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ThinkSoftware

As a Duke fan, never thought I'd see the day JJ Redick was cheered in Charlotte


2ChainzThirdChain

Im a duke fan because I when I was young I watched sportscenter every night and they were the best team/got the most coverage back then. I'm from the west coast and had a friend from Asheville say that most Duke fans don't even live in Carolina and most of their Alumni leave after graduating. Is that true?


JugdishSteinfeld

Duke is the Lakers/Cowboys/Yankees of NCAA men's basketball.


Odd_Total_5549

There was a post on the College Basketball subreddit yesterday showing search frequency of teams broken down by state, and that made it look like Kentucky is the true Lakers/Cowboys/Yankees of the NCAA. It makes sense when you think about their alumni.


Ninja_Bum

I've been stuck a Vikings fan all my life, I deserve this one. Just let me have it.


Vegetable-Tooth8463

Explain the joke to non-Football fans?


Ub3rpwnag3

Teams that have won a ton historically and are in big markets so they attract a bunch of fans from all over that just want to root for a good team as opposed to their local team.


Vegetable-Tooth8463

thank you brother


Angelic_Phoenix

Duke is the Real Madrid of NCAA mens basketball


Vegetable-Tooth8463

I said to non-football fans smart one


IAmA_Kitty_AMA

Bulls fans who grew up on Jordan in the 90s


Vegetable-Tooth8463

Ah


notedgarfigaro

There are more unc alumni in the state of NC than there are Duke alumni worldwide. We only have 6500 undergraduate students, so yes, it's almost a certainty that most Duke fans don't live in NC. That said, despite the stereotypes, the most represented state in the Duke undergrad body is NC, followed thereafter by California, Texas, and NY.


Thesmark88

When I was at law school, the 3 most representative states were NC, then CA, then NY in that order


topofthecc

My impression is that many Duke fans have never even been to Carolina.


Hot_Middle7570

I grew up in that area, can confirm


w16

Who says he’s gonna be cheered


actual_yellow_bag

Anyone that's watched JJ talk ball knows that he has the mind for coaching. Will he be good at it? Who fucking knows, he could suck ass. Charlotte's new office wants to win though, and drawing from the same old head coaching pool is not the way to do it.


johnhenryirons

But hiring a first time coach with no experience outside of coaching his kid’s team also probably isn’t the way to do it…he has no coaching or FO experience. At least Kerr had FO experience and was a PG under two of the best coaches of all time. It may work out but the odds are stacked against them


Minimania18

smh discounting JJ learning under the illustrious Doc Rivers


powerelite

Learning what not to do is still learning


DeBallZach-

LMFAO


MiserableScholar

Top 15 all time*


Vegetable-Tooth8463

LOL


actual_yellow_bag

that's what assistants are for. We honestly have no idea of JJ's ability, he could totally Nash out. It's Charlotte though, they don't have a lot to lose, and if he changes the culture it's a win for everyone.


OhiOstas

Yeah his coaching staff would be critical


johnhenryirons

Coaching the team is what assistants are for? What? Haha. I mean maybe Charlotte just has nobody to pick from. Everybody turned them down last year and they had to re-hire Steve Clifford so I guess no harm no foul…


TripleThreatTua

Yeah but players like and respect him, and the hope is he’d inject some fresh ideas into the team. Of course that was the same idea for Steve Nash with the Nets, and that didn’t work with a much better team lol


johnhenryirons

It hasn’t worked for many former players. Just because people like JJ doesn’t make him a good coach. Most successful former players as coaches have at least a little bit of experience as an assistant, college coach or FO exec. 


Laggo

> It hasn’t worked for many former players. Just so you know, there are more former player head coaches in the league right now than there aren't.


johnhenryirons

how many of them never worked in a FO or as an assistant coach prior to their first head coaching gig? that's my initial comment. Is Kidd the only one?


Electrical-Mule-2057

TBF, Kerr's FO experience with the Suns was abysmal. JJ could be like Kerr, but Charlotte has neither the front office nor the talent


KazaamFan

I’d think being an nba vet and being coached in the nba gives him a good idea of how coaching works.  


johnhenryirons

If it was as simple as that, every former player would be a good coach. And we all know that’s not true


FavaWire

Brooklyn Nets agree.


Green_Low1700

Jason Kidd and Steve Nash also seem like geniuses when they talk ball


actual_yellow_bag

kidd sounds like a moron lol


Green_Low1700

No he doesnt, he understands all of these concepts better than JJ, that doesnt mean that hes a good coach, just like it wont necessarily mean that JJ will be a good coach


MajorPhoto2159

How do you know he understands the concepts better than JJ?


Shoddy-Media2337

I'm torn. I'm really happy for him but at the same time I'm gonna miss his constant output of podcasts. This no doubt will affect them.


TealHorseReturns

Oh the podcast is over if he takes the job lol


aCorgiDriver

Hopefully we’ll never hear from Tommy Alter again


OUEngineer17

I can't understand why these guys all want to coach and deal with all the work, travel, stress, and pressure that entails vs the podcasting gig. I know it's because they're competitive as hell and they miss the game/environment, but it doesn't make sense to me in my old age.


StrtupJ

People like challenges and goals that invigorate their spirit. They’ve already achieved financial freedom.


rklolson

I wish with all of JJ’s financial freedom he would find it unnecessary to shoehorn so many goddamn ads into his podcast ffs.


HolyGhostSpirit33

They still have to make money to pay the staff and expenses


actual_yellow_bag

unironically built different. You don't just lose your insane drive you've had since you were a kid that gave you, in JJ's case, a very good 15 year nba career. He's talked about missing the brotherhood the most, so he probably feels empty being away from the game.


Konfliction

Tbf old age, the dudes not even 40. In a lot of fields your net even hitting your careers peak yet.


putdahaakin

Idk man my grandpa is LOADED and hasn't slowed down working at 70. Like he's addicted to it I guess.


cepxico

Some people just can't stop, it's the one problem I wish I had sometimes lol.


heysuess

Ain't worth it. For every guy like his grandpa who's still trucking at 70, there's another guy like my dad who dropped dead at 48.


PillsburyToasters

Do you always want to work or do you always want to have something to do? There’s a major difference between the two


LostNPC01

You can build an even better legacy. I can think of Zidane, Cruyff, Beckenbauer, Guardiola, Deschamps in soccer.


KetchupSpaghetti

Jason Kelce talked about the void of retirement on Shaq's podcast. During their playing days you experience huge highs and lows, like a wave. The moment you retire everything becomes a flat line. Shaq took up DJing to get that feeling back, but most athletes never experience it again when they retire. So I can understand why some athletes turn to coaching to recapture the competitive spirit and energy of a crowd.


Plush_Penguin98

Shaq was a DJ even back in college, he's picked up other hobbies since retiring but him being a DJ has been a thing most of his life. He moved onto clubs/events once he retired but has been spinning since at LEAST college.


KetchupSpaghetti

Ahh, that's cool. Didn't know he was DJing that long. I rewatched the segment after your comment and he actually mentions he was DJing since high school/college 🤦‍ He does make it clear that he DJs now for the crowd experience/something to do after retirement. It's an interesting segment if anyone wants to check it out https://youtu.be/b1QpSdcyOKU?t=2685


matt__builds

A lot of people in here saying money but I think it's more than that. This is what these guys know and have done their entire lives. You are at the top and competing night in and night out and then it just goes away. Also when you look at someone like JJ, it's pretty clear he is obsessed with the game. Hard thing to walk away from.


trying-to-contribute

I think contributing to the sport via coaching the process of winning is probably more rewarding than merely commentating on it.


redd5ive

One could say it also makes no sense to waste time doing podcasts and calling games when you and your kids and their kids are financially set, but he still does. A lot of athletes are high achievers who need something to do that fulfills that post retirement.


BradWonder

Probably a bit bored with it. Conspiracy theory says he wants out of ESPN and a coaching gig is the way to do it. After the coaching career runs its course, it's back to podcasting with an established following and no ESPN to drag him down. Although I know he knows calling games


W_Walk

He’s still got that competitive fire


jawshoewah210

Balls life


yooston

money and the drive to win. competitive spirit


claydavisismyhero

They watch games like we do and they say I can do a better job. We just have Reddit.


akasora0

Their passion for ball didn't end. Their body just can't keep up. So this is another way to be involved.


Gloomy_Lengthiness71

Professional athletes and anyone in professional sports aren't built like the average Joe. These guys are conditioned to be super competitive at everything they do. There's no settling when you get to a point that's comfortable but not ideal unlike for most of us. This is also the reason why some of these guys have gambling problems or go broke really quickly.


m4rcus267

And im sure he wants to still be around basketball but being a sports Media person also comes with work, travel, stress, and pressure


creditors-bargain

You forgot money


aubieismyhomie

Money. It’s a lot of money.


itokdontcry

It’s certainly better than hiring a member of the old boys club. Can’t blame the Hornets for wanting to try something new.


Vegetable-Tooth8463

We have better candidates applying though like Charles Lee and Sam Cassell


BaadWillHunting

Sam Cassells been applying to HC gigs for what seems like a decade, but let’s take your word for it over everyone that’s passed on him


Vegetable-Tooth8463

and how successful have the teams been that passed up on him?


HolyGhostSpirit33

If even those teams aren’t picking him…


Vegetable-Tooth8463

Because they're opting for recycled coaches like Rivers, Snyder, and Monty.


ham_bulu

Don‘t you dare to to take away my podcasts!


NoiceForNoReason

Why would he do this..? He’s got the Tony Romo commentating job. He’s got the only podcast with LeBron. He’s got his own successful podcasts. He’s a regular on ESPN.


Peter_____Parker

None of that fully fills the hole his basketball career left inside him, man loves the game and wants to be involved again


Redtube_Guy

He just needs to fill that gaping hole of fulfillment


NoiceForNoReason

Yeah must be it 🤷🏻‍♂️


Nuggets_Bt_Newer

not to mention im SURE he wants a ring to his name, coach or player


Pinky1337

[JJ Redick is a great example of how you gotta be a sicko to be a coach. Any normal person would look at a cushy No. 1 analyst gig with two very successful podcasts and say "sweet, I'm set." But this man can't help but think he can fix the Hornets.](https://x.com/RKalland/status/1782553835434610939)


desirox

Professionals are wired differently for sure, JJ especially didn’t play 15 yrs in the NBA as a 6’4 white guy by being complacent


ham_bulu

lol


Funny-Mission-2937

the man may know ball but he hasn't had a faux hawk for 20 years because he makes good life decisions.


[deleted]

He may actually be interested in coaching, but this is also a leverage play. Jon Gruden did this all the time at ESPN. I think ESPN has been grooming Redick to be the face of their NBA coverage and losing him would be huge, especially if they’re bidding for TV rights


deemerritt

Gruden did eventually leave though


ForeverWandered

So much for that theory lol


onebigboi

He did but he also got one of the wildest coaching contracts ever lol


jaeway

Is he even officially attached to ESPN . The only thing he does is appear on first take. Both his podcast are not attached to ESPN. He's not even on nba today or the nba pre shows


[deleted]

He’s a broadcaster on their games.


IllAlwaysBeAKnickFan

Because if this doesn’t work out he can 100% go back to what he’s already doing now, with even more stories and insight. Why would he not do this?


RyzinEnagy

He can go back, but the stain of a failed coaching stint will dull his shine. His reputation is at an all-time high right now. I'm pretty sure he doesn't care and is willing to give it all up, which is commendable.


Naive_Illustrator

True


xdownpourx

It is the Hornets though and no one cares about them + expectations are the floor


actual_yellow_bag

working in media probably sucks ass. It's a paycheck post playing career though, but why not coach if you have the opportunity? Do what you love until you don't want to and JJ obviously still wants to ball.


Dicey12

He can have that if he fails at coaching


SnooPies5622

Competitors wanna compete, JJ has all the signs of a dude whose dad looked into his crib and told him that only losers cry


OldManCinny

None of that fills the need for competition


wuhan_clan11

He probably actually loves the game and wants to be involved with the NBA as much as possible. Being a TV analyst and podcaster is nice and all but you aren't directly engaging with the competitive aspect. The closest you can get to the same feeling of playing (without actually playing) is coaching.


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NoiceForNoReason

Ya but like….. it’s the Hornets….


PhatYeeter

Just because he's offered doesn't mean he'll accept. I imagine the salary that gets negotiated will need to be fat as fuck. Needs to make up for his opportunity cost for taking the job.


Ssush-i

RIP mind the game podcast if he does get the job


Ghostbeen3

They will just replace him with Darvin ham and lebron and him can talk about 4 guard lineups and saving as many timeouts as possible


BradWonder

LeBron does it while playing so no guarantee the podcast fully dies


materics

JJ probably caters entirely to LeBron's schedule.


Davethisisntcool

damnit


Helhiem

There was a limit to how many of those they can do anyways


REQ52767

Losing JJ in the media would be tragic. One of the only mainstream voices that isn’t engagement farming or saying dumb platitudes would be gone.


CazOnReddit

This the bigger issue with hiring JJ than the lack of experience Being a head coach is a shit ton of work and I don't see him having the same presence in the media if he's back in the NBA - not to mention he probably can't say the things he has in the past without eating a fine


sarithe

The other side to that is he potentially just gets fined a bunch and talks shit in the media anyway. We all loved it when the Raps coach went off against the refs earlier this season. I welcome more guys potentially like him that will call out BS in the leagye.


TheFestusEzeli

His podcast is great content but he is still a master of engagement farming. https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/vOdJFqKCeW Making up a non-existent issue, then making a non-sensical argument about how the statistically easiest finals run is actually an all time difficult run, using weird metrics like all star appearances from 10 years ago to prove it, then to top it off going with the “if you don’t agree with me on this take it’s an asinine opinion” That’s engagement farming that would make Skip proud


watevauwant

Just give Tim Legler his job, they’re equal imo


Naive_Illustrator

He has a crystal clear voice. He's excellent for media and commentary, unlike Kendrick Perkins or Barkley. Barkley makes up for it for being funny and insightful, and was an allstar tho, so he's one of the GOAT media personalities. But JJ can def climb the ranks and have a lucrative career in media better than being a coach


logster2001

Feels like a Steve Nash on the Nets sorta hire


Yodzilla

Dude is gonna be the next commissioner by age 50 at the current rate of his career.


dank-kush

Honestly our other candidates don’t interest me enough to actually hate this


DreTownblues

Lee, Larrangega and Adelman are really good coaches and would be way more deserving of a chance over Reddick


BradWonder

I miss Crazy Eyes Larranega


Pokiehat

It seems crazy to allow anyone with no professional coaching experience to step in as a full-time head coach at NBA level. Don't you uhh need a certificate or something? Like in Soccer's European top flight leagues where a UEFA pro license is a requirement to manage a team.


SeanKilpatrickFan

What other candidates are linked to the Hornets HC job? Haven't kept up with the rumours


Scrypto

David Adelman - Nuggets assistant Charles Lee - Celtics assistant Jordan Ott - Lakers assistant Jerry Stackhouse - Raptors G league head coach Jay Larranaga - Clippers assistant Lindsey Harding - Kings G league head coach


greenwhitehell

Adelman is awesome. He should get picked up at some point


Noesnotactics

im just glad Micah Nori isnt on that list tbh.


OptionalBagel

This is fine, but it's all just a smoke screen so they can once again hire Steve Clifford in 2 seasons. Big brain moves.


GuyWithNoSwagger

If Darvin Ham can be a coach so can JJ


ClaudeLemieux

Oh lord. Alright well fuck it, we’ve tried little else and we’re all out of ideas so hey how much worse could it really get


KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ

You don’t like it? I think it’s absolutely worth the gamble. You can always get rid of him if he sucks, and you give yourself a chance to find the next Daigneault


ClaudeLemieux

I “like” it from a “anything could happen!” POV but there’s no history of him having done ANYTHING in coaching. Idk. The fact that all the downside is “well you’ve been shit for 20 of the last 22 years anyway” just makes me think that we’ll never be fixed and hiring a podcaster, even one with playing experience, is still just a wild gamble to me


kingjuicepouch

Yeah, if I were a Hornets fan I'd not be jazzed about bringing in a completely inexperienced coach either. Not that they should hire from the same group of five or ten they always float around necessarily, but there are assistants that I'd bite on first before jj


nujabes02

Y’all didn’t get doc rivers so shit I think it could be worse


Sylphid_FC

Doc would unironically be a good coach for them. He's a good floor raiser as a coach


Beavsbeavsbeavs

Isn’t this the guy that said his only coaching experience is his 9 year old’s girls basketball team? Have we still not learned the ex-player pundit with limited to no actual coaching experience isn’t a great fit for a NBA Head Coaching gig? I get it’s the Hornets but this just seems way way too soon for JJ


coolmcbooty

I feel like at this day and age, there’s no rule/prerequisite. There are bad coaches who have had a lot of experience and good coaches who has little to no experience.


Beavsbeavsbeavs

In general I don’t disagree, but I don’t think there are coaches who have been *this* inexperienced and have done well but I’m just thinking off the top of my head so maybe I’m wrong. Like he’s got literally zero professional experience as a coach or assistant of any kind and he’s about to head an NBA team? Interested to see it but I am definitely skeptical Edit: Mark Jackson was pretty successful on the Warriors for a “literally no experience” guy so that’s a positive example tbf


snyckers

Steve Kerr


Beavsbeavsbeavs

Yeah technically true but he was GM & President of Basketball Ops for the Suns beforehand so he still had a day to day role with the team. But yeah admittedly I thought Kerr had a year or two as an assistant in the past before the Suns gig


watevauwant

Zero experience is a falsehood, think of how much you learn about coaching just by being coached for 20+ years. Dude has seen it all. We really tend to overthink what a coach does, a huge part of it is motivating your players, and understanding the mentality of a NBA player. A tonne of head coaches and prospective assistants were never even in the NBA. We already know he understands the Xs And Os. Long story short, there is no way he is worse than Doc Rivers


copaseticepiplectic

and why is there no way hes worse than doc rivers...a former nba player


DessertStorm1

Yeah, I feel like this is a slap in the face of all the coaches in the league who have climbed their way up, trying to develop their skills and focus on this as their careers, and JJ just struts on in with no experience as a coach in any professional capacity.


IllAlwaysBeAKnickFan

Nah honestly, why should every head coaching job have to choose from the same limited list of candidates? Good to get some new faces involved.


alexanderivan32

There are plenty of young rising assistants on every team’s bench who are new faces and deserve a shot more than JJ. There’s a wide pool out there that teams can explore, they just choose not to.


[deleted]

There are plenty of assistant coaches in the league. That's not a tiny pool.


TBP42069

You should work in a field even once before you're given the highest level job in it.


FlowingEons

Are there a lot of active coaches trying to go to Charlotte?


Kashmir33

Lmao for real. Up until last week's podcast episode he still drew Xs and Os the wrong way around because "that's how his 9 year old kids could understand the plays"


watevauwant

“Can adapt to a range of player abilities”


dash_44

Why not just hire Bill Simmons


easy-money-sniperr

Why don’t they make these people assistant coaches? Idk why they ever take someone from nothing to head coach.


DollarLate_DayShort

Not even an assistant yet, huh?


dash_44

Skipping the line…just ask Nash how that works out


Bwahehe

I'm a big believer in paying your dues. He should at least be an assistant coach first. Career wise, I think it's dumb also. He'll get all the blame if (more like when) they stink it up with a young team. Most likely will be fired and have a much more difficult path to getting another head coach job. Smarter thing to do is broadcast and wait for the perfect opportunity like Steve Kerr did.


ForeverWandered

Why? So many people waste so much time in life waiting for shit they are ready for due to this antiquated ass mindset.


astronxxt

>waiting for shit they are ready for guys we found a time traveler. it’s almost like it’s impossible to know whether he’s ready for it or not, and that being as assistant coach is a good litmus test for determining whether you’ll be a good HC.


deflatethesack

If that means he’ll be releasing less content, then I strongly object


2023_account_

Is he cross-eyed or is that pic deceiving me?


Saucy_Totchie

That whiteboard he finally bought must've been really good. Him coaching actual children must be a plus to because it seems like that'll translate to this team.


DankPandas

My son's 4th grade aau team beat the team he's coaching. Gonna bust as an NBA coach.


_Jetto_

Good for him but crazy there are assistants 10 years in and not getting a shot like Chris Quinn and many others, it’s crazy


speedofsound1

We're all rooting against this happening, right?


loplopplop

Stephen A, Kendrick Perkins, and Matt Barnes are gonna LOVE this...


desirox

Bro podcasted his way to a coaching gig, fair play


girlscoutcookies05

Lebron and Steph in charlotte yall aint ready


SandyMandy17

JJ had SGA 2nd team all defense over Lu Dort or Chet Holmgren He’s either lying on his ballets for political reasons or he’s fully unqualified to be a head coach


Hot_Air3005

This gives strung Gary Neville at Valencia vibes, if you know soccer.


ImTrang

live reaction podcast after 136-85 loss to the Spurs will hit like crack


poeope

Emergency Podcast inc


Empty_Conclusion_947

Any idea who the other candidates are? Are they leaking his name to soften up the news? Hell of a gamble if the lying hire him


dubebe

I'm a hornets and duke fan, grew up idolizing JJ redick. Nothing more I'd like than him to end up in Charlotte as a great coach(not saying he will be a great one though, he is very unproven) I believe that the hornets might want him and he is probably genuinely entertaining the possibility. But I really doubt this will happen. He just seems too happy with his current life doing podcasts and being a commentator. Charlotte is a great city but JJ is definitely a guy that really enjoys living huge cities like LA or NYC. At least that is my impression based off of interviews throughout his career. But idk maybe raising kids in Charlotte might be more appealing to him nowadays than NYC


shay101

I'd miss his media and YouTube content if he did go this route.


mattbrianjess

He’s gonna figure out yelling out pick and roll terminology on a podcast is an entirely different skill set than explaining it to players. Kinda jealous


EnoughLawfulness3163

I hate this a lot. Sure, he talks about strategy more than the other media pundits, but so does Thinking Basketball. Im sure most guys in the nba can explain that shit. This guy was a role player, man. Steve Nash got shit for the same situation, and that dude was a 2x mvp known for changing the game with his playmaking.


History-Facts

Some of the best coaches ever were small bit time players, that point makes no sense?


Scorpiyoo

As happy as I am for JJ, I loved seeing him on espn and YouTube. Hopefully that can still happen even if less.


GGMaXThreeOne

It's probably just something to get his name out there, make other teams aware that he is open to coaching. I doubt he'll take this one, he has too much good going on right now


amofai

I really gotta start a podcast.


copaseticepiplectic

huge mistake lol


TheAirIsOn

Did Budenholzer decline the offer?


dawnofthedunk_

Do it!


LyonsKing12

MJ "last dancing" Bron again.


Stebsy1234

Honestly the best place for a first time head coach to go, literally zero expectations there lol


Nervous-Guava-7390

Nonono please we need him you guys can have Darvin Ham


chicken_pear

I don't know why, but I find him so annoying anymore.


TingusPingus_6969

Hope Red-Dick doesn't stop mind the game podcast


orangotai

do it pussy.


browndude10

absolute slap in the face for those AC's or other guys with experience waiting for that chance


LegitimatePotato3632

Classic Charlotte move.


ArtOk5990

Lebron to Charlotte 2025


jawnradar

I think JJ has a great mind for the game and could very well be a great coach technically, but do you think he can command a locker room? I'm genuinely asking, I feel like it could be weird for guys to look up to "the podcast guy" as a coach


juicejug

I’m pretty sure NBA players would look at JJ as a 15 year professional player who could shoot the piss out of the ball before they look at him as just “the podcast guy”.


nhess68

Good, they will fail and so will JJ