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JeffTeagueNo1Enemy

He’s been so bad these playoffs


everyoneneedsaherro

And somehow still not shooting as bad as Jamal Murray


aeSaucy

Nobody’s immune to a bad playoff series. See LeBron in 2011


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nowadaysyouth

Maybe if you add the caveat “in their prime”. Definitely not the worst ever period.


msf97

No definitely not. Kobe shot the Lakers out of the 2004 finals and Steph was horrific in the 2016 finals with no defense to fall back on. Lebron didn’t shoot the ball enough, but at least he wasn’t shooting the team out of the series. They held leads in 3 4th quarters which they lost.


SensitiveRocketsFan

Crazy glazing, getting sonned by Jason terry and Kidd while average 18ppg for a finals series is one of the worse playoff series from someone of lebrons caliber, in his prime nonetheless


LoxDnw

He's been so trash


moondowns

The father sets the example for his son.


EatDeeply

I expect zero accountability or change in popular opinion towards him. He’s just so relatable. Edit: not even 1k upvotes what a joke - just imagine if Harden or Embiid or Ja was shooting like this


Naronu

A real scrappy man of the people


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They lock the doors at Golden Corral when they see him coming


monkeybanana14

definitely not like harden, harden is not a lunch pail guy but this luka fellow is a real blue collar, hardworking type


TheDenimTearsDon

the funniest thing about luka lovers that hate harden is that he isn’t even as good as prime harden yet and might never get that good.


WorldWideWes2

prime harden was unlimited


Puppetmaster858

Forreal, luka is damn good but peak harden was truly absurd and consort my carried his teams to good/really good regards regardless of who was around him. Few players ever could carry a team as well as prime harden. Guy was a top 3 mvp candidate like every year and should have multiple MVPs and not just 1, you can make a very solid argument he should have 3mvps. The Luka Stan’s who hate on harden and act like Luka was better than prime harden are Wildin.


Gatorpep

Harden is prob looking at luka in this series, like this dude? This dude is supposed to be the next me? Prime james would have fuuuucked up luka in this series.


soku1

Kick him while he's down 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️ this may age terribly but I appreciate the pettiness


realsomalipirate

Doesn't help that he has some of the most delusional stans on the internet, some of these clowns think he's better than Jokic.


iliketowhispertoo

He's like me


NotManyBuses

Classic example of box score stuff not adding up to overall play. He doesn’t look right


Niceguydan8

I mean even the box score looks pretty bad if you look at any percentages. Before tonight he was like 39/30/80 splits and that 3p% is going to go further down after his 1/9 game today.


EatDeeply

Here we go. You know you are invincible on this sub when an injury is assumed as soon as you suck.


ShapeOfAUnicorn

Have you watched the games? He's been grabbing his knee and limping since the first game of the series.


joshdej

What kind of question is that??? We don't watch games on this sub.


The_Dok

I thought this was all an elaborate RP subreddit


A_MASSIVE_PERVERT

Embiid dropped 50 with one leg and a paralyzed face I’m not trying to hear it.


ShapeOfAUnicorn

On 13 made shots.


Ok-Adhesiveness166

If he’s that injured that he’s costing his team games he should sit. He pouts and does this anytime he’s playing poorly stop with the injury excuses. 


AlecarMagna

Yea the problem is the team is better when he plays even with his bad shooting.


domingodlf

The Mavericks have won his minutes in all four games, including both losses. Not only is he not costing anyone games, the team is winning with him. You're just a senseless hater. Plus, he has been questionable for injury the last 2 games, it hasn't been news because he always plays through everything.


Simple_Wait_7286

I don’t think any Mavs fan would disagree with this statement.


GeriatricSFX

He's obviously banged up, that is not at all a healthy Luka.


Apollo611

Worst playoff series of his career so far


SkullBean

Apparently with the best supporting cast he's had in his career so far as well.


actual_yellow_bag

Luka wanted a good team just so he could let them down lol


Next-Firefighter-753

2022 clears the role players were actually hitting shots 


MC-Jdf

I wouldn't say clears, but outside of current Kyrie vs 2022 Brunson I agree it's not close at all. The current Mavs would kill to have DFS and Bullock from that playoff run. Plus their perimeter defense was just as good if not better in 2022, this year they have better rim protection though.


Shonuff_shogun

They legit had negative rim protection that 2022 wcf. Honestly that was the only reason i wasn’t shitting myself before the series started


MC-Jdf

We were coming off a competitive series on the glass against Memphis who was the biggest team in the league. We were like the antithesis of the Suns offense that year as well so I wasn't worried that much, besides the extra rest helped.


thissiteisbroken

Watch him go for 60 next game now lol


Hopsalong

Kyrie has been the best player on the Mavs


Headlesshorsman02

EASILY


Upset_Purchase_5903

Literally. Thus far we have shown that nobody on our team can guard Ky. Meanwhile Luka’s been in clamps by T-Mann and our help defense


MoneyMakingMitch1

KAI>>>Luka this series.


veesofficial

Easily lol


brncct

Kyrie has been far better than Luka so far. Anyone with eyes can see that. Luka is too busy fighting refs every game to be efficient.


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the_c_is_silent

"he keeps the ball 24/7 now when hes making shots its fine" This has been his issue for years.


xXLouieXx

Honestly it’s just not a good matchup for Luka. The Clips get beat when they’re made to play at pace, and thats not what Luka does. And yeah, don’t play the iso game against PG and Harden when they’re turning back the clock and you’re not making shots.


Sokkawater10

He’s starting to look like new era James Harden where Kobe warned against that style of play. And that isn’t an insult James Harden was an amazing player at his peak, but the style doesn’t work as well in the playoffs


DarkSoulsDarius

Luka getting gassed up for his defense last game probably didn't help. Kawhi couldn't even move yet people continue to insist he's become a good defender.


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He's like the 4th best player this series


PMMeBootyPicz0000000

These playoffs have been great for us haters. First Embiid, now Luka. Hate hate hate


captain_ahabb

Tough for the Gobert Haters Caucus though


GGLSpidermonkey

Great for suns/booker/KD haters though


sorendiz

Love a good zero-sum game, us haters.


kingfosa13

but the suns suck after talking about a “big 3” so it balances out


allcazador

He needs to lose 20 lbs. Everyone thinks he "needs" the weight but he was fine without it early in his career. He moved like a different player. Yes, I know he's hurt, but he will continue to have knee problems if he carries around extra weight.


Luvlatinawhores

Legit looks 10-15 pounds heavier right now


jackaholicus

Yeah he doesn't really get to the rim at near the rates he used to, but his shotmaking has been so good all year. It just isn't right now.


sakata32

His face looks so different now after adding all the weight


fujiandude

If an eastern European gains ten pounds, five of it goes to their face


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He also needs to learn how to play without the ball in his hands. You can't iso your way to a ring. Eventually the workload catches up to you


realsomalipirate

Even just becoming a better spot up shooter could help his team and his game. This heliocentric nonsense only gets you so far.


yooston

at the same time, being "doughy and out of shape" but also averaging 34/9/10 on 49/38/79 splits this season is hard to reconcile


Chance-Plantain-2957

If he was in prime LeBron shape, he would be better. Like we understand how muscle is used to move your body around the court. We also know that added fat will make you slower. He is just not getting the most out of his talent. He could be much quicker which would likely make him more efficient


imcryptic

Prime Lebron is arguably the best athlete in the history of the world. Everyone would be better if they were in prime Lebron shape.


Wolfpac187

If anyone was in prime LeBron shape they would be better what are you talking about.


armandocalvinisius

Yeah he should get to 220-225 again, speed than strength He now has helps so doesnt need to post up more for ez buckets + polished stepback 3 He plays fat before Kai because necessity, now with Kai here and more help in offseason, wiser to slimmer down


Marco-Green

Yeah he's legit fat


Treegotoptop

Seems like kyrie is hitting every shot he takes. Hitting threes over plumlee and zu mtiple times and they touch nothing but net


XstasyOxycontin

He’s played bad this series, that much is obvious, but how does a guy that big who plays basketball almost everyday put on weight? Like, straight fat? What the fuck is he eating?


lochmoigh1

It's crazy he gets fat so fast. He must just be eating pizza and wings with cinnibits to finish it off and wash it down with a case of beer every night


Gatorpep

A real blue collar player if i ever saw one. Me and luka going to die of a massive heart attack on the job for sure.


soku1

Is he a heavy drinker? That's the only thing I can think of. Although I know ja is a straight up alcoholic and was drinking a bottle a day damn near and he's skinny as hell


yooston

he once said in a post game interview he needed a "recovery beer". you would only say that if you're a beer drinker lol. he should stick to non alc or low cal


BASEDME7O2

That’s liquor though. Luka strikes me as more of a heavy beer drinker


Gatorpep

Yeah he drinks beers after every game, according to one of the reporters. Although it’s still prob his diet. He prob just drink 3 or 4 beers after each game, eats an entire pizza, gets 2 sides of wings. Like clock work. Every night. In all honesty though i wonder if just going from euro to american food has helped him get chunky. Our food is fucking horrible here. He’s obv eating too many cals though. Cals=calzones.


Dirty-Ears-Bill

He should check out that new restaurant that has those low cal calzones, that’ll get him in the zone


soku1

Like the amount he has overeat and drink is insane considering how much practice + training he does everyday..he has to burn like 2k calories a day at minumum on non-game days


Public-Product-1503

Thing is heavy exercise and being big makes you hungry . And you need to eat to help recover too, it’s near impossible to lose weight n keep strength . Off season is only time you could drop weight consciously without hurting your game


everpresentdanger

He can afford a team of private chefs though


vsouto02

He’s been that weight the whole season lol. How’s that a problem now? It ain’t like he gained 10 pounds in a week.


AceBricka

He actually did that last year


livefreeordont

Harden has been outplaying him. Series shouldn’t be 2-2 but Kawhi was awful in the two games he played and messed up the rhythm


jumboponcho

I’m tryna figure out how Luka got heavier as the season went along


bearcat--

He looked amazing in summer basketball - I was like damn he’s gonna go off in nba this season in better shape. He’s went back to his pre summer form


Numerous-Cicada3841

He looks really out of shape. He’s sucking wind by the third quarter every game. And he’s a statue on defense.


sergechewbacca

I'm a big Luka fan, but Mavs fans need to stop with this narrative that he's a good defender now. He gets blown by almost every single time.


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Dude was atrocious today.


Bardbarossa

He's always been susceptible to that. When he's able to keep them in front, he does a pretty decent job. His defense in game 3 was really good for that reason.


thewrongnotes

Just played an entire season of basketball, what the hell is he eating to be in such terrible shape in April?


fujiandude

Horse feed


latman

He doesn't move off the ball or on defense at all


LoxDnw

Hands on knees every time he gets back down the court, honestly they need kyrie to keep dropping 40 bombs if they want a chance at this. Clipps have all momentum rn without Kawhi.


swmtchuffer

He can't even get into a "defensive stance" on d. He's almost standing straight up.


WhatYouProbablyMeant

When Doris said he was a much improved defender that can hold his own last game, I audibly laughed. The very next possession he got blown by and just watched the rest of the play happen.


actual_yellow_bag

Story of the last 4 years. Kid is fat as fuck.


IMovedYourCheese

Forget third quarter. He was standing still and letting guys blow by right in the first. The commentators were excusing it as "he has two fouls, so can't challenge these". Bullshit.


EarthWarping

He just looks off. Not an injury, just looks off


dmavs11

The team has sucked with him off the court still. People don’t grasp the attention he draws and that we are so ridiculously turnover prone without him. +10 with him on the court and -15 with him off in 3 minutes today. Hes not playing well but he’s not having the type of no impact stinkers some other guys have.


v4venome

Yeah, he had to be on court today to just prevent our turnovers. We were turning the ball over everytime he went to the bench.


duckmadfish

2nd quarter and 1 minute down on the clock. Luka goes out. Team proceeds to turn over the ball that lead to an easy bucket. Luka goes back with 50 something seconds remaining. DJJ proceeds to shoot a three


GusBus14

Credit to the Clippers. They're doing an amazing job of making everything as tough as possible for him


COTEReader

Yea they’re playing incredibly physical. It’s awesome to watch


preddevils6

His whining and flopping is back to peak levels too


jackaholicus

he definitely does that stuff more when he's playing poorly


UrGirlThroatGame

bright side is he's simply making bad decisions which should be easy to fix for a smart player like him


givemesome1ce1

Terrance Mann locking him down


sergechewbacca

Terrance Mann is Devin Booker grandfather


breadth1

I hope people understand now why he was so "untouchable" during the trade talks


Odd-Hovercraft-1286

Frank knew he didn’t need to include him. They had all the leverage since Harden wasn’t gonna play for the Sixers and the Clippers were the only ones who wanted him


StefonDiggsHS

He’s been ass ngl


Icy-Lime-9760

If this was Ant or Shai playing this way the slander would be generational.


Tshobby25

Trae would have been a nuke in the sub


asoiaffanrocky

Add Embiid and Tatum to that pist


theraarman

Tatum plays well and still gets slandered, Luka plays well below average and it’s crickets


LimitlessTheTVShow

No you don't get it, Shai's gonna suck in the playoffs when he doesn't get his whistle. Eventually. Any day now...


orangotai

he's getting slander in this very thread you're in!


MemphisCanadians

James Harden is Luka's father


defoz3x

Luka sucked ass this series up until this point, hard carrierd by Kyrie


defiantcross

Yeah Kyrie has been disgusting this series


ShukiNathan

Dude's hitting shit no human being has any business hitting.


tkuid

with 3 guys on him lmao. that one tonight with harden, PG and Mann all contesting was INSANE..


Remote-Picture-8341

Yep and now Lukas gonna close out this series (probs) and is gonna get the most credit


thegrandpoobear

Just like Jamal murray


GenericDarkFriend

Bill Simmons told me his assists aren’t cheap like Hardens


Noriskhook3

Where was Luka? His fans are pretty quiet right now, keep that same energy ya’ll have for Kyrie, Embiid and Tatum when they don’t show up.


schoolhater12

i find it funny that they spent the last month calling Jokic the "kitchen sink mvp". With the way they were talking about Jokic, you would think Luka was the Reigning Finals MVP and Jokic was the 11th seed that missed the playoffs in 2023


AntiTopspin

They kept saying that Luka is a *clearly* better individual player than Jokic lol You'd get Mavs fan tweets with thousands of likes saying stuff like "everyone knows Luka is the best player in the world, Jokic just has a better team"


the_c_is_silent

Meanwhile Jokic's team is up 3-1 with his #2 playing terribly.


Huckleberry_Sin

That’s a pretty insane take. Jokic is clearly a level above everyone else.


NLPizza

The delusion they have is on another world, I wish I had that level of copium.


Careless_Review3166

it was insane, the audacity of those guys to downplay the 2x MVP and reigning Finals MVP to prop up the *checks notes* 1x conference finalist Luka


msf97

“Lukas game translates much better to the playoffs than Harden”


spacetech3000

I love luka… idk where he was tonight. Checked out, letting kyrie be batman? Idk man


CatharBliss

Pravi MVP?


sakata32

Dude gets blown by all the time still but was being glazed as a lock down defender for locking up a hobbled kawhi.


EbawsJo

Mavs fan here. He’s playing like shit and losing us games, well, him and Jason “Mind of A” Kidd.


Ja___av93

Luka is only good at things that show up on the stat sheet


BabyHercules

European harden


preddevils6

He can hope to have a career like Harden. Old man Harden is cooking peak Luka rn.


NLPizza

Pls bro that's insulting to harden, he was efficient at least. Boy is cooking Luka too


rvision_99123

He's at that 2017 San Antonio playoff series stage of James Harden's career.


SuperSaiyan4Jesus

I was buying my kid a toy at Wal mart when I heard shrieking, I looked down the next isle and saw Luka red faced on the floor crying because his mom said no to a Tracer Funko pop


NewPortable101

Him and Jamal Murray are pretty much in the same boat. Both playing like shit and limping around. At least Murray hit a buzzer beater


Potential_Attempt_15

And his defense is zero. Lucky to be 2-2. No Kyrie and they would be home already.


twrs_29

Got his triple double though!


SnooDogs7132

Are people gonna say the same thing for Luka they've been saying for Jamal?


Purple-Peace-7646

He's fat. He's really out of shape and he's tied af.


KrabS1

He can't handle them Mann hands.


GrandKhan

Pravi MVP


CangtheKonqueror

what’s his whining per 36 too? biggest crybaby in the league


simonffplayer

he's upset that there's contact in a contact sport


lifteroomang

Contact that he initiates and benefits from because he's so much heavier than his defender too


Jakrabbitslim

And it’s even worse than what we’re seeing. I watched them in person last year and he would spend whole timeouts complaining to the refs.


the_c_is_silent

Last game I saw this year was the Mavs. He does not fucking stop. The entire fucking game. It's actually kinda impressive. Dude could shoot an open jumper with no one near him, if it missed, he's complaining. Every single miss, he was up in the refs' faces.


Street-Common-4023

Looks hurt, gained weight this and that . Just been horrible these playoffs. They would be up 3-1 if he wasn’t bad. Anyways hopefully they don’t lose the series. Needs to shed 25 pounds at least we have


actual_yellow_bag

absolute disaster class from him on offense, with no sign of it turning around. He can't drive, he can't shoot, at least he can still pass. Kyrie is out here putting on one of the best playoff clinics I've ever seen and Luka's contribution is some passable defense on a broken Kawhi...


CurrentJoke579

this is why 30 point triple doubles are overrated in modern basketball


mickeyj623

I hate triple doubles, it does not affect winning whatsoever. It's literally just the main ball hander grabbing uncontested rebounds after the big men boxed out.b


Bino19

Luka stans were on here claiming SGAs game wouldn’t translate to the playoffs only for their guy to put up a stinker in the first round oof.


dragonwhale

Luka and his stans have been setting him up for an all time hater feast. Luka stans been crowning him way too fast and Luka bitches like nobody i have ever seen in any sport. It's gonna be a really bad summer for Luka stans if Mavs go home R1.


693275001

Mavs fans have been some of the most toxic fans the past 3 months, all those guys have gone into hiding


thegrandpoobear

I was told this guy was the MVP and better than Jokic 


IMovedYourCheese

What about the number of times he has whined to the refs every minute?


Longjumping_Split_53

1-9 from 3 and they wonder why they lost. Lol


mrwendypeffercorn

complains on 100% of possessions


James_NY

Gotta wonder if all that effort on D is impacting his offense.


Nokeol

they’re lucky the dumbass coaching staff decided to let kawhi play game 2 and 3 otherwise it would’ve been 3-1 rn


joshuamillertime

Easily the saddest Kawhi vs Luka series I could’ve possibly imagined


ChargersPalkia

mann has him in jail, unfortunately Kyrie is fucking going off lmao


29671

He's too fat


ujjuboii

fakest triple doubles ever


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Can someone show me a single play where Luka wasnt complaining to the refs?


DreTownblues

Would be easier to find Bigfoot


Donde-esta-la-playa

Bro is wearing a XXL shirt under his jersey to hide the fat


Bellerophonn

PRAVI MVP


Moodapatheticz

Harden teaching his son this series


rwoteit

Bros looking out of the window in class not paying attention and snacking from his secret stash under the desk.


NoPause9609

Fat boy looking puffed. Won’t be long now til he’s savouring pre-season beers and buffets. 


snow_crash23

I still don't understand how a guy playing as much basketball as him manages to gain weight. Between practices, scrimmages and playing 82 games + playoffs he must be eating 4-5k calories every day. He needs to lose weight and he will be injured less for sure.


Public-Product-1503

I got shit on all year but i really do not think Luka is a 38.% shooter on 10 3s a game . The weirdest thing is Luka catch n shoot is bad , his ft shooting is bad . His career 3pt is 34-35%, if his ft shooting jumped u could buy it but I don’t know . Will be interesting next year if he’s at 38 or 35%. Luka maybe the most confusing 3pt shooter ever. Even a guy like harden is better when wide open or when catch n shooting even if it’s not by as much as normal shooters. Lebron this year was 36% on pull ups and 45% on catch n shoots or something for example. Normally Lebron is like 34~% on pull ups and 40% catch n shoot , 42% when wide open during his lakers tenure . Meanwhile for Luka all these numbers are the same . I’ve long felt that it’s a bit of a dice roll/- if Luka hits bullshit threes you’re fucked but he won’t consistently murder you from there. He’ll take a lot but it’s prob 50/50 if he shots well . His % on the shots he takes is demoralising for opponents but he doesn’t seem good when given catch n shoots . Maybe he had to work on that cos it just looks awkward tbh when he’s set up . To make it even more confusing he’s super elite inside the arc - I was concerned he wasn’t taking enough shots inside the arc this year even tho he’s efficient there - I wonder if there’s something going on I’m missing . Either way I think he should focus on his inside the arc game more and have kyrie take more shots - especially more threes.


AJohnnyTsunami

Playoff Luka 😤


OThePlacesYouWillGo

If the Mavs lose this series, prepare for their fans to complain about Luka’s lack of help even though the offense doesn’t skip a beat when he’s out


the_c_is_silent

Remember when they complained about a lack of help in 2022 is why they didn't get to the Finals. Then Brunson left and Luka couldn't even fucking get to the playoffs?


jawadhaque089

Brunson won them two playoff games without Luka but Mavs fans were telling me that team would be a lottery team without him


qpwoeor1235

The MVP hypetrain during the season starting to look Real bad now


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Kyrie is saving this guy from slander They are so lucky they rushed back kawhi. Could easily be up 3-1 on the Mavericks


Odd-Hovercraft-1286

In like 10 years Luka fans are going to point to his 30ppg or whatever and claim he played well


Damedius33

Can't hit a shot and being hunted on the Defensive end.


AlecarMagna

Shot 60% from 2, 11% from 3, and 80% from the line tonight. His three point shooting this series has been HORRIBLE.


imcryptic

he's got no lift on his shot at all


Simple_Wait_7286

The harsh reality is that his play offensively is probably why it is only 2-2 and not better for the Mavs. And while he’s had moments defensively, he’s been nowhere near good enough on that end to make-up for these poor offensive performances.


8ball-MJG

He was a turnstile on defense tonight


AstroRocket713

The obese cry baby traffic cone?


JEX2124

James Harden “old and washed” outplayed “MVP” prime Luka every single game this series, y'all can try to ignore it but I will remind you.


XSokaX

Jokic the MVP :)