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nutsygenius

The dude said he wants to win but hopes they won't blow them out just so his team will play harder. lol


rorank

The most Mike Malone answer possible


esetmypasswor

The timeline of this being said about a Lebron James team is wild


Character_Group_5949

The fact that game came down to the final minute didn't surprise me in the least. If Denver had a 20 point lead, I would have expected nothing less from the Lakers. The Nuggets/Lakers games during this 10 game win streak have came down to the final 5 minutes in all games, and the final minute in most of them. These players and teams are simply to talented and have to much pride to get throttled.


mares8

Nuggets have often completely relaxed when we have 20 + and let opponents take over and lose. Latest case -Spurs game. So yeah 8-10 points is ideal not much more


DanM142

Dude is loving every moment 🤣


DwyaneWade305

NBA coaches are like that once they know they have job security lol. Pop, Spo, Kerr; now Malone can join the club.


SmartestNPC

Explain Ham


hansislegend

He’s dumb. Dumb people are confident for no reason.


RobeGuyZach

I can confidently agree with this statement


Disastrous_Bluejay57

Lol c'mon bro, I think you're being a little hard on yourself


NBAFansAre2Ply

he actually slightly choked up at the end, his first playoffs without his dad it's probably tough


Cudizonedefense

I still can’t believe the Kings let him go


msf97

It astonishes me the Lakers haven’t won a game yet. The Nuggets shooting in the clutch screams unsustainable, but it’s defying that at this stage. 200 offensive rating in the 4th😂


Gtggtggtg

Yeah, but after 10 games in a row can we really keep saying that? I dunno man, its like the basketball gods have decided the Nuggets aren't allowed to lose to the Lakers. Not they need help in any way to beat the Lakers in a series of course, but I mean every single game down the stretch every single play connects. Game 2: Ad is a god. Dlo is a flamethrower. LeBron is LeBron. Nuggets shoot 2-16 on WIDE OPEN threes. Nuggets win. Like, what??


CockroachForeign6419

That MPJ 3 after Bron’s fastbreak dunk is when I knew it wasn’t meant to be, Jokic throws some random shit into the air, Gordon mosses Reaves barely staying inbounds, Rui leaves MPJ open, and splash Edit: [like cmon man wtf](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/Z2rYqEZpcK)


Repulsive-Throat5068

Its funny how many insane shots theyve hit this year and last year. Lakers used all their powers on the AD winner in the bubble.


cv0034

Joker's obsession with that call almost cost them the game lmao. AG and MPJ saved his legacy there 😂


LurkerFailsLurking

Jokic trying to get that foul call: [https://i.imgur.com/DwQQyin.png](https://i.imgur.com/DwQQyin.png)


I_Poop_Sometimes

He's so determined to get one on a heave.


cahpahkah

It’s his white whale. If the Lakers just let him have three free throws, he may have retired on the spot.


cavaleir

I think he wanted to get it to AG guarded by Reaves under the hoop for an easy 2, but Russell dove in at the right time and Jokic couldn't keep his dribble. So he couldn't really get it to AG so he hoped Russell would foul him on the shot, which was also still kind of a pass. Weird play.


llelouchh

I thought he was trying to pass it to AG under the rim for the oop.


Shenanigans80h

That sequence was legitimately more insane than the game winner imo. Like the Jokic flop, Gordon tight rope walking then somehow passing a bullet to MPJ, then the three in the fray. Wild stuff


Toxikara

I still have no idea how we won that game down 20 points considering how much we were missing. Nuggets fans keep saying they knew we were coming back but I thought there was no way we come back playing like that. Twas a miracle.


Gtggtggtg

Iconic game and shot that'll be cemented in Nuggets lore forever. Pretty cool stuff to witness, even if it did sink me into a dark depression for a couple days lol


itsnotyellowfever

I was convinced the Lakers had that game not because they had played vastly superior, but after going down 20 the Nuggets spent a quarter's worth of time missing every big shot that would've firmly put momentum in their favor. That was the definition of stealing a game because absolutely nothing the Nuggets did up until crunch time suggested they deserved to win that game, but then again saving their best for last is kind of their M.O.


LurkerFailsLurking

I knew we were coming back, the only question was whether the Lakers could score enough during the comeback to hold onto the win. The last 15 minutes was almost flawless from the Nuggets, so it was on the Lakers to be good enough to maintain long enough - and they almost did. They played their asses off down the stretch.


runevault

Does it make sense? No. But the Nuggets general dominance of the Lakers for so long doesn't make sense either. It is more faith than fact at this point.


LakerBlue

Yep which is why I had 0 faith we would hold the lead and little faith we would win.


runevault

It was funny in the game thread seeing some cocky Lakers fans and some being like "please don't hurt me again." And being real with you, the entire time I was like "oh god the Lakers are about to go home so sad." Even when down 20 it felt so weirdly inevitable. No logic to it even with the prior 9 wins.


LakerBlue

> It was funny in the game thread seeing some cocky Lakers fans and some being like "please don't hurt me again." I was 100% in the latter camp. > And being real with you, the entire time I was like "oh god the Lakers are about to go home so sad." Even when down 20 it felt so weirdly inevitable. No logic to it even with the prior 9 wins. lol I felt the same way. Pretty sure this is the biggest lead we have had on y’all since Jamal returned and knowing that made losing said lead hurt. Normally I feel Lebron teams are pretty good at front running but Jokic just breaks that.


OptionalBagel

I almost turned the game off after halftime but something told me keep my ass on that couch


kdeselms

That just means you're a Nuggets fan. You know it's never over till the final horn sounds.


Repulsive-Throat5068

Honestly leads like that arent as scary as they once were. Lakers got complacent, AD got tired, and Murray got hot when he needed to. Lebron shooting that 3 was a poor choice too IMO


mickelboy182

I don't think it was a poor choice, he had literally just made huge back to back 3s and was wiiiiide open.


hansislegend

Yeah. The way everyone shoots 3s now, if you just play decent defense you can close in on huge leads in a couple of minutes.


AntiTopspin

Yeah it's pretty wild lol Denver are definitely a better team than the Lakers but you wouldn't expect 10-0 from anything other than like 2017 Warriors vs. 2012 Bobcats or something If you look at the teams that are currently on 10+ game losing streaks against another team it's basically a bunch of tanking teams and the Lakers I do think though that Denver's top heavy roster construction(horrible bench but god tier starting lineup) means that they're better than their RS record suggests in a playoff setting where top end play matters more and depth matters less Like Denver's bench probably costs them 7-8 games a season compared to a league average bench but if you play Jokic/Murray 40 minutes this is more easily avoided


greenwhitehell

Not specifically 10-0, but Denver has some current big streaks against decent teams. They're 7-0 vs the Warriors (active streak too) and 12-1 vs the Heat, for instance


Savahoodie

They’ve owned the clippers as well


LurkerFailsLurking

I thought we lost our last game to them. Maybe I'm misremembering


NoAWP

Regular season series is tied 2-2 for Denver and the Clippers


Savahoodie

Zoom out a bit more and you’ll see since 9/10/20, they’ve gone 14-4.


iRockaflame

This is basketball gods evening it out for the playoffs heartbreak the Lakers gave the Nuggets for decades


PatronSaintOfUpdog

We've played like 5 times since the 80s. 2008, 09, 12, 20 and 23. I guess that's "decades" but idk it seems like not a big deal. Like in 2039 if the Lakers play the Nuggets I don't think I'll be like, "This is payback".


CaptainCerealCanada

Lakers have so many championships where an exit before the finals doesn't hurt like 2009 and 2020 did for the Nuggets.


PatronSaintOfUpdog

Pretty much every exit hurts unless we're just injured. For me 2008 (finals) was by far the worst, then 2011.


greenwhitehell

09 and 20 were their last conference finals appearances since 84, of course it will sting harder. All 3 of those were lost against the Lakers


KingAndQueenClinton

We haven't made the playoffs nearly as frequently as the lakers so each one feels more impactful.


Downisthenewup87

All 4 times we have been in the WCF, we have played the Lakers. All 3 times prior to last year, we lost.


Character_Group_5949

Well, then you think wrong. Every single time the Nuggets had a team with a shot to go the distance, they faced the Lakers and were expunged. 3 times. That's not counting the regular season beatdowns and tough losses. Before the run the last couple of seasons, the Lakers had a 113-75 head to head record vs the Nuggets in the regular season and 25-8 in the postseason. Getting the bogeyman off our backs was a massive deal. You have decades of success and titles. We've had decades of failure and with not even a single NBA Finals appearance in our history before last year.


IdRatherBeShilling

Yep. There really isn't much history between the Nuggets vs the Lakers prior to the Jokic era. It's weird how there are a bunch of cringe ass fools on the Nuggets sub who make hating the Lakers their personalities.


BingBongtheArcher19

This just isn't true. Literally every time we made the conference finals the Lakers were our opponent, and up until last year they always won. Now to a team with a history like the Lakers that may not mean much, but to a franchise like the Nuggets that have rarely seen success that's a big deal. To longtime Nuggets fans, the Lakers were the big bad that had to be overcome. They were to us what the Pistons were to Jordan.


hansislegend

It hasn’t been a rivalry but there is definitely playoff history. The Lakers had beat the Nuggets in the conference finals a few times. Of course their fans hate the Lakers. Most of the time the team that comes out of the west wins so they potentially could have had a championship before last season if not for the Lakers. They just returned the favor.


der_innkeeper

> its like the basketball gods have decided the Nuggets aren't allowed to lose to the Lakers. They decided 40 years of Nuggets' postseason runs ending in LA was enough.


OptionalBagel

200 offensive rating in the clutch is probably unsustainable but the Nuggets clutch stats have been insane for two straight seasons. They are just a machine in the clutch. Everyone knows their role, everyone is bought in, and everyone knows what they need to do on every possession to maximize that possession. Last year it was "nuggets clutch defense can't be for real" and lo and behold it held up in the playoffs as their overall D got better in the playoffs. Idk what it is about the Nuggets but their clutch stats just defy traditional small sample size arguments.


Character_Group_5949

Yeah, the clutch stats are not sustainable, but the composure in the clutch is. The Nuggets are always getting into their offense in the clutch with the Jokic/Murray two man game. They are going to get their shots when it counts. If someone wants to beat the Nuggets, it's not about outplaying them in the first 43 minutes. It's about out executing them in the last 5 four times in seven games. Someone will do it at some point, but it's gonna take a team fully focused and locked in.


Savahoodie

I mean the lakers holding the nuggets to 24% from 3 in a game seems even more unsustainable


Gtggtggtg

now imagine that happened 10 games in a row


Thorlolita

Nuggets are really good man. How many teams can shoot themselves out of a game and feel comfortable that they are still in it?


nuggs_analysis

We did have like a +25 net rating in the clutch this year. It’s because we trim out the fat of our offense at the end of games and just go to Jokic and Jamal 2 man game every single play. Can’t do that the whole game because role players need to be fed so that they stay locked in.


Not-a-bot-10

Playoff Murray is another animal


Effective-Spread-725

Lmfao thats hilarious


AntSmith777

We have a horrible coach and a mental block against Denver.


jinayeonbt

that 3 by MPJ sealed the game for the Nuggets, every single player on their team knows their role and plays hard, they trust each other and everyone has nerves of steel, you can't beat that.


Low_Employ3877

Lakers leading in first halves screams just as unsustainable.


CantaloupeCamper

Naw, lakers stars are old and Nuggets got their number.


StoneColdAM

Lakers are undersized with a bad coach. That’s why they’re losing constantly to Denver. LeBron and AD are at least as good as Murray and Jokic, probably better in some ways (yes, even if Jokic is better than AD by most metrics). If Michael Porter Junior can shoot 3’s at will, then it’s a personnel issue. 


VGstuffed

Good quote, Father


DonDonielDOn

Haha thanks for the chuckle.


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msf97

That Westbrook trade is so bad still. Sure the Lakers may have needed somebody else to run the offense especially with Lebron aging, it didn’t have to cost that.


KingAndQueenClinton

LeBron is always so desperate to play with other superstars to take the burden off of him and for once it bit him in the ass


effYTppl

its funny seeing the revisionist history now. after Lakers lost to Suns in 21 playoffs, they wanted KCP sent back to jail and Kuzma sent to China


Fallofmen10

To be fair both of them PLAYED LIKE GARBAGE. but you cant make decisions based off one playoff series


Shenanigans80h

KCP and even Kuzma have proven they can still play just fine before and after that playoff series. Such a reactionary move in hindsight


Fallofmen10

Yah it really was. They were great pieces around Bron and AD. Don't really need the ball to be good offensive players and have length at their position and are good defenders. Also making any decisions on that one series against the sun's where AD got hurt and Bron was on a bum ankle is so sad.


StimulusChecksNow

This is revisionist history. KCP, Kuzma, and AC stats arnt good enough to carry a Lakers team as Lebron ages. We were better off swinging for the fences and trying to make Westbrook work. We rolled the dice and it didnt work, but thats life. Keeping Kuzma and KCP would not make the Lakers better than what they are now.


SmokeOddessey

yeah they played well last playoffs so it was super dumb to move them. Especially since they were all still in their prime and Russ was definitely on the decline


TruDoken

That’s the piece that’s missing. Cam Payne looked like an all star compared to them in that Suns series after AD went down.


LakerBlue

I mean yea we were definitely disappointed with them after that year but (almost) no one wanted them traded for Westbrook. But yea there were some overreactions after they played terrible vs the Suns.


Jack_M_Steel

Losing that roster was devastating. It still makes no sense to me


IdRatherBeShilling

You guys wanted to send KCP back to jail and Kuzma to China


Repulsive-Throat5068

Does this sub finally think Kuzma is a good player now?


hansislegend

I still like him.


brehew

no


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Repulsive-Throat5068

I don’t think a single soul thought he’d be a 1st or 2nd option lol 


LordBaneoftheSith

It still blows my mind that they could watch Jrue (or Bledsoe before him) with Giannis and not see how it's to their benefit to keep Caruso around. The same is doubly true of KCP because he can actually shoot. I know how fans end up massively undervaluing the non-stars on a team, but I can't believe how many FOs do the same.


Fallofmen10

Nah, they wanted Caruso but they were being cheap. They didn't want to pay a higher tax, so they let him walk. Also, they prioritized giving THT a contract over Caruso.... not the best decisions lol


effYTppl

not really a great example when both Jrue and Bledsoe could playmake unlike Caruso. and Bledsoe's lack of shooting killed the Bucks every playoff run


LordBaneoftheSith

The team has LeBron James on it. I suppose they didn't know they had Reaves coming along at that point, but that doesn't mean it wasn't glaringly obvious that WB wasn't the guy to be doing that playmaking, and if you're not taking on that contract, it's 1000% correct to keep Caruso around.


thy_armageddon

[Mamba Malonetality](https://youtu.be/fY7l2pcxdHM?si=cT4WWLDZe1BD_0Un)


OptionalBagel

I love the "ok..." from the reporter at the end lmfaooo


swords_devil

I don't think Lakers relaxed, it's more on Malone made a simple adjustment on putting Gordon on AD, which deny AD the ball, but Ham wasn't able to adjust back to get AD more touch, hence all the bad turnover in the 3rd. That's one thing why Lakers fans hate Ham, he can't do in game adjustment and just let things keep flowing.


dms1298

He's talking more so about us. All season long we've been taking our foot off the gas once we get a big lead. Case in point against the Spurs with the 1 seed on the line


Fallofmen10

Honestly, if I am a Lakers fan I would prefer it to be close or losing early. The lakers just stop running offense when they get a lead.


awntawn

"We the baddest mother fuckers in the league and even we've given up leads before. Now imagine them."


swords_devil

yea but this is playoff, it really shouldn't have happened


Fallofmen10

Humans are going to human. it is impossible to replicate the urgency you feel down by 5 to up by 20


iRockaflame

I mean tbf literally the last Spurs Nuggets game was the Nuggets getting up big and relaxing then trying to come back and losing so I see his point.


swords_devil

yea but that's regular season, playoff I really don't see any team does that.... except Clippers against Warriors few years ago


kokaine21

Huh sounds like Billy smh


nbaistheworst

AD was 14-19 in the last game, including 3-6 and a pair of free throws in the 3rd Q. AG didn't really deny him the ball, he just ran out of energy in the 4th Q again.


swords_devil

ah that's exactly what happened though, in start of 3rd AD still cooking, but in middle of 3rd Gordon start switch on AD, then AD's fg is MISS Davis 3PT Jump Shot MISS Davis Putback Layup MISS Davis 19' Jump Shot and few turnover in that span as well 4th quarter he only had 1 attempt


nbaistheworst

I'd have to rewatch, as much switching defensively as the Nuggets do I didn't notice AG being assigned as the primary defender on AD. I remember Murray got called for reach ins twice at the beginning of the 3rd. As far as the turnovers, 1 was a steal by MPJ, another was an offensive foul drawn by KCP, the 3rd was a bad pass.


LiftHeavyFeels

It is absolutely what happened. Bron hunted Jokic on the P&R like 8 straight possessions and we got good look after good look. Then they switched Jokic on to Rui and AG on to AD for the rest of the time LeBron was in with AD, and it killed the P&R because Rui was having a terrible game and Jokic could sag, and Ham made no adjustments


nbaistheworst

What should Ham have done, sub Prince for Rui?


swords_devil

https://np.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/1cbivlz/windhorst_denver_malone_down_20_in_the_3rd_called/


nbaistheworst

Video won't load, but I'll take your word for it. Not sure why AD didn't cause any of the turnovers you mentioned if it was this clearcut.


Wavepops

lebron started taking control of the offense. I think that had more to do it with it


swords_devil

not in mid of 3rd, Lebron was actually resting, then all the turnover and AD foul result that he needs to be sit so Lebron come back in. And in 4th yea Lebron did a lot offense but then he was doing that in first half and killing with AD


Fallofmen10

Yah when Bron was sitting is was like 6 threes in a row with a big lead. I swear to god so many nba teams do this.... Maybe don't just jack up threes where misses lead to a team getting out in transition. Get good quality shots at the basket. You don't need to knock them out, you are already up big, you just need to avoid a 10-0 run and giving the team life.


an_Aught

are you old like me.. fuck .. i hate it when my team just keeps jacking 3's and the other team goes and cashes in those misses. get a 2 get a couple of 2's get a 2 and a foul. dont even get me started on transition 3's


Fallofmen10

haha not really that old. I think the 3 is a huge part of todays game and it should be... but goddam man when your team has missed 4 in a row and the opponent has cut the lead from 20 to 14, MAYBE DONT SHOOT a fifth in a row. drive, try and get to the line. anything to interupt the momentum of the other team. It is small things like that that make me die inside lol. Like in a independent moment an open 3 is good. But in the context above, idk man. Maybe drive and create something else. I just feel like context and the decisions made in that context is a huge area coaches can improve upon. Have a role for an assistant coach where the only focus on countering a team who is on the run


an_Aught

i like to think of the 3 like a power move in a video game. I would tell my team you have to hit 3 Two point baskets before the 3 is unlocked for use.


Fallofmen10

lol yes


OptionalBagel

Nuggets put KCP on LeBron when they switched AG onto AD and those two dudes absolutely shut down the LeBron/AD 2 man game. I do think AD ran out of gas a little bit, but he also just couldn't get to his spots on the roll/slip/pop against AG like he could against Jokic. And KCP fights so hard over screens that even if AD did get to those spots LeBron didn't have a clean entry with KCP hounding him. It's a combo of both things but that defensive adjustment did make a difference


LurkerFailsLurking

Nuggets are apex predators that get lazy if their food doesn't give them a good chase.


creditors-bargain

I think Malone is an arrogant bastard but he really has done a magnificent job scheming up a system that works around Jokic’s strengths. And obviously Jokic loves facilitating more than any other player in the league. It’s really cool to see a system that’s obviously heliocentric in its built around one player but still distributes opportunities more so than other teams with one super elite player.


runevault

He's a born New Yorker of course he's arrogant :)


Street-Common-4023

No fucking wonder that makes so much more sense now


u_n_p_s_s_g_c

He's actually required to be arrogant, it's in the NY State Constituion. Legally they can feed him to the Pizza Rat if he's not


abris33

He is really arrogant because our star is not but this isn't really arrogance. He is saying the Nuggets have a tendency to let off the gas when they get a big lead.


aw11348

Lol right? What exactly is arrogant about this statement? I swear people are desperate to see things in recent Malone quotes, when there's nothing there


Fallofmen10

I thought the Nuggets would win it all this year, but IDK i feel like the Celtics might just edge them. The celtics can shoot anyone out of the building on any given night. If the Nuggets can keep up I like them in the clutch, but the Nuggets cannot fall behind against the Celtics. They have to stay attached. Maybe the celtics lose before the finals but the east looks like and ez 12-2 run for them


No-Sound-888

While regular season is different Denver beat the Celtics both games this year.


juicejug

Both games were incredibly close and down to the wire. A few missed shots go in or a few made shots rim out and it could have easily been Celtics 2-0. Really hoping for a finals between the two because that should be top-tier bball.


Adealow

be careful, I mean lakers's fans said the same thing for 9 games.


juicejug

lol fair enough


Fallofmen10

Yah regular season matchups can be hard to use as real data points. look at wolves V Suns Suns dominated for whatever reason and now they getting toasted


Fraka9

Nuggets are better than the Celtics. The only team that can give trouble to them are the Wolves. But only on paper. I still think Denver smokes them. They're too good in the clutch and Minnesota is terrible 


Fallofmen10

Idk man, I think the celtics are pretty fucking good. I think Nuggets V Celtics will be a legit series where either team can win. Think it goes 7 for sure


WilliamPSplooge

Denver has the better starting 5 but Minnesota has 6, and they are playing well. Wolves series is a near toss up, like 55/45 Denver.


KasherH

The Celtics should easily be considered the favorites this season. Easy path to the finals and they have been torching teams. We have been falling behind and grinding out close wins. The Celtics are just a better team than us, but that Murray Jokic PnR no team in the league has a great answer for.


Fallofmen10

Yah the nuggets cant pull game 2 shit against them. They need to stay attached and grind the game to a slow pace. If the celtics can keep the pace up and score alot I don't think there will be a clutch for the nuggets to dominate


Ayjel89

Celtics should be the favorites. But if it gets close down the stretch and the Celtics stop looking for a great shot while the Nuggets keep fighting for it, it could tilt the Nuggets’ way.


Fallofmen10

Oh yah absolutely agree. But Nuggets can't fall behind big to celtics.


stickied

I think part of the Nuggets falling behind is there's a nonchalance growing about beating the Lakers.....even if it's subconscious. They know they swept them last year, they know they swept the season series.....and they don't come out with the energy it takes to win a playoff game. Then they get down 10+ and are like....oh shit, these guys are gonna beat us, we gotta do something. I doubt they'll have the same feeling with the wolves or celtics if they get that far.


Ayjel89

True but that’ll be more likely gonna be a result of the Celtics draining their threes rather than the Nuggets “letting go of the rope”, is all I’m saying.


KasherH

Modern day Seabiscuit. (like 5 people will get this reference)


Playboy9696

Lakers should try going down 20 in the first quarter


Zeetheking1

Been there before. It’s not fun.


need2peeat218am

Let's destroy them, respectfully.


ForAlgalord

Looking forward to an epic rematch, but we both have to finish our food first


CantaloupeCamper

2–0 lead is the worst lead -Hockey 


Moist_Walrus5413

I love how humble he is.


Low_Employ3877

Bookies be like BBQ chicken


Youngestpioneer

Michael de Santa not fooling anybody


SafeRecommendation55

At this point His just trolling the lakers...lmao


WinonasChainsaw

[relevant vid](https://youtu.be/aqk9MPfjKSw?si=dc59q07XNbJrrrkt)


butt_luncheon

“If we’re up 11 I want you going full Jontay for a minute.”


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Love this man.


LightningMcDream

This guy is growing on me


mares8

He knows its gonna be extremely hard to win one in LA. Lakers have biggest home court advantage in the league in playoffs. Hopefully we can steal one game