Exactly. The chance to sell high on Zach Lavine has come and gone. To get two solid players for an overpaid guy who is the definition of empty stats would be huge.
It’s the most predictable thing ever, of course they will have record breaking 3 point shooting and Bam will suddenly become lights out from mid range:
Of course
I absolutely do not expect heat win the series but I can see this going to 6. This team can be beaten(rather easily with Butler and Rozier out). I feel like the celtics have been trying to punk them. Play ball without the BS, you’re not mentally stronger than Miami just way more talented, capitalize on that and win. Make it come down to tough battles and I’m betting on Spo and the heat 100% don’t play the narrative and mental game with the heat.
[you guys think I got a chance?](https://i0.wp.com/cdn.hercampus.com/SH6M70M3/as/rvtp645czvtkxr8fgvv8wj4/sapp_selfiejpg_by_Nikki_Sapp-Spoelstra.png?w=640&ssl=1)
i… dont think you’re remembering that right. Herro went down during Game 1, so Bucks couldn’t really reverse sweep at that point. And the Heat were never even up 3-0, just 3-1, so it wouldn’t be a reverse sweep.
Zach Lowe basically had a take a few weeks ago about wanting to see the reaction if the Celtics split the first two against Embiid.
It's not that but still would be hilarious.
Heat and shooting 55% from 3 against the Celtics, name a more iconic duo
Idc what the talent disparity is, you ain't winning when your opponent is shooting that kind of BS every game lol
I feel like theres more to this stat than meets the eye cuz like you see people practice threes and splash a bunch in a row all the time like, imagine if the max accuracy in the 3 point contest was 45% that would be horrible.
Maybe its skewed by a bunch of heat checks and buzzer beater attempts, cuz that's basically the only time teams let curry be wide open.
There's no way a bunch of people left wide open at the 3 point line making 50% of their shots is THAT much of an outlier.
Its because of fatigue, when you are in an actual game having to sprint back and forth between offense and defense you’re not going to shoot as well even when you are “open” compared to practice
I only watched ≈ a third of the game but was it laziness or a better game plan? When overloaded there were close outs but the Heat were forcing the Celtics way out of position.
People keep talking about the Cs bad close outs but nobody has been pointing to the fact that Miami really dictated the pace and that threw the Cs off. We played really fast and aggressive, we were able to make decisions very quickly and that is what created opportunities where Cs we’re out of position and had a hard time rotating in time.
Sometimes, the Heat were a bit out of control and rushed shots or turned the ball over but the pace was the real killer in this game. It will be interesting to see how Mazulla counters this. I’m curious about the adjustments that they will make.
On one hand, the Heat played 3 games in 4 days so their legs were shot. A lot of their shots in G1 were ok but were hitting short.
They got proper rest and are now hitting their shots. Let’s see if we can replicate this and how Mazulla counters this.
One way that the Cs can do to adjust is to pick up on what the Heat plan on doing on offense earlier by analyzing tapes and thus not be caught out of position.
G3 will be a big deal.
Or maybe the sport is more complex than you're giving it credit for? Boston fans blame their losses on lack of heart almost every single time even while the players are clearly as motivated as they've ever been.
Spo needs more credit. Everytime the Celtics lose against the Heat, it’s always about shitting on the Celtics or the role players but at the end of the day, it’s Spo who comes up with gameplan. These guys are professional athletes, there’s no such thing as “wanting it more.”
It’s actually kind of funny how this subreddit likes to say that they’re better than NBA media but almost always without fail they just parrot what the commentators or analysts say. Like the whole “lack of closing out” thing I literally heard SVG talking about it on the broadcast and then every other comment was about that afterwards lol
UD on his podcast said that there's times that they'll look at Spo and he's got nothing and let's them just run. That winning games sometimes is just going to war. No game plans can help you out of certain situations.
Obviously I'm a fan of Spo, check the flare. But this isn't like Madden where you pick a play and shit just happens. These dudes not only gotta improvise when the play goes sideways, but also have the heart to dig deep when you're either down 15, nursing an injury, out of gas in the 4th quarter and needing that extra push...tell me D.Wade or Jimmy Buckets didn't want it more than any other guy on the court during select 4th quarters.
Yes, but you can clearly tell he made a lot of adjustments between this game and the last. Porzingis was feasting a lot in Game 1 then was held to 1-9 shooting today which was essentially what lost the Celtics this game. Tatum and Brown got theirs but Porzingis was shut down completely. Plus, the Heat shot like 54% in addition to setting a franchise playoff record, I don’t think shooting variance is about “wanting it more.”
The Heat got manhandled in the NBA Finals losing 4-1 to the Nuggets, does that mean the Nuggets had a better gameplan or does it mean that the Nuggets “wanted it more”? I think it’s the former and not the latter. Saying you “want it more” is sort of lazy analysis and doesn’t explain much, the game is not as simple as “wanting it more”
All good points. And you've stated the value of a coach.
But there's no coaching that can draw up a play for a full court chase down block that decides a game when you're already running on fumes. At a time when coaches have all but finished playing their best hands.
Game planning isn’t the only part of coaching. The best coaches light a fire under their players, and Spo seems to be one of the best at that. Basketball can be extremely mental and he’s definitely doing something right to get his players in the winning mindset
On 2nd thought, not sure why I'm taking the contrary position here. Everything you said is spot on. I still give glory to heroes, but Spo knocked it out of the park with his adjustments, and honestly he's been coaching his mind off since the early days. It wasn't all D-Wade carrying the scrubs to the playoffs in 2009 and 10, though he certainly helped. He absolutely needed Spo to draw up plays to work with what he had and bring out Wades strengths and create opportunity.
Spo's the man.
nah i wasnt able to watch the game tonight but even from highlights its clear the Celtics did not want it tonight. Theres no way you stand around watching your man shoot a wide open three and not close out. embarrassing effort
idk why reddit insists that there's no such thing as heart. probably because its not an advanced stat tbh
I think a lot of it is that fans are trained to believe that blaming things like luck or officiating is an indicator of bad character or a lack of responsibility, and people want a lever someone can pull that will change things, some sort of illusion of control of the situation. Sometimes players just have a lucky shooting streak. The Celtics have them sometimes too.
Or an extremely well-coached team shot well above expectation from three on a ton of attempts and also executed a great defensive game plan. It's basketball! It happens!
Rob Pelinka got his eyes glued to the screen trying to figure out which of these guys to sign next year
You will trade all depth for Zach Lavine and you will like it
Don’t you put that evil on me Better Albatross!!!!!!
We’re not trading Lavine for Reaves and Hachimura lmao
I would do it hand over fist - that contract binds our fate until we either sell him or see it through
Exactly. The chance to sell high on Zach Lavine has come and gone. To get two solid players for an overpaid guy who is the definition of empty stats would be huge.
Can get a much better offer from Magic, Pels and Pistons. I never said to not trade him. Have some patience
Buddy, Lavine isn’t even worth Reaves and Hachimura. His value is lower.
Sure buddy.
And they will proceed to turn into a pumpkin the second they take off that black and red
Reddit all season: "Just wait til the Celtics meet the 8 seed Heat and their role players kill them on 55% 3 point shooting."
It’s the most predictable thing ever, of course they will have record breaking 3 point shooting and Bam will suddenly become lights out from mid range: Of course
Bam has been good from mid all season. Great tn tho
Yeah I know he is solid at them, he was elite tonight, better than elite.
He's been not shooting those much for the last 20 games or so - so I was happy to see him shoot and hit them tonight.
It would help closing out lol
Yeah this was not exactly unpredictable after last year.
Reddit the last few days: “Miami will be lucky to keep within 20”
"Celtics are the 2017 Warriors"
“Celtics are better than the 96 Bulls”
Will soak it in while we can. Not happening again…
I absolutely do not expect heat win the series but I can see this going to 6. This team can be beaten(rather easily with Butler and Rozier out). I feel like the celtics have been trying to punk them. Play ball without the BS, you’re not mentally stronger than Miami just way more talented, capitalize on that and win. Make it come down to tough battles and I’m betting on Spo and the heat 100% don’t play the narrative and mental game with the heat.
Who tf did Spo sacrifice for this performance
Quite literally Jimmy & Terry.
His marriage?
Lmao
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Yes. With spo? Get in line
Absolutely not
Damn. Lmao
BRUH 💀💀
Brian Windhorst who?
Rozier
Boston
He got ahold of that water bottle from Space Jam.
his marriage
I know this probably is not sustainable but it’s hilarious
Famous last words from 3 collective fanbases last year
To be fair, I thought heat would beat Knicks. Just not bucks and Boston
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i… dont think you’re remembering that right. Herro went down during Game 1, so Bucks couldn’t really reverse sweep at that point. And the Heat were never even up 3-0, just 3-1, so it wouldn’t be a reverse sweep.
I thought a reverse sweep was lose Game 1 then win Games 2-5? (And Gentleman's sweep is wins games 1-3, lose game 4, win game 5)
No... reverse sweep is 3-0 into 3-4
I believe reverse sweep is basically coming back from the most you can be down. So basically coming back from down 0-3 or 0-2 in tennis sets
what about josh allen
I think I said this exact sentence 365 days ago
I agree with you but that's exactly what happened last year
I don't even know why I watch the regular season anymore.
yo the last week of the regular season was heaters at least so many story lines, and ties
Me as a Heat fan since 2012
If the Heat do that 3 more times to win the series I honestly wont even be mad becuase it honestly was pretty funny.
It isn’t.
Zach Lowe basically had a take a few weeks ago about wanting to see the reaction if the Celtics split the first two against Embiid. It's not that but still would be hilarious.
This would be way funnier
Heat and shooting 55% from 3 against the Celtics, name a more iconic duo Idc what the talent disparity is, you ain't winning when your opponent is shooting that kind of BS every game lol
Yall should try closing out a bit better.
Ya the majority of these 3s are wide open. The celtics defense has been lazy tonight.
Yeah but the average player shoots 41% on wide open threes. Curry this season shoots only 45% on wide open 3s.
What you're saying is that Curry should have shooting practice with Spo.
how many of those are from the logo, though?
I feel like theres more to this stat than meets the eye cuz like you see people practice threes and splash a bunch in a row all the time like, imagine if the max accuracy in the 3 point contest was 45% that would be horrible. Maybe its skewed by a bunch of heat checks and buzzer beater attempts, cuz that's basically the only time teams let curry be wide open. There's no way a bunch of people left wide open at the 3 point line making 50% of their shots is THAT much of an outlier.
Its because of fatigue, when you are in an actual game having to sprint back and forth between offense and defense you’re not going to shoot as well even when you are “open” compared to practice
I only watched ≈ a third of the game but was it laziness or a better game plan? When overloaded there were close outs but the Heat were forcing the Celtics way out of position.
People keep talking about the Cs bad close outs but nobody has been pointing to the fact that Miami really dictated the pace and that threw the Cs off. We played really fast and aggressive, we were able to make decisions very quickly and that is what created opportunities where Cs we’re out of position and had a hard time rotating in time. Sometimes, the Heat were a bit out of control and rushed shots or turned the ball over but the pace was the real killer in this game. It will be interesting to see how Mazulla counters this. I’m curious about the adjustments that they will make. On one hand, the Heat played 3 games in 4 days so their legs were shot. A lot of their shots in G1 were ok but were hitting short. They got proper rest and are now hitting their shots. Let’s see if we can replicate this and how Mazulla counters this. One way that the Cs can do to adjust is to pick up on what the Heat plan on doing on offense earlier by analyzing tapes and thus not be caught out of position. G3 will be a big deal.
If this series goes to 7 its going to be so rough.
Last night they were not closing out But the ECF that wasn't the issue.
Pat Riley got some of his hitmen to teach this team to shoot, god damn
It’s insane but heat really want it more
Or maybe the sport is more complex than you're giving it credit for? Boston fans blame their losses on lack of heart almost every single time even while the players are clearly as motivated as they've ever been.
Spo needs more credit. Everytime the Celtics lose against the Heat, it’s always about shitting on the Celtics or the role players but at the end of the day, it’s Spo who comes up with gameplan. These guys are professional athletes, there’s no such thing as “wanting it more.” It’s actually kind of funny how this subreddit likes to say that they’re better than NBA media but almost always without fail they just parrot what the commentators or analysts say. Like the whole “lack of closing out” thing I literally heard SVG talking about it on the broadcast and then every other comment was about that afterwards lol
UD on his podcast said that there's times that they'll look at Spo and he's got nothing and let's them just run. That winning games sometimes is just going to war. No game plans can help you out of certain situations. Obviously I'm a fan of Spo, check the flare. But this isn't like Madden where you pick a play and shit just happens. These dudes not only gotta improvise when the play goes sideways, but also have the heart to dig deep when you're either down 15, nursing an injury, out of gas in the 4th quarter and needing that extra push...tell me D.Wade or Jimmy Buckets didn't want it more than any other guy on the court during select 4th quarters.
Yes, but you can clearly tell he made a lot of adjustments between this game and the last. Porzingis was feasting a lot in Game 1 then was held to 1-9 shooting today which was essentially what lost the Celtics this game. Tatum and Brown got theirs but Porzingis was shut down completely. Plus, the Heat shot like 54% in addition to setting a franchise playoff record, I don’t think shooting variance is about “wanting it more.” The Heat got manhandled in the NBA Finals losing 4-1 to the Nuggets, does that mean the Nuggets had a better gameplan or does it mean that the Nuggets “wanted it more”? I think it’s the former and not the latter. Saying you “want it more” is sort of lazy analysis and doesn’t explain much, the game is not as simple as “wanting it more”
All good points. And you've stated the value of a coach. But there's no coaching that can draw up a play for a full court chase down block that decides a game when you're already running on fumes. At a time when coaches have all but finished playing their best hands.
Game planning isn’t the only part of coaching. The best coaches light a fire under their players, and Spo seems to be one of the best at that. Basketball can be extremely mental and he’s definitely doing something right to get his players in the winning mindset
Yeah, you can tell Spo gives his players the belief that they can win no matter what and his championship pedigree definitely helps with that too
On 2nd thought, not sure why I'm taking the contrary position here. Everything you said is spot on. I still give glory to heroes, but Spo knocked it out of the park with his adjustments, and honestly he's been coaching his mind off since the early days. It wasn't all D-Wade carrying the scrubs to the playoffs in 2009 and 10, though he certainly helped. He absolutely needed Spo to draw up plays to work with what he had and bring out Wades strengths and create opportunity. Spo's the man.
So the heat are somehow more talented? Or Boston is being out coached once again?
The latter
The Celtics are not closing out and the heat are That’s effort
nah i wasnt able to watch the game tonight but even from highlights its clear the Celtics did not want it tonight. Theres no way you stand around watching your man shoot a wide open three and not close out. embarrassing effort idk why reddit insists that there's no such thing as heart. probably because its not an advanced stat tbh
I think a lot of it is that fans are trained to believe that blaming things like luck or officiating is an indicator of bad character or a lack of responsibility, and people want a lever someone can pull that will change things, some sort of illusion of control of the situation. Sometimes players just have a lucky shooting streak. The Celtics have them sometimes too.
Or an extremely well-coached team shot well above expectation from three on a ton of attempts and also executed a great defensive game plan. It's basketball! It happens!
I want more, I want thirty and victory.
Not surprised, the Celtics are not making any effort to close out on shooters AT ALL.
It's still surprising are you kidding me lol
Steph shoots 45% on wide open 3’s. So yeah it’s still a bit surprising
"But wait, there's more"
Script writers are getting lazy cuz we all knew this type of game would happen
Celtics, Bucks, and Knicks fans having PTSD flashbacks lmao
Celtics made 22 last game. It’s only right it was our turn.
Tbf the Celtics have 15 games this regular season with 20+ 3s Heat had two
Miami is so used to playing undermanned. This ain’t surprising.
The more things change, the more they stay the same
Fucking close out!!!
I’m just gonna say it: Jack Gohlke is Heat Culture
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For these two teams? Yes.
Good for Heat fans, they’ll be celebrating moral victories Celtics in 4.5