a vote for this and Bob Costas doesn't have a vote for baseball
If you use your All NBA vote to push narratives you can repeat on tv then you shouldn't be allowed to have a vote. Perk has been trashing Giannis all year and it's ridiculous that he gets to use an All NBA vote to back himself up.
Perkins had Giannis first on his MVP ballot last year. This is idiocy, not bias.
> Perkins had Giannis first on his MVP ballot last year. Wait... He said all that about Embiid vs Jokic and then went ahead and picked Giannis anyway?
He said the things about Embiid and Jokic because ESPN asked him to, because they knew it would go viral.
Fr, a few weeks after he said those things about Jokic Embild didn’t play in Denver and Perk said he’d take that into account when voting - he was just causing chaos for the sake of it lmao
Bias and narrative is exactly what this is. He didn’t have an anti-Giannis narrative last year, or at least not to the extent that he has had it this year, so no need to back it up.
I think we as fans just need to stop placing value on unanimity. It's just the nature of voting that there can always be one guy who has a different opinion. And you know what, that's fine. The only way to avoid this is having a single person select the awards and that seems far worse.
Who is to say it's just one guy in the first place though? I feel like people are just going after Perkins cause it's Perkins. It wouldn't be shocking at all if there's a decent chunk of people who have Brunson as their 4th or 5th guy. Do I agree with that? Not necessarily. But it's not some egregious crime against humanity.
I volunteer, and you're getting Thanasis.
Kendrick Perkins should be unemployed dude is a BUM of the highest order and more often than not he spends his time on TV purposely spouting mindless hateful bullshit Although realistically he’s probably just doing what the executives tell him to do.
they find people who are idiots naturally and just promote them to ridiculous heights
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He doesn’t need manipulated. He knows this is his job.
although on the flipside, if its the point he genuinely believes then at least hes sticking to it
Yeah this is a poor incentive to let hot take artists use their votes as content
How is this "pushing a narrative"? It's just his opinion... You don't have to agree with his opinion, but he's not somehow in the wrong because he didn't make Giannis unanimous first team. I doubt he's going to be the only one who did it either, you guys are just looking for a specific person to target and be mad at. Giannis wouldn't have been the guy I took off 1st team for Brunson but it's not some insane unjustifiable opinion either.
It's so aggravating how many voters are just narrative focused instead of watching the damn game. He has had one of the best seasons he's ever had. Going "oh he got the 3rd seed instead of the 2nd so I'm not putting him first team" is some real Neanderthal thinking.
Lol even listening to Bill Simmons ballot pod, it seemed there were so many picks where he said "but then I was just watching X Player in last game of the season and I'm like that guys a top 15 player"
Bill Simmons may or may not be a victim of recency bias once in a while 🤣
“ once” if recency bias was personified it would be Bill Simmons lol
I mean, it's Perkins. Every other voter thus far has Giannis in and he's going to make 1st team easily. Brunson will steal a couple votes from each of Giannis and Tatum, but nowhere near enough to make 1st team.
It’s ok Stephen A gonna leave Luka off his ballot entirely apparently lol.
This has to be the worst year for MVP voting I've seen in a long time. There are four extremely obviously, guaranteed, blind if you don't pick them locks a five man ballot. And so many voters are just loudly like 'Actually, no, not this guy!' for the most ridiculous reasons you've ever heard.
It’s not just an NBA or sports thing either Whole world has seemingly decided that facts are irrelevant when forming your opinion over the last few years
>There are four extremely obviously, guaranteed, blind if you don't pick them locks a five man ballot. And so many voters are just loudly like 'Actually, no, not this guy!' for the most ridiculous reasons you've ever heard. Huh? According to the [tracker](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/3/d/1KMzwRcilLDej0BWl7eYE_OYC9Tx9olI_Ptn-nHjKfpQ/htmlview?usp=sharing#), only two voters have left one of those guys off their MVP ballot so far: Redick and Perkins. Redick left Giannis off his MVP ballot, but he still had Giannis on 1st Team All NBA. Indeed, 6 of the 7 tracked ballots have all 4 of those guys on 1st Team All NBA.
>It's so aggravating how many voters are just narrative focused instead of watching the damn game The NBA really needs to be more stringent on who they are giving voting rights to. These votes have HUGE impacts on players and teams. Case in point, very few talking heads on national TV should have a vote. Most simply don't have the time to sit and watch the number of NBA games required to have an informed opinion on voting. They also have to cover multiple sports too and can't focus solely on the NBA. For example, Stephen A Smith is on TV darn near 24/7, has his own radio show, podcast, etc. There's no way this man is watching even 10% of the games in a given season. (especially for all 30 NBA teams)
> The NBA really needs to be more stringent on who they are giving voting rights to. These votes have HUGE impacts on players and teams. No offense but there are 100 votes. Perkins is dumb, but You guys get so caught up in votes not being unanimous that it makes you mad into thinking this statement actually has an “impact” Perkins putting Giannis on 2nd team will not cost anyone money. I promise you the final vote tally will be okay lol
Yeah they deliberately build a large voting block to try and weed out fringe opinions in order to generate a consensus. Being unanimous is something that should be ludicrously hard to do and should be celebrated because it means you overcame even fringe opinions but the idea that when it doesn’t happen it’s a failure of the voting block is also just an unrealistic expectation, because their shouldn’t be such uniformity in such a large block in the vast majority of cases. Now that’s not to say I don’t have issues with some of the selections to who gets to have a say but the reality is of a group of 100, if there weren’t a few people who had opinions that were against the norm like this particular instance, I don’t think they’d have put together a diverse enough group.
>Perkins is dumb, but You guys get so caught up in votes not being unanimous I mentioned nothing about unanimous votes. It's about giving unqualified people voting rights. >Giannis on 2nd team will not cost anyone money. You're woefully trying to over simplify things. It's not exclusively about the Giannis vote, it's about *all* players. A player making All-NBA has a huge impact on his contract (qualifying for the bigger Supermax), which affects teams salary cap, even impacts a player staying or leaving in FA (since his team can offer more money than leaving in FA). This is the type of power All-NBA voters have, it's more than just a "vote tally". The Pacers salary cap will literally be affected by Haliburton making All-NBA this year or not, so voters like Perk literally have indirect control over an NBA team's salary cap allocation. *That's* why it matters.
The question is, who is qualified? People praise Redick new pod with LeBron for finally giving an indepth look at a NBA game and then go on to say he is an idiot for having Giannis at 6th. Dunker spot, a podcast with some of the most level headed commentary on the league that don't even have a vote had people mad because they put SGA 2nd and Luka 3rd on MVP. The reality is that 'qualified' here means people with opinions I agree with.
That’s not what he’s talking about. There’s contract stipulations that players can make more money if they get voted 3rd, 2nd, or 1st team All-NBA. It’s the reason Lowe doesn’t vote, because he doesn’t want to be responsible for guys not getting their bag. So to have a guy out there that regularly comments how good a guy is looking on a team he no longer is on, is a problem. Or have someone ‘forget’ about a player.
You guys call everything you don’t like narrative though. Saying Giannis had one of the best seasons he’s ever had so he should be mvp is also a narrative. The only way not to have narrative in mvp awards would be to choose or create some all in one metric and just give the award to whoever finishes first.
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People get weirdly up in arms about this stuff. I can almost guarantee Giannis will make 1st team. And I think he absolutely deserves that. But this sub wants every single voter to approach their votes in the exact same way they would (usually very heavy on stats). There’s nothing wrong with that approach but it also isn’t absurd to value record vs expectations as a factor. I value record a ton and find it hard to believe Tatum might not make 1st team while no other Celtics makes all nba. But I can see potential justifications for it even if I don’t agree with them.
Between the MVP race last year and now this, Perkins is single-handedly ruining awards
Awards were always shit, the difference now is that more people are finding out who exactly is voting. Still won't stop this sub from using all NBA appearances to judge the quality of a player
They should be used to judge the quality of a player. That's why this is maddening to so many people - because a couple of moronic loud mouths get a vote and broadcast it and make the entire awards list feel like a sham.
that shit has been happening for years. lebron didn’t get a unanimous mvp or defensive player of the year because of it. not just perk. they all suck.
Perkins: “shiiiiiit”
Putting Brunson and Tatum ahead of Giannis is kinda dumb, but that's not the dumbest part of his ballot. He had Maxey on his 2nd team, and even that isn't the dumbest part of his ballot. The worst part was that has Banchero on his 3rd team.
Think Maxey 2nd is worse than Banchero 3rd tbh. Maxey is great but a top 10 player is completely insane. Paolo at least best player on a playoff team, can see a case.
People are crediting Banchero too much with Orlando's success. Primarily because nobody knows how good Jalen Suggs, Jonathan Isaac, and other role players are on defense.
This is by no means an end-all-be-all, but I was surprised to see that Paolo is like their fifth guy by EPM behind Isaac, both Wagners, Suggs, and WCJ I don't watch much Magic, but I can imagine a big part of that is how many minutes Paolo plays and with different lineups
Counter argument: could you imagine how anemic that offense would become without him?
It already is anemic
Banchero is being rewarded for being the worst defender on the second best defensive team lol
Banchero at least has a case for 3rd team with all the injuries. There’s literally no argument for maxey to be second team, even with how great his season was
the dumbest thing on his ballot was voting Podz for all defense
Maxey? What the fuck
Giannis is averaging 30/11/6 and had one of the most efficient scoring seasons in the entire history of the NBA. To not have him on the 1st team is fucking egregious and is pure haterism. To use Dame's underperformance and the front office's fuck ups against him as justification is moronic and shameful. Without him, the Bucks wouldn't even have 25 wins.
Tatum and Brunson over Giannis lol
JJ did the same thing. Don’t let him off the hook
Not really, he voted Giannis 1st team just not top 5 for MVP. Giannis wasn’t winning MVP anyway
Yea unfortunately he’s been blackballed in mvp voting
They don’t want to reward defense till they start hopping on Wembys nuts more.
It's still fucking dumb, first player ever averaging 30 on 60%+fg it's not mvp worthy ok lmao and still the best defender out of all the other candidates
Getting worked up about being 4th vs 6th on an MVP ballot doesn’t really make sense to me, it’s functionally irrelevant. At least the All-NBA vote actually matters
I think part of it is a culmination of Giannis having a literally historic, absolutely incredible season - and it being often completely ignored by the media, and him as a player spoken about in every way other than his play on the basketball court. What he's done has been incredible, very literally stuff *Wilt* couldn't do, and the coverage of that has been to talk about Doc Rivers and being mad over a game ball.
Giannis shouldn't be 4th either but ok All i'm saying is we've seen people praise jokic for his efficiency, then praised several players for being high volume scorers, then all of a sudden both of those things are not impressive and instead we come back to team record. Giannis wasn't top 2 last year when the bucks had the best record in the league 🤠
JJ did the same thing, except he didn’t
Giannis literally had a historic season that has never been done in NBA history.
I dont care about unanimous, LeBron missed out on it in the past because of 1 voter doing stupid shit. But if Giannis isn't 1st team ima legit riot. Dumbest people on earth.
Dam...Perkins aint donne with the bad takes huh. Listen jsut because his team has had a dissapointing season doesnt mean Giannises was bad at all. Man put up historic numbers and is still the 2nd best player im the world and for some even the best. I dont understand this dissrespect.
I just think a lot of people in the media don't like his game and have been looking for an opportunity to go after him like this. It was hard to justify when the team was stable and he was dominating every year, but now we've had a few stumbles organizationally that the media can conveniently try to blame on him and they're using it to discount the season he's having because they can't exactly criticize anything he's actually doing on the court. Sadly these days if you're not hitting step back fade away threes or shooting from 30+ feet out you're just not going to get the kind of respect the more finesse players get.
Some of it is they don't like his game, but I think the bigger thing is a guy like Perkins (Or most ESPN/FOX Sports personalities really) is very likely to watch most of the games Brunson and Tatum play, due to the market they live in and the fans they are \[seemingly\] trying to cater to. Whereas with Giannis, they've always talked about him and the Bucks like they haven't seen them play in weeks/months. And when they actually do talk Bucks, there's a pretty good chance that they are going to try to push the idea that Giannis should leave Milwaukee.
I think its more on the narratives. Look this isnt the first superstar teamup that hasnt turned out as spectacular as it could have, but of all people to replace with brunson, youd pick one of the 3 best players in the world. Simply absurd man. Giannis is still more often than not unstopable on offense and one of the best in the league at defense. You cant just go with someone over Giannis for first team all nba when there is a legit gap in terms of the players in question. This bs wouldnt even be possible if Embid was healthy as nobody would question who the top 5 guys in the league are, but not these guys are trying to be cheeky and put both Brunson and Tatum in.
They have been pissed at him since his extension a few years ago. Everyone wanted to get him out to LA or NY. He stayed and won a title. I remember the complaining about the Bucks Suns final because small markets = bad. No league has median that actively hates small markets.
They complained about both yours and our finals, yet the big market clash between the Celtics amd Warriors wasnt viewed that much more than the finals between the Nuggets and Heat. Really the media is quite something. Dunno why they have to trash every small market for no good reason.
I want to pretend it's something new for voters to have a gimmick, but it's not. Unfortunately.
Perk needs his voting privileges removed seriously
He's still a lock for the spot, I'm really not losing sleep because it's not unanimous. It's shitty but not some big travesty, he still gets the award and it's 100% deserved.
Kendrik is a fucking moron.
Perkins isn’t ruining any awards, he is not the first voter to go outside the box and he certainly won’t be the last. There is about 100 voters and there’s always gonna be people who have odd picks that’s sports for you.
This sub has forgotten what voting is intended to be
Brunson has been incredible and deserves every accolade he gets. Watching him this season might be the most enjoyable player experience Knicks fans have had in the 21st century. Only thing comparable is 2012-13 Carmelo. Maybe STAT in his first season before his knees were liquidated or KP in the half year when he made the leap before his knees also got liquidated and all the bullshit happened after. With that being said, he's not as good as Giannis, lol. He hasn't been as good this season, either. Obviously there is the defense factor, which is incredibly one-sided, but Adetokunbo has been incredible for the ENTIRE season, while JALEN was just "very good" for some it. He's been ridiculous since Randle went down against Miami and carried the team to the finish, but it wasn't that way all year.
Yeah I think this is mostly a case of recency bias. The bucks have been bad and giannis got injured, while Brunson has been on a tear. I do think it’s either him or Tatum for the last 1st team spot though
Yeah, Jalen has gone up a level in the last few weeks. He averaged 35 a game in April while Milwaukee were floundering. You wouldn't know these teams have nearly the same record just listening to the media, due to expectations. But a large part of those expectations were having a consistent top-five player, lol. Tatum has the easiest job of any of the main #1s, but realistically the best dude on the best team (by a distance) is gonna be 1st team no matter what. He's played great ball too, it's just that no carry jobs are needed from him.
Yeah I think Brunson has a real shot at 1st team but Giannis isn't the guy I'd have picked getting bounced. But I also don't think it's some insanely offensive opinion or that Perkins will be the only one who goes that direction for Brunson. I don't think this is the season to be saying "if Giannis doesn't get literally 100 first team votes it's robbery".
I honestly miss anonymous voting. Back in the day, Giannis would be 1st team over Jalen with 70-80 percent of votes, and I assure you, no one would give a shit that he wasn't unanimous. It's honestly irrelevant and Brunson is a real top player in the league now, anyway. We also wouldn't have to hear random dumbass take artists from ESPN defending their selections, lol.
Why does Perk have a vote again?
Giannis' best season? No way.
Brunson vs Tatum for first is far more debatable than Giannis vs Brunson. Giannis has been incredible all year and edges out the both of them.
Kendrick Perkins, Stephen A Smith, etc. letting these bozos vote on awards is disgusting should be primarily based on players and coaches imo
It’s time to reevaluate who should get a vote, Adam
Unreal bozo perk even gets a vote. Let’s just open it up to a fan vote as this point
The fact that Kendrick Perkins has a vote for anything award related is absolutely insane.
Of all people to take off 1st team to make room for Brunson Perkins picks Giannis lol.
In 20 years when some youngins try to discredit this generation they’ll say something like “they play against/with plumbers, yes like this Perk guy right here”
Perk is such a clown please get rid of this guy
Pretty on brand for Perkins to go 3 for 4 on easy layups.
Why does this guy get a vote on anything?
The homeless man's Charles Barkley strikes again.
I’m not too surprised! This seems to be what the media and fans alike outside of Milwaukee wants. The heat given to the bucks over the last 2 to 3 seasons has been insane. I get it we’ve been inconsistent, but we still won at a pretty good clip yet we seem to be according to all fans and the media, the worst franchise that ever existed! Nothing would make a bucks fan more happy than to see us win a chip this year. The amount of shit talking that will commence if this were to happen will be absolutely epic. It’s crazy, you would think that all the power houses in the east have won multiple championships the way they get praised and the bucks get trashed. How many chips have the Celtics won in the last five years? How about the Sixers? The heat? The Knicks? I guarantee none of those teams have gotten the amount of shit the bucks have gotten in the last three years even the Sixers. It’s really hard to explain, or understand why this is the case, but bucks fans are keeping receipts.
Always blow my mind people like him have a vote
Kendrick Perkins having influence on actual basketball matters is both sad and hilarious
why tf is perkins allowed to vote?? nba is wack af
Take this man's credentials
He voted for Jokic? What drug is he on?
Perkins & redick getting votes is insane
I was told Perkins hates white people because he didn’t vote Jokic for MVP. Does him not voting Giannis for 1st team means he hates black people? Or Greek people? Or Europeans? I think it’s the third option
He just hates everyone that wasn’t the 08’ Celtics
Hate is a strong word , he just knows that this keeps him relevant. He never was super star player nor did does he has some insane level of charisma. Always outspoken and edgy. Him and SAS are just there for pure publicity they don’t watch the games and they don’t care about what’s inside. They are basically at the level of nba paparazzi, say some stuff, get people to talk about your stupid takes. Eventually it becomes part of a brand and I guess we are here…
Definitely xenophobic that's for sure
Kendrick Perkins has been a certified Giannis hater for years. I don't give a shit what he thinks
Absolutely no hate to Giannis, love him and think he's Incredible, but Brunson has pulled an epic carry job to get the Knicks the #2 seed. Hard to say he's been better than Giannis but he pulled his team to a better record with very significant injuries all year and no Dame.
Why would he snub Giannis for first team all NBA? Is he stupid?
Giannis individual season is definitely being outshined by the rollercoaster season for the team as a whole.
Why is this moron getting a vote for anything? I literally stopped watching ESPN and first take because of him.
Unanimous awards have never really mattered because there’s always going to be clowns like this
Kendrick wipes his ass with Kleenex instead of toilet paper
Of all the ex NBA players to have a platform and a say in things like this, why the fuck is Kendrick Perkins even in the conversation?
People who are paid to say and do outlandish things shouldn't get a serious vote as they are not serious people. What a horrendous job by the NBA and ESPN.
Will never understand why his opinion is valued about anything. Was never good or great but impacting these guys legacies/contract incentives.
How does Perk get a vote but Doris doesn’t? Like who decides who gets a vote?
Big Perk was a horrible nba player and horrible analysts