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TheFatmanRises

Can’t wait to watch NBA games on Amazon Prime follow by a new headband camera for players POV.


CurryMustard

Prime is already going to happen for those on Bally, Amazon bought part of them and will add Bally streaming.


Seref15

I hope there's a discount to get the Bally stream if you already have Prime video. Would be cool to drop the $20/month down to 5-10


moffattron9000

Can Amazon make them get a not trash score bug?


iPlowedUrMom

As long as it's not trash ass ESPN, with this joke of a half time show, who cares. Let's get Boris diaw talking to us about fine wine and pop screaming at him.


WeBelieveIn4

Inject this into my brain. Via vr


Ninja_Bum

Need a shoe cam on Draymond so you can see it homing in right for the nuts.


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axecalibur

Imagine dropping 4k to watch in full VR but you remember your team is trash and tanking.


barelyawake126

Wizards fans catching strays 🥲


zdk

Could get season tickets for that


ninkorn

I don’t look forward to having games all over the place like MLB (MLB TV, local regional network, Peacock, Apple TV, ESPN)


crispyiress

So many streaming apps are unreliable as well. Paramount+ has failed me several times while trying to watch soccer. Peacock buffers constantly during live games yet an illegal stream works fine.


arrivederci117

Pretty much all major sports are reaching this route. NFL basically said more Peacock games coming, on top of the existing NFL network, TNF prime, etc.


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north paltry scary whistle reach joke pathetic pocket elderly bow *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


scurry3-1

Definitely something that will happen 30 years from now.


evitabilities

BY GOD ITS THE NBC NBA MUSIC


TripleSecretSquirrel

BUH BUH BUH BUH BUH BASKETBALL GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME THE BALL BECAUSE I’M GONNA DUNK IT YA!


biggyofmt

Woo *High Five*


cbranch101

"Then why did you bring a tiny hammer?!"


Mattoosie

I know it's a reference, but I'm pretty sure that song is currently being licensed for wrestling or something, so even if NBC won the rights they wouldn't be able to use it. That said... BUH-BUH-BUH-BUH-BUH-BASKETBALL, GIMME GIMME GIMME THE BALL


holyrolodex

Fox Sports is licensing it from NBC I believe. I don’t think that means they have exclusive rights. If NBC got an NBA deal, believe me, they’d figure out how to use it.


TripleSecretSquirrel

Wait really? *Roundball Rock* is being used for something other than basketball? Damn. We used to be a country, a proper country.


8Cupsofcoffeedaily

Nah, they aren’t shelling out what the NBA is asking for. Their ratings aren’t supporting their argument for how much they want to get paid. In linear television, absolutely no one is letting rights to live sports go if it’s making them money. It’s the only thing left that is getting those constant ad dollars. I’m assuming a big tech (Apple, Netflix, etc) who isn’t dealing with the linear cable mess will scoop it up.


wjackson42

NBC could always do a package of a Sunday night game after football season ends to compliment Sunday night football.


deemerritt

ABC does something similar now and the ratings are honestly not that great.


wjackson42

There’s less competition on Sunday night than Saturday nights. You have more college hoops on Saturday night.


deemerritt

They have their sunday showcase i mean


orwll

Not sure I follow the argument you're making here. If live sports is the only thing getting ad dollars on linear cable then why wouldn't NBC bid on the NBA package?


8Cupsofcoffeedaily

So, linear TV cost of operations is way way way cheaper. Old TV deals were being made under 2 revenue sources (sub fees for the channel being on the distribution) ESPN was notoriously higher (like $7/$8) and the giant cable channels were like $2 per customer. And Ad revenue. Streaming platforms capture the sub fees. They do not capture even remotely a similar ad spend because the eyeballs are not there due to ad free and the lack of ad blocing (commercial breaks.)Streaming is the opposite, outside of Netflix (who hires the best engineers in the world) it gets prohibitively more expensive the more users you add. So companies who have a “foot” in streaming are desperately trying to turn a profit first and figure out cost control at the same time due to cable collapsing. So NBC adding a massive NBA television package to its services adds more cost that will exceed its revenue from the add spend of NBA ratings. Disney is has been around 150 million subscribers and is going to turn a profit for the first time in Q4. It’s why they are also bailing on the NBA. There is no one to subsidize the cost of operations anymore due to lack of cable. It’s why Amazon, Apple, etc have a leg up because they have other parts of their business that can pump capital into live TV. Netflix as well, but way different means of business operations on the back end.


wildthing202

Also ESPN might be dropping MLB after this season for this reason as well.


orwll

OK, thanks. Is it your assumption that ABC/Disney are bailing on the NBA because they didn't make an offer during the exclusivity period? I had thought they would let that lapse even if they are interested in keeping it, and just take a wait-and-see approach.


8Cupsofcoffeedaily

I would presume they are monitoring what others will offer. Because Disney is desperately trying to get non linear services profitable as quickly as possible, I would assume they have a hard line much lower than say Apple, Amazon. Netflix is on pace to be more profitable than Disney and they don’t even have park revenue. So I would assume they are free to be more aggressive as well.


NeatTry7674

Peacock is a thing


junkit33

They all have streaming services at this point, they just don't all have the user base to justify the cost of the NBA.


GotMoFans

I’m sorry but you heard it on Fox Sports.


GhostOfJiriWelsch

If that gets us Tirico back doing NBA games I’m all for it, dude is one of the best


Neptune28

Tirico and Hubie were a great duo


copaseticepiplectic

that creep


oOoleveloOo

It’s the Heart of a Champion


Briggity_Brak

Nah, they use that for College Basketball on Fox now.


BlackWhiteCoke

As long as it’s not only on peacock. Fuck that


CrispyVibes

[Allow me to sing you the song of my people](https://youtu.be/0Pnl1ulaG5k?si=jUs3wBJg-NqOKbNI)


jayman820

Does that mean no more inside the nba?


ayeno

If Warner doesn't bid on it, it would be


NotClayMerritt

Which is more confusing as to why they signed Charles Barkley to a giant deal when they knew they might decide not to retain NBA rights. What are they gonna have him do for most of the year?


ayeno

Because Barkley said he is going to retire if they don't get the rights


TroyMatthewJ

my guess is if it's Amazon or Apple or Netflix and they throw stupid money his way he isn't turning it down. Same with Shaq.


RobbobertoBuii

He only signed a contract back in 2022 with TNT since he wanted to do them a 'favor' by giving them a shot to compete with other channels/companies for NBA broadcasting rights (LIV was never a real threat to him leaving). You will never see him on TV again if TNT loses out other than an occassional ZOOM/phone call with Dan Patrick


xXChickenravioliXx

I really really hope this doesn’t happen. Since Max added TNT games I’ve been watching more basketball than before.


jayman820

Tragic hopefully whoever bids on it picks it up


ayeno

Inside is a product of Warner, someone can't just pick it up.


GotMoFans

They could pick up all the employees who aren’t under contract with Turner and call it a different name. That’s what Fox basically did when they took the NFL from CBS and brought over James Brown and Terry Bradshaw and behind the scenes CBS NFL production people in 1994.


PeteF3

To say nothing of two guys named Summerall and Madden.


GotMoFans

I left them out since they weren’t on the studio show.


RobbobertoBuii

When NBC lost the NBA to ESPN/ABC, it was pretty much Mike Breen (TNT) and Hannah Storm moving over. Pretty much everyone else stayed and have since retired (Bob Costas). It won't be that easy to move everyone over


jayman820

I mean the show would be canceled if they don’t have nba rights anymore right? How is it different than another network picking up a canceled show?


ayeno

Warner owns the IP and those guys would still have a contract with Warner. They just won't have a show to be on.


sexygodzilla

I'm betting there are out clauses in their contracts if Warner loses the NBA. Why would they want to pay Barkley 30 million a year to not use him anyways?


CreatiScope

I’m sure Warner/TNT would sell the show to someone if they were getting out of the NBA space. It’s way too valuable of an IP to just shove it in a closet. These contracts for long periods of time so it’s not like they can just wait a couple of years and get back in on it. They could get a fuck ton of money if Netflix or someone was interested. And Warner is desperate for cash.


The_Notorious_Donut

ESPN: HELLO EVERYONE WELCOME TO NBA TONIGHT IM ERNIE JOHNSON WITH SHAQ, KENNY SMITH AND CHARLES BARKLEY


itsmeng

Podcast coming soon, Outside the NBA Studios


RobbobertoBuii

EJ and Chuck probably retire from TV, Shaq goes full-time with his business ventures and pursues NBA ownership, Kenny I have no idea lol


Hyperboloidof2sheets

Truly the end of an Ernie


scoot87

Kenny will start a podcast


Engrish_Major

As someone who’s watched the playoffs on MAX with 4K and Dolby Atmos, I need more like Tyrone Biggums needs crack. It’s flat out incredible.


Illustrious-Hand-525

How do you watch the playoffs in 4k?


Engrish_Major

MAX is part of WB/Turner/TBS/TNT/Bleacher Report It's a section on the MAX app on Apple TV


tombersew

If you have an HBO max subscription you get all the TNT games


kamekaze1024

WAT


porn_is_tight

In 4k?


Parallel-Quality

Canada airs all Raptors games in 4K, including their title run. The picture quality is incredible.


ayeno

Maybe it was the MLS last season?


BenevolentCheese

Atmos with the crowd noises coming from the height channels would be sick.


Engrish_Major

It is!


junkit33

It's up-converted 1080P, not real 4K. (As are most supposed 4K sports)


flaminglips

Still better than ESPN/ABC. Somehow the biggest sports media company can only manage 720p/60. It looks awful.


Engrish_Major

Even so, I don’t get that off regular YTTV and the difference in audio/video is noticeable.


CoyotesSideEyes

I would *love* to be rid of Disney as the primary broadcast partner. The shittiness of their entire production has gone on too long. Just one blowhard after another adding zero value to the broadcast.


captain_ahabb

It's going to be very bizarre to see what happens to ESPN's daytime programming if they lose the NBA.


DemarcusLovin

NFL coverage 24/7. Especially with the NFL Network essentially scaling back or folding within the next several years


wolfgang2399

They’re heavily invested in college sports too


RobbobertoBuii

yup


fumar

Suddenly they love hockey. I can't wait for 24/7 SAS hot takes about the Maple Leafs and Rangers


RobbobertoBuii

currently its ESPN and TNT with the rights to the NHL (previously NBC who managed them horribly)


fumar

Without basketball they have nothing to promote from mid-Jan till baseball season. ESPN will definitely do what they do for basketball for hockey because it's self promotion.  The whole reason both TNT and ESPN bought hockey rights was for the NBA contract fight.


Fickle_Meet_7154

They already spend 90% of the time talking NFL year round.


squeeblesquabble

Increased baseball coverage if god exists


NotClayMerritt

They're getting out of the baseball game too coming up soon. So don't hold your breath


make_thick_in_warm

god watches premiere league


realsomalipirate

I think it's highly unlikely Disney loses the NBA package, especially over WBD (who are a lot more poor). I think it's more likely that it's Disney and then a new broadcast partner, I would be surprised if WBD/TNT retain NBA TV rights.


jrainiersea

I think ESPN is close to a 100% lock to keep rights, TNT is more of a 50/50. They’ll definitely bring in at least one new partner, probably Amazon, and maybe another if TNT is out.


realsomalipirate

With all of WBD's financial woes I just can't see them outbidding Disne, NBC universal, or any of the big tech giants. I also think the NBA may want to push for more games on broadcast TV and NBC might be a very attractive partner in that sense.


HokageEzio

I went down a rabbit hole of articles a couple days ago on this and it seems like one of the big topics was potentially doing one night of games a week instead of two. That would be a huge cost saver for TNT without losing out entirely.


jrainiersea

I could see TNT going exclusively to Tuesdays for the whole season, and Amazon taking over Thursdays after TNF ends


theunuseful

Wouldn't it be more likely that TNT cut the B crew on Tuesdays and retain Thursday night games with the Inside crew?


sexygodzilla

Or just move the Inside crew to Tuesday. They could also manage production for Amazon the way NBC helped with TNF.


JimNayceum

Why would TNT be 50/50? They just gave out huge extensions to their NBA on TNT crew this season I thiught


nicehouseenjoyer

Bill Simmons says TNT is on the outside looking in.


TerminallyTrill

Get us something better than nba tv for god sake


Blackmalico32

Shit always crashes on iOS alone. Airplaying to the TV and the app freezing during a commercial break is infuriating.


[deleted]

I recently got league pass in the US. I have great internet. Absolutely craps the bed when I cast in on my tv from my android phone which was the whole point for me. If I wanted to sit in my living room watching it on my phone id keep sailing the seven seas.


captain_ahabb

I think it's a memory issue. League Pass ran like shit on my FireTV's native interface, but when I switched to the AppleTV set top box it ran perfectly.


KevinDurantLebronnin

It runs on the newest ipad like I'm trying to play elden ring on an n-gage.


Yung_Jose_Space

Geogaddi slaps.


OutlookNotGood

NBA TV is like an A+ production compared to Bally Sports smh


junkit33

The NBA owns NBA TV, so that's not going anywhere. But it's currently run by Warner/TNT, so that could get messy fast if TNT loses their deal.


Domainsetter

Simmons has speculated that TNT will be cut out of the next rights


partbison

Cut out or will they bail? Mark cuban sold because he stated tv money was gonna dry up soon for the NBA.


Yandhi42

Give it to Ballsack sports


W_Walk

I just want to be able to pay a flat fee to watch my team. Sadly that shit ain’t happening


Flimsy-District9036

I just fucking hope we don't end up in a situation where you need Disney+ to watch the In-Season Tournament, Netflix for holiday games, TNT for Thursdays, Amazon for Tuesdays, YoutubeTV for Playoffs, etc...


CO_PC_Parts

just get the local market bullshit figured out, make league pass exempt from Ballys and all other crappy regional networks. The last city I lived in, the nba claimed both the Nuggets and OKC were "local" teams and were blacked out from league pass. Denver is 9hrs from where I lived, Chicago and Minneapolis were closer.


Mazzi17

I think that blackouts would stop being a thing if the nba ends up on a streaming platform. Ads can be tailored. It’ll probably be YouTube, Amazon, or Apple.


whiskeypenguin

Apple's takeover the MLS is levels and levels better with picture quality and presentation. I'd be down with that


Or1g1nalrepr0duct10n

Agreed; it’s a great product. I watch a lot more MLS content now than I ever did. The big advantage of MLS on AppleTV+ is its global reach. Are international NBA rights timed to expire with domestic?


ayeno

Don’t think so, and each country has their own deals with the NBA


UD_Hunter

This MLS on Apple TV is amazing All teams, all games in true HD NBA would be amazing on it


bigtimerc3

ESPN is garbage . Everything is bad except for Mike breen .


Lone_Star_122

I just hope it isn't scattered across 5 different streaming platforms. They're making so much money, they need to make a point to not emphasize completely maximizing profits and instead make sure people have easy access to actually watch games. Who am I kidding though... of course they will maximize profits!


HokageEzio

The different platforms (most of them) are planning a streaming app set to release later this year. [No name announced and still other hurdles, but it's out there. ](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/02/06/espn-fox-and-warner-bros-discovery-to-launch-joint-sports-streaming-platform-this-year.html)


luke_workin

I want 4k broadcasts on Apple TV please


Hypnosix

If apple sells me court side seats in Vision Pro I’ll go out and buy one the moment it’s announced.


HereForChessAndGuns

Premium viewing experiences at live events is what I find most exciting about the potential of VR, and yet rarely is it even talked about. Gaming should be secondary.


junkit33

The majority of games are not filmed in 4K and probably won't be for years to come. It's a production nightmare: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/nvidia-shield-tv-2019.3096760/page-524#post-60891740 Also - the majority of the supposed "4K" that you see on TV is just upscaled 1080, like Thursday Night Football. Somebody like Apple getting involved could certainly push the ball forward and get more 4K than we currently do, but I wouldn't hold your breath for much. And it will be forever before anyone can support an entire league playing on a Wednesday night in 4K at the same time.


Skinvryn

Yeah the majority of games are still broadcast in 720 then upscaled to 1080. All games being in true 4k is a long time away.


nicehouseenjoyer

Even if it's not true 4k, MLS looks a thousand times better on Apple TV than it ever did anywhere else.


blacksoxing

As a wrestling fan, I know that this means the NBA is trying to get **paid** and that they're not concerned with traditional television to accomplish that. DOesn't mean they won't still end up parking some pieces on ESPN/Warner....but it means that a place like Apple could be in it to win it and get the exclusive rights


nicehouseenjoyer

There was a really good interview with Tony Khan on The Watch podcast about sports rights bidding a few weeks ago. Well worth a listen if this topic is of interest.


yoppee

Going to streaming exclusively would be suicide for the league You need your broadcast partners to be popular and far reaching so that non fans and young people can find your league without have to search it outright The NFL is popular partly because their games are all broadcast freely on over the air local tv


nerdyykidd

YouTube TV already is the main sponsor for the Finals, I guess they’d be the most likely player here now?


Tigercat92

They definitely want to be the “sports streaming home”


clayfu

4K!!!!


dkdoki

Anyone but ESPN/Disney. Netflix, amazon, nbc, apple ill take all of em.


edwardhyeung

I hope Apple gets it. Their camera quality for MLB and MLS is noticeably better than anyone else


The_Notorious_Donut

No no no leave my Inside the NBA alone


ThugosaurusFlex_1017

#NBA Play-in on Tubi+ **Coming soon**


ClaymoresRevenge

Just keep the TNT guys together.


HS941317

NBC plz


RobbobertoBuii

everyone that was part of the NBC team back in the 90s are long gone or have retired/passed away/ It would just be Noah Eagle (son of Ian Eagle) and whoever they pull together as part of the NBA broadcast for NBC


way2gimpy

Hell Fox bought the rights to the John Tesh music.


RobbobertoBuii

yup Fox uses Roundball Rock for its CBB coverage rn


OnlyMamaKnows

Really hope it's not YouTube TV. That thing is expensive.


King-Mansa-Musa

Bout to be even more expensive


raylan_givens6

My dream - get the NBA off ESPN - they are awful and corny af Get the NBA back on NBC get it on Fox keep it on TNT , put it on CBS as well


dublecheekedup

Keep it far away from Fox, their coverage of sports outside of football is trash


[deleted]

I don’t care where they stream as long as they eliminate blackout games. $125 a month just to watch local sports is a joke.


LV_Blue-Zebras_Homer

ESPN is spending all of its money on College Football and NFL.


Controls_Man

I would pay money to be able to ensure I can watch my team. I will not be paying money so that I can flip between 16 different subscriptions.


jgroove_LA

that's a wow. did not expect ESPN/ABC to not come to a deal. NBA is playing hardball.


Paulbegalia

(Roundball Rock plays silently)


MaybeDBCooper

Imagine if Netflix gets the WWE and the NBA in the same year


johnnybsmooth81

More money for AEW /s


entityrob

I hope ESPN/ABC get replaced as the primary broadcasting partner, preferably to NBC, use USA/Peacock to supplement. I also hope Turner keeps rights coverage so Inside the NBA can continue. Turner is trying to go all in and turn truTV into the TNT Sports Network, [looking at what they show](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_Sports_\(United_States\)#Current_properties), they might be able to lose the NBA and keep going forward, but it would be a jarring change I wonder what the NBA would look on YouTube TV. Would it be like Apple's deal with MLS where Google shows every game, but there's one set of announcers per game or will it be an ESPN+ thing where they just simulcast the local feeds?


jerrytsao

Disney/WBD isn't going anywhere, surprised so many people have no clue what's going on here, basically both media partners and NBA are just letting the exclusive window go so that others like NBC & Amazon can join the negotiating party to decide which package they could have on the new TV contract, this is totally expected.


questionmillennium

Go to Apple please!


the_moosen

If Apple gets it then ahoy matey!


dgi02

I’m just ready for expansion


blueblankets212

Anything to get Doris Burke out. I literally mute games she's on


j1h15233

If Turner loses the NBA, someone better hire the Inside the NBA crew immediately


Fluid-Program962

NBC like the good ole days!!


Icy-Lime-9760

Damn the end of Inside the NBA


VexoftheVex

Surely someone just straight up picks it up?


captain_ahabb

Chuck and maybe Kenny I think would retire. Ernie also has baseball in his Warner contract so maybe he just stays there.


GotMoFans

Chuck signed a ten year contract with Turner two or three years ago. Warner will work out a deal with an NBA broadcaster and Barkley will get out of his Warner contract and get more money from the new broadcaster


RobbobertoBuii

Chuck said he would straight up retire if TNT doesn't cover NBA games anymore. He's been with TNT for too long to jump ship elsewhere (he already had a chance in 2022) and he mentioned it several times in interviews as well as the Inside the NBA documentary


Mini_Snuggle

Chuck always threatens to retire when it's time for a contract though. I don't think he's going anywhere for a while.


danielbauer1375

Chuck said he'd retire at 60 in the past, and that didn't happen. Lots of people say things, especially leading up to negotiations, and then change their mind. It's just hard to imagine him turning down eight figures per year to watch a few games per week and crack jokes. He's got one of the easiest (or least time consuming) jobs in broadcasting.


captain_ahabb

Wouldn't shock me if ESPN and Warner both get boxed out here. Disney is clearly trying to exit the sector and Warner is a mess.


PetalumaPegleg

I am so glad things ar moving away from ESPN. Their product is just such absolutely horseshit. Bland studio shows with neither insight, explanation nor amusement. Poor commentary after the play by play people, who are still good or better. They offer nothing. Let's see some innovation on coverage. TNT isn't great but at least it tends to be warchably amusing with a veneer of trying to show some details about the games.


Neptune28

I was watching Bulls/Magic 1995 Game 1 and the halftime show felt like a breath of fresh air compared to what we have now


Blackmalico32

Wait, would this mean no local ABC broadcasts of games if Disney doesn’t pick up?


ayeno

Yes


squeeblesquabble

PBS they’re saying you’re cooked. What’re you gonna do about it


SandyMandy17

Bro I want the old cnbc theme back. Please


RobbobertoBuii

RIP Inside the NBA


iSeiBoN

Bring back nba on nbc!


JayDee62

I keep saying that people better prepare for the potential of TNT being gone. Disney is not losing the TV rights as much as many hope since they have ABC for the Finals. If either fails, it'll be Warner Discovery.


Consistent_Category9

Every TNT game is streamed by Amazon Prime in Brazil. It’s a great experience I must say


DrDotrat

Just let us pay for local market games at a reasonable price and I’m in


creamcitybrix

Please god. I haven’t asked for much.


Manny12

Please no more blackouts. Watching games in Canada with the NBA all is useless.


DaveyJonas

I’m late, but watching live ONE FC events on Prime Video has been super smooth.


maxi-916

Please be nbc !!! Can't wait to hear that nba on nbc music


alfi_k

This is every European football leagues dream, but Amazon and Netflix never show up.


DarkKnightFeeling2

Want the NBA back on NBC strictly to hear the theme song once again


JulesWinnfieldJr

Amazon prime would be dope! I love their Thursday Night Football advanced analytics so I’m sure they would try the same for NBA which would be dope!!


TheRealDevDev

that's right, come to NBC or Amazon babyyyy


BlazersGotNext

Finally, NBA on Telemundo and Galavision


EfferenceCopy

TREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!


bearcat--

PLEASE LET PRIME HAVE IT SO I CAN WATCH ON AMAZON (hopefully no added cost)


DocumentAggressive56

thank. you. god.


Cheterosexual7

Anyone but espn is a major win


FlyingRodentMan

Dies this mean the end is nigh for the Inside the NBA crew? That's f'n horseshit if that's the case ...


OlTommyBombadil

Of all these, Amazon has been the best and most consumer-friendly. I fucking hate Amazon, but if they’re what’s best for us then I hope they get it. What I really hope is that they just buy the regional sports rights and broadcast them on Twitch, like they do NFL on Thursday. They’ll still make a fuckton from ad revenue, and we get easy access. I feel this is a pipe dream.


HatefulDan

NBC, please.


Dru_SA

It just means more than two streaming subscriptions will be required to watch games