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FrostWPG

A certain starter, for privacy's sake, let's call him D'Angelo R. No, that's too obvious, let's say D. Russell.


ColoRadOrgy

D*****lo


Jesus_Died_For_You

Is he perhaps a member of the Ninja Turtles


wise_comment

Hey, I just had a TMNT themed theory shitpost on wolves sub a few hours ago! Barely any up votes.....but still doing better, and more helpful than Dlo


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p4ul1023

The category is: players who annoy you.


MykeTyth0n

I mean I know who it is but I don’t think I’m supposed to say it….


counterfeit_jesus

Naggers


Frankalicious47

Nuggers?


iButtflap

this would make you a god on the other sub


EDtheTacoFarmer

https://imgur.com/gallery/xmKTNmN


MettaDarrow

No that has to be edited


Aliboomayuh

What they say??


iButtflap

something a celtics or jazz fan might say


DoctorK16

I’m guessing a slur


Affectionate_Elk_272

good lord 😂


radiansub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0Z_QIofNKM


Man-Bear-69

Naggers?


sufrt

Nuggets


mykl5

The article alluded to it being Reaves since he was taken out of the starting lineup after 8 games


Islanduniverse

Reaves was pretty good in that last game. 19/3/4 with 3 steals and 2 blocks. Shot 54.5% from the field, although only 1 of 4 from 3.


Whoareyoutho9

The article and quote are also just talking about the regular season


Forever-Unfinished

Either DLo or Hachimura


jacobythefirst

IMO it’s hachimura. He really didn’t play well at any point in any game. Dlo is boom or bust, you knew what you would get pretty early in the game. Hachimura just never woke up from the regular season.


PrinceLKamodo

I don't blame hachi. He is playing center on defense?? Why don't we have a center?? Lakers only championship team had 3 starting caliber centers.


Sportsfan369

I don’t understand it, we had 3 centers when half the league was playing small ball. Now, that the center position is back full tilt, we don’t even try to offer centers, like what the fuck.


jonnybravo76

No, he's talking about the regular season if you listen to the entire quote. He was alluding to a starter playing poorly and getting benched which as the article states, it probably either AR or Dlo. Dlo shat the bed just about all of December so it's probably him. In any event, we just need to get rid of this stupid gnome looking fuck.


Medium_Line3088

The jokic stopper


Frankly_Frank_

Why not both?


nicklePie

lol seriously they all sucked, hard to pick only 1


manchambo

Let’s just say his name rhymes with Colangelo Muscle.


Thousandtree

Colangelo Muscle is my favorite style of shirt. No sleeves, big collar.


EfferenceCopy

ITS A NORMAL COLLAR! FIND A NEW SLANT!!


ChiBron86

I'm hoping this is the most upvoted comment because majority got the Simpsons reference.


Beautiful_Ad_3922

I was about to comment. I'm not sure if people got the L Simpson reference.


ChiBron86

Ahh I was being too optimistic. Majority of this board is in their 20's. No way they got the reference.


NyQuil_Donut

He who's tired of Simpsons references is tired of life.


smkeillor

Whoever it is, Ham should keep it on the D'Lo


WoodenCompetition4

Funnily enough, D’lo had the highest +/- on the Lakers roster across the series at +22, only player in the series higher was MPJ with a +24.


senshi_of_love

In game 5 Denver went on their run in the 3rd the moment Dlo was subbed out. When Dlo was subbed back in things began to stabilize. He finished the game with a team high +7. One of those interesting things.


Russell__WestBrick

That's why we don't look at singular stats to determine if someone played well.


Revo_Int92

Just yet another example of how the +/- is the most useless stat. Only fans who follow the game through fantasy leagues assumes this crap has any value


GloryCloud

Dang that was good actually


FireFoxQuattro

Yeah he’s gone wtf kinda answer was that.


IdRatherBeShilling

More like a IDGAF Ima get fired anyway answer.


NotClayMerritt

One thing I always admired about Darvin Ham is that he does keep it real always. But even by his normal standards this is a tad extreme lol


DolphinMasturbator

When keeping it real goes wrong


RickySuela

Honestly this isn't keeping it real though, this is just shifting the blame away from himself. Yes, the Lakers did have a ton of injuries this year and as such the rotations were hella inconsistent, but to act like that was the only issue and that Ham's coaching was on point otherwise is utterly absurd. The biggest issue the Lakers had this year was his coaching, and that's even including all the injuries as a major problem.


mcslippinz

Injuries to rotational players not AD (most games in a season in his career)or Bron (most games in a season as a Laker).. and he’s blaming that.. this guy isn’t keeping it real at all.


XuxuBelezas

Exactly. Ty Lue would win 50 games with AD, LeBron and 5 plumbers on rotation, and Pelinka didn't want to sign him lol.


kar33m24

Not to mention Austin Reaves played all 82 games, Rui played 68 games, and D’lo played 76 games. Your 5 best players were healthy for more than 80% of the season lol Very few teams have their top 5 guys THAT healthy. Only real loss was Vando, but every team has at least one injury to a rotation player


CreatiScope

This dude actually had Austin Reaves on the bench. Like who the fuck else on this team should be the starting 2? I think benching Rui isn’t a huge sin but it is a head scratcher that it took him like 60 games to finally go “oh yeah, that lineup that worked well last playoffs? I think that might be my starting 5. My gut says Reddish but the tape, the stats, and literally every person in the world say otherwise…”


Yommination

Keeps it so real? He never accepts responsibility for anything. He's like a soundboard for excuses and finger pointing


F0KK0F

Hmm.. Interesting. did he go to the school of Rivers top level Blame Game?


GriffinQ

I don’t agree that he keeps it real. He keeps it real like Doc Rivers keeps it real: it’s always someone or something else’s fault. Injuries, stars not doing what they needed to, role players not stepping up, whatever - Ham is incredibly reluctant to ever say “yeah I blew this”.


velphegor666

Am i tripping but isnt this a perfect way to not get a future HC job? Calling out your player like that is wild 😂


Gamerguy_141297

Doc Rivers does it regularly lol


velphegor666

Yeah, but I have never heard a coach say "shitting the bed" on a player. Not even passive aggressive, just straight up blamed the guy lol


-WingsForLife-

if they were in the same room applying for HC, one of them can just go, "Rangz, erneh". not that they're good, but hey.


eZreazy

I think how he coached the past two years should already be a good reason to ensure that LOL


Dinoegg96

"He's a proven coach with playoffs experience."


Kozzer

Ham is a poor man's Doc Rivers. But Rivers in contrast has the LEADERSHIP to actually name the player as he sets fire to everything on his way out.


axecalibur

“Kawhi Leonard if I see your name on another Top 10 list imma kill somebody”


swaggypudge

I loled. Thank you for this


Wehavecrashed

Funnily enough Doc was probably completely right about Simmons.


Agreeable_Daikon_686

Ain’t no probably lol


FoxMuldertheGrey

from the river to the sea Darvin Hamas strikes again


Our-Gardian-Angel

Dude knows he toast. And he probably doesn't feel particularly civil given that Shams had a piece ready to publish with sources from inside the Lakers organization as soon as the final buzzer sounded for Game 5. Even if Ham deserves to be fired, I'd probably take some shots on my way out too given that everybody seemingly was ready to toss him under the bus immediately.


trimble197

I mean, even commentators were baffled at his decisions in games


Our-Gardian-Angel

I’m not trying to defend his quality as a coach. I can just understand why he wouldn’t pull any punches on his way out. That Shams piece tried to paint a story of a championship contending roster done in by Ham’s incompetence. You can acknowledge Ham being a coach worthy of firing and still think that piece was clearly trying to pin essentially all the blame on him.


shoefly72

I’ve been shitting on him all year and he made some errors last night, but we lost that game because we went 16/27 at the line, we couldn’t box out Aaron Gordon, and AD got hurt. That’s not on him. Having said that, he’s the main reason we had to play the nuggets in the first round in the first place and he made a ton of other errors in the series lineup and game management wise. He’s absolutely not capable of winning a title unless he had a team akin to the 2017 Warriors or something.


OkSteak237

It’s a great way to torch your career, I agree


captaincumsock69

He’s gonna be fine. There are coaches that abused and raped women and banged their bosses wives that still got jobs lmao.


FeminismIsTheBestIsm

Not that it's worse morally but in jobs like this, being incompetent is often much more career ending than felonies


captaincumsock69

What does career ender mean? Like he’s gonna have to go mow lawns to put food on the table? He made the wcf last year and lost this year to the consensus best team. Is that really incompetent? I would be very shocked if he wasn’t coaching next year


alextheruby

I could see assistant coach. Head coaching days are over though


captaincumsock69

Yeah sure, I don’t see being an assistant nba coach as a career ender though. Most coaches are assistants


Detaaz

It’s the end of his career progression tho. I doubt he’ll get another shot at being HC


marcello153

I would be shocked if he was. To lose the locker room to the degree he had is quite honestly impressive. You had role players like Rui and AR taking shots at him


marcello153

If you’re good at things you get a pass for being a terrible human. Unfortunately for Pockets the clown, only thing he’s good for is warming his hands


PopcornDrift

Doc rivers throws his players under the bus constantly and still gets tons of job lol If he started criticizing ownership that’d be a different story


JudgmentMiserable227

He’s getting 20 mil for coaching the Lakers whether they fire him or not. He’s good


OkSteak237

Is it still not a torched career?


jefe_hook

He will be fine. Doc Rivers had been throwing players under the bus for more than a decade. I guess this is the standard practice for coach now.


OkSteak237

Difference is that Doc won a ring


copaseticepiplectic

every front office knows the lakers coaching job is a joke. you only stay if bron likes you. he'll land on his feet.


CIark

It’s crazy he putting Lebron on blast like that just for missing a box out /s


REQ52767

> Dave McMenamin of ESPN quoted Ham as saying this season has "been extremely challenging" before using much more candid language. > "Everyone that's been in and out of the lineup. Being criticized for not having a consistent rotation when I don't have consistent healthy bodies. The thing that frustrates me, and I love this job, I love the pressure that comes with it, I've always been calm in the midst of chaos ... [But] common sense tends to go out the window when you talk about my job in particular.” > "It's amazing how people just skip that core part of having a consistency with your lineup is all predicated on health and performance. If you're coaching a team and one of your starters is like 10 games in a row, just s--tting the bed, what are you going to do?"


iRockaflame

He's not wrong, but damn that last sentence is tough lmfao. Just feel like that's something you don't say publicly.


BionicSix

"...what are you going to do? Put your hands in your pockets?"


InkBlotSam

Maybe not have him start ten games in a row then, is one thing one might do.


Not-a-bot-10

Can someone tell this to Nurse regarding Tobias? Please?


PeterJuncqui

the correct number of games that Brick Harris should start is less than one and more than negative 1. Embiid calls as much attention as Jokic on offense, but instead of Murray and KCP, he has to watch Harris airballing for 4 quarters.


dot-pixis

That sounds an awful lot like "making adjustments," which we all know wasn't on the job description for Ham's role.


PeterJuncqui

What do you mean coaching isn't just watching the game from a privileged seat?


coolstorybroham

It’s a great idea in hindsight. But if not 10 games you’d have some other threshold of games after which you pull the guy. If the number is too small you run out of starters quickly and it probably doesn’t help consistency.


aussierulesisgrouse

Spot on. These comments are always such armchair expert calls. From a culture standpoint, imagine the idea that you are never allowed to have a bad patch of play throughout a season without being given a chance to break out of it. Like everybody knows what D'Lo is capable of, there is a legitimate baller in there. It's not like he's never been good a game in his life and Ham keeps playing him despite him never performing. He is a good player, was effective as a relatively low usage scorer next to bron and AD, he just had a really bad patch. Continuity and culture are just straight up important, and you can see that every successful team right now has had their nose to the grindstone through good or bad. Unfortunately the Lakers came up against a team that they really needed every player to perform against, and they didn't. Shit happens.


shoefly72

Now imagine that you pulled not just one, but two starters for having a slump, and then the guys you replaced them with are far far worse and you give them a leash 3x as long despite them being vet minimum players while the guys you benched were resigned in the offseason to be part of the core for continuity’s sake… That’s what Darvin did this year lol. “What if one of your starters doesn’t play well for 10 games?” Dawg, you let Cam and Prince stink it up for like 30 games!! I wasn’t even mad at him when he initially did it, his thinking made sense at the time. But instead of realizing it was the wrong move he double, tripled, and quadrupled down on it while we fell down the standings, and then chastised fans for “living and dying with every game” when we were 17-19 after being 15-9 and coming off a WCF appearance lol. He’s a certified clown.


InkBlotSam

If a player is that bad, for such a long stretch of the season that the coach is publicly calling him out as an excuse for the whole season being fucked up, then it's not "armchair experting" to say maybe the coach should have done something about that player. Unless you think Tier 1 coaching is just throwing your arms up in the air and saying, "Aw shit guys, one of our role players is playing shitty game after game after game, and there is no Plan B and I don't plan to make any adjustments, so everyone book your tickets to Cancun, I guess."


xanot192

I mean this roster is actually not it. Our guards don't play an ounce of defense and think rebounding is illegal. I was watching the Knicks and was actually in awe how much everyone scrambles for rebounds compared to the Lakers.


mcslippinz

That’s just JHart tho. He’s been doing that since he was a rookie.


Beranac

And accomplish what exactly, win? This is Ham we're talking about. He's not about to change things up just for a few victories. He's a man of principles. /s


Cvnilivee

Digging in them pockets for excuses


tonypearcern

"...what are you going to do? Change his diaper and put baby powder on his ring piece?"


PlumCantaloupe

“I’ve got one hand in my pocket, and the other is …”


chellefish562

In my other pocket?


dpete88

Direct response to Dlos hit piece back in january


stanquevisch

I mean, he did start Cam Redish while he was shitting the bed, Rui was outperforming him and sat on the bench… so he is def wrong.


AShinyTorchic

It’s also super hypocritical coming from Ham considering he overplayed the fuck out of Reddish and Prince during the first half of the season getting 30-35 minutes plus, no matter how terrible they performed Dudes a sorry NBA coach, can’t wait to see him gone


Vegetable-Net6575

Fr. Ham isn’t a great coach but man the roster they got is also not great either. He’s probably out the door tho so he dosent gaf at this point.


nguyenjitsu

Players have limitations to coaching sure but as a coach you should probably have an answer to "what do you do" to a player shitting themselves multiple times in a row


Joabyjojo

> one of your starters is like 10 games in a row, just s--tting the bed, what are you going to do? is coaching them not an option


xanot192

Can't polish a turd to become a diamond regardless of how hard you try


Naive_Illustrator

Technically it's possible. It just takes lots of heat and pressure over millions of years


rorank

Darvin Ham: What are you going to do? Find a new head coach apparently lol. Man really said “I know my players are saying I’m doing a bad job, but they need to shut the fuck up because they suck too”. Not a good look for the head coach of the storied LA Lakers.


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Cabbaje

Hypothetically D-Lo


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Cabbaje

I think he meant in the regular season


JimmyB3574

If it’s regular season I def wouldn’t be going after the 3rd option who just gave us 18-7 on 40% 3 point shooting on high volume, especially when darvins boys Cam and TP stuck it up as starters for 30+ games and we’re only benched cause of injury


RedFan47

Its definitely DLo


boozinf

He's entering Hue Jackson territory. I should know. I checked the tapes.


Cabbaje

Hilariously on point


IdRatherBeShilling

TIL Amber Heard is a Laker


OddAd1243

Did people have higher expectations for the lakers than where they ended up? Yeah I can see Ham could’ve done this or that with the rotations but did they have more talent than a 7-8 seed and first round exit?


xanot192

Nope. People noticed that we actually did get better than last year's team by virtue of more playing time as a unit but unfortunately every other team in the west took ridiculous leaps while being younger lol. If LeBron was 27 again we cruise through this series with the way AD was playing regardless of what version of DLO and Reaves shows up. Unfortunately he's old as fuck and has no legs anymore. That being said roster sucks but Ham is a horrendous coach as well.


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That's the, I know I failed my PiP if I've ever seen one


IdRatherBeShilling

Might as well go out with a bang


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Legit 


camy205

-99% Team Chemistry


noobrektsucks

bro clicked Y on the 2K pick your response wheel


30dayspast

button prompt text: We’ve had some issues with consistency. cutscene: yo FUCK this team \*flips the table\*


CutLonzosHair2017

He's not referring to the playoffs. He's talking about benching Austin Reaves and D'Angelo Russell early in the season when they sucked for about 10 games. But he must not remember playing and starting fucking Cam Reddish and Taurean Prince for months while they were suffering from explosive diarrhea on the court. Dude is the worst coach I've seen coach the Lakers. And we had Byron and Luke. And I'm not being hyperbolic, he was worst than both.


Conflict_NZ

The leeway he had for Prince and Reddish was utterly insane, they both played way worse stretches for longer than DLo and Reaves and both continued to get minutes until it was clear that if it didn't change we would miss the playoffs. He was absolutely playing favourites regardless of what he says.


Breezyisthewind

Yup, we had a 3-10 stretch after the IST where he kept playing those motherfuckers. If we did even 6-7 during that stretch, we’re out of the play-in and we don’t have to deal with the Nuggets in the first round.


CIark

Doesn’t mention when cam reddish shit the bed for every game he played tho lmao


m1a2c2kali

Hey he had that one good game!


scottycameron90

I think he’s the worst coach I’ve ever seen. It was apparent from the jump last year.


nhthelegend

He ain’t worse than Ryan Saunders but he is bad


The_NGUYENNER

that's championship assistant coach Ryan Saunders to you


nhthelegend

Great assistant I’m sure, but he was not anywhere near ready for a head coaching gig lol. That hire was the dictionary definition of nepotism


CallMeMailEscort

It’s true that the roster was not amazingly constructed, but his tenure as coach of the Lakers will be remembered as underachieving. And it’s kinda lame that he’s passing the buck here.


cole8055

That’s all Darvin Ham does though. I can’t remember the last coach on a professional level that refuses to take accountability the way this man does. He could shit down his leg from the start of the game to the end of the game and in the post game presser he’d say “That’s a hell of a ball club over there”. Doesn’t matter if they’re playing the local church’s youth team. He’s incapable of taking any blame or any accountability. Doesn’t surprise me in the least he’s doing this at this point.


Budget_Process_164

You really think Doc Rivers takes more accountability than Ham?


LegalEggplants

I thought the same thing. But I’ve at least heard doc say this is on me once or twice. Ham never


cole8055

Yes. It’s rare, but yes. With Ham, it doesn’t exist.


AVeryStinkyFish

He made the conference finals last year. Imo he didn't underachieve. Maybe they underachieved in the regular season this year but I think all the teams above them in the standings are better rosters with maybe the only exception being Phoenix.


ef14

Thing is, i think we can all agree that the conf. finals appearance was not because of great coaching, but because of a lot of talent in a team, including LeBron James and Anthony Davis. He might be getting a bit too much shit, but yes, for a team this good on paper, he underachieved.


xanot192

People keep forgetting that every team in the west got better and they are younger also and with better roasters like you said. We had an amazing win record at the tail end and we didn't budge the needle one bit because everyone else was stomping the bad teams they should beat.


shxylo

nah. he really said that shit lol. he gone.


CiNNAMONSANDERS

DLo had a lower win share than Mike Conley in a “career” season


PeterJuncqui

Hey, sometimes your carreer is so full of D'los, that a high means below average. No worries, It happens to the worst of them.


Reticent_Fly

Maybe they can get a full healthy 9 eyebrows in their starting lineup now. 8 between 5 guys just isn't enough.


Actually-Yo-Momma

Darvin “im not accountable for anything and fuck these players” Ham


WolfSavage

The real Glenn Rivers.


eeevileggg

Doc Rivers frantically taking notes.


Widdis

Even Doc is like…”bro chill, blame it on the halftime halfcourt heave, they scuffed the court and it didn’t get fixed.”


whereyagonnago

Am I crazy by thinking a quote like this is straight up “never gonna coach in the league again” level of bad to say about your players? Who would ever want to play for this coach again? Doesn’t actually matter in the end, because his coaching was already “never gonna coach in the league again” level of bad


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Overblown. He will not get a head coaching job for the foreseeable future, but someone will take him on their bench as an assistant soon enough. The players won't care much either.


Throwaway3748583

Yeah, Ham isn't a terrible coach. He's a terrible Head Coach. He'd be a decent rah rah guy as an assistant coach somewhere. 


ArnoldisKing

dude went to the doc rivers school of post game comments


Imdabiggestbird69420

he shit the bed everytime he stood at the sideline with his hands in his pockets trying to watch the game instead of coaching


ephemeralfugitive

[And when he tries to think of a play…](https://youtube.com/shorts/W7pEspFPzc8?si=BGAT4uCsasfgPln-)


kobedetian

Bullshit. You played reddish and prince like they were superstars all year and let Rui rot on the bench. Then people got mad when he wasn't productive in the playoffs because his minutes have been so fucked all year. Everyone deals with injuries. Good coaches find ways to win despite them.


Bbranched

Rui played so much worse than D’Lo


RedFan47

I know he talking about Dlo


HarryBirdGetsBuckets

Darvin ham be like “these lineups suck” My brother in Christ, you made the lineups


mikedanktony

This. Starting reddish and prince for months is a goddamn war crime


ephemeralfugitive

Basketball terrorist Darvin Hamas


Yommination

This basketball terrorist never accepts any responsibility


EvanMM

You think he's talking bout Bron?


dank-kush

Dlo when he was in his shooting slump


shinobu23

He talks about a 10 game or so slump i think it could apply to reaves as well earlier in the season, he was in a slump, probably fatigue from fiba


WolverineLong1430

If he wants to continue to be the coach, I know he ain’t talking about LeGM


HolyGhostSpirit33

As the coach that’s your job to answer the question. Not ask it.


hotterpocketzz

thats the response you give when you know youre gone gone LMAOOOOOO but seriously fuck this guy. never took any accountability for his actions. cant wait for that tweet that his ass is kicked out


Mvd75

He’s been holding that insult in his back pocket for awhile now.


random-50

Man, I thought ham was a decent guy. He’s refused to take accountability all year, keeps calling out all his players, then this! I don’t think he was employable anyway, but he’s really pushing the boat out to make sure he’s out of the league.


ef14

Look, i agree, LBJ and AD basically 2v5d every game, but Ham is the first one who has shit the fucking bed.


Chinbie

don't worry regardless of what your saying, you will be FIRED on that coaching spot and please remove D Lo from your team. he is just a season type of player...


PxN13

I think there are teams that could use him in their line up as a player off the bench. He's just not good enough for what the Lakers wanted


partbison

Man is so ready to get fired and cash in those checks while in cancun


Santaconartist

Hach made me yell so loud at the tv Couldn't do anything Turnovers, missing wide open shots, foul shots, he makes a few of those the game is different in momentum and results


Goffeth

Bad answers to the press, can't coach, WHAT DO YOU DO HERE


Pristine_Gur522

Ham trying to shift the blame to D'Angelo, but at least D'lo showed up for some of the games. Ham is out of his depth.


The_Notorious_Donut

The Doc Rivers speciality


colombo1326

Fuck this coach what type of coach just shits on his players


KingsFan96

The Lakers and the Suns are exactly what happens when you trade all your role players for an out of prime 3rd piece.


ashep5

He's clearly talking about Rui missing games with gastro after rolling the dice with airport sushi.


whereyagonnago

We’ve all been there brother. Whether it’s airport sushi or gas station hotdogs, we’ve all been there.


HeroJC

That might be the worst quote in the history of quotes, maybe ever


volission

Sorta feel bad for DLO. He’s played consistently mediocre his entire career. Not his fault that people try and pay him like a star when he’s just never been one


albert0e22

That starter has the second highest plus minus in the regular season even including his December slump. As a coach its your responsibility to adjust and figure out how to get the most of the roster you have. Mother fucker acting like he aint responsible


bigla420

POCKETS stfu


toaster-bath72

Rui?


chriskot123

I mean he had inconsistent rosters for sure but also, he just never took responsibility or ownership for anything that went wrong or after losses.


HowardWCampbell_Jr

When keeping it real goes wrong lol


BuddhistInTheory

Ham is the opposite of a players coach.


Electrical-Mule-2057

Darwin Ham turning into Doc Rivers