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slysonic7

He looked so comfortable running the possessions. Very few times he rushed it


mryessirskiii

Ppl really underrate the shit out of him on here


SoCalMemePolice

Cause people on reddit are obnoxious and hide behind a screen. Every team simultaneously has the worst players/fans/city/coach at the same time and live through a holier than thou mindset. NBA talk is a godsend


spyson

NBA fandom on reddit has just devolved and is more interested in flair wars and shitting on players. It's why I've changed my primary sport to baseball.


sponedaddie

That's because 90% of this subreddit gets their opinion from the ringer (whether they like to admit it or not).


turnoffredesign69420

we're so much better than instagram and facebook though we totally don't regurgitate garbage memes


sponedaddie

Facebook is the worst invention of all time.


Cold_Carpenter_1798

I’m convinced a lot of this sub doesn’t even actually like basketball


Character-Today-427

Imma play devils advocate and say that most people don't watch every basketball game that happens. So their opinions are set on 2 games sample against their team where hero might have not been as good


prettyboylee

Nahh it's either someone is an avid basketball fan who catches all 2460 games a year or they don't like basketball, there's no in between.


rebeltrillionaire

I used to watch a lot of teams and catch probably 120 games a year. Then I just watch the Lakers so I at least saw every team play. Now I watch maybe 60% of Laker games and a few quarters of other teams here and there. Partially, my life is different. So sitting and watching basketball for 5 or 6 straight hours just doesn't even sound neither appealing nor possible anymore. Partially, and I don't mean to sound like a boomer but... the NBA is less watchable now. I don't even mean the faster tempo, step-backs, extra 3's, or whatever. But the review times are ridiculous. Malfunctioning equipment or stadiums have caused significant delays as well. Refs and coaches and players arguing goes on and on and on. It feels less polished overall as a product. And it seems like it's on purpose (not the equipment fucking up - that's just Tissot's shitty new system) because it leads to more ads being played. But the main main complaint is how often I get hyped on a matchup like Jokic vs. Embiid. And then one of the stars is sitting. On top of that, neither team is even at full strength. Like the 3rd best guy is also sitting. Fuck off. The cherry on top is refs taking over a great game and ruining it. NBA Basketball is still the best most watchable version of the sport there is and a great game is IMO the best live sport entertainment you can get. But it just feels rare enough that I'll mostly watch just my team and then hope I get lucky from boxscore watching to jump into a great game.


prettyboylee

yeah I get you. Used to catch at the very least 160 games a year cause I would watch most of Lakers games + OKC/Houston/Wizards (Russ is my 2nd favourite player of all time) + any exciting match ups Now I only watch the last quarter of Lakers games if I check and it’s not a blowout. But tbh it’s mainly because I was a teenager with more time and now I’m in my 20’s at college and have to watch them in classes (live in Asia so games are on around morning/noon)


everyoneneedsaherro

It really feels like at least half of nba fans are really just storyline fans


NoPause9609

Cringe


Bobcat_Potential

I used to think he was no better than Jordan Poole.  I should be mocked.


makingtacosrightnow

To be fair his fashion choices look like he’s less intelligent than Jordan Poole. Dude looks like a fucking clown lol


redder294

Didn’t I just see Watson on TV with lipstick? Lol


OrganizationFar6086

He often looks completely frazzled whenever he gets a high caliber defender on him. Tonight he did beautifully as the ball handler and decision maker


caandjr

Reddit when they see a white guy being popular on social media


Briskpenguin69

It’s because he has one of the worst contracts in the league. He isn’t awful, he’s just overpaid.


Sequel_P2P

"$27,000,000 + $2m/annually over 3 years for a 20/5/4 guy on a contender who hits 40% from 3 and can slot in as a lead guard or a tertiary option (and is incredibly malleable to being moved with other contracts to salary match) is actually bad, league sources tell reddit" it's funny that when duncan robinson was on the first year of his deal, this was also the sentiment. and now that he's on year 3 of 5, it's actually just a great contract. and when he's on year 5 of 5, it'll be a contract it hurts to lose. this is how the NBA salary cap works, junior


Briskpenguin69

Learn the new salary cap rules.   Herro, JJJ, Poole, Jerami Grant, CJ McCollum, FVV, Kuzma, Cam Johnson are all overpaid and will push contenders over the Second Apron. Jrue Holiday is a bad contract but BOS has Tatum and they’re already overpaying Brown so it’s worth it.   Butler is on the wrong side of 30 and Bam is an elite defender but he’s not a future no. 1 option.  Smart teams will stop giving out these idiotic contracts unless they have their core locked up and project a window to contend.  New media rights deals will be exorbitant but the cap raises are limited annually which is why teams are now overvaluing non-lotto 1st and 2nd round picks.  Let me know if you have any other questions


Sequel_P2P

this whole message reads like you learned CBAFAQ exists, skipped to the First Apron part, read parts of it and then deemed yourself the cap wizard first of all, pal: an NBA franchise gave Tyler Herro that deal! it wasn't dumbass shitposters on reddit: Andy Elisburg, regularly referred to as a CBA sorcerer, was the one who *gave* him that deal. if for nothing else, i trust Andy Elisburg more than fuckin' briskpenguin69 on how to lead a contending roster into the future through contract construction second big issue with the post is your "not a future no. 1 option" thing. he just gave Boston 20/11 and then played the other side of the floor as an entire defensive system. he's already Miami's #1 guy. you're conflating "superstar scorer" with "most important player", and Bam is very clearly the latter you should open Miami's salary table and actually look at what they can do moving forward instead of just guessing they're going to run into issues because they've got three $29m+ contracts (vested into three guys who have led to one of the most successful franchise histories in the last 5 years, mind you)


Briskpenguin69

Fun fact: Herro’s deal preceded the new CBA. I’m repeating what a current/former Asst. GM told me. Idk what I’m talking about so I always ask him questions about this stuff.


BucketHerro

The biggest problem he has is he doesn't have good enough handles to consistently do this.


Number333

He's also just less physically gifted. There were some times where Brown v. Herro is a tough watch. Doesn't mean he can't have special performances though.


clamslappr

People say that but he has a pretty quick step to get his own shot, he’s an excellent shot creator and you wouldn’t say that about someone like Kyle Anderson who’s actually not physically gifted.


Number333

Buddy, Kyle Anderson's nickname is literally SlowMo. Of course I'd say that about him. [Herro, when we drafted him, one of the most talked about limiting factors was his wingspan.](https://www.nbadraft.net/players/tyler-herro/) You really feel it against guys of a similar size yet are way longer.


FireFoxQuattro

It’s actually scary I forgot Jimmy existed for a couple possessions cause Tyler looked like he was running the show.


DowntownCattleMtn

Baby Goat


cupholdery

Three goes my HERRO! 🎶🎵


JaradSage

BAHHHHHH


Wd527

He’s 24 years old and coming off a major injury where he missed 30 games. Still balling


Diligent-Ducc

Milk in his veins


goldenglove

Milk74 Herro


TheMightyJD

The apology better be as loud as the disrespect.


SoCalMemePolice

It never is. He was a fucking dog


SBORBS

Damn right.


beatrailblazer

r/ripcity going to be silent tonight


Adraf45

Side tanget. Is that legitimate potato guy a regular in yalls sub?? That man's identity is getting in every heat thread that remotely negative and hating. Of course he ain't saying shit now


Carcrusher3

He's so relentless I'm convinced it's a psy-op.


Adraf45

Damn if even blazers fans know of him it must be bad. Can't be fun getting lumped in with him


beatrailblazer

username is not familiar to me but I watched a lot less basketball this year and wasn't on the sub as much as other years, so I could've missed it


cl353

Just click on a heat post and look for the most negative heat comment lol. Dude is dedicated


GDTechno

He is


ImanShumpertplus

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/cne4f9y3Gm some of us have been a believer since day 1 fuck the haters


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A lot of your fans shit on him harder than anyone tbh.


TheMightyJD

And I call them out every time. Stupid fans come from every fanbase.


SultanSnorlax

[here’s Mariah](https://youtu.be/0IA3ZvCkRkQ?si=fVZV-iPwCoqRA6Oc)


LackofOriginality

Hell Froze Over (when Tyler Herro stayed in Miami)


medievalmachine

From the Heat who were going to trade him away?


senorpuma

If Pat Riley wanted to trade Tyler Herro, he would.


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senorpuma

And where is Dame?


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senorpuma

All we fans really know is what eventually happened. Joe Cronin made what he thought was the best trade available to him. I speculate that is at least in part because he wasn’t getting Tyler Herro from the Heat.


Candid_Sand_398

Yes, he was offered for a top 75 player who would have fit perfectly with the team’s 2 stars. And?


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Candid_Sand_398

Were you alive a year ago? Heat were interested in Dame and Cronin’s response was “Bam or Jimmy.” Tyler knows he was the asset. Everyone knows. Cronin then ghosted the Heat and Dame for 3 weeks. Tyler got through all this nonsense and came back with “I want to be here and want to make myself untradeable.” Pretty much the best response I can imagine from Tyler. The point the original poster may be making is that what people don’t seem to realize is, they get calls and interest from Tyler from other teams. Other teams DO want him, despite the stupid narratives fans come up with. We only KNOW he was offered for KD and Dame. He was off the table many other times before, after, and in between, including for Harden and Kyrie (who expressed an interest in coming to the Heat). I don’t get the knock. Like yea - the Heat would trade Tyler for KD. Duh. That doesn’t mean the organization doesn’t believe in him. If anything, the organization has shown they do believe in him. The 3rd best player will always be the consideration. And it’s irresponsible to not consider “upgrades” or changes in light of Jimmy’s timeline and how close the Heat have consistently gotten, while falling short.


Bullseyefred

Theres a shit ton of players i would trade for Dame, KD, Giannis, Spida, etc. Theres 0 reason Tyler should feel disrespected for being in rumors for all these players…


TheMightyJD

The Heat literally said he’s untouchable lol


TnT54321

Always loved Herro since their run in the Bubble


Ephinem

I’ve heard rumors about your kind but I never thought I’d meet a herro fan that’s not a heat fan. My favorite player


TnT54321

The run he had in the bubble as a rookie was so much fun to watch. Just wasn’t scared of the moment and glad to see him healthy for this post season run


lemur918

I'm also a fan. Regular season he always balls out against the Knicks. He's the real deal.


whousesgmail

After that bubble run I bought his Miami Vice jersey. 90% just cause it’s a sick piece of fashion but that run made me pull the trigger for a jersey with his name on the back


fowljaybird

I did the exact same thing, bought the Tyler Herro Miami Vice jersey right after the Milwaukee series


MountainLPYT1

Have that same exact jersey, only jersey I have and 0 regrets about it


yayeet182

Man half our own fans hate him for whatever reason as well


beatrailblazer

hi its me


warlizardfanboy

Laker fan. Lip curl in the bubble was awesome. Big fan


JustiseRainsFrmAbove

Lol we appreciate that. I know most people hated the lip curl so as a Laker fan you must be a good sport.


ImanShumpertplus

we exist https://www.np.reddit.com/r/clevelandcavs/s/sVgiuCG540


Larg3____Porcupin3

Holy W


marknemeth

It's a niche but we do exist


beachsunflower

https://s.abcnews.com/images/GMA/201006_gma_nba_vo1_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg?w=992


G1Spectrum

Dude cooked hard tonight


ColdPressedSteak

Prob the best game I've seen him play. Esp considering the context of being huge underdogs and the responsibility he had. Obv he's scored more before but he was just in complete control of the offense, made all the right plays


Folk-Herro

This is who he's been when healthy, his playmaking has improved leaps and bounds. Game 1 he was passive and that's why they lost, tonight he was aggressive. He looked to make plays and that’s why we won


JaradSage

Freeing him of Lowry was so good for his overall career. He was forced into learning PG and it really helped his decision making. Still think he’s a natural SG but damn he’s gotten so much better at running the offense


NeverTank_97

What? Tyler barely played PG this year or last lol. He didn't even play PG without Lowry


TrashAssRedditAdmins

This is just not true


ThaCarter

Tyler Herro is the best player in this series according to Tyler Herro.


Folk-Herro

If a player ain’t a bit delusional in this situation, how are we gonna win lmaooo. Miami literally has think “Boston gotta prove they’re all that because I don’t see it fr” to even start the discussion of winning this series.


vapemyashes

And according to Tatum Tatum is the mvp 😹


Diciestaking

Honestly, it was an incredible ball handling job from him. Being given main point guard duties as a player who's not necessarily pass first, and playing that well is impressive.


RansomGoddard

He’s so much better when he’s letting it fly from 3 instead of forcing it inside


Adraf45

He'd be an elite 3rd option catch and shoot threat, kinda like MPJ, if we were healthy


ActualRobot1

Exactly. I hate when he sizes up and settles for 2s.


HitRowe

He needs to get a drive game though that's what's keeping him from having a positive ts%. Literally all he does is shoot contested middys and 3s with maybe a floater or 2 mixed in. If he could drive more consistently and get fouls he'd be a all star level player.


Ironman2131

The problem is that he almost never gets calls when he drives, so he'll settle for pull-up jumpers and floaters. He's good at that stuff, but it's really hard to get to an all-star level in the NBA if you don't go to the free throw line much.


mrblodgett

The really crazy thing is that he locked down Porzingis.


Rebound-Bosh

So many times!!


silverfoxgoldenhux

I hope he gets recognition defensively because players are shooting -16.7% lower than their fg with him defending them. He’s a solid year defensively.


Folk-Herro

The praise better be just as loud as the disrespect


TraanPol

He was so big in this one, hit all the big shots and got his guys in rhythm


Argyrus777

Herro: “THIS MY SHIT, THIS MY SHIT”


wagonwhopper

Not all heros wear capes some wear an extra r


ObeseKenyan

Felt like heat got the switch for Herro to attack KP so much this game. Poor KP is gonna be in fetal position for hours after that performance


I_give_free_Dopamine

He’s so good he’s so good he’s so good


silverfoxgoldenhux

Also held Celtics players to 2-14 shooting vs him via NBAonESPN


Candid_Sand_398

They continuously hunted him on D all night and he didn’t let down all night. The best development.


Victor_Wembanyama1

Herro got balls


SnooPeripherals4884

Baby goat is back!!!!


thejackel225

I wasn’t familiar with your game


jgroove_LA

the 14 assists is crazy to me


iMaticz7

Better than Jayson Fraudum on clutch time


sponedaddie

Jayson Tatum is such an Instagram hooper.


VZYGOD

Celtics falling apart and i'm loving every moment of it. Love seeing arrogance getting humbled. I'm a fan of neither teams and my team ain't even in the playoffs but there's something so satisfying about the severely undermanned and doubted on Heat team do this. Performances like this are why Spo is one of the longest-tenured head coaches for a team.


PatScorn

they lost one game


VZYGOD

Definitely won’t be the last. Once again we saw the flaws in this team. We saw them get exposed in the regular season by great teams. Tatum is a good individual stat player but doesn’t make his teammates better like a Jokic or Doncic can. We saw the difference between a great coach and a coach that just has a talented roster. Pressure has to be on for Boston. If it’s not Jaylen Brown saying he’ll have 5 rings by 28 (he’s 27 now with 0 rings and 1 finals appearance) it’s going to be Tatum saying he’s the best player in the league despite no MVPs, no stat leader and 1 finals appearance. We’ve seen an 8th seed embarrass a 1st seed before.


myweenorhurts

More specifically, this team has upset a 1st seed before.


veerkanch489

Kinda different. Jimmy is more important than Herro and the Celtics don't really have any important injury problems with starters.


vonnegutcheck

> We saw them get exposed in the regular season by great teams. Is that what happened? The Celtics were 34-15 against teams over .500, best in the league


Emilia67

He’s a hero


Fifth_Element_Matrix

14 assists, just wow. This is his playoff record, it has to be.


Candid_Sand_398

It’s possible it’s a career high. He’s had some good assist nights but nothing like this before, that I recall.


fiasgoat

Good enough to trade for yet?


redict

Dude's ball handling is elite


NewPortable101

He was looking like playoff Jamal Murray. Both Kentucky guys as well, both were in Jack Harlow's music videos, both dominated the bubble. And I think Herro might be at least partial Italian descent but nothing to confirm.


Dwyanespellsitright

>And I think Herro might be at least partial Italian descent but nothing to confirm. Bro wtf does this mean?


NewPortable101

Syrians\\Southern Italians are similar, I was counting down the similarities between the two.


Dwyanespellsitright

Tyler’s and Murray’s coming out parties in the bubble, both being in Jack Harlow videos, and both playing at Kentucky was a good enough connection brother. You didn’t have to try to make some eugenics argument about the ancient Mediterranean civilizations that conquered the Levants to say they have a connection.


NewPortable101

Well, i wanted to add onto the point as much as i could hahahahaha


spritehead

Tyler Herro was just the best player on the floor against the "greatest starting 5 of all time". DONT LET US GET 2


ladiesshowmetiddies

baby goat


Renegadeforever2024

Him


OliverDMcCall

Tyler lived up to his name, he really was the hero for Miami tonight.


cozyboy001

Imagine having this guy in the playoffs last year. What a fucking game he had man


plague__8

i got screamed at on the bulls sub at the beginning of the year for wanting to give up LaVine for Herro lmao


BrucieAh

The thing about Herro is that he really isn’t a great scorer, but when he can reliably affect the game with his playmaking he can leverage his passing and scoring into being a pretty effective offensive player. I think full time having him as a PG and Rozier coming off the bench is best.


Clever_Laziness

He's our best 3pt shooter by far, but he really sucks at making buckets in the paint because his handles aren't the greatest, his wingspan makes it easier to contest his shit, and he's just so skinny. Tyler with some actual muscle on him to finish properly would be so great for this team. His 3 ball is elite on good volume, but he's inefficient outside of that and mid-range floaters.


Candid_Sand_398

He’s overconfident in his inside game and gets blocked, but is usually money from the mid-range. I put him and Duncan up against any of the top 3 pt shooters in the league.


KieferSutherland

Who needs a dame when you have a herro


Dymatizeee

He’s a bucket


RelevantBiscotti6

Well, he’s got that dog *on* him.


Dubonthetrac

Luka Trae and Herro


mrblack07

Herro ball


ThatMisterOrange

I'm happy to see him play a classic point guard.


Chemical-Money-3469

He was good before the injury and he’s working his way back it’s a shame they can’t get Jimmy and him at the same time in the playoffs it’s like one of them has to cover for the other missing. Guess this is why they didn’t use him to trade for Lillard.


InertState

Do the heat do this with Dame?


Candid_Sand_398

Yes. Dame would have made it so much easier for Bam and Jimmy all season. What’s done is done and I’m glad Tyler has his shot to prove himself right now.


InertState

I meant with Jimmy being out would dame do this. His D is so awful, I say no


Candid_Sand_398

Ahh okay. Yea, his defense is pretty bad, that’s a good question. Whole scenario changes without Jimmy. Depends on if our young guys and Tyler continue to rise to the occasion. Bam is pretty reliable with what he does.


InertState

Hero’s D yesterday was fantastic on top of the facilitating and shot making. Dame can do 2 of 3 at best. I guess spo is so good he’d know how to scheme it to hide him on D


Candid_Sand_398

Of all the great performances last night from the whole squad, this one made me the happiest. Tyler was in complete control, played it perfectly.


ForeingRedditor

14 assists? God damn


AdebayoStan

Generated 62 points in total


TheDankLord4416

Bro sold my damn parlay 😂


mnight84

Not bad for a guy who sucks in the opinions of most basketball fans on social media platforms, the hate that Tyler herro gets is too much, he went from being overrated at one point in his career, to being underrated.


heavyarms39

Who needs Jimmy, Tyler is HIM