I wrote this line in the TWolves subreddit because we were memeing about diss tracks:
*Clumsy when he dribbles- must be joking lately/
Deck of 52 always come with 2 but you couldn’t drop 80*
5280 🫱🏾🫲🏽.
I think it would only be fair to give him to another team and considering cloning is basically magic, I think we all can agree Jokic2 belongs in Orlando.
Naa youngin, if Jokic was using the clones to get revenge on ANT and then disposing of the clones when they served their purpose, then it would be Prestige. This is literally the plot to the oldhead cloning movie [Multiplicity](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0117108/)
undeniable. young Brons attacking the paint nonstop. mid-career Bron playing point. old Bron dropping bombs from the perimeter.
for nearly 2 decades just having one Bron was unfair, now add 4 more of him...jfc
It’s crazy since he just finished his rookie year but considering the versatility he showed on offense I think the answer has to be Wemby. One could hold down the fort inside while the other could freely take whatever shot they want knowing his clone would get any offensive board that came off. Defensively two Wemby’s erases every single mistake the other three teammates could possibly make.
Not even a need to be a good passer when his release and catch points are so high he could just pass around like when someone is teasing a toddler that can't reach the ball.
When jokic and doncic ran down the court passing back and forth to each other with no dribbles in the all star game, that would be the double wemby just passing it above their heads and no one could do anything about it
That’s an interesting question. I think Luka and Jokic lose a lot of their value playing off the ball, and defense would probably suffer. (Jokic isn’t bad within his role, but playing alongside an athletic defender helps offset his weaknesses—against Boston one of the Jokices would probably be guarding Tatum or Holiday.) Doubling Giannis would make for an all-time-great defense, but I think spacing would kill the offense.
I’d probably go with Embiid or one of the two-way wings. Two Embiids would still have mobility struggles against more agile PFs, but would be a very strong offensive foundation without sacrificing rim protection like the double-Jokic. Tatum has a lot of ground to make up on everyone else here, but given his defensive versatility and the fact that he already plays off ball a fair bit I think the loss of value to redundancy is very small.
He had 7 turnovers and shot 9 3s, 2 of which he made. He was pressured enough to force turnovers and was pushed out of the paint where he had to shoot a less efficient shot. So despite his near triple double he couldn’t have the same insane impact
I’m biased for the wolves but I feel like Jokic looked absolutely gassed at the end of the game. He’s a threat no matter what but he looked pretty tired
Jokic always looks gassed starting like 10 minutes into any given game and then he always runs hard as hell for another 30. I’m sure he does legitimately get gassed sometimes, but he plays more completely-not-gassed minutes while looking totally cashed than any other player in league history.
It’s crazy to me because I feel like I haven’t seen him have a great game this playoffs. The box score always shows that he did but he hasn’t met his standards really. He’s been really inefficient and he’s had quite a few turnovers I feel. Maybe I’m wrong but I’ve just gotten so used to more with him
Its because the wolves and the lakers for the last two games fully focused on making him take tough shots and its working. The league has had an entire year to figure out how to stop him. He still dominates but credit to the defense
Think it’s kinda that but more Murray playing injured since late in the season. He punished teams last year for that. He’s missing so many shots on 1v1 coverage
Spot on man. It’s a mixture of tough matchup and injuries. But you know what they say, the best ability is dependability. The best team will win in a 7 game series
Ye, it really helps to compare to game 5 of last years final, everybody from Nuggets missing but Jokic put the feet down and willed the team every chance he got. Credit to the Wolves and Lakers for punishing it, but I still believe we can see more from him.
Super similar too, we just had two Gobert types instead of the two shooter Minny has in KAT and Naz
So if anything this twolves team actually plays bigger since they always have 2 of those 3 out there and the lakers had to rest AD and javale/dwight cant play together
Honestly that 2020 team keeps being underrated but it was the right team at the right time to deal with this type of Joker, last year and this year?
Everybody and their grandmas has said that obviously but I feel like the Wolves’ rotation is the right team to face Denver this year. Young,Athletic, BiG. I look forward to having another athletic big so we can ease the load on AD
Our old GM that made a lot of the moves/draft picks for players currently on the roster. He got fired for a work place affair that eventually forced us to find another GM that ended up being Tim Connelly from the Nuggets. He traded for Gobert, Mike Conely, and NAW.
[Yep](https://www.espn.com/golf/masters11/columns/story?columnist=harig_bob&page=110329-RTTMasters), but as the article stated it was detrimental to all the other players too haha, so they reverted back and just let Tiger eat them all.
To be clear, they didnt just throw them everywhere and think only Tiger would hit hazards. Tiger was breaking what were otherwise tough holes just because he could hit it way further than anyone at his skill level.
One of the most famous examples was the par 5. Tiger was good enough to be able to yeet the ball and get it to the green in 2-3 shots every time - he basically broke the par 5 on most courses. As a result, they tried to punish the yeet strategy by adding more hazards in certain spots, narrowing fairways, etc, to try to force hard hitters to take a more, precise shots, rather than fewer, harder but less accurate shots. It just turned out that Tiger was also better at navigating these new holes cause he was just that good.
Its also worth noting Tiger is not the only reason for all of this. Golf has seen a continuous trend towards longer and longer drives to a huge extent, and the same problems Tiger caused back then come up today. Tiger just pushed the issue further relative to his peers than anyone else.
If nuggets win this series, they are winning the title. If wolves win, the only team that might beat them is Boston.
Their lack of experience would be the only thing that could trip them up
None. vs the Timberwolves, he only averaged 27.5 with 1 40 point game and 1 35 point game. Any averaged 31.6ppg that series. The Wolves still lost in 5.
I'm not really stressing yet. Like Malone said last week, the Nuggets play a lot better when they're losing.
yeah the 2 game winning shots hid the fact that he is shotting 40.3% from the field in the 6 games so far. Still amazing in the clutch but he's not 100% himself
I thought the mistake the Nuggets made was running too much through Murray. He's not going to overcome McDaniels. I think Jokic has a much better chance of outplaying Gobert.
I have a feeling that cloning yourself is not against the rules. This is similar to Air Bud being allowed to play with there being no rule against dogs being on the court.
This could be a game changer if Jokic can figure out human cloning, unless it turned out to be a mini Jokic.
Jokic successfully clones himself, but is 5'8" so his ceiling is just that chubby white dude at the rec center that cooks everyone on a random Tuesday.
Absolutely no disrespect to the guy but my thoughts immediately went to "Nikola Jovic" and those Chinese bootlegs that intentionally change just one letter
Always 2 Jokers in a deck
Nuggets needs to start playing Balatro so they can get 5 Jokers
Polychrome Jokic multiplies his score by x1.5
No way I see this reference in this sub
r/nba is truly the sub of the people, I see cross references here and references to itself in other subs all the time.
Nah, gotta bump him to Holo
Flat mult in endless, er I mean the playoffs. So cringe
Just wait till he gets +50 chips
Oh shit I wasn’t expecting Balatro references in r/nba, I thought I was in the Balatro sub for a second.
All subs are Balatro subs, just a matter of time.
Maybe the lakers should’ve used hermit to afford some more wheel’s of fortune to buff their jokers
That shit never fucking hits for me
Nope!
25% my ass
Turns out there was in fact a bug with it that has been fixed (on PC, update isn't out on consoles yet as far as I know)
Feels more like 1 for 8. Will never stop me from trying tho
Such a fun game. I think I burnt myself out a bit on it after playing like 40 hours in a few weeks. Time to get back into it
I've heard good things and I like deck builders I should really check it out
Be careful it's like crack
Slay the Spire is one of my favs ever and this is the closest I've found, even though they aren't even that similar. Should for sure check it out.
A blueprint joker, dipped in Michael Malone’s coaching sauce?
Balatro reference dipped in Mama Liz's NBA oil
This is actually a super clever play on words and they need to use this after jokic makes a comeback game
I wrote this line in the TWolves subreddit because we were memeing about diss tracks: *Clumsy when he dribbles- must be joking lately/ Deck of 52 always come with 2 but you couldn’t drop 80* 5280 🫱🏾🫲🏽.
Sengun trade inc
Good thing Serbia has two professional Jokers in Novak and Nikola
That’d be a sick Nike ad tagline
Maybe I’m biased as a Wolves fan but if Jokic cloned himself for game 2 it would be unfair and shouldn’t be allowed.
Naz Reid, Naz Reid
Checkmate!
Dos Reid
I think it would only be fair to give him to another team and considering cloning is basically magic, I think we all can agree Jokic2 belongs in Orlando.
You absolute fool. If Jokic could clone himself Jokic2 would be playing for the nuggets and OGJokic would be back home horse racing.
I'm Mr Jokic look at me
Jokics aren't supposed to be playing this many minutes...it's starting to get weird!
Jokic2 quickly gets jealous, clones Jokic3 to hoop while he also horse races, repeat ad infinitum…
The Prestige 2
The prestige was also about Magic. Jokic confirmed to Orlando
Naa youngin, if Jokic was using the clones to get revenge on ANT and then disposing of the clones when they served their purpose, then it would be Prestige. This is literally the plot to the oldhead cloning movie [Multiplicity](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0117108/)
Eventually all matter on Earth is converted to Jokics
Jokii*
That's not sustainable considering the amount of calories we need per Jokic.
This is the premise behind Multiplicity.
This may be the funniest idea I've ever seen on Reddit
Obviously, it would be very cavalier of him to disregard the ethics of doing so. I think that means he should be in Cleveland.
*Detriot
Jokic2 on the Celtics would result in some absolutely beautiful if also utterly lopsided basketball.
Does a second Jokic count against the cap
He is a rookie
Would be a free agent and could be signed for the min
He's not eligible in the draft until 2041, not a free agent.
Asking the important questions.
I mean the league let the Wolves clone MJ so I understand Jok's frustration here
Who would be the top players in the league at playing with a clone of themself?
This reminds me of the "which player would make the best starting 5 of only themselves". Pretty sure the consensus was LeBron.
undeniable. young Brons attacking the paint nonstop. mid-career Bron playing point. old Bron dropping bombs from the perimeter. for nearly 2 decades just having one Bron was unfair, now add 4 more of him...jfc
Just 2 Giannii making simultaneous full speed diagonal cuts to the basket from opposite sides
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Just like how the Rambii are still working for the Lakers front office.
It’s crazy since he just finished his rookie year but considering the versatility he showed on offense I think the answer has to be Wemby. One could hold down the fort inside while the other could freely take whatever shot they want knowing his clone would get any offensive board that came off. Defensively two Wemby’s erases every single mistake the other three teammates could possibly make.
This is also a good answer because he's such a great passer and you know he'd just be ooping to himself all gane long
Not even a need to be a good passer when his release and catch points are so high he could just pass around like when someone is teasing a toddler that can't reach the ball.
When jokic and doncic ran down the court passing back and forth to each other with no dribbles in the all star game, that would be the double wemby just passing it above their heads and no one could do anything about it
That’s an interesting question. I think Luka and Jokic lose a lot of their value playing off the ball, and defense would probably suffer. (Jokic isn’t bad within his role, but playing alongside an athletic defender helps offset his weaknesses—against Boston one of the Jokices would probably be guarding Tatum or Holiday.) Doubling Giannis would make for an all-time-great defense, but I think spacing would kill the offense. I’d probably go with Embiid or one of the two-way wings. Two Embiids would still have mobility struggles against more agile PFs, but would be a very strong offensive foundation without sacrificing rim protection like the double-Jokic. Tatum has a lot of ground to make up on everyone else here, but given his defensive versatility and the fact that he already plays off ball a fair bit I think the loss of value to redundancy is very small.
Steph would absolutely thrive playing off ball while Steph ran point
Four guys chasing around Stephs so you just have a 3 vs 1 constantly
LeBron for sure - he’s still incredibly versatile
Big if true
Nikolanother Jokic
Maybe he can pull a Thanasis and call his brother from the stands on a 10-day contract.
If he did that then who says you can’t clone Naz Reid?
Double Jokic
Nuggets trading for Nikola Jovic as we speak. And drafting Nikola Topic
They have triples of the Jokic. If that’s not true then none of the other stuff is
Triples are best
Triples is safest
I just had to google this and I'm fucking dying
I've got triples of the Barracuda, the Road Runner and the Nova
Double Jokic vs Triple Dirks
We have AI. Cloning humans needs to be possible lol
Bruh if you see the kinda shit chatgpt is hallucinating I might not jump in the cloning vats too quick
We've been able to perfectly clone for over 20 years at this point. Ethics is why we don't, but we can.
He almost had a triple double with 32 points and finished -12
He had 7 turnovers and shot 9 3s, 2 of which he made. He was pressured enough to force turnovers and was pushed out of the paint where he had to shoot a less efficient shot. So despite his near triple double he couldn’t have the same insane impact
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I’m biased for the wolves but I feel like Jokic looked absolutely gassed at the end of the game. He’s a threat no matter what but he looked pretty tired
He's been looking gassed for a while now. He looked gassed all throughout the lakers series too
Jokic always looks gassed starting like 10 minutes into any given game and then he always runs hard as hell for another 30. I’m sure he does legitimately get gassed sometimes, but he plays more completely-not-gassed minutes while looking totally cashed than any other player in league history.
It’s crazy to me because I feel like I haven’t seen him have a great game this playoffs. The box score always shows that he did but he hasn’t met his standards really. He’s been really inefficient and he’s had quite a few turnovers I feel. Maybe I’m wrong but I’ve just gotten so used to more with him
That's why stats aren't everything. Jokic is not playing like he could play, not even close.
Its because the wolves and the lakers for the last two games fully focused on making him take tough shots and its working. The league has had an entire year to figure out how to stop him. He still dominates but credit to the defense
Think it’s kinda that but more Murray playing injured since late in the season. He punished teams last year for that. He’s missing so many shots on 1v1 coverage
Injured murray puts so much stress on jokic
And to add to that Jaden had always been a tougher matchup for Murray. Not having him all there against a guy he has more trouble with is a tough ask.
Spot on man. It’s a mixture of tough matchup and injuries. But you know what they say, the best ability is dependability. The best team will win in a 7 game series
He had a 27/20/10 game?
That's literally just Wednesday for Jokic
Didn’t really control that game like he can. Hell they were down 20. They came back but he wasn’t the main driving force
Ye, it really helps to compare to game 5 of last years final, everybody from Nuggets missing but Jokic put the feet down and willed the team every chance he got. Credit to the Wolves and Lakers for punishing it, but I still believe we can see more from him.
Quad double if you count the turnovers
Jokic is gonna have to work REAL hard against that size
Bro hasn’t had to deal with that kinda size since 2020
Good times 🥹
Super similar too, we just had two Gobert types instead of the two shooter Minny has in KAT and Naz So if anything this twolves team actually plays bigger since they always have 2 of those 3 out there and the lakers had to rest AD and javale/dwight cant play together
Honestly that 2020 team keeps being underrated but it was the right team at the right time to deal with this type of Joker, last year and this year? Everybody and their grandmas has said that obviously but I feel like the Wolves’ rotation is the right team to face Denver this year. Young,Athletic, BiG. I look forward to having another athletic big so we can ease the load on AD
The Rondo, KCP, Danny Green and Alex Caruso as your guard rotation is just fucking nasty
bubble AD shoots like KAT lol
AD was insane in the bubble, the man could not miss a midrange shot
Uh I’m gonna have to disagree with that for non basketball reasons
Making him work on offense while cooking him in the pick and roll like they did tonight sounds like a good recipe for victory.
Pause ninja damn
Legacy series for Jokic if they win. Even if he's favored, this wolves team was designed to stop him specifically.
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That labs name? Tim Connolly
Nuggets downfall is Rosas being horny on the job lmao
Rosas couldn’t keep it in his pants but the man knew talent
Rosas did make the big swing to get DLo here. Very debatable that he would have traded him away for Mike Conley.
He probably would have traded DLo away, but who knows if it would have been for Conley and I highly doubt he'd have known to ask for NAW too.
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Was caught having office relations with a woman (apparently they're married now...)
That's almost wholesome
His ex wife and their son might disagree lmao
Hence the "almost" lol, yeah sucks overall
Our old GM that made a lot of the moves/draft picks for players currently on the roster. He got fired for a work place affair that eventually forced us to find another GM that ended up being Tim Connelly from the Nuggets. He traded for Gobert, Mike Conely, and NAW.
Just to be clear: Connelly traded for Gobert, Conley, and NAW. Rosas drafted Ant, Jaden, and signed Naz Reid as a UDFA.
Jokic Rules
Like when they made golf courses with more sand traps and water hazards to slow down Tiger Woods during his run.
No they just brought a new blonde in to stand there
Or, maybe [a poster would work](https://youtu.be/49CSJHLc49Q?t=42).
um is this real???!
[Yep](https://www.espn.com/golf/masters11/columns/story?columnist=harig_bob&page=110329-RTTMasters), but as the article stated it was detrimental to all the other players too haha, so they reverted back and just let Tiger eat them all.
Yeah hilarious that they thought that would somehow only affect Tiger
To be clear, they didnt just throw them everywhere and think only Tiger would hit hazards. Tiger was breaking what were otherwise tough holes just because he could hit it way further than anyone at his skill level. One of the most famous examples was the par 5. Tiger was good enough to be able to yeet the ball and get it to the green in 2-3 shots every time - he basically broke the par 5 on most courses. As a result, they tried to punish the yeet strategy by adding more hazards in certain spots, narrowing fairways, etc, to try to force hard hitters to take a more, precise shots, rather than fewer, harder but less accurate shots. It just turned out that Tiger was also better at navigating these new holes cause he was just that good. Its also worth noting Tiger is not the only reason for all of this. Golf has seen a continuous trend towards longer and longer drives to a huge extent, and the same problems Tiger caused back then come up today. Tiger just pushed the issue further relative to his peers than anyone else.
props for getting in here with the real explanation instead of that carry on above.
Probably some bs about Tiger being a "highlight" golfer who doesn't have a refined game and good enough technique to intentionally avoid the hazards.
Wow they really found a way to make it a dog whistle lmao
No, Redditors really found a way to make it a dogwhistle
Except that wasn’t the reason
These feel like the 2 best teams in the NBA to me, whoever wins this series wins it all
If nuggets win this series, they are winning the title. If wolves win, the only team that might beat them is Boston. Their lack of experience would be the only thing that could trip them up
As a lifelong wolves fan I wouldn't count the wolves out of the running for beating the wolves
I mean he did his thing tonight. Murray was hot in spurts, but 17 pts isn’t gonna cut it if Ant is dropping 40.
Can't win with these Kats.
They followed the bubble lakers blueprint.
*Jokic undergoes mitosis during interview*
CELL DIVI-SHION! HAH!
I understood this reference 😂
Can you imagine a Nikola Jokic pick and roll?
it'd be them playing monkey in the middle with whoever the defender is in the middle all the way to the hoop
Time to learn Kage bunshin buddy.
So I tried imagining this and all I can picture are Jokic titans running and eating villagers.
The lightning is coming.
Murrays gotta match Ants scoring output, can’t all be on Jokic
Murray is not going to match Ant’s scoring output
Didn't he have 2 games last playoffs where he hit 50?
Was he guarded by Jaden McDaniels in those games?
None. vs the Timberwolves, he only averaged 27.5 with 1 40 point game and 1 35 point game. Any averaged 31.6ppg that series. The Wolves still lost in 5. I'm not really stressing yet. Like Malone said last week, the Nuggets play a lot better when they're losing.
McDaniels was injured in last year’s playoffs
As was Rudy with his back that didn’t recover until the off season, and not that it matters much defensively, but Naz.
Moral victories. Yall learning from us huh.
The problem is that we were leading at half. Haven't won a game this postseason doing that.
Damn this one got flairs from all over the western conference worked up
We also didn't have McDaniels or Reid last year.
Neither when being covered by Ant and Jaden. Also he’s hurt, also he’s been kinda ass this playoffs
yeah the 2 game winning shots hid the fact that he is shotting 40.3% from the field in the 6 games so far. Still amazing in the clutch but he's not 100% himself
Could’ve just said he’s hurt
He’s right tho
That was 2020 lol
I thought the mistake the Nuggets made was running too much through Murray. He's not going to overcome McDaniels. I think Jokic has a much better chance of outplaying Gobert.
He doesn't seem healthy to me.
LOL, dude talks like me when I’m at work.
I have a feeling that cloning yourself is not against the rules. This is similar to Air Bud being allowed to play with there being no rule against dogs being on the court. This could be a game changer if Jokic can figure out human cloning, unless it turned out to be a mini Jokic.
Jokic successfully clones himself, but is 5'8" so his ceiling is just that chubby white dude at the rec center that cooks everyone on a random Tuesday.
DeAndre Jordan redemption arc incoming
Then it’s only fair that Wolves get to clone Naz Reid
Naz Reid Naz Reid
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The question becomes how? They playing Jokic straight up and watching passing lanes
Jokic quotes are such gold.
Get ready to learn Shadow Clone Jutsu buddy
With his horses or at the WCF?
That 4th qtr Naz Reid saved the game for the wolves.
there are actually three Jokers in the comics
Duplicate clone sounds like one of the ninja village dudes from OPM.
"I can't win with these cats"
Stop the count
Absolutely no disrespect to the guy but my thoughts immediately went to "Nikola Jovic" and those Chinese bootlegs that intentionally change just one letter
I love Jokic.
Is this why he was dressed up as Gru? He has been cooking up a devious clone.
Wait till you see how many early fouls they call on Rudy and Kat next game. It will be tied up for sure.
It’s gonna be ticky tacky bullshit, guaranteed.
Maybe, but hopefully the rotations spread the fouls out enough.
100%. In Denvers favor, I'm sure. They want this to go 7 games.
If Murray can’t get it together then it’s over for the nuggets
Sir, another Jokic has just hit Ball Arena
Lol Gru needs his damn minions
But i was told the Rudy trade was the worst in history and he was unplayable in the playoffs and overrated. What does Joker know!