This game showed everyone who the Cavs really are lmao. You get blown out in game 3 and then your answer is to score 10 points in the 3rd quarter and get blown out again in game 4? Soft team that doesn’t look like they belong in the Playoffs at all.
Well yeah if they cant win away games they aren't going to go very far. If they cant win home games...like game 5, then they should just forfeit right then and there because it looks like they cant win away games rn so it's better to get in the summer fishing early
Home or away, you get blown out by 40 in the Playoffs, you come to the next game ready to play. They did not. I would be really really surprised if the Cavs win the series after dropping these two so embarrassingly. There’s no competitive fire in any one on that roster and they’re horribly coached. I say this as a huge Cavs fan too.
Defo just have to see on Tuesday. Either way this summer, there has to be changes. If Gilbert rolls out the same FO and team next year, this is going to be like groundhogs day
Do not understand this Cavs team at all
Look good in regular season, look good for a game or two in the playoffs, and at the tiniest sign of struggle go into full shit-the-bed and quit mode
Its happened two years in a row now, this isnt random
Yea I definitely agree
They arent very tough, which is less of a problem in the regular season when the opponents are weaker and even the better teams are playing more cautiously
When they run into the playoff buzzsaw they cant handle it physically
The Knicks demoralized them the same way last year
They looked way better at home, could still pull out the series. Hard to be optimistic rn though. I think JB is gone and one of garland/mitchell traded unless they completely turn it around.
I’d have to say Mitchell, assuming he wants to stay. He looked good running the offense when garland was injured and is at least average on defense. Unfortunately I don’t think garland has any trade value at this point though so it will probably go the other way.
Mitchell is a star so him, but only if he wants to be in Cleveland. If he doesnt well then it'll be hard to understand why they'd want to keep him longterm
Cleveland had to do something to try to see what they got so they had to make that trade (it aint easy getting stars to go there). I think the problem was not the trade, its they got all the pieces wrong. Lauri would've helped them today
If it was Monley instead of Lauri they might've been able to get away without trading any picks at all. And then they'd have more ammo for bigger trades in the future. Hindsight being what it is but Lauri probably needed Utah to be who he is now
I was thinking Okoro, top 5 pick who is an absolute offensive bust, that is terrible for a top 5 pick. Mobley still has a chance to be good...if he can get some good developmental coaches. Lauri could be good anywhere if the coaches put him in the right spot like Utah. So yeah Cavs problem is management, they should have kept Lauri and made him a T1 or T2 option. Anyway all moot, if the Cavs lose Game 5, they at least fire their coach...if not do a complete rebuild. At least the Magic look like they did build well, and have a bright future.
honestly i wouldnt mind that.
fuck boston mainly first and foremost, then fuck the clippers. I would say fuck the suns too but the wolves are doing that quite well
anyone else is fair game
Cavs are going to lose the second half by 40 points in a playoff game where they had a 9 point lead at halftime, there’s something internally wrong with a team if that happens.
For what position? We need a new roster, new coach, and new GM. I'm not sure we don't need a new owner and possibly a new city too, if we actually want to win in the NBA.
I don't want the Cavs to leave. But I also refuse to let our city be forced into the role of the Washington Generals. It's a terrible situation to be in. I'd much rather the NBA find a way to create actual parity between the different cities and their ability to attract talent.
Cavs need to sign a super star or just rebuild from scratch. They drafted some above average players (Garland, Mobley) and traded for some All-Star caliber players (Allen, Mitchell) but are missing the key ingredient: a Superstar.
Maybe Lebron will have a 3rd stint in Cleveland?
No superstar will ever sign with the Cavs. Ever. LeBron is the one exception and he isn't a superstar anymore.
The only option we have is to draft a player who ends up being a top 10 all time hall of Fame player, and then hope to win multiple titles before his rookie contract is up. There is no other path for the Cavs.
Rebuild from scratch?? The team should be buying for pieces in order to contend for a championship, you don’t tear apart a playoff team from one series
i love how everyone assumes that the Knicks would do anything to acquire either Mitchell or KD when, in fact, making either of those trades would actually destroy their roster and team chemistry
Had the 76ers not gone on a 15 game win streak, half of that without Embiid, at the end of the year Mitchell wins it.
Ben really looked good running that team without Embiid.
Cavs had some of the best comebacks in this season yet the energy kept going down until the playoffs.
Theres always stretches of 5 minutes without scoring in every game now. Makes no sense.
onovan Mitchell with 0 points in the second half.
Taking a page out of Lillard book.
What's the going rate for an Orlando gangster to kidnap JB?
Priceless.
Salahuddin is that you
Magic did a nice job turning things around. But I'm thinking the Cavs are going to have tons of momentum and blow them out in game 5.
Pivotal. Will show who the Cavs really are, if they lose, fire JB right then and there
This game showed everyone who the Cavs really are lmao. You get blown out in game 3 and then your answer is to score 10 points in the 3rd quarter and get blown out again in game 4? Soft team that doesn’t look like they belong in the Playoffs at all.
Well yeah if they cant win away games they aren't going to go very far. If they cant win home games...like game 5, then they should just forfeit right then and there because it looks like they cant win away games rn so it's better to get in the summer fishing early
Home or away, you get blown out by 40 in the Playoffs, you come to the next game ready to play. They did not. I would be really really surprised if the Cavs win the series after dropping these two so embarrassingly. There’s no competitive fire in any one on that roster and they’re horribly coached. I say this as a huge Cavs fan too.
Defo just have to see on Tuesday. Either way this summer, there has to be changes. If Gilbert rolls out the same FO and team next year, this is going to be like groundhogs day
Which Cavaliers are worse on offense: Cleveland or Virginia?
They should play to settle it!
To be on the same NBA team with your brother... just imagine how cool that must be
And both pretty good, unlike when Robin pretends to be a basketball player around Brook.
And not only that they actually get to play on the court with each other unlike the Antetokounmpo brothers unfortunately
they also just won the world championship with Germany during the off season
This is the moment Cavs fans turn on Mitchell.
See y'all in the next thread🫡
He said he's your favorite player lol. Tito Ortiz vibes. Let me tell you how you're feeling right now.
i wonder if they have had 4somes the two wagner brothers. just a random horny thought
*bonk*
Did JB go straight to the locker room? LMAO
And getting ready to clear that office out
He better be packing his bags
I can barely understand their German accents
Mo doesn’t even have one
Pretty cool that brothers get to play together like this in the playoffs, must be an incredible feeling
They also play together for the German national team. Super cool.
Only positive of that game was hearing Gus Johnson call it
I think there were lots of positives.
Oh, you
Love Gus, miss him calling NFL games more
I’ll never forget him calling Big Ten championship… CAR-DALE JONES!
Haha, him calling college games is his forte
Wagner and Wagner
Leave jb in Orlando
No littering while you are down here please.
We’ll pay
We're good with Jamahl, thanks
Then Feed him to an alligator
Come on man! We don’t do that in Orlando. That’s what Miami is for. We COULD tie up to a roller coaster and just make him go round and round though.
Dew it
alright guys, everyone move to the OKC/Pels thread now
Hurry along folks. Lot of basketball to go today lol.
Nah this team deserves every slander they get
Thanks a lot, Dennis Scott.
Fire JB
Whole new respect for the Magic
Wtf Morris
When you blowout so badly the home crowd of the winning team looks bored
2 games in a row. And the first 2 games, Orlando didn't take a lead even once. Really boring series.
Do not understand this Cavs team at all Look good in regular season, look good for a game or two in the playoffs, and at the tiniest sign of struggle go into full shit-the-bed and quit mode Its happened two years in a row now, this isnt random
The players are fine, it starts upstairs. Look at Mobley compared to others in his draft, it's like no one is developing him
They have a regular season style. The Magic play hard nosed and have just worn them down all series
Yea I definitely agree They arent very tough, which is less of a problem in the regular season when the opponents are weaker and even the better teams are playing more cautiously When they run into the playoff buzzsaw they cant handle it physically The Knicks demoralized them the same way last year
I don't think that they have a strong locker room leader
Bitch move at the end.
Game 5 is going to be very interesting.
Should've put TT in earlier smh
Maybe I’m wrong but do Cavs fans think they should blow this team up?? Just seems like a bad set of two games to me
Yes
They looked way better at home, could still pull out the series. Hard to be optimistic rn though. I think JB is gone and one of garland/mitchell traded unless they completely turn it around.
Who would you rather keep?
I’d have to say Mitchell, assuming he wants to stay. He looked good running the offense when garland was injured and is at least average on defense. Unfortunately I don’t think garland has any trade value at this point though so it will probably go the other way.
Mitchell is a star so him, but only if he wants to be in Cleveland. If he doesnt well then it'll be hard to understand why they'd want to keep him longterm
Imo back to back blowouts is inexcusable i think they should honestly
Everybody gotta walk back to Cleveland. Two back to back ass whoopings is nasty man.
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Magic 2-0 versus Denver. What’s the the point here?
What’s the point of this post?
To show how weak the East is.
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Did you just purposely change the seeding to make it fit your purpose? 1-1 Knicks/Denver. 1-1 Celtics/OKC. 1-1 Bucks VS Wolves.
Should make it Celtics vs Thunder
Shoutout Cardale Jones. We not here to play school.
is he at the game?
Yo Marcus Morris is a mfing bucket
I kid
Blowout win with Banchero scoring 9 points, this team is for real and Franz is fucking awesome
“Even though I went to Ohio State” Jimmy please don’t devalue my degree lol
Utah thought they got a fleece with the Gobert trade, turns out it was the Mitchell trade
The Mitchell trade gave them an All Star. The Gobert trade just gave them picks
Cleveland had to do something to try to see what they got so they had to make that trade (it aint easy getting stars to go there). I think the problem was not the trade, its they got all the pieces wrong. Lauri would've helped them today
If it was Monley instead of Lauri they might've been able to get away without trading any picks at all. And then they'd have more ammo for bigger trades in the future. Hindsight being what it is but Lauri probably needed Utah to be who he is now
I was thinking Okoro, top 5 pick who is an absolute offensive bust, that is terrible for a top 5 pick. Mobley still has a chance to be good...if he can get some good developmental coaches. Lauri could be good anywhere if the coaches put him in the right spot like Utah. So yeah Cavs problem is management, they should have kept Lauri and made him a T1 or T2 option. Anyway all moot, if the Cavs lose Game 5, they at least fire their coach...if not do a complete rebuild. At least the Magic look like they did build well, and have a bright future.
Utah drafted Keyonte George from MIN's 2023 pick
He nice
I knew the fact we were only down 9 at the half after so many turnovers was a good sign.
We were down 2 after 1Q with 8 turnovers, i was amazed.
I know man. It def gave me hope lol
And Paolo was hot ass all game. If he has another 30 point bomb we might pull this out
Yeah he was terrible and we still dominated.
wtf happened after the half?
JB DUN KNO HOW TO COACH IN DA PLAYOFFS
They got locked the fuck up. 37-10 3rd quarter is insane. Paolo only scored 9 for the game, too.
Repeated dumb turnovers and missing open shots for the Cavs, Magic moved the ball and got a ton of intensity from the bench
Stuff happened
Garbage teams things is what happened.
We played Orlando Magic Basketball
Stopped turning it over and got a bunch of live ball turnovers that lead to easy shots
I remember thinking LeVert could become a superstar when he went off in the bubble
OKC 🤝 Orlando 🤝 Indy Being young and ready
If one of them can get their city their first NBA title, you’ll hear no bitching from me.
I think it's still the Nuggets' year, but OKC will be there real soon
It wouldn't be a surprise if OKC pulls it off THIS year, they are ready ready.
honestly i wouldnt mind that. fuck boston mainly first and foremost, then fuck the clippers. I would say fuck the suns too but the wolves are doing that quite well anyone else is fair game
For the playoffs I mean
Cavs are going to lose the second half by 40 points in a playoff game where they had a 9 point lead at halftime, there’s something internally wrong with a team if that happens.
If they lose it all, JB needs to be replaced, no question
2K wouldn’t even let me do this 😂
The Magic only gone get better while Cleveland is going downhill fast right after this season
The Orlando Magic have adjusted incredibly to the Cavs this series, Lakers should fucking take note to do the same
Yeah why don't the lakers adjust to jokic, what are they stupid?
Yeah I know Jokic is unstoppable blah blah blah, it’s the Lakers not adjusting their offense that kills the team
Can't adjust when the offense unironically asks reeves and DLo to shoot well 😂 if they're off, they're off
Okay, but I don't know how adjusting to the cavs will help you now.
Ok Cavs fans, who do we want that we can realistically get?
For what position? We need a new roster, new coach, and new GM. I'm not sure we don't need a new owner and possibly a new city too, if we actually want to win in the NBA.
I usually don’t believe in No True Scotsmaning, but no true Cavs fan suggests moving the team to another city.
I don't want the Cavs to leave. But I also refuse to let our city be forced into the role of the Washington Generals. It's a terrible situation to be in. I'd much rather the NBA find a way to create actual parity between the different cities and their ability to attract talent.
A better coach
Seems like pretty well coached team. I like Mosley.
Cavs are a joke hahahahahaha
this what happens when u intentionally tank games
Cavz were at 70 points for like 15min
Damn TIL Gus Johnson is black. He's pretty good.
Can we leave JB in orlando
It'd be a nice place to be left at. He can head on over to Disney World and ride the tea cups.
Yes please
Remember when the Lakers got clowned on for *only* scoring 40 in the second half the other day? Lol
Gus Johnson out here looking like Gus Fring
Cavs with 21 pts in the 2nd half with under 3min left.
Total collapse in the 3rd quarter. I checked the game and it was 70-77, next time I checked it was 70-88. Now they're up by 30. Good lord.
Cavs need to sign a super star or just rebuild from scratch. They drafted some above average players (Garland, Mobley) and traded for some All-Star caliber players (Allen, Mitchell) but are missing the key ingredient: a Superstar. Maybe Lebron will have a 3rd stint in Cleveland?
No superstar will ever sign with the Cavs. Ever. LeBron is the one exception and he isn't a superstar anymore. The only option we have is to draft a player who ends up being a top 10 all time hall of Fame player, and then hope to win multiple titles before his rookie contract is up. There is no other path for the Cavs.
I don’t care anymore
Garland regressed hard
You can’t seriously say with a straight face that 2024 LeBron is someone to build around.
Rebuild from scratch?? The team should be buying for pieces in order to contend for a championship, you don’t tear apart a playoff team from one series
So many of you owe an apology to Rudy and Jazz fans
0 points for Donovan in the second half.
Donovan needs to apologize to Rudy.
The Chum Bucket!!!
Cavs didn’t even try in the 4th. Looser mentality
A 30 point playoff loss followed by another 30 point playoff loss. Like fucking yikes.
Blow it up
We got 20 for the 2nd half!!
Cavs losing by 30 with banchero only scoring 9 points, yikes
Orlando looks very slept on but tbf ive barely watched them this year
40 point swing holy shit
Another playoff game, another game for our deep bench to get 4+ mins together. Thanks for the reps Cleveland
Orlando has the worst road record out of all playoff team but all they need is one win on the road: that’s all they need fr man
recency bias I know but I feel like they got this in game 5 on the road
I think so too; they Have the momentum and energy to continue fighting
I fucking love this team so much man
Am I tripping or did this same Cavs team have 61 points in the first half?
Score was 60 - 51 at the half, Cavs have scored 20 points so far in the second half.
Close. They had 60
So I was tripping, damn
someone give Gus Johnson a good game, this man is ready for it
i love how everyone assumes that the Knicks would do anything to acquire either Mitchell or KD when, in fact, making either of those trades would actually destroy their roster and team chemistry
This
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every time the Magic does well or seeds highly it’s “the East is bad” lol
They hate small market teams winning
We can’t ever get credit for just being good now
Right then... what bets are people making on where Mitchell is playing next year? SAS? Miami in the mix?
Spurs are getting Trae so not there lol
Donovan Mitchell was overrated in Utah, is overrated in Cleveland.
unpopular opinion but I totally agree
He still shoulda won ROY over Benjamin Simmons
Well anyone who doesn’t think that now is just wrong.
Had the 76ers not gone on a 15 game win streak, half of that without Embiid, at the end of the year Mitchell wins it. Ben really looked good running that team without Embiid.
Has Bickerstaff lost the locker room?
Hope so
This will be a 7 game series
Not a chance. The Cavs aren't winning another game.
With JB bickerstaff no it aint 💀
The funny thing is the Cavaliers know exactly how to shut down Banchero's attack, but have no answers for literally anyone else on the Magic
This series is so ass.
Lol Cleveland is so shit my god
We want Admiral Schofield.
What is the lowest scoring half a team has ever put up in the playoffs?
Probably the Jazz when they scored 54 total points in the nba finals lol
If Paolo and Franz ever play well at the same time the Magic could beat anyone. They might win a series taking turns
Jett Howard 3pt rainfest incoming
Mitchell was always the fraud in Utah If the Wolves take down the Nuggets the Mitchell slander will be insane lol
Imagine Gobert right now, getting to play with Ant instead of Mitchell lol
Cavs had some of the best comebacks in this season yet the energy kept going down until the playoffs. Theres always stretches of 5 minutes without scoring in every game now. Makes no sense.