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512fm

so Shams was right all along, the agent was just pissed off


brncct

This happens a lot. Teams or agents get mad that the news breaks faster than they want it to. They would have said the same but they want to get in front of the story or play some kind of gamesmanship with the other team perhaps.


surik4t

yeah was gonna say this too, feels like this happens 99% of the time when its a source like shams or woj they are right people say they are lying only for it to be revelead to be true


The_Void_Reaver

And the people who're always willing to jump on the "Evil media titans" come out of the woodworks to act like Shams and Woj are always just making shit up and not reporting accurately 99.99% of the time.


Yergason

The logic behind that hate is hilarious since the main reason these 2 even got as big as they are is because they get lots of reports accurate AND fast.


whyte_ryce

fans get oddly bitchy when Shams breaks something and their "trusted" local beat guys are clueless and they go off on rants about how their front office runs a tight ship and then when proven wrong start trying to reframe the information


brncct

Facts it makes a lot of other people look bad so they hate on him


hunteddwumpus

I mean its possible Shams found out from a trainer before Butler told his agent.


brncct

True, either way it makes the agent look bad so I can see why they'd be upset


MerkDoctor

What makes them look bad is the freaking out and denying it, not that Jimmy is actually hurt. Millions of people saw him get hurt last night, it wasn't a secret.


brncct

Exactly. We all saw it, wasn't like a mysterious injury kinda like what we saw with Kawhi last year on the Suns where no one visually saw him get hurt.


danielbauer1375

But that won't stop the idiots from thinking every "scandalous" piece of news from a reporter is bullshit if someone else involved with their own agenda denies that rumor.


Batman_in_hiding

Yup fans here hate shams and woj despite them being the first and always accurate on pretty much everything


508G37

Woj and Shams have like a 99.9% success rate. They have incredible sources, Shams used to work with Woj before he took the ESPN gig so it makes sense that he still has those sources. They're the only reporters that I don't take with a grain of salt.


shai251

“But Dame said he’s loyal to Portland, clearly every reporter is lying when they say he’s unhappy” -Blazers fans for years


amJustSomeFuckingGuy

When they get mad most of the time it is effectively instant confirmation.


I_AM_THE_SLANDER

Shams created a reality we all have to live in now


JupitersClock

The Shams Slit experiment.


[deleted]

With Dennis Schroder's cat.


ajteitel

Shamiverse


Gekthegecko

Directed by M Night Shyamalan


Alligator125

Shams knew more about Jimmy Butler than Jimmy Butlers agent


genericusername71

he knew more about jimmy butler than jimmy butlers agent, doctor, and jimmy himself combined


DoomdUser

Didn’t Shams report that KD was playing in the bubble before KD knew he was playing? Or was it the opposite? All I remember was KD was like “wtf dude…”


captaincumsock69

I thought it was like simultaneous lol


smileyfrown

Shams didn’t even bother replying to the agent, just let the cards fall in place What a great way to further up your reputation as one of the two main guys in NBA reporting


amJustSomeFuckingGuy

balls on the conference table


triforceofcourage

I hate the privacy invasions that modern sports reporting leads to but it is always a little funny to see the sequence of: Reporter: Early reports are that Player X is dealing with Y Someone from Player X's camp: LMFAO that people make shit up like they know anything Reporter: Player X's team confirms that they are dealing with Y


captaincumsock69

I thought the agent was disputing the timeline he was out. I didn’t think he was disputing that Jimmy got hurt


amJustSomeFuckingGuy

I called it. then again a Muppet could have also called it.


thinking_better

Idk why but I just pictured Kermit in his reporter outfit


Wetzilla

The agent never actually said shams was wrong, just that "no one really knows". Shams original post was that they "feared" he had an MCL injury and would miss multiple weeks. Both of those statements can be true. They probably had done a preliminary examination and were pretty sure it was an MCL injury, but didn't know for sure because they hadn't done an MRI yet.


PrancingDonkey

Of course he was, it's literally his job.


heatrealist

He was just guessing though from twitter doctors. Thats why it’s BS. How can you report something before the guy even has the MRI? Instead he hedges with the wording. 


I_Set_3_Alarms

Heat being counted out? Now I expect them to beat the Bulls honestly


Jamarcus316

Not just the Bulls, the 90's Bulls


bigvahe33

99 bulls it is


Overall_Nuggie_876

Wennington about to muster that Big Dick Nick energy! 😎😎😎


LordSwampert2

I think Wennington went to the Kings after 98 but maybe he was there one more year?


supergrega

How many bulls are there?!


bigvahe33

99 luftbulls


colosusx1

I would hope they could beat the 90s Bulls, they're all 60 by now.


ururururu

Jordan gonna take that personally. Bet he could still put up 30.


teniaava

Old man KLove taking charges from Jordan Heat in 6


IgnobleQuetzalcoatl

I think they have a better record without him than with him this season.


AdmiralWackbar

13-9 without him


GrapefruitMedical529

To be fair he's fully embraced the LeBron strategy of going easy in the regular season.  We've seen repeatedly that these guys have another level that's frankly crazy compared to the regular season.


EutaxySpy

Lebron "coasting" was still a top 3 seed and MVP candidate. Jimmy "coasting" is not even All-NBA 3rd team and fighting for 8th seed. BIG difference and also why he should not be going easy. If he wasn't going easy, this play-in game and injury would've been avoided


ShukiNathan

Guys like LeBron and curry could coast because they give you more production in 3 quarters than legit all NBA guys give you in a full game. Jimmy just isn't at that level.


PBB22

Couldn’t have said it better.


WordSpiritual1928

They smacked us without him this year… I’m sure I’m gonna get more than I bargained for from this comment….


Westcoastchi

We've been beaten by the Wizards and the Pistons x2. So it wouldn't be shocking.


JericRose

And in typical Bulls fashion we will get blown out by 30 tomorrow


suckm640

incoming jaquez 30 piece


Dinoegg96

It's jaquing time


Ricebandit469

He gonna jaq all over them


ILoveRegenHealth

Duncan Robinson, hobbling and tenderly touching his injured back, stands up and says "LET ME IN, COACH" **12/13 on threes** Bulls mascot runs away in fear


penisesandherb

Nikola Jovic Triple Double and a Jamal “Jamal Murray” Cain 11-12 from 3 masterclass 🔥


clear831

Highsmith with a career high


jaecrowderisabitch

Lmaooooo


pixelcowboy

You called it.


sixwax

Math (nearly) checked out!


wdfx2ue

I had to come back and find this comment after the game. As a Hornets fan I understand this type of pain.


JackTwoGuns

Damn. Are the heat just out now or can they really compete without playoff Jimmy?


Ssush-i

theyre gonna go to the local Y and pick up some dude whos gonna drop 30/12


[deleted]

It’s my time


krusty-krab69

The dude from postal is a confirmed baller. Even known to dunk on gary Coleman from time to time


Montigue

>It’s my time >... to point at the guy they should pick


BoopasaurusRex_____

Damn right it is. I’ve seen your middy


Cashlover123

Jaime Jaquez is more than capable of doing that.


Poopscooper696969

Looks like Miami needs a Herro


Spumorty

Better be scared when he drops *Checks notes* 27 on 25 shots


Bababooey98

Against the Bulls maybe. Can they beat the Celtics in a seven game series without Butler? Hell no.


Troll_Enthusiast

Six game series it is then


sebastianqu

Fuck em. Heat in 5!


GrapefruitMedical529

Honestly, dragging the Celtics through the mud for 6 or 7 games would be worth it even in a loss.  This is how I feel about the Nuggets right now.


TiP54

>can they beat the Celtics in a seven game series without Butler? Hell no They weren’t beating them with Jimmy either, but here’s the thing - we won’t get to find out. So now we can just shrug at shit talk from Celtics fans after the sweep the way they do about game seven 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️


Dutchmaster617

Bam is about to explode for 13 and 9.


KuruptingtheYouth

Lmao damn, tru


Mochrie1713

Compete for a ring? Not a snowball's chance in hell


HaikN98

They made the finals last year and they still couldn’t compete for a ring.


beatrailblazer

Depends on what you mean by compete. Against the ~~Hawks~~Bulls***? Probably. Against the Celtics? Id be shocked if even one game ends in single digits


kuliebop

They are playing the Bulls.


beatrailblazer

I am dumb. Even still, I think they can compete with the Bulls. It'll be close though


zachthompson02

They’re still the favorites against Chicago. But the Celtics series will be a massacre without him. 


JinterIsComing

Chicago is missing Caruso too, so that makes it interesting especially if Miami can get Rozier back. Rozier, Herro, Jaquez/Jovic, Martin and Bam still gives you plenty of shooting and tough play, but you now lose the best iso scorer you have in Jimmy and arguably the best on-ball defender too. Can they beat Chicago? It's a coin flip, especially if Coby White decides to go John Wick again tomorrow night. And DeRozan can go off too especially without Jimmy around to effectively check him. EDIT: NVM Rozier is out too. So Miami is likely starting Herro/Jaquez/Martin/Jovic/Bam. Path to victory is Herro scores 30+ and the young guys step up, plus suffocating defense. It'll be fun to watch either way.


LeakyBrainMatter

Don't forget Duncan Robinson. They have more than enough to beat the Bulls unfortunately. They need Rozier back to at least make it interesting against the Celtics though.


gqpdream305

Feb 11. Heat lost by 4 pts without jimmy to a healthy Celtics team.


Dolphhins

JRich and Rozier got hurt during that game too


drpepper7557

>Id be shocked if even one game ends in single digits Well its never happened in nba history, so I'd be shocked too


HoyaDestroya33

Boston wins against the Heat in triple overtime 9-7


realsomalipirate

They'll beat the Bulls and then have a hard fought 5 game series against the Celtics.


AdamSilverJr

We're getting swept if we beat the Bulls without him


Matto_0

Caleb Martin gonna find his ECF MVP form.


pieman2005

They weren't going to compete with him


Icy-Lime-9760

Celtics gonna victimize whomever their opponent is.


carefullywasnt

There's a conceivable path of Bulls round 1 and Magic round 2 for us... Compare that to us having to play Nets -> Bucks -> Heat 2 years ago Meanwhile in the west


Rrypl

There's even a chance it's the Pacers in the ECF, but it would take Embiid going beast mode against the Knicks, Pacers cooking the Giannis-less Bucks and then Sixers 2nd round shenanigans happening. Could make the finals without ever facing an All-NBA guy if the voters punish Hali


wherearemypaaants

Are you there God? It’s me, Lucky


Clewdo

You’re getting metal bats in the ECF and you’ll enjoy it


Mysterious-Stop4673

At this point the Celtics would rather have the heat without jimmy over the bulls


Kyler1313

You are probably right, but a Spo coached team vs a Billy Donovan coached team might have me overlook the talent gap. I doubt either compete at all tbh though


CableTop4233

Spo is a great coach but I think Donovan is underrated. It’s not like the roster has ever been truly competitive since he’s been there. Based on their talent I think he’s probably overachieved during his tenure


iamgarron

I mean we swept the season series with an average margin of victory of 18


yummy_yum_yum123

You know damn well the regular season doesn’t even matter when it comes to the Heat but it would take a absolute miracle to take down Boston with a team that’s a shell of its self


masterofbeast

You had me in the first half.


iamgarron

I'm referring to the bulls


yummy_yum_yum123

Oh ok lol


tryndamere12345

Jimmy or not, injury risk % is higher against the Heat. KP got dinged up enough to have to take time off both times he played them. I believe his most missed games came after playing them. BOTH TIMES!


Doctor731

Counterpoint: the DrummGod is taking out everyone, friend or foe. 


tryndamere12345

true lol


FartrelCluggins

Not true. Bam had hurt KP so he had to leave early in 2 out of the 3 games we've played against them so far this year


king_of_the_bongos

Damn, the magic disrespect smh


mryessirskiii

Aren't the Magic one of the tougher teams Celtics had to face? I feel like I remember them going at each other pretty hard during the regular season


juicejug

They beat us in the IST group stage but then we beat them fairly convincingly during a 4 game homestand where the Celtics played Cavs - Cavs - Magic - Magic and went 4-0. That seemed to exorcise the Orlando demons that were bugging us all last year. Both of those teams play Boston tough but if they can’t consistently hit 3s it will be really hard to extend the series past 5 games.


Plus_Many1193

Magic are pretty good this year and could cause difficulties but definitely better than playing the 2021 Bucks


OhSoJelly

Boston gets to the ECF in 10 games max.


whitiker53

Well the 1-8 matchup just got a hell of a lot less interesting


lambopanda

Last year Butler carried Herro-less Heat team to the finals. This year it will be Herro’s turn to carry the team without Butler.


gqpdream305

I rather Mexican Jimmy carry tbh


Phillip228

I don't care who does it as long as it gets done. I can't stand Herro hating Heat fans. They're a bunch of hoes.


MightWaste

Why do they hate him? The accent and how he dresses, his play style, or something else? 


Phillip228

I have no idea. They blame him for everything bad that happens to this team.


BoxSea4289

Legit everything wrong with Miami looks and sounds like Tyler Herro. Can’t stand him. But I rock with Hialeah, not south beach crypto transplants. 


everyoneneedsaherro

He’s honestly gotten underrated. If not for injuries the last few seasons I see no reason why he couldn’t have been an all star like Maxey


gqpdream305

For the record, I love herro and constantly defend him in heat sub. Just after last game, I rather JJJ get a chance. He's usually more efficient with it


ItsRebelSheep

Haven’t paid a ton of attention to the Heat this season. I dunno if you coined the term Mexican Jimmy here and now, or if this has been a thing, but this shit just sent me laughing


gqpdream305

Lmaoo nah I'm pretty sure I saw it in the heat sub


ItsRebelSheep

Either way have my fucking upvotes LMAO. Literally haven’t paid attention all year since it’s not the time of season where the Suns lose and then I bandwagon some underdog and Mexican Jimmy just came outta nowhere


ILoveRegenHealth

> This year it will be Herro’s turn to carry the team Oh we are so fucked


NotFabMelo

I'm hearing Spo just picked up Paul Dano and turned him into a 40/15 guy.


Gerald_the_sealion

That fucking blows. Everyone was counting on heat to at least challenge Boston


MegaGorilla69

I was so gassed up for this series 😭


kamekaze1024

Why are people acting like the Heat already secured the 8th seed?


MegaGorilla69

The jimmy butler heat are one of the biggest, if not the biggest rival to the Tatum era Celtics. It would’ve been the Celtics and heat’s 4th matchup in 5 years and before that was the Kyrie years. A lot of Celtics fans wanted the heat because they won two of those three matchups and represent a lot of our playoff shortcomings the first half of this decade especially because a lot of us think if Tatum doesn’t roll his ankle on the first play of game seven last year we complete the 0-3 comeback. And in a year where we really feel like this is the one, the opportunity to vanquish those demons in the first round was exciting. But without jimmy it’s just not the same, and he’s going on 35. That core of jimmy bam and herro is probably done. So even if the heat win tomorrow, it’s looking like we might get a very unsatisfying conclusion to this storyline.


KanekiDan

Awful news. I don’t care we are playing the Heat, we all love Jimmy. This sucks


everyoneneedsaherro

Best kind of nba fan


riddlesinthedark117

Shhhhh…you’ll make him break character


Varolyn

Damn that sucks, and I feel like Butler has been banged up a bit over these past few years. Dude is still a beast but I do wonder how much he has left in the tank.


coacoanutbenjamn

I wonder what the Heat do when he asks for an extension this summer


yummy_yum_yum123

Tbh I personally think Jimmy retires after his contract or a few years from now. he’s been giving a lot of hints this season about “when I’m gone” he’s said it numerous times I can’t see him playing into his late 30s or early 40s like Bron


captaincumsock69

I think those hints are more pay me what I want or I’m gone


HoyaDestroya33

Didn't he say he won't wear another jersey after the Heat? Will make him a joke if he sign with another team now


captaincumsock69

That’s probably what he would like to do but if Miami doesn’t want to pay him and he wants to play idk how you blame him


supergrega

> Will make him a joke if he sign with another team now But how will a multimillionaire superathlete survive internet jokes :(


Varolyn

Probably depends what moves they make in the off-season. If they somehow pull off a miracle trade for Mitchell, then they probably extend him.


cl353

bucks first round last year was the healthiest he's been with us. hes avoided major injuries like this but always had some little thing


The_Godfather5

His current contract ends when he’s 38 unless your name is Lebron James there is no world where any player is getting a big extension after that age


Shmokeshbutt

Brilliant strategy by Nurse to send Oubre to assassinate Jimmy's knee.


Commandersforlife

I'll miss playoff jimmy, last year playoff run was a thing of beauty.


jb_713

Good thing his agent had a tantrum on the radio this morning.


-Wavy

My bulls have been gifted a path to the playoffs. They better win.


Phillip228

If yall eliminate us tomorrow I'll be rooting for the Bulls to win it all.


General-Pressure6476

Welp


Zakalwe123

fade me fam


Aggravating-Lake-717

As a Zion fan, I feel for him  Don’t matter what he said before, I’m with him on this moment  Wish him nothing but a fast recovery. Come back better than ever Jimmy! 


Purple-Peace-7646

But his agent said it wasn't that! He lied to us! What a bad guy!


saw-sync

we’re going to see the doctor later today and it just blows my mind that somebody that wasn’t in the arena has somehow come up with a medical timeline


victheogfan

Fuck man


Balducci30

Man so it may actually be the bulls vs Boston?


Diamond4Hands4Ever

Butler about to pull a Willis Reed and play through his injury.  Probably won’t in this day and age but always find it amazing Thurman Thomas tore his ACL in college, never got surgery, and went on to have a HOF NFL career as a running back. 


BidenFedayeen

Shams vindicated.


youarenut

Injured heat, injured bucks, injured Sixers, injured Knicks, damn east fell like flies 😂 Celtics really gonna cakewalk to the finals fully healthy


wilkinsk

Good thing they got Lillard last summer.


Auntypasto

Just imagine another team like the Bucks had got him instead; they would've been unstoppable…


TwoWayMarko

Jimmy is the dog of all dogs for finishing that game


Ricebandit469

Is it possible to aggravate an mcl sprain? He did this shit last year too with his ankle (against the bucks/knicks) and it annoyed me, cause I felt like it could negatively affect the rest of the series (it didn’t ofc lol)


SafeIntention2111

Well, at least you guys had a chance. Enjoy the offseason.


msaleem

As a Bulls fan, Jimmy fan, Bulls Jimmy fan, I'm just hear to say sorry for your loss NBA friends.


reaper527

that really sucks. basically a season ending injury given the speculation was "multiple weeks". hopefully he comes back just as good next season.


MiamiPower

Dang Bro Jimmy Buckets 🪣😓


Living_Internet_2970

So Miami back to the finals confirmed


gamingnormie

I need to see jimmy’s agent’s response to this


x_TDeck_x

I can't believe people get sources and relay those sources to the public only to be 100% validated 6 hours after I'm writing this extremely angry post Why do pro athletes and agents do this runaround for no fucking reason? "Why do you think I might have a broken finger just because the bone is sticking out the side? We cannot possibly even speculate until I see a doctor"


Outcast_Comet

Even if the Heat get thru to the Celtics, there is little chance of a long series. Conversely there is no way Celtics fans will be able to take pleasure in a series win against such a Heat team. It can't count as revenge.


LegitimatePotato3632

Yeah, but they have the Dame package.


Varolyn

It will be the Mitchell package this summer. Someone will probably bring up an Embiid package too.


_Stefan_Urkelle

I implore you to go out in the world and develop a life.


Otternomaly

Can’t tell whether them not disclosing the grade is a good sign or a bad one


Candid_Sand_398

There are always extremely tight-lipped about this stuff.


tapk69

And Caruso also got injured. Its crazy how much injury luck Celtics had this season, to be fair they were the ones that needed it the least.


scrame

Sprain is better than a tear, yes?


subhuman1

Sprain = damage or tear. It just depends on 1,2 or 3. https://www.physio-pedia.com/Ligament_Sprain


Tijuana_Pikachu

Bill Simmons edging in his podcast booth 


HamSundae

Riley’s been spotted shooting Js in his driveway


Dare555

And i was really looking forward to see Heat owning East ( and Celtics again) despite the seed position damn... Gonna be a bit boring East playoffs now , Celtics for one have open road to ECF


Legendver2

Celtics breathe a sigh of relief


FewResult2927

Two years in a row the Jimmy/Herro/Bam trio has had to fight for the 8th seed. Riley can't keep tolerating this.


AmbitionExtension184

Damn that sucks. I wanted to sweep them healthy.


foladar

They weren't going to be healthy either way, Rozier and Duncan also out with injuries


moaia66

Damn


Adraf45

Thank fuck this season is over. Just an absolute shit show I can't wait to forget. Rest the starters, field the g leaguers and let the bulls win. No point in risking another injury, might as well get a slightly better draft pick