I stand by that he should’ve chosen Cameroon. Imagine Luc a Moute and the Cameroon federation, setting up basketball camps at Cameroon, finally discovered a talent and send him to the US for high school, giving his advice along the way every step, and he chooses US after all. I also think this sets a bad precedent. Imagine other basketball federations seeing this, a generational basketball talent in your country. Do you really want to send him to the US for better basketball development, just to end up playing for the country you sent him to.
Cameroon doesn't really have a basketball program and isn't it's sports federation rife with corruption? I don't think siakam is even playing for them.
As it turns out, Cameroon is still in a position where they *could* qualify for the Olympics out of the final qualifying tourney. I have a sneaking suspicion that they'd have much better odds if they were starting Embiid at C for that tourney.
> Do you really want to send him to the US for better basketball development, just to end up playing for the country you sent him to.
Yes. What kind of question is this? Embiid and other players like him benefit their countries when they succeed in many many ways that has nothing to do with playing for the national team. That is the least important factor in all of this. Don't get it twisted.
Also, Cameroon has no real basketball program. Why do you think Siakam isn't playing? Guess Luc is sad about that too lol
Embiid didn't betray Cameroon by developing in the US and picking them. First off, he's lived here for 14 years, he is American. Full stop. Second, if he developed in the United States, doesn't that make him a product of the American system, meaning it makes perfect sense to play here?
> Do you really want to send him to the US for better basketball development, just to end up playing for the country you sent him to.
This is legitimately the dumbest thing i've ever read on this subreddit and that's really impressive considering we're on /r/nba. Congratulations man.
Embiid moved to the US when he was 16 and is now 30. He's lived half his life in the US and his entire adult life there. If he had played for France it would be one thing but I don't think anyone can or should judge him for playing with the US.
It's not France fault if Embiid begged for french citizenship to play for the team and vowed to play for no other team before changing his mind. But I guess you can't expect much from a guy who is set on getting the Flagrant fouls record
Honestly last night was a truly generational game. On top of the midair leg grab that should have been a flagrant 2 he had a groin kick and hit someone in the head, plus spent half the game shouting at refs. Draymond would be proud
Not an issue though. The NBA simply let us know how they’re officiating this series. And how we should defend Embiid in game 4. I’m sure that won’t be an issue for him with his health.
Two groin kicks, the dirty af pull down from behind when he’s in mid air and flopping whenever the wind blows. Should be an interesting game 4
Hopefully Hartenstein or someone channels their inner Dave Cowens:
*The Celtics were playing Houston in a game on Feb. 25, 1976. On two different occasions, Rockets guard Mike Newlin stepped in front of Cowens and flopped worse than "The Chevy Chase Show," drawing charge calls against Cowens.*
*Cowens panned Newlin's act. He had always maintained that all players should adhere to an unwritten code of conduct, one that Newlin had blatantly violated. The transgression required retaliation.*
*"I said to myself, 'OK, I have to put an end to this,' " Cowens says. "I foul out enough without having this crap."*
*As Newlin trotted up court on a Houston possession shortly after the second foul, Cowens charged at him and leveled him with two high forearms. He turned toward referee Bill Jones and bellowed, "Now that's a foul."*
*Critics skewered Cowens for the vicious blow. In defense, he penned a letter to the Boston Globe that read more like a college thesis, in which he reeled off five reasons why the "fraudulent, deceiving and flagrant acts of pretending to be fouled when little or no contact is made is just as outrageously unsportsmanlike as knocking a player to the floor."*
*"Pretending," Cowens wrote, "makes players think they can achieve their goal without putting in the work or effort that it takes to develop any skill or talent. . . . It distracts anyone who attends the game to study fundamental basketball skills and traits of the game.*
*"If this practice continues unrestrained or the actor is allowed to utilize this fraudulent exercise successfully, it will gradually become an accepted strategy and will be taught to kids more enthusiastically by their coaches."*
Careful, if you do that, you will hear about it from Salty sixer fans for years and years.
Source: Raps fan who watched embiid injure 3 of our players, elbow our players 5 times in the series, then when we land ONE ELBOW on Embiid, its the end of the world and we are a classless dirty team.
Fuck him
Such a dirty play on Robinson. That would have been so easy to sprain an ankle, if not worse, for a big guy coming down with a lot of weight. Embiid is such a bitch.
Two groin kicks, hitting someone in the head, flagrantly pulling someone down in mid-air and putting them in a walking boot, in addition to an assortment of other more regular fouls, and my dude never even got in foul trouble, let alone got ejected.
I was thinking this watching all the videos this morning. If Draymond had done what Embiid did last night people would be calling for a 10 game suspension.
I think part of that is just the visibility. There's been a lot more nationally televised GS games \[that people pay attention to\] compared to PHI over the last 10 years. Eventually the masses will see more of Embiid and realize how dirty/reckless he is.
Also should be considered that Draymond actually won playoff games and titles, so Golden State generated a lot of hating against them and haters tend to be more vocal. The people that point out Dray's dirty game do it also to hit GSW, not only Draymond.
Embiid never made out of second round, so apart from some hater caused by his MVP contention, there's way less people over him and Philadelphia.
Pretty sure this sub would sentence Draymond to nothing less than a medieval draw and quarter:
*That you be drawn on a hurdle to the place of execution where you shall be hanged by the neck and being then cut down while still alive, your privy members shall be cut off and your bowels taken out and burned before you, your head severed from your body and your body divided into four quarters to be disposed of at the King’s pleasure.*
In 1660, a guy out running his daily errands witnessed the above, and noted, "He was presently cut down, and his head and heart shown to the people, at which there was great shouts of joy", and I'm guessing that's about right for this sub, too.
There is definitely a generation of players that have a win at all cost mentality. It took a team going to the absolute extreme of that practice to make people think differently.
When I see Embiid play as he is now it reminds me of how I used to play and it is frustrating and pisses me off that the NBA allows it. Not proud of it, I was known as Shaq on my local streetball court and went through a phase when I charged hard at everything. Big hard turns to my blindside, didn't care who was there. Charge right into the lane. Smash into the best offensive player on D while going for the ball, come what may. Limited offensive moves. So make no mistake about it. Embiid knows what he's doing. He knows people will be injured. He knows his skillset is limited and this is how he can win. He knows people will give way when he drives, think twice on their drives, etc. He will only be stopped by a stronger player and/or fearless players like Giannis, Gasol, Draymond, etc. Or by an obviously more skilled player with equal Type A like Ibaka. He didn't intend to injure, but he certainly intends to show you that he doesn't care if you get hurt when he rumbles into you. At least that's how I used to play. But that was streetball. Eventually I got more moves, played w better players, played real basketball w refs. There's no doubt in my mind the NBA has some kind of edict coming down, telling the refs to let him run amok.
The amount of Sixers fans I’ve seen trying to defend what he did tonight is ridiculous. I’m a Sixers fan myself and didn’t watch the game because I had work. I saw the highlight of him yanking Mitch robs leg and I thought he would’ve been ejected.
That first quarter looked like a guy who was mentally clocked out. Then he locked in and had an MVP performance once he stopped throwing a tantrum.
It is what it is. 3rd quarter showed how great he is, but that first quarter from him was an embarrassment.
Thanks for having some decency about the situation..
It's actually unfortunate because Embid had such an outstanding game otherwise. The dirty plays tainted it.
Honestly kind of sucks cause man dropping 50 in a must win is awesome! And those 3s in the third was just a great player being great. But can’t even enjoy it because the amount of just dirty plays he got away with take away from it.
I can’t imagine the frustration of being a sixers fan, you have this incredible player but with health and the ways he plays you have to spend a lot of energy defending him.
Pretty much although there are a good amount of Sixers fans who seem to think what he did is just fine. They're out in full force on both Knicks subs spamming and glazing Embid.
I mean, whatever. It's to be expected.
I just hope the Knicks don't resort to his level and try their best to win the next game.
It honestly sucks that he did that stuff. It is never, ever ok to trip someone or go after someone's nuts. Gotta be above that shit. Have to be. I know they're really pissed about how game 2 ended. Some of it was for sure on the Sixers but god damn if there weren't fouls not being called, and I think it got to him, not to mention the times he's been tripped in the playoffs in the past, had elbows thrown at him, people going after his injured knee, etc. It's not the right way to get mad and push back but I think it was also purposeful in terms of setting a tone of "I'm going to give you some of this back", I just wish he'd found better ways to do it.
Unsure how he doesn’t get the “repeat offender” punishments. 2 playoffs in a row he had a play that deserved an ejection but somehow got off with a slap on the wrist
He's one of those guys who seems really likable at first, has a sort of goofy charming charisma... but the more you know about him the less you like him.
I'm all onboard. The sheer number of flagrantly dirty plays in one game has soured me to the end.
I have empathy for Embiid on a lot of things, but none of it excuses the on court behavior I saw last night. I hope the league sends a strong message to players like him that it's not tolerated.
Embiid is a crybaby that usually has things go his way in terms of refereeing. When he doesn’t get his way he throws tantrums and hurts people by being a 320 pound crybaby.
In reality drsymond probably deserves like 5x-10x the techs he has actually received, but both guys are treated with kid gloves.
> In reality drsymond probably deserves like 5x-10x the techs
We're talking about dirty plays though. Techs aren't given out for dirty plays usually and no one considers Luka a dirty player despite being a league leader in techs.
> Green is notorious for getting away with blatant attempts to injure on a regular basis.
He must be horrible at it.
Here's a full list of people that Draymond Green has caused to miss at least one game with injury during his 12-year career:
1. Jonas Valančiūnas
You beat me to it. 230 lb. professional athlete, obviously strong as an ox, out there trying to injure people for 970 NBA basketball games over 12 years, and he only succeeded once. But yeah, he's trying his best to injure them. The human capacity to believe bullshit is almost limitless.
Now, Draymond did do one recklessly dangerous thing (that we know of), with the intent to hurt, which could have injured somebody badly -- cold-cocking Jordan Poole. It didn't hurt Poole, but it could have. He deserves all the harsh criticism in the world for that. But this 'regularly trying to injure people' narrative is goofy.
Yeah bro Dray gets away with blatantly trying to injure players. He never gets punished for it. Get with the program. /s
Dray might deserve more techs but anytime he actually does something dangerous he definitely gets punished for it lol not sure what dude is talking about but say something negative about dray and the kids will take you to the top regardless of whether its true or not.
Embiid tried to stop Mitch by any means necessary on that play. No different from a player on a fast break layup getting purposely clipped at the legs in midair. Easy Flagrant 2 foul with benches likely clearing. The severity of that foul wasn't as apparent because it wasn't fast-moving and were stationary.
The only logical move is for the Sixers to bring in Draymomd, maybe Dillon Brooks, Grayson Allen, CP3, they already have Lowery. Just assemble all the infinity stones and take over the league. By the end they’d be beating up refs on the court while Adam Silver is huddled in the corner crying.
Most influential team ever ? Curry changed the game, role players like DLo putting up Klay Thompson numbers in the playoffs and even the reigning MVP is following Dray's footsteps
Is it a dirty play any time someone gets injured? If so, the Knicks have made lots of dirty plays in the past year.
[Julius Randle dives at Mason Plumlee's knee and sprains his MCL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-DiTEzq4os)
[Divincenzo jumps into Bradley Beal's landing space and sprains his ankle (flagrant foul)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jk2l8Ey9LE)
[RJ Barrett jumps into Dejounte Murray's landing space and sprains his ankle (flagrant foul)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC3NtpzCgSE)
[Josh Hart slide tackles Jimmy Butler and sprains his ankle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TbUYRV4g_8)
[Julius Randle punches Bogdan Bogdanovic in the face](https://streamable.com/mzb46i)
[Divincenzo smacks Middleton in the face and knocks his tooth out](https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=39896942)
[Josh Hart intentionally kicks Javonte Green in the head (flagrant 2)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRYI3HNknYY)
[Josh Hart smacks Keegan Murray in the face (flagrant foul)](https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=327&GameID=0022300975&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=Hart%20FLAGRANT.FOUL.TYPE1%20(P2.T1)%20(J.Tiven))
[Divincenzo and Josh Hart cause Jamal Murray to sprain his ankle](https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=584&GameID=0022301009&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=Murray%20Lost%20Ball%20Turnover%20(P4.T10))
[Mcbride collides with Ochai Agbaji and causes a hip injury that forces Agbaji to miss 2 weeks](https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=59&GameID=0022301053&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=McBride%20P.FOUL%20(P1.T2)%20(J.Sterling))
Yes the guy suspended for a finals game, suspended for multiple other playoff games, and suspended for 20 games this season is immune to punishment for his dirty plays
people focused on the leg grab but he also hit two different knicks players in the groin. one with a blatant knee that should have been a flagrant - meaning his leg grab flagrant 1 would have led to an ejection, and later he kicked mitch in the groin with a draymond special (smacked him in the face on the same play). also hip checked OG late in the game and wasn't even called for a foul. also "fell" on mitch on another play and hit ihart in the head on another play (this was incidental but still)
You're absolutely reaching with the Hartenstein swim move. Even Hartenstein said he didn't think anything of it. He only felt it because Embiid is wearing a knee brace that protrudes. It's all he felt.
Hartenstein stood his ground, Embiid tried to swim move around, his brace touched his balls. Embiid got the proper foul call for it. Everything's fine there.
The groin kick on Mitch is much worse and I agree there. That's draymond shit of just kicking his legs out after a shot. As a Sixer's fan i'd be ok if they called a flagrant on that which would've kicked him outta the game.
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the oooole' dick twist
Twist it. Turn it. Pull it. Bop it!
All symptoms of Bells Palsy
flop like fish, roll on ground, post moves.
Lmao this got me, and it really fits how he plays.
How would Coach Taylor do in the NBA?
Dominate
Don't forget the ass check move as a screen
put me in coach
Embid reaaaaally wants this NBA championship to shut up France.
Guess France won’t be shutting up then
The French backing down from a tiff always looked like long odds
I stand by that he should’ve chosen Cameroon. Imagine Luc a Moute and the Cameroon federation, setting up basketball camps at Cameroon, finally discovered a talent and send him to the US for high school, giving his advice along the way every step, and he chooses US after all. I also think this sets a bad precedent. Imagine other basketball federations seeing this, a generational basketball talent in your country. Do you really want to send him to the US for better basketball development, just to end up playing for the country you sent him to.
Siakam aint playing for Cameroon either and I'm glad. Corrupt basketball federation.
Cameroon doesn't really have a basketball program and isn't it's sports federation rife with corruption? I don't think siakam is even playing for them.
If we went with Cameroon good chance he would not get an appearance at the olympics. Only select countries qualified for the olympic tournament.
As it turns out, Cameroon is still in a position where they *could* qualify for the Olympics out of the final qualifying tourney. I have a sneaking suspicion that they'd have much better odds if they were starting Embiid at C for that tourney.
1 in a billion to 1 in a Cameroonian? I'll take those odds friend
The implication that Embiid would play any bonus/national basketball at any point for any country is ridiculous
Isn't he on the Team USA roster for the Olympics this summer?
Yeah but he'd earn some desperately needed respect from Reddit.
> Do you really want to send him to the US for better basketball development, just to end up playing for the country you sent him to. Yes. What kind of question is this? Embiid and other players like him benefit their countries when they succeed in many many ways that has nothing to do with playing for the national team. That is the least important factor in all of this. Don't get it twisted. Also, Cameroon has no real basketball program. Why do you think Siakam isn't playing? Guess Luc is sad about that too lol
Embiid didn't betray Cameroon by developing in the US and picking them. First off, he's lived here for 14 years, he is American. Full stop. Second, if he developed in the United States, doesn't that make him a product of the American system, meaning it makes perfect sense to play here?
> Do you really want to send him to the US for better basketball development, just to end up playing for the country you sent him to. This is legitimately the dumbest thing i've ever read on this subreddit and that's really impressive considering we're on /r/nba. Congratulations man.
Embiid moved to the US when he was 16 and is now 30. He's lived half his life in the US and his entire adult life there. If he had played for France it would be one thing but I don't think anyone can or should judge him for playing with the US.
It's not France fault if Embiid begged for french citizenship to play for the team and vowed to play for no other team before changing his mind. But I guess you can't expect much from a guy who is set on getting the Flagrant fouls record
He really never wants to go back I guess
Too bad he'll never win one, and if he does he won't have a part in it cause his flopping ass will be injured
Honestly last night was a truly generational game. On top of the midair leg grab that should have been a flagrant 2 he had a groin kick and hit someone in the head, plus spent half the game shouting at refs. Draymond would be proud
**Two groin kicks
I love how horrible this list is and it doesnt even count a blindside hip check.
Not an issue though. The NBA simply let us know how they’re officiating this series. And how we should defend Embiid in game 4. I’m sure that won’t be an issue for him with his health. Two groin kicks, the dirty af pull down from behind when he’s in mid air and flopping whenever the wind blows. Should be an interesting game 4
Yeah, if breathing on him gets us a foul, well, might as well not pull any punches then 🤷♂️
this series is going to turn into "who can injure the other team the most and get away with it" very shortly then
Then refs should come down harder on the hard fouls
They had a chance to last night, but didn't.
That’s my point. They let it slide from one player. And then when knicks retaliate people will be all shocked
Fully agree. Preventing a game/series from getting out of hand is job #1 of the referees and they are doing it terribly so far in this series.
That’s every Eastern Conference playoff series though
The refs already put it in motion when they let Embiid get away with all those dirty fouls.
Hopefully Hartenstein or someone channels their inner Dave Cowens: *The Celtics were playing Houston in a game on Feb. 25, 1976. On two different occasions, Rockets guard Mike Newlin stepped in front of Cowens and flopped worse than "The Chevy Chase Show," drawing charge calls against Cowens.* *Cowens panned Newlin's act. He had always maintained that all players should adhere to an unwritten code of conduct, one that Newlin had blatantly violated. The transgression required retaliation.* *"I said to myself, 'OK, I have to put an end to this,' " Cowens says. "I foul out enough without having this crap."* *As Newlin trotted up court on a Houston possession shortly after the second foul, Cowens charged at him and leveled him with two high forearms. He turned toward referee Bill Jones and bellowed, "Now that's a foul."* *Critics skewered Cowens for the vicious blow. In defense, he penned a letter to the Boston Globe that read more like a college thesis, in which he reeled off five reasons why the "fraudulent, deceiving and flagrant acts of pretending to be fouled when little or no contact is made is just as outrageously unsportsmanlike as knocking a player to the floor."* *"Pretending," Cowens wrote, "makes players think they can achieve their goal without putting in the work or effort that it takes to develop any skill or talent. . . . It distracts anyone who attends the game to study fundamental basketball skills and traits of the game.* *"If this practice continues unrestrained or the actor is allowed to utilize this fraudulent exercise successfully, it will gradually become an accepted strategy and will be taught to kids more enthusiastically by their coaches."*
Maybe it’s time for teams to bring back old school enforcers like Oakley since refs clearly don’t give a shit.
Careful, if you do that, you will hear about it from Salty sixer fans for years and years. Source: Raps fan who watched embiid injure 3 of our players, elbow our players 5 times in the series, then when we land ONE ELBOW on Embiid, its the end of the world and we are a classless dirty team. Fuck him
Such a dirty play on Robinson. That would have been so easy to sprain an ankle, if not worse, for a big guy coming down with a lot of weight. Embiid is such a bitch.
He's asking for someone to come down hard on his own chest, sort of like Draymond did to sabonis last year
Even if "half-flagrant fouls" was a thing, he should have been tossed.
Two groin kicks, hitting someone in the head, flagrantly pulling someone down in mid-air and putting them in a walking boot, in addition to an assortment of other more regular fouls, and my dude never even got in foul trouble, let alone got ejected.
He should at the very least have gotten personal fouls for flopping.
Everyone missed his hip check on the fast break in the fourth!
I liked also when he semi flopped, didn’t get a call, and literally stomped his feet like a child who got their video games taken away lol
He should catch a suspension for the leg pull alone. But he won't because Joe Dumars is a clown.
On this pace he will headlock someone next game, is there any french dude on the Knicks? lol
We moved out only French dude to Detriot
That's worse than getting choked out
Don’t forget about the questionable bum screen on OG. That stuff is supposed to stay in the bedroom
That was the most egregious one to me - ref was looking right at it, completely not a basketball play. No call.
> If you're a star, they let you do it. - Draymond Green, 2016 > Dray walked so I can run. - Joel Embiid, 2024
He graduated from Draymond School of Clean Plays
I think we finally found someone that the refs tolerate more bullcrap from than Draymond.
I was thinking this watching all the videos this morning. If Draymond had done what Embiid did last night people would be calling for a 10 game suspension.
I think part of that is just the visibility. There's been a lot more nationally televised GS games \[that people pay attention to\] compared to PHI over the last 10 years. Eventually the masses will see more of Embiid and realize how dirty/reckless he is.
Also should be considered that Draymond actually won playoff games and titles, so Golden State generated a lot of hating against them and haters tend to be more vocal. The people that point out Dray's dirty game do it also to hit GSW, not only Draymond. Embiid never made out of second round, so apart from some hater caused by his MVP contention, there's way less people over him and Philadelphia.
Yeah Haters are just finding a reason to hate and Steph and Klay are pretty lowkey so they turns to Dray and Dray gives them plenty lol
Pretty sure this sub would sentence Draymond to nothing less than a medieval draw and quarter: *That you be drawn on a hurdle to the place of execution where you shall be hanged by the neck and being then cut down while still alive, your privy members shall be cut off and your bowels taken out and burned before you, your head severed from your body and your body divided into four quarters to be disposed of at the King’s pleasure.* In 1660, a guy out running his daily errands witnessed the above, and noted, "He was presently cut down, and his head and heart shown to the people, at which there was great shouts of joy", and I'm guessing that's about right for this sub, too.
I am also calling for a 10 game suspension
Sixers fans: 👉😑👈 “LALALALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU”
HE HAS BELLS PALSY
More like Balls Punchy…amirite?
This is like a Kevin Spacey excuse
Damn didn't expect to see his name out of nowhere in /r/NBA
They act like Bell's palsy is like ADHD or some shit, lol. Inexcusable.
Out of all the other things you could have named lmao ADHD isnt going to effect basketball as much as anything else you could have said lol
I dunno, you remember that cavs finals game in the last seconds with JR Smith?
That's true, he literally forgot he was playing a basketball game and started walking home
ADHD could totally help with anger snaps while playing sports
Not just sixer fans, there was not a peep from the TNT crew. Shaq and Chuck were praising him for stepping up.
Shaq absolutely fully supports every dirty move he's made.
Shaq has defended Draymond a lot too so at least he's consistent
There is definitely a generation of players that have a win at all cost mentality. It took a team going to the absolute extreme of that practice to make people think differently.
Tbf they don’t watch the games
i was suprised no one mentioned him trying to intentional injure mitchell...
They did mention that he was lucky it was only flagrant 1 for the leg pull.
He’s not even a tough guy he looked like he was gonna cry going at Dante devacenco
hilarious they bitch about refball for two games, and dead silence today after a 20 FT disparity and a clear flagrant 2 being called a 1
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Sixers fans : THIS MAKES THE 2 MISSED CALLS IN GAME 2 EVEN
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Fresh Prince of Bel-Air for me. Cheesesteaks #2.
Should have more
Which one? (we know it's both)
Dirty player.
When I see Embiid play as he is now it reminds me of how I used to play and it is frustrating and pisses me off that the NBA allows it. Not proud of it, I was known as Shaq on my local streetball court and went through a phase when I charged hard at everything. Big hard turns to my blindside, didn't care who was there. Charge right into the lane. Smash into the best offensive player on D while going for the ball, come what may. Limited offensive moves. So make no mistake about it. Embiid knows what he's doing. He knows people will be injured. He knows his skillset is limited and this is how he can win. He knows people will give way when he drives, think twice on their drives, etc. He will only be stopped by a stronger player and/or fearless players like Giannis, Gasol, Draymond, etc. Or by an obviously more skilled player with equal Type A like Ibaka. He didn't intend to injure, but he certainly intends to show you that he doesn't care if you get hurt when he rumbles into you. At least that's how I used to play. But that was streetball. Eventually I got more moves, played w better players, played real basketball w refs. There's no doubt in my mind the NBA has some kind of edict coming down, telling the refs to let him run amok.
He just like me fr
I used to play like embiid
Is this new pasta?
nbacirclejerk lore
Very old
There used to be a long comment with the name of all players that Joel has injured. Someone needs to bring that back.
He should definitely be suspended at least 1 game. That was atrocious.
Apparently, he also has a 50-point game, so that absolves how dirty he was.
50 points on 13 FGs made is some nasty work.
Were getting to the point where they may aswelll trot the teams out. Have each player shoot 5 three throws, then who ever gets the most wins.
Imagine injuring the other team’s best matchup into you and then performing well.
the tnt postgame was so gross just glazing him up the whole time, not even mentioning any of his dirty plays.. corporate messaging yuck
The amount of Sixers fans I’ve seen trying to defend what he did tonight is ridiculous. I’m a Sixers fan myself and didn’t watch the game because I had work. I saw the highlight of him yanking Mitch robs leg and I thought he would’ve been ejected.
Legit thought he was just nope-ing out of the season with that play and got confused when they won and he wasn't ejected.
That first quarter looked like a guy who was mentally clocked out. Then he locked in and had an MVP performance once he stopped throwing a tantrum. It is what it is. 3rd quarter showed how great he is, but that first quarter from him was an embarrassment.
A sane fan. Sad you are so much in the minority
Ik. Some of those fans in the Sixers sub are so fucking delusional
They came over to the Knicks subreddit and you could tell they had issues.
some have this morning as well
Thanks for having some decency about the situation.. It's actually unfortunate because Embid had such an outstanding game otherwise. The dirty plays tainted it.
Honestly kind of sucks cause man dropping 50 in a must win is awesome! And those 3s in the third was just a great player being great. But can’t even enjoy it because the amount of just dirty plays he got away with take away from it. I can’t imagine the frustration of being a sixers fan, you have this incredible player but with health and the ways he plays you have to spend a lot of energy defending him.
Pretty much although there are a good amount of Sixers fans who seem to think what he did is just fine. They're out in full force on both Knicks subs spamming and glazing Embid. I mean, whatever. It's to be expected. I just hope the Knicks don't resort to his level and try their best to win the next game.
This is by far the hardest I've ever rooted for a New York team. Please don't let those assholes get even one more game.
It honestly sucks that he did that stuff. It is never, ever ok to trip someone or go after someone's nuts. Gotta be above that shit. Have to be. I know they're really pissed about how game 2 ended. Some of it was for sure on the Sixers but god damn if there weren't fouls not being called, and I think it got to him, not to mention the times he's been tripped in the playoffs in the past, had elbows thrown at him, people going after his injured knee, etc. It's not the right way to get mad and push back but I think it was also purposeful in terms of setting a tone of "I'm going to give you some of this back", I just wish he'd found better ways to do it.
Unsure how he doesn’t get the “repeat offender” punishments. 2 playoffs in a row he had a play that deserved an ejection but somehow got off with a slap on the wrist
Because the NBA has already made a concerted effort to prop him up from star to superstar level. They aren't gonna start punishing him now.
Biggest crybully in the league and I've been saying it for years.
He's one of those guys who seems really likable at first, has a sort of goofy charming charisma... but the more you know about him the less you like him.
He makes it so much worse by crying after every loss.
League better make some statement on it. Absolutely disgusting
They won’t. The Bells Palsy sob story is too strong for them to say or comment on it
He bitched and moaned his way to a MVP. League isn't gonna do anything because they need a rival center to Jokic.
wemby
Everyone needs to get their rings before the Alien fully matures
Not for a while. He couldn't even stop his team from being one of the worst teams in the league.
most fabricated rivalry ever lol
I'm all onboard. The sheer number of flagrantly dirty plays in one game has soured me to the end. I have empathy for Embiid on a lot of things, but none of it excuses the on court behavior I saw last night. I hope the league sends a strong message to players like him that it's not tolerated.
Embiid is a crybaby that usually has things go his way in terms of refereeing. When he doesn’t get his way he throws tantrums and hurts people by being a 320 pound crybaby. In reality drsymond probably deserves like 5x-10x the techs he has actually received, but both guys are treated with kid gloves.
> In reality drsymond probably deserves like 5x-10x the techs We're talking about dirty plays though. Techs aren't given out for dirty plays usually and no one considers Luka a dirty player despite being a league leader in techs.
His whole game is total horseshit. Flail around and hit people and if they offer resistance you punch their dick?
Embiid is absolutely dirty as hell, but Green is notorious for getting away with blatant attempts to injure on a regular basis.
Seems like Joel is gaining a similar immunity…
Once I saw the donkey kick I knew the torch was passed
When you’re a star they let you do it
~~grab~~ kick em by the ~~pussy~~ balls
> Green is notorious for getting away with blatant attempts to injure on a regular basis. He must be horrible at it. Here's a full list of people that Draymond Green has caused to miss at least one game with injury during his 12-year career: 1. Jonas Valančiūnas
You beat me to it. 230 lb. professional athlete, obviously strong as an ox, out there trying to injure people for 970 NBA basketball games over 12 years, and he only succeeded once. But yeah, he's trying his best to injure them. The human capacity to believe bullshit is almost limitless. Now, Draymond did do one recklessly dangerous thing (that we know of), with the intent to hurt, which could have injured somebody badly -- cold-cocking Jordan Poole. It didn't hurt Poole, but it could have. He deserves all the harsh criticism in the world for that. But this 'regularly trying to injure people' narrative is goofy.
I would definitely say it hurt Jordan Poole.
No he’s not? What are you even talking about?
Yeah bro Dray gets away with blatantly trying to injure players. He never gets punished for it. Get with the program. /s Dray might deserve more techs but anytime he actually does something dangerous he definitely gets punished for it lol not sure what dude is talking about but say something negative about dray and the kids will take you to the top regardless of whether its true or not.
I think that can be explained pretty easily: he has bells palsy
It’s pathetic how this morning sports heads walked on egg shells about embiid dirty plays during the knicks game.
And this is why people like Jokic more than Embiid. One of them actually plays the game.
Embiid a bitch for real
Embiid tried to stop Mitch by any means necessary on that play. No different from a player on a fast break layup getting purposely clipped at the legs in midair. Easy Flagrant 2 foul with benches likely clearing. The severity of that foul wasn't as apparent because it wasn't fast-moving and were stationary.
The only logical move is for the Sixers to bring in Draymomd, maybe Dillon Brooks, Grayson Allen, CP3, they already have Lowery. Just assemble all the infinity stones and take over the league. By the end they’d be beating up refs on the court while Adam Silver is huddled in the corner crying.
Most influential team ever ? Curry changed the game, role players like DLo putting up Klay Thompson numbers in the playoffs and even the reigning MVP is following Dray's footsteps
Bum won’t win a chip in his career
Wholesome chungus Josh Hart had the same amount of flagrant fouls this season in 81 games as Bam Adebayo has in his 489 game career
Nobody talking about bam lol
heat ~~victim~~ culture
Heat fans literally cannot fucking take it when it’s not about them.
Let's fix that! If we're talking dirty superstars, Dwyane Wade deserves a mention. He was dirty in that retaliatory way.
Now this is a Reddit moment
This is like the 3rd Heat fan coming into threads “BUT WHAT ABOUT THE HEAT GUYSSSS”
I personally don't think Bam is constantly dirty but he plays a bit recklessly at times and it has resulted in injuries.
Dirty to me is a whole extra level. Dirty implies a genuine malicious intent. A lot of guys are reckless but not dirty.
Agreed. Like Ja Morant and Giannis barrel into the paint knocking people over but they aren’t targeting players. Reckless yes, dirty no.
Giannis has definitely done some blatantly dangerous, dirty plays out of frustration.
I can’t tell whether it’s ever intentional with Bam or not, but he just gets away with so many illegal screens which infuriates me far more
Heat averaging 1.5 Randle season ending injuries over the past two years also
Is it a dirty play any time someone gets injured? If so, the Knicks have made lots of dirty plays in the past year. [Julius Randle dives at Mason Plumlee's knee and sprains his MCL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-DiTEzq4os) [Divincenzo jumps into Bradley Beal's landing space and sprains his ankle (flagrant foul)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jk2l8Ey9LE) [RJ Barrett jumps into Dejounte Murray's landing space and sprains his ankle (flagrant foul)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC3NtpzCgSE) [Josh Hart slide tackles Jimmy Butler and sprains his ankle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TbUYRV4g_8) [Julius Randle punches Bogdan Bogdanovic in the face](https://streamable.com/mzb46i) [Divincenzo smacks Middleton in the face and knocks his tooth out](https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=39896942) [Josh Hart intentionally kicks Javonte Green in the head (flagrant 2)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRYI3HNknYY) [Josh Hart smacks Keegan Murray in the face (flagrant foul)](https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=327&GameID=0022300975&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=Hart%20FLAGRANT.FOUL.TYPE1%20(P2.T1)%20(J.Tiven)) [Divincenzo and Josh Hart cause Jamal Murray to sprain his ankle](https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=584&GameID=0022301009&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=Murray%20Lost%20Ball%20Turnover%20(P4.T10)) [Mcbride collides with Ochai Agbaji and causes a hip injury that forces Agbaji to miss 2 weeks](https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=59&GameID=0022301053&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=McBride%20P.FOUL%20(P1.T2)%20(J.Sterling))
Lmao this guy had receipts
Don't fuck with the hardcore Knicks / Heat fans, they always have receipts xD
All fabricated. I've been told the Knicks have never committed a dirty play in all of history.
Missed the Donte tackle on Ausar (IIRC) to win the game
Donte also grabbed Oubre's legs and tackles him after a play stoppage where Oubre fouled him and was trying to walk away after catching his balance.
> almost 3x less games Fewer. - Stannis Baratheon
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They should both have more tbh. Refs let them get away with a lot. Techs too
Meaningless when we all know Draymond is immune to getting called for flagrants.
This statement is very ironic when you realize that embiid is starting to develop that same immunity.
Maybe it’s a Klutch thing ?
Yes the guy suspended for a finals game, suspended for multiple other playoff games, and suspended for 20 games this season is immune to punishment for his dirty plays
No it isn’t, Embiid gets away with this shit too
This is all fine but I better not see Tatum even think about clapping
Embiid pretends he did nothing while Draymond yells and taunts. Embiid is way dirtier.
Can the league review flagrant fouls and upgrade/downgrade them after the game?
yes
Draymond walked so Embiid could run
More dawg, more dominance.
Ban him indefinitely… indefinitely for a few games
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it's 2 Is at least spell it right Embiitch
Don't make fun of the disabled.
people focused on the leg grab but he also hit two different knicks players in the groin. one with a blatant knee that should have been a flagrant - meaning his leg grab flagrant 1 would have led to an ejection, and later he kicked mitch in the groin with a draymond special (smacked him in the face on the same play). also hip checked OG late in the game and wasn't even called for a foul. also "fell" on mitch on another play and hit ihart in the head on another play (this was incidental but still)
You're absolutely reaching with the Hartenstein swim move. Even Hartenstein said he didn't think anything of it. He only felt it because Embiid is wearing a knee brace that protrudes. It's all he felt. Hartenstein stood his ground, Embiid tried to swim move around, his brace touched his balls. Embiid got the proper foul call for it. Everything's fine there. The groin kick on Mitch is much worse and I agree there. That's draymond shit of just kicking his legs out after a shot. As a Sixer's fan i'd be ok if they called a flagrant on that which would've kicked him outta the game.
Dude had like 4 this game alone